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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
Stork, Kwanro and Flash... | ||
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sashkata
Bulgaria3241 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
Flash is better than Fantasy but Calm is better than Kwanro, so that balances out. Stork is better than effort, I'd say, but type-B is also better than Shine. So OSL D it is! | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
stork > fantasy flash > effort kwanro < calm type b > shine | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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Frits
11782 Posts
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
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p53
297 Posts
OSL C is rough | ||
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Bifur
Russian Federation1208 Posts
On November 25 2009 07:39 Necosarius wrote: Shit, effort playing in two groups ?! :o On November 25 2009 08:00 s.a.y wrote: stork is on two groups? D and E ? Yeah, they are lucky boys. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
lol | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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niteReloaded
Croatia5281 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
fantasy hasn't been spectacular lately, and neither has kwanro, although both can be very good, so I cancel them out. then I have calm and effort vs stork and flash. Flash is #1 right now, and stork just came 2nd in WCG china, who is #4, and although calm and effort are both doing very well right now, I had to side with stork + flash. | ||
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
The score is the threat level. In my opinion: MSL A: Calm 2, Best 1, Light 1, ForGG 1 (5) OSL C: Fantasy 2, Calm 2, Shine 0, Effort 2 (6) OSL D: Type-b 1, Stork 2, Kwanro 1, Flash 3 (7) MSL E: Canata 0, Hero 0, Movie 0, Stork 2 (2) MSL H: Effort 2, Ruby 0, Firefist 0, Jangbi 1 (3) MSL G: Zero 0, Hyuk 1, Type-b 1, Kal 1 (3) Group D gets my vote. Group C is my close second. I blame Flash for that. | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
On November 25 2009 07:39 Necosarius wrote: Shit, effort playing in two groups ?! :o its Msl and osl group and i see there is a lot of zerg in all of his group | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
On November 25 2009 09:45 Trozz wrote: I'll rate each player. The score is the threat level. In my opinion: MSL A: Calm 2, Best 1, Light 1, ForGG 1 (5) OSL C: Fantasy 2, Calm 2, Shine 0, Effort 2 (6) OSL D: Type-b 1, Stork 2, Kwanro 1, Flash 3 (7) MSL E: Canata 0, Hero 0, Movie 0, Stork 2 (2) MSL H: Effort 2, Ruby 0, Firefist 0, Jangbi 1 (3) MSL G: Zero 0, Hyuk 1, Type-b 1, Kal 1 (3) Group D gets my vote. Group C is my close second. I blame Flash for that. Zero below the likes of Hyuk, Type-b, ForGG, and a couple others? Crazy talk. That doesn't make that group any stronger, but I'm surprised people still don't know just how good Zero is. I'm going with OSL C for the strongest group, like the majority. Everyone knows how good Fantasy, Calm, and Effort are, and Shine has amazing results lately. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On November 25 2009 07:39 Necosarius wrote: Shit, effort playing in two groups ?! :o So is stork EDIT: forgot to give my 2 cents, Group D definitely.. | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On November 25 2009 10:12 Jaksiel wrote: Zero below the likes of Hyuk, Type-b, ForGG, and a couple others? Crazy talk. That doesn't make that group any stronger, but I'm surprised people still don't know just how good Zero is. I'm going with OSL C for the strongest group, like the majority. Everyone knows how good Fantasy, Calm, and Effort are, and Shine has amazing results lately. Seriously, Zero needs to be nicknamed the Invisible Zerg. Went with OSL group C. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17255 Posts
Fantasy only needs to practice one matchup. And a lot of ZvZ's which can be pretty random/luck based. | ||
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
It's got everything. | ||
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
On November 25 2009 07:39 Necosarius wrote: Shit, effort playing in two groups ?! :o msl and osl.. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On November 25 2009 09:45 Trozz wrote: I'll rate each player. The score is the threat level. In my opinion: MSL A: Calm 2, Best 1, Light 1, ForGG 1 (5) OSL C: Fantasy 2, Calm 2, Shine 0, Effort 2 (6) OSL D: Type-b 1, Stork 2, Kwanro 1, Flash 3 (7) MSL E: Canata 0, Hero 0, Movie 0, Stork 2 (2) MSL H: Effort 2, Ruby 0, Firefist 0, Jangbi 1 (3) MSL G: Zero 0, Hyuk 1, Type-b 1, Kal 1 (3) Group D gets my vote. Group C is my close second. I blame Flash for that. Why do people underrate ZerO so much?... seriously... | ||
