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How Many SC1 OSLs Left?
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ccdnl
United States611 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
SC2 is gonna take Korea by storm  | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
I had a lot of doubts about SC2 but I became a believer :D | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
which means that either jaedong gets diamond mouse and/or platinum, or flash gets platinum and/or gold (more likely the latter) Or <fanboyism> Bisu will sweep the next OSLs and win a golden mouse <33333 </fanboyism> | ||
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AnyOne
Chile547 Posts
dont like watching sc2 | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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NeoOmega
United States495 Posts
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Weasel-
Canada1556 Posts
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seRapH
United States9719 Posts
BW for life! i'll fucking host an OSL for BW if i have to >=( | ||
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AssiRoyal
Germany216 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
Spectator-wise, it just doesn't have that ZING that immediately attracts a spectator. | ||
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Nal_rAwr
United States2611 Posts
On June 13 2010 08:11 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: 10+! BW for life! i'll fucking host an OSL for BW if i have to > | ||
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Captain Peabody
United States3096 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
Voted 5+, hoping for 10+ and that SC1 and SC2 will coexist in Korea. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
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TealLurker
United States791 Posts
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Xinliben
United States931 Posts
I hope flash gets a golden mouse. | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1971 Posts
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government delta
Germany96 Posts
but yeah, im not too worried, cause the osl will continue within sc2 and proleague will always be very exiting. but i still voted for +10, simply because the koreans put that much work into broodwar and spent all that time mastering the game, i really doubt that they will just stop with broodwar tournaments, cause even if they did, wouldnt the fans complain hard so that it comes back? | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On June 13 2010 07 :49 OneOther wrote: 2-4 I had a lot of doubts about SC2 but I became a believer :D Yeah, it's exactly the other way around for me. I was pretty confident that SC2 would make an awesome game, but now I really doubt it's going to happen. | ||
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FusionCutter
Canada974 Posts
On June 13 2010 09:13 EquilasH wrote: Yeah, it's exactly the other way around for me. I was pretty confident that SC2 would make an awesome game, but now I really doubt it's going to happen. +1. I wouldn't be playing if it wasn't labelled SC2. | ||
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
I can see it being 2-4 tho if Blizzard is quick to make things good and B.net 2.0 is a big sucess. | ||
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jgju
United States454 Posts
On June 13 2010 09:18 ProoM wrote: the "5+" option kind of makes no sense, when there's 10+ too. Lets say I think there's 20 OSLs left, both 5+ and 10+ are viable options >.> (assuming that "+" ir a replacement for "<"). I get the feeling you know what they mean. | ||
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pyr0ma5ta
United States458 Posts
SC2 killing the OSL is frowntown imo. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Piste
6167 Posts
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
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SC2Phoenix
Canada2814 Posts
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
It's just annoying, because brood war became a great game on its own and then developed a pro scene on its own, but people are just trying to make SC2 into what brood war was, rather than waiting and seeing if SC2 is really ever going to make a good e-sport. | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
That sounds most resonable to me. | ||
]343[
United States10328 Posts
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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[AcE]Kenny
Cuba12 Posts
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
I get the feeling that, after the next OSL, they'll start hosting simultaneous BW/SC2 tournaments for a while (ideally, I'd like at least another 6 BW OSL tournaments) then eventually permanently switch over to SC2. Whilst I'll be sad to see BW go, hopefully they'll keep it going whilst SC2 starts up until the point that SC2 becomes as competitive as BW is and then a permanent switch. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 13 2010 09:38 OminouS wrote: Isn't possible that OSL is going to have BOTH a SC2 and a BW tour? That sounds most resonable to me. ..Are sponsors going to sponsor a new game or an older game..doesn't seem reasonable to me.. I'd say 2 more OSL's, voted for 1 because I hope this OSL is the last, not because I don't like BW but because it's time for Starcraft 2. Grrr... Won one of the first OSLs back when you could win with basically any build..Foreigner's creativity > Korean find out what works and practice the hell out of it. | ||
