EPTHow long should we wait before assuming we aren't spoiling…
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dhe95
United States1213 Posts
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Carnac
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preacha
Norway210 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
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Kompicek
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
(I just loaded up TL after a long weekend spent away from the computer, anxious to catch the VODs, and saw 2 results right off the bat  )On February 09 2010 05:10 Sadistx wrote: 1 hour. Honestly people who whine about spoilers are the next most annoying thing after flaming fanboys. If you go into a thread that has "TSL" in its title, expect to get spoiled. We're not talking about that -_- | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
My most sincere apologies to anyone I spoiled. It was a lapse in judgment and I'm very sorry. | ||
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torm3ntin
Brazil2534 Posts
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mOnion
United States5651 Posts
people who care enough to get mad after ONE day are ppl who are constantly checkin up on it anyway. other's are just mild on lookers who might be upset but it won't ruin their day @_@ | ||
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michaelthe
United States359 Posts
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
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AlTheCake
Canada1071 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Though if you don't want the games spoiled but go into threads with TSL in the title its pretty self-explanatory that you could run into spoilers. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10624 Posts
Saturday evening many of us are probably away an can't watch the whole stream, i mostly watch the saturday games on sunday afternoon and right after that the live cast. So 2 days seems perfect, 1 day is ok | ||
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LorDo
Sweden485 Posts
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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Husky
United States3362 Posts
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ELESSAR
Bulgaria173 Posts
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On February 09 2010 05:45 ELESSAR wrote: If you don't want to get spoiled DON"T FUCKING CLICK ON THE SPOILER threads. For the rest of the forum until the vods are out Calm down. The reason this thread was made is because I made a poll (which is unavoidably part of the forum structure) a bit too early for many people's tastes, which is entirely understandable. This has nothing to do with the spoiler threads. The complaints that lead to this poll are entirely valid. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
On February 09 2010 05:45 ELESSAR wrote: If you don't want to get spoiled DON"T FUCKING CLICK ON THE SPOILER threads. For the rest of the forum until the vods are out I think this poll is really referencing the fact that the last poll generated some complaints for spoiling the results on the front page. Clearly we have spoilers and spoiler warnings on threads to prevent people from stumbling onto them, but the front page is another story. I voted one day, but I really think it should be 24 hours after VODs are released. Just to make certain that if someone missed the broadcast they have ample opportunity to see the games before results are all over the place. EDIT: The spoilers didn't affect me, but I would be disappointed if they had. Thanks for being so frank and accountable with this. | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
On February 09 2010 05:19 p4NDemik wrote: My most sincere apologies to anyone I spoiled. It was a lapse in judgment and I'm very sorry. that's ok, thanks for apologizing. | ||
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faction123
Australia949 Posts
edit: didn't read page2 sorry | ||
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NiGoL
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
The answer is like five minutes apparently. | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
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Shiladie
Canada1631 Posts
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PangO
Chile1870 Posts
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ProoM
Lithuania1741 Posts
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
On February 09 2010 05:45 ELESSAR wrote: If you don't want to get spoiled DON"T FUCKING CLICK ON THE SPOILER threads. For the rest of the forum until the vods are out This poll is asking how long until the spoiler tag isn't needed anymore. | ||
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mucker
United States1120 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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Alethios
New Zealand2765 Posts
News posts are fine because if one hasn't seen the games, you don't click on the post. They can go up straight away. A poll on the side of the screen or anything that you can't help but see should happen at least 3 days afterwards, sometimes longer depending on the circumstances (e.g. Xmas holidays or whatever). Can't understand people saying 1 day, that seems so rediculous. | ||
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SoL[9]
Portugal1370 Posts
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On February 09 2010 06:50 ProoM wrote: In 1 day, everyone who's intrested in TL, every human being in the world, independently from time zone, can watch it :}. 1 day. Agreed. On February 09 2010 06:36 Subversive wrote: 2 days is best. I check in here most days, but occasionally real life gets in the way of my starcraft viewing news flash: the internet is a real thing. | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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seRapH
United States9715 Posts
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Klapdout
United States282 Posts
As for my opinion on spoilers, I think 4 days minimum, which would be midweek after the casts. I have a lot of things to do on the weekend, and TSL casts take up a lot of time, its just not viable for me to watch live. I don't want to catch a game here or there, I want to really enjoy the event and wait until I have time to watch a full set at a time. It takes me a few days to finish watching the games. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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3clipse
Canada2555 Posts
On February 09 2010 08:55 Eatme wrote: If you have not watched live you dont care enough and deserve to have the outcome spoiled.. This is perhaps the most utterly retarded thing I have heard all week. Congratulations. Some of us actually have obligations in the form of school or work which make watching live impossible. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19000 Posts
Also, I missed the NATE MSL finals because I didn't feel like waking up at 4am or whatever, and before I could watch them, it was spoiled for me in a thread that had nothing to do with MSL at all (or even anything to do with Flash or Jaedong). That was annoying. So yeah, the argument "nyahhhhh just don't look at threads with 'TSL' in the topic" is crap. | ||
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Piste
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Mr.Ch4rms
Canada84 Posts
3 days would be nice, cause i usually dont have time on sat or sun to watch, usually have monday to spend watching replays and vods. or just keep spoilers off the front page, then if i click on a page about something i dont want to be spoiled about, then its my own damn fault. | ||
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GaliKo
Canada207 Posts
Voted 24 hours | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9102 Posts
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
I feel like we have this argument all too often. It always degenerates into "DON'T CLICK LINKS ON TL IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED" vs whatever the other, irrelevant side might be. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