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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KP_CollectoR
United States744 Posts
OSL C (boooo) is an OSL Silver medalist, MSL Gold medalist and two players who have done nothing in Staleagues (besides Effort winning a non-stacked Blizzcon) Get a clue! See it my way ^^ | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
On November 25 2009 09:45 Trozz wrote: I'll rate each player. The score is the threat level. In my opinion: MSL A: Calm 2, Best 1, Light 1, ForGG 1 (5) OSL C: Fantasy 2, Calm 2, Shine 0, Effort 2 (6) OSL D: Type-b 1, Stork 2, Kwanro 1, Flash 3 (7) MSL E: Canata 0, Hero 0, Movie 0, Stork 2 (2) MSL H: Effort 2, Ruby 0, Firefist 0, Jangbi 1 (3) MSL G: Zero 0, Hyuk 1, Type-b 1, Kal 1 (3) Group D gets my vote. Group C is my close second. I blame Flash for that. I'd rate it like this: MSL A: Calm 3, Best 1, Light 2, ForGG 0 (6) OSL C: Fantasy 2, Calm 3, Shine 2, Effort 3 (10) OSL D: Type-b 1, Stork 3, Kwanro 1, Flash 4 (9) MSL E: Canata 1, Hero 1, Movie 2, Stork 3 (7) MSL H: Effort 3, Ruby 1, Firefist 1, Jangbi 1 (6) MSL G: Zero 2, Hyuk 1, Type-b 1, Kal 2 (6) The two "controversial" ratings are probably Movie, Shine, and Fantasy at 2, but the first two guys are rising fast and Fantasy hasn't shown great stuff recently. | ||
GTR
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Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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PeAcY6969
France621 Posts
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honey_badger
Djibouti46 Posts
OSL C would be gg if you were P. Any group would be gg if you were  Hyuk. | ||
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dangots0ul
United States919 Posts
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JFKWT
Singapore1442 Posts
On November 25 2009 13:10 KP_CollectoR wrote: Come on! You have two OSL winners (Flash/Stork) the MSL Silver medalist (Kwanro) and OSL Ro4 (Type-b) in OSL Group D and THE SILVER MEDALIST (STORK) OSL C (boooo) is an OSL Silver medalist, MSL Gold medalist and two players who have done nothing in Staleagues (besides Effort winning a non-stacked Blizzcon) Get a clue! See it my way ^^ fixed | ||
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dangots0ul
United States919 Posts
On November 25 2009 13:13 Hot_Bid wrote: I'd rate it like this: MSL A: Calm 3, Best 1, Light 2, ForGG 0 (6) OSL C: Fantasy 2, Calm 3, Shine 2, Effort 3 (10) OSL D: Type-b 1, Stork 3, Kwanro 1, Flash 4 (9) MSL E: Canata 1, Hero 1, Movie 2, Stork 3 (7) MSL H: Effort 3, Ruby 1, Firefist 1, Jangbi 1 (6) MSL G: Zero 2, Hyuk 1, Type-b 1, Kal 2 (6) The two "controversial" ratings are probably Movie, Shine, and Fantasy at 2, but the first two guys are rising fast and Fantasy hasn't shown great stuff recently. A lot of this is match up based.. but regardless. i think stork at 3 is too high. hes been very inconsistent and only his PvT stands out. For any P to get a rating equal to that of effort and calm i think is too much. but then again u cant give him 2.5... or can you? Jangbi is 0 in my book. If he didnt have those epic storms against nada and that 1 flash in the pan.. this guy is nothing. | ||
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dangots0ul
United States919 Posts
On November 25 2009 13:10 KP_CollectoR wrote: Come on! You have two OSL winners (Flash/Stork) the MSL Silver medalist (Kwanro) and OSL Ro4 (Type-b) in OSL Group D OSL C (boooo) is an OSL Silver medalist, MSL Gold medalist and two players who have done nothing in Staleagues (besides Effort winning a non-stacked Blizzcon) Get a clue! See it my way ^^ The only thing that could make this group D better was if Casy was in it. omfg god medal ftw. | ||
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On November 25 2009 10:12 Jaksiel wrote: Zero below the likes of Hyuk, Type-b, ForGG, and a couple others? Crazy talk. That doesn't make that group any stronger, but I'm surprised people still don't know just how good Zero is. I'm going with OSL C for the strongest group, like the majority. Everyone knows how good Fantasy, Calm, and Effort are, and Shine has amazing results lately. Lol seriously, such a huge fail, Trozz. Zero is definitely the best player in that group, although Hyuk might be a favourite vs him cause that guys ZvZ is pretty damn good. I pretty much completely agree with hot bids list, except I would probably give Firefist a 0, though I have barely seen any matches of him. Also I find MSL E very tough to predict, you never know if Canata/Hero are gonna play extremely well all of a sudden. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