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Frah
Canada96 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
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Groslouser
France337 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
I hope. | ||
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Rio
Vietnam598 Posts
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Cowazon
Canada58 Posts
SC2 will be exciting at first because it's a new game with shiny graphics and shiny new units. Once that novelty wears off, I'm fairly certain people will be dying to watch SC again. Of course, nobody knows for sure what's gonna happen in Korea with regards to live SC2, but unless Blizzard makes some massive changes to the game for the sole purpose of making it more exciting to watch, I doubt it will replace SC in the OSL entirely. While Blizzard might consider these changes later on, it will be, without a doubt, with an expansion that they can use to profit from them, which probably won't be for at least another 2 years (6 OSLs). | ||
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XFire
United States131 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On June 13 2010 08:47 TealLurker wrote: I voted 2-4. I would expect a period in which SC1 and SC2 run concurrently. It would be smart to phase out SC1 than just dropping it completely. This. | ||
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Shuray
Brazil642 Posts
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
On June 13 2010 08:47 TealLurker wrote: I voted 2-4. I would expect a period in which SC1 and SC2 run concurrently. It would be smart to phase out SC1 than just dropping it completely. This. Also, if the OSL lives past SCII then I shall see if I can save enough money to start a college for gaming careers in the U.S. | ||
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FlamingTurd
United States1059 Posts
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Elevenst
Canada249 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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myfriendPlank
United States550 Posts
On June 13 2010 08:11 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: 10+! BW for life! i'll fucking host an OSL for BW if i have to >=( | ||
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newvsoldschool
428 Posts
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Sentient66
United States651 Posts
Seriously though, I think there will be 2-4. | ||
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Initial_H.C.
Canada560 Posts
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PhOeniX[MinD]
361 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
You sure are some happy prophets. If I ever need some extra pessimism when I'm feeling good, I'll know who to call. | ||
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shurgen
350 Posts
Now SC2 may be a better game than those others, but don't for a second think that the long-term success of an e-sport has anything to do with graphics. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On June 13 2010 08:47 TealLurker wrote: I voted 2-4. I would expect a period in which SC1 and SC2 run concurrently. It would be smart to phase out SC1 than just dropping it completely. I agree but felt like 5-6 was the right number (or most likely - personally the 'right' number for me is that it continues indefinitely). So I voted the unpopular 5+. | ||
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
On June 13 2010 08:12 AssiRoyal wrote: 10+ cause sc2 just sux he speaks the truth | ||
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
That's just a speculation I have that is purely based on the limited knowledge I have. | ||
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Incognitodies
United Kingdom184 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
On June 13 2010 14:06 J1.au wrote: When Brood War dies, the golden age of e-Sports will end. As will my reason to come to TL unfortunately. I voted 2-4 as that's reasonable. SC2 isn't nearly as exciting to watch in its current state, so I don't think BW is going anywhere soon. | ||
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frantic.cactus
New Zealand164 Posts
Can't we all just get along????? | ||
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Kong John
Denmark1020 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Yep, same here. But I don't believe BW will die. So there will be 10+ more OSLs. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
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arew
Lithuania1861 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
I believe! | ||
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MisterKatosS
France352 Posts
Here is the ultimate test, if it survive sc2 bw will stay forever | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
I think the question should be rephrased as "How long will Blizzard allow BW tourmanets to exist?". I would say for a year or two at max while people are in transition between the games. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