edit: On February 09 2010 10:48 miseiler wrote: Where's the option for "immediately" ? I feel like we have this argument all too often. It always degenerates into "DON'T CLICK LINKS ON TL IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED" vs whatever the other, irrelevant side might be. You are missing the entire point of the question. They are wondering how long until results dont need to be hidden behind spoiler tags or spoiler threads and can be placed in the open such as the front page or in any random thread. | ||
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
honestly, 1 day? do you honestly get on your computer every fucking day?. holy fucking nerds. i love starcraft and i love the TSL. I don't expect spoiler dates to accommodate people who are inactive or aren't terribly interested, but 1 day seems extreme to me. Seriously, you go away with you girlfriend for a weekend of hot sex and you get back and deserve to have the tournament spoiled cause you didn't camp out your computer? You work 2 days of overtime in a row and don't have time to go home, so you spend the night and deserve to have the TSL spoiled? /endless examples. 2 days is ok. though i think 3 - 5 would be better (i realize this is going to the other extreme and accomodating the like 1% of people at tl.net who don't check it every day. So, 2 then?). edit - fuck it. it should be like 5 days. hmph. | ||
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
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errol1001
454 Posts
There is no way that there would be this many votes for 1 day or 12 hours if it specified just a little bit more. 12 hours or 1 day for Opt-in spoilers is fine. A day or 12 hours is absurd for splashing across the front page. There's a ton of votes based on the assumption that this poll is referring to creating a thread that labels itself as being a spoiler and people have to click on it to be spoiled. Please don't use this as an excuse to spoil people who simply visit the website.. | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
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malathion
United States361 Posts
On February 09 2010 05:09 preacha wrote: yeah. we really cant find a right answer here. there are allways ppl on both side, those who want 12 hours, and those who want 6 days or more. instead, the best way would be a spoiler-tag or something. so that those who want to know the score right after the match, can do that, and those who dont want to, dont have to. | ||
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Pure.Freedom
United States114 Posts
I just hope that there arent any spoilers posted in plain sight less than ~2 days after results because i find surprise and anticipation is the key to enjoyment while watching these games. So far i think TL has done an amazing job of avoiding spoling anything and i commend them for that. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
it was actually my fault entirely, u see i had to vote first cause i was like "omg gosi vs jf was awesome i must vote" without realizing that it would show the results of each series, so there u have my opinion, stupid ppl will always find a way to get spoiled and its almost impossible to not spoil xD | ||
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stevethemacguy
United States137 Posts
. I'm not dumb enough to click on something that says "Ro8" when I haven't finished watching the Ro16, so as long as things are properly labeled and have spoiler tags, it's fine.So far the coverage has been great for me! I just goto the news post, download the torrents, and watch them later without opening any spoilers. | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
On February 09 2010 16:02 MorroW wrote: it was actually my fault entirely, u see i had to vote first cause i was like "omg gosi vs jf was awesome i must vote" without realizing that it would show the results of each series, so there u have my opinion, stupid ppl will always find a way to get spoiled and its almost impossible to not spoil xD it showed the results anyway without having to vote. it wasn't yout fault, it was an error in judgement by tl. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11546 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
(I'm assuming this poll is about posting the results on the front page.) 2/3 days is good. | ||
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SaftKalasEmil
Sweden213 Posts
Or why not release all the news from TSL on tuesday? it give's alot of time for the writers to do an exilent job and enough time for all the one's who missed the event to see it. Well, what ever you decide to do i think its gonna be great | ||
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tre2ettsexsju
Sweden248 Posts
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Puosu
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
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Not_A_Notion
Ireland441 Posts
Though my solution is pretty simple. Go to TL, click relevant news articles, download torrents, leave TL | ||
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errol1001
454 Posts
instantly - for threads that are made for talking about results, otherwise spoiler tags 2 days - For front page articles that spoil -in the article-, or spoiler tags in the forum 5+ days - for front page, unable to opt-out spoilers, such as poll spoilers, or spoilers in previews of front page articles. Again, nothing of value can be taken from these poll numbers. it is too simple. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 09 2010 06:50 ProoM wrote: In 1 day, everyone who's intrested in TL, every human being in the world, independently from time zone, can watch it :}. 1 day. Assume I'm on a cruise for the weekend. Voted 2 days. | ||
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Speedbump
New Zealand338 Posts
I can see a two-day rule being rather plausible though, as it does give people who are stuck at work/busy with commitments time to see games with the thrill of not knowing results. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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poilord
Germany3252 Posts
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Clow
Brazil880 Posts
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
I agree with Mora (except for the namecalling  ), there's people who want to follow the TSL at a possibly delayed pace.Several times I read that professional quality is one of the goals of TSL 2. Accommodating the minority late-watcher group who would still want to enjoy the TSL without getting spoiled, should be part of that. It is an investment in being careful not to spoil and an exercise in keeping the news reporting, at the same time, attention grabbing and exciting, and it is professional to accommodate as many people as is reasonably possible. | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On February 09 2010 05:08 Carnac wrote: I personally don't care much about spoilers, but I guess 2 days sounds right Exactly. I voted for 2 days. ^^ | ||
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fishyjoes
Germany644 Posts
Of course in the best case there arent ANY spoilers at the front page at all. | ||
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rANDY
United Kingdom748 Posts
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rredtooth
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
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Mora
Canada5235 Posts
On February 10 2010 07:02 Badjas wrote: Voted 3 days. I agree with Mora (except for the namecalling ), there's people who want to follow the TSL at a possibly delayed pace.Several times I read that professional quality is one of the goals of TSL 2. Accommodating the minority late-watcher group who would still want to enjoy the TSL without getting spoiled, should be part of that. It is an investment in being careful not to spoil and an exercise in keeping the news reporting, at the same time, attention grabbing and exciting, and it is professional to accommodate as many people as is reasonably possible. i was particularly aggro that day. the name calling was unnecessary. | ||
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