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Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL?

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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
April 06 2006 15:35 GMT
#1
Everyone who voted for Chuck Norris in the last poll has had their ip logged and will be banned in 24 hours.
ModeratorGodfather
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
April 06 2006 15:37 GMT
#2
Sync, easily.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
April 06 2006 15:44 GMT
#3
Is this poll asking who will win the next osl?
If than boxer.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
April 06 2006 15:50 GMT
#4
Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL?

Who will not meet your expectations this season.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
April 06 2006 15:51 GMT
#5
For me, it will be rA. I have no expectations for Sync, but I would love to see rA in the semis. Getting out of his groups might be tough though.
ModeratorGodfather
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 06 2006 15:52 GMT
#6
For someone to disappoint, they first have to get our hopes up, and that excludes Sync, GoRush, Nal_rA and ChoJJa for me. BoxeR and oov will prolly not disappoint, it's BoxeR's comeback after all? And oov is freshly oiled, it cannot ever disappoint. So I guess that leaves July as someone who's even able to disappoint me -_-;

-Mynock
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
April 06 2006 15:59 GMT
#7
Gonna be a bit bold here and vote oov. As you say, to dissapoint they must fail to meet expectations, and oov is a hot candidate for a semi-final or better finish, but he may fail to advance out of his group.

The other candidate would be Ra, but since I don't want to jinx him, my vote is on oov.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
PuertoRican
Profile Joined April 2004
United States5709 Posts
April 06 2006 15:59 GMT
#8
Nal_Ra for sure.

He always seems to piss me off.
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a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
April 06 2006 16:04 GMT
#9
such a pessimistic poll
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
April 06 2006 16:05 GMT
#10
On April 07 2006 00:50 Manifesto7 wrote:
Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL?

Who will not meet your expectations this season.


Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL is very, very different from Who will not meet my expectations this season.

The first means which former champ will show a disappointing performance this OSL, which is the question of the poll.

The latter means which former champ will not meet the expectations you've preset for him.

These are two very different questions.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17827 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-06 16:11:36
April 06 2006 16:11 GMT
#11
On April 07 2006 00:35 Manifesto7 wrote:
Everyone who voted for Chuck Norris in the last poll has had their ip logged and will be banned in 24 hours.


And what if someone uses modem and has dynamic IP or voted while in the internet cafe?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
April 06 2006 16:12 GMT
#12
On April 07 2006 00:50 Manifesto7 wrote:
Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL?

Who will not meet your expectations this season.

SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT.
than oov because of the curse.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-06 16:15:23
April 06 2006 16:13 GMT
#13
dis·ap·point ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-point)
v. dis·ap·point·ed, dis·ap·point·ing, dis·ap·points
v. tr.
To fail to satisfy the hope, desire, or expectation of.
To frustrate or thwart: “I will not disappoint the confidence you have put in me” (Wayne A. Budd).

v. intr.
To cause disappointment.

Edit: Disappointment CANNOT exist without expectation. The expectations the former champ would fail to meet would be mine / fans / community etc..
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
April 06 2006 16:14 GMT
#14
On April 07 2006 00:51 Manifesto7 wrote:
For me, it will be rA. I have no expectations for Sync, but I would love to see rA in the semis. Getting out of his groups might be tough though.

Damn i just realized oh great manifesto7 is number one for liquibets. Show me thy ways.

Oh yeah how do you know what the groups are?
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
April 06 2006 16:18 GMT
#15
On April 07 2006 01:05 tfeign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2006 00:50 Manifesto7 wrote:
Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL?

Who will not meet your expectations this season.


Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL is very, very different from Who will not meet my expectations this season.

The first means which former champ will show a disappointing performance this OSL, which is the question of the poll.

The latter means which former champ will not meet the expectations you've preset for him.

These are two very different questions.