For the record, it's not like Blizzard can turn off the lans of people who still want to have BroodWar Tournaments, I promise they don't have a huge switch that they can turn off to shut down everything. BW tournaments themselves will exist as long as people want to play in them. | ||
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Therick
Norway324 Posts
I dont see why it wont take over BW, even tho its a good game. | ||
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Robinsa
Japan1333 Posts
On June 13 2010 18:52 Parnage wrote: It's a little disturbing to think the OSL is ending and it's really not the tournament isn't going to end. It'll move on to Sc2. I don't think that's a bad thing. Gotta progress and it's only reasonable that they move on. Now we will be seeing the last BW OSL's soon most likely two, three before they make the switch. For the record, it's not like Blizzard can turn off the lans of people who still want to have BroodWar Tournaments, I promise they don't have a huge switch that they can turn off to shut down everything. BW tournaments themselves will exist as long as people want to play in them. I take it youre not a frequent reader of the forum if you cinserly belive that Blizzard cant shut down tournamnts. If they start to charge money for broadcasting BW (something theyve started to do, just that havnt got any money yet ^^), some organisations could get a hard time broadcasting -> no broadcast -> no sponsors -> no moneys -> no leagues/teams. I think, as I said in the previous post, that this is just a move to strangle the BW community to force it over to SC2. If Blizzard keeps on going the way theyve done until now I wouldnt say moving to SC2 would be progress as you would want it to be!  Sorry for straying a bit off-topic. | ||
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POWEROUTAGE
Singapore884 Posts
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snpnx
Germany454 Posts
I voted 2-4 because of all the uncertainties going on with Kespa/Blizzard/Gretech right now, might as well be only 1 more, or if things get solved, 10+ | ||
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SteffoDeffo
Germany48 Posts
i think 2-4 sounds reasonable | ||
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
On June 13 2010 19:32 snpnx wrote: Is there no way to view a poll without voting yourself? I voted 2-4 because of all the uncertainties going on with Kespa/Blizzard/Gretech right now, might as well be only 1 more, or if things get solved, 10+ Click see comments | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1010 Posts
Still I voted 2-4 left, SC2 will have nothing to do with it though, but I really think the betting scandal is going to kill off BW as well as the current Kespa BS. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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QuixoticO
Netherlands810 Posts
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shalafi
394 Posts
So I hope for 10+. I don't really know what's the most probable answer though. I don't think SC2 would replace BW naturally, but with Blizzard killing BW it could happen... Some people seem to forget what happens with CSS and CS. The gameplay changes are way smaller than in BW-SC2, the graphics difference is much bigger (since the SC2 graphics are equal if not worse for the spectator), and CSS is even more compatible. And even so, CS is still the predominant game. If SC2 replaces BW it's not because it's better, it's because Blizzard is going to kill BW. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8090 Posts
I believe | ||
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Deleted User 39582
317 Posts
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
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Tourist
Germany55 Posts
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uberdeluxe
Canada306 Posts
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KasPra
Estonia983 Posts
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[Azn]Nada
United States275 Posts
Seriously though, SC1 is just so much more fun to watch than SC2. I just watched Moletrap cast some SC1 games, and he's the last SC1 commentator out there. But he's even screaming as he sees July's lings run around ForGG's firebats, and you rarely see that in SC2, which is mostly just 1 huge battle and its over. God I hope threre's a lot more OSLs because im gonna miss SC1 to death T.TTTTTTT | ||
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
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Crueger
Sweden73 Posts
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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SilentCrono
United States1420 Posts
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
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wiesel
Germany727 Posts
Love SC:BW to death but i can't say i'm not excited about the possibility of SC2 OSLs and korean pros getting into SC2 I think something inside of me would cry if jaedong would have to micro the newbish sc2 mutas lol. Interesting 70% for 2+ so far. | ||
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Sok4R
Germany124 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
I really don't see any huge downside to letting the pros decide if they want to compete in a Brood War or SC2 Starleague so I wouldn't be very surprised if they allow both games to have OSLs simultaneously. | ||
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NEgroidZerg
United States244 Posts
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