In order to dissapoint, one must have expectations that a person doesn't meet. It is the same question. Just friggin vote you understand what it means.
ModeratorGodfather
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-06 16:21:18
April 06 2006 16:20 GMT
#16
i don't know why so many are voting sync because its not like anyone expects stuff from him

people most likely to dissappoint are probably:
boxer, ra, and chojja
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XoR~
Profile Joined April 2006
Switzerland453 Posts
April 06 2006 16:22 GMT
#17
Sync for sure
Me Gosu ^-^ teamliquid.net
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
April 06 2006 16:26 GMT
#18
Why did you inlcude Sync in the poll? ^^

You're confusing some people here. Sync would however be eligable for a "dark horse" poll.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
April 06 2006 16:29 GMT
#19
On April 07 2006 01:26 Luhh wrote:
Why did you inlcude Sync in the poll? ^^

You're confusing some people here. Sync would however be eligable for a "dark horse" poll.


Sync is a former champ. Perhaps some people see the fact that he is an active member on the second biggest pro gaming team means he is still a force to be reckoned with.
ModeratorGodfather
Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
April 06 2006 16:36 GMT
#20
Yeah, true.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
dream-_-
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1857 Posts
April 06 2006 16:48 GMT
#21
Either rA or Sync. rA has been off for months, and sync is well, sync.
tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-04-06 17:08:12
April 06 2006 17:05 GMT
#22
On April 07 2006 01:18 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2006 01:05 tfeign wrote:
On April 07 2006 00:50 Manifesto7 wrote:
Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL?

Who will not meet your expectations this season.


Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL is very, very different from Who will not meet my expectations this season.

The first means which former champ will show a disappointing performance this OSL, which is the question of the poll.

The latter means which former champ will not meet the expectations you've preset for him.

These are two very different questions.


In order to dissapoint, one must have expectations that a person doesn't meet. It is the same question. Just friggin vote you understand what it means.


I doubt people are going to translate the poll to the way you're intending for it to be translated. Yes, I know what it means, from reading your posts, but I doubt that most will define disappoint the way you're doing so. I don't think the poll results will going to show what you exactly wanted to see.

On April 07 2006 01:13 Luhh wrote:
dis·ap·point ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-point)
v. dis·ap·point·ed, dis·ap·point·ing, dis·ap·points
v. tr.
To fail to satisfy the hope, desire, or expectation of.
To frustrate or thwart: “I will not disappoint the confidence you have put in me” (Wayne A. Budd).

v. intr.
To cause disappointment.

Edit: Disappointment CANNOT exist without expectation. The expectations the former champ would fail to meet would be mine / fans / community etc..


To fail to satisfy the hope, desire, or expectation of.

It is wrong to say that disappointment cannot exist without expectation. Disappointment can mean either: 1. To fail to satisfy the hope; 2. To fail to satisfy the desire, or 3. To fail to satisfy the expectation of. With the way the question is current worded, I'm strongly led to believe that many people will translate "disappoint" as either definition #1 or definition #2, as opposed to definition #3, which is what Manifesto really wanted to ask.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
April 06 2006 17:40 GMT
#23
sync cuz, he really isnt a top tier lvl terran, his TvT and TvZ is pretty good, but his TvP just doesnt shine enough
PlayJunior
Profile Joined August 2004
Armenia833 Posts
April 06 2006 18:03 GMT
#24
On April 07 2006 02:05 tfeign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2006 01:18 Manifesto7 wrote:
On April 07 2006 01:05 tfeign wrote:
On April 07 2006 00:50 Manifesto7 wrote:
Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL?

Who will not meet your expectations this season.


Which former champ will dissapoint this OSL is very, very different from Who will not meet my expectations this season.

The first means which former champ will show a disappointing performance this OSL, which is the question of the poll.

The latter means which former champ will not meet the expectations you've preset for him.

These are two very different questions.


In order to dissapoint, one must have expectations that a person doesn't meet. It is the same question. Just friggin vote you understand what it means.


I doubt people are going to translate the poll to the way you're intending for it to be translated. Yes, I know what it means, from reading your posts, but I doubt that most will define disappoint the way you're doing so. I don't think the poll results will going to show what you exactly wanted to see.

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2006 01:13 Luhh wrote:
dis·ap·point ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ds-point)
v. dis·ap·point·ed, dis·ap·point·ing, dis·ap·points
v. tr.
To fail to satisfy the hope, desire, or expectation of.
To frustrate or thwart: “I will not disappoint the confidence you have put in me” (Wayne A. Budd).

v. intr.
To cause disappointment.