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zrules
United States88 Posts
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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Tiazi
Netherlands761 Posts
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DemiSe
883 Posts
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
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jgad
Canada899 Posts
This is why companies continue to do things the "old way" for a good while when better alternatives exist. If you already have machines to do function X, it's best to keep using them, now that you've paid for them and they exist, until they wear out. Then, when it's time for replacements, you finally go for the new stuff. At present there are a lot of stellar SC players and coaches, each of whom has a lot of mileage left in them. When the kids start showing up at the SC2 team practice houses instead of the SC team practice houses, then the teams will start to atrophy and the tourneys will begin to wind down. Until that time, though, the SC world has an enormous fan base who love their favourite players. They're not going to simply abandon their heroes because technology changes and a shiny new game shows up. Those people who skip school to bring signs to support their beloved players won't simply stop caring about them and go watch some n00b nobodies play SC2. It will take time for SC2 players to develop fans and it will take time for SC to lose its fans. I say 5+ OSLs easy. | ||
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Lightningbullet
United States507 Posts
On June 13 2010 08:16 moopie wrote: At least 5. As long as there is demand (and Blizzard stops trying to kill it), BW will live on. SC2 OSL would be boring as hell to watch. errrrr... you do realize that Blizzard is part of the problem, right? Especcially since negotiations with Kespa ended. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
SC2 sucks. | ||
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D3lta
United States93 Posts
Anyone who actually thinks the competitive BW scene is going anywhere for at least a few more years is completely naive. It's going to take years for sc2 to get to the competitive level required to completely replace BW as spectator entertainment. Even if (and I do think think its a big IF) sc2 becomes more popular in Korea a year or so from now, BW will have to becomes decidedly unpopular for them to actually stop hosting tourneys, (especially considering how much spectator overlap could be cultivated.) A lot of this anti-sc2, Brood War forever sentiment displayed on this forum is evidence of why BW won't simply fade away. And call me crazy, but I have a feeling this attitude is even more common amongst Koreans than that of EU/NA gamers. There not looking for a replacement, if anything, there's a healthy population that is threatened by the concept. Equally naive is this assumption that most known top gamers, would consider "switching" out. As many more pragmatic posters have touched on already, a large part of the skill in BW is related to dealing with an interface that is simply outdated. It doesn't make the game less compelling to watch or in anyway take away from the talent these guys show, but its a reality I think people would do best to accept. Why would someone who knows their amongst the best in the world at BW (i.e. flash, jaedong ect) want to switch games to something they may very well not be not as proficient at? It wouldn't surprise me if BW matches were still showing 6 years from now. Or if the real last OSL was a decade from after sc2 release. I think its a little presumptuous to assume sc2 WILL replace sc1 altogether, and completely unfounded to assume sc2 will be so much more popular, it will destroy the majority of interest in sc1. | ||
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wiesel
Germany727 Posts
sc2 is even more unclear than wc3, so i doubt it will replace anything | ||
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AlwaysGG
Taiwan952 Posts
10+ sounds unreal. lol | ||
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Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49782 Posts
it ain't over yet! | ||
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Piste
6167 Posts
On June 13 2010 09:31 Rinrun wrote: 2-4. SC2 will slowly capture the hearts of Koreans everywhere and eventually it will replace the game of the gods, thus returning the game to the gods. nah sc2 will never be such a success becouse of the fact it isn't as much pleasure to spectators than bw was. On June 14 2010 16:12 BLinD-RawR wrote: ongamenet star2league?OSL and OS2L......they are 2 different things run by the same people. it ain't over yet! edit: oh i read about it now. yay hopefully it doesn't ruin osl. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6163 Posts
I want to see SC2 OSL soon ! | ||
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TTSA_SBR
Australia64 Posts
 NonY vs someone) and that is entirely because he went an unorthodox strategy, the rest have been a big fat wad of penis, fuck you sc2 BW for life 10000000+++++++ more OSL's and  Flash will win them all......... | ||
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Coraz
United States252 Posts
it better not kill sc or ima just quit forever | ||
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
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