Edit: Disappointment CANNOT exist without expectation. The expectations the former champ would fail to meet would be mine / fans / community etc..


To fail to satisfy the hope, desire, or expectation of.

It is wrong to say that disappointment cannot exist without expectation. Disappointment can mean either: 1. To fail to satisfy the hope; 2. To fail to satisfy the desire, or 3. To fail to satisfy the expectation of. With the way the question is current worded, I'm strongly led to believe that many people will translate "disappoint" as either definition #1 or definition #2, as opposed to definition #3, which is what Manifesto really wanted to ask.

And Sync leading the poll with 31% proves that tfeign is right. We do not have high expectations for Sync, do we Mani?
Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 06 2006 18:35 GMT
#25
tfeign is right, yes. But not on the account that his definition is correct. Him being right in his prediction only shows how people have no idea about what the actual question is.

-Mynock
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
April 06 2006 18:39 GMT
#26
Sync i'm amazed made it. So he cannot disappoint imo.
ra has not been a champ form for a long time, the only way he can disappoint me is by getting raped in all his games.
I have some expectations for ChoJJa though... but he might let me down so i voted for him.
KorvspaD
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Sweden468 Posts
April 06 2006 19:41 GMT
#27
if anything sync can suprise and go far in the tournament
for all we could have done and all that could have been...
iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
April 06 2006 20:14 GMT
#28
Nal_rA has already won this OSL ez
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
April 06 2006 20:41 GMT
#29
The only person I care about is rA, but he's gonna win OSL so I won't be disappointed.
I don't think Oov is gonna get far. Not that I'd be disappointed, so I can't vote him.
Trucy Wright is hot
PlayJunior
Profile Joined August 2004
Armenia833 Posts
April 06 2006 21:01 GMT
#30
the only poll Sync could lead with such a margin could be about disappointment
sundance
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Slovakia3201 Posts
April 06 2006 22:19 GMT
#31
Nal_ra, easily.
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
April 06 2006 22:49 GMT
#32
ra
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 06 2006 23:11 GMT
#33
Hmm, I voted Sync, but considering I expect him to suck I voted wrong.

Correct answer probably would be July. I see him going down in groups...

That's right, I said it.
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YoMeR
Profile Joined January 2003
United States263 Posts
April 07 2006 02:24 GMT
#34
fucking sparks terran. it will never be revived ;(
Losers are acceptable, Failures are not. And your sir, are a Failure.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
April 07 2006 02:49 GMT
#35
both boxer and nal_ra will suck.. tt

sync also but that's because he's not good enough so that's not gonna dissapoint
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
April 07 2006 03:33 GMT
#36
July I hope, I dont want a chubby Golden Mouse holder.
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Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
April 07 2006 03:40 GMT
#37
On April 07 2006 00:35 Manifesto7 wrote:
Everyone who voted for Chuck Norris in the last poll has had their ip logged and will be banned in 24 hours.


PROVE IT.
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4668 Posts
April 07 2006 04:16 GMT
#38
Oov... because of the curse. And I have no expectations for Sync, so I would be surprised to see him advance out of his group (unless he gets a pansy group).
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
April 07 2006 04:35 GMT
#39
oov
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gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2795 Posts
April 07 2006 06:59 GMT
#40
Boxer will surely dissapoint me. I mean if he isnt in the final with July!
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
April 07 2006 07:01 GMT
#41
I want iloveoov to get his ass kicked really bad.
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Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
April 07 2006 08:56 GMT
#42
Where's the SNES option ????
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
BlackDevil
Profile Joined April 2006
France53 Posts
May 11 2006 05:21 GMT
#43
On April 07 2006 16:01 SixSongs wrote:
I want iloveoov to get his ass kicked really bad.


Done...
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DarkYoDA
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States1347 Posts
May 13 2006 22:58 GMT
#44
For those who polled boxer and ra.. gg... boxer 6:0 and nal_ra 5:0 at the moment. Looks better than most on the form book. =p
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