i think stork at 3 is too high. hes been very inconsistent and only his PvT stands out. What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Stork is a group-stage monster, always has been. | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On November 26 2009 04:10 JWD wrote: Not sure how OSL D has so many votes. How can you compare either Type-b or Kwanro to EffOrt, Calm or Fantasy? 2 players qualify from each OSL group, so a group with 2 garbage players is probably not a Group of Death. How are Typeb + kwanro garbage players? They might have been shitty in the past, but they have been putting up results recently and especially last season. Kwanro outperformed effort in every kespa sanctioned league beating the same guys that beat Effort(Flash,Iris), so what makes Kwanro a crappy player and Effort a good one? Does history matter that much? Both Kwanro and TypeB are A class Zergs + Flash/Stork are S class, whileas Group C has 1 A Class, 1 untested new rookie, 2 S classes, its pretty even, anyone can come out of these groups, and noone is a favorite(except the 2 that won their games today but w/e). | ||
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yukido
Germany102 Posts
I mean, come on, stork and flash? kwanro is quite ok, too. | ||
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Horiz0n
Sweden364 Posts
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On November 25 2009 13:10 KP_CollectoR wrote: Come on! You have two OSL winners (Flash/Stork) the MSL Silver medalist (Kwanro) and OSL Ro4 (Type-b) in OSL Group D OSL C (boooo) is an OSL Silver medalist, MSL Gold medalist and two players who have done nothing in Staleagues (besides Effort winning a non-stacked Blizzcon) Get a clue! See it my way ^^ [x] agree Both OSL groups are hard, but OSL D simply has 4 players who have performed quite well recently. | ||
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endGame
United States394 Posts
EDIT: Although it depends on what you mean by hard; I was assuming it meant hardest to call. Hardest group to play in would be OSL D | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On November 26 2009 04:10 JWD wrote: Not sure how OSL D has so many votes. How can you compare either Type-b or Kwanro to EffOrt, Calm or Fantasy? 2 players qualify from each OSL group, so a group with 2 garbage players is probably not a Group of Death. I'm not sure how osl c has so many votes when. Flash > Effort Stork > Fantasy Kwanro < Calm Type b > Shine Group D just 3 - 1 Group C | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On November 26 2009 13:40 MuffinDude wrote: I'm not sure how osl c has so many votes when. Flash > Effort Stork > Fantasy Kwanro < Calm Type b > Shine Group D just 3 - 1 Group C Stupid logic, not to mention Stork > Fantasy and Type-b > Shine is iffy at best. In Group D Stork and Flash are advancing for sure, and no one's going to care that Kwanro and Type-b get eliminated. On the other hand one of Effort/Flash/Calm is going to be eliminated for sure and that's a real pity. | ||
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hyst.eric.al
United States2332 Posts
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Darkn3ss
United States717 Posts
Why isn't Jaedong in any of these? (Pardon my lack of proknowledge...)Edit: Oops! That's cuz he's in OSL A... Got it. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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IceCube
Croatia1403 Posts
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
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Snet
United States3573 Posts
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
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Fr33t
United States1128 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
type-b, stork, kwanro, and flash is definitely the hardest group. flash is on fire. stork is on fire. kwanro is playing as well as he ever has in his career. type-b is always dangerous. | ||
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bEsT[Alive]
606 Posts
I voted Group D with Group A coming in a close 2nd. Here's my reasoning why: Type-b, Flash, Stork and Kwanro aren't push overs: Type-b was in the top 4 last season; Kwanro made it to the finals; Stork is showing good results and Flash is Flash (no TvT for you). Even though the maps are zerg friendly both zergs have to practice for ZPT. Likewise Flash and Stork have to practice for two matchups instead of 1; whereas, Group C *gulp* have only two races or two possible matchups unless your name is Fantasy where it is only 1. Fantasy will make it to the next round but the question becomes which A+ zerg will follow? Load of horseshit if you ask me muahahaha. Yes, we know zvz has more luck with the BOs than any other matchup but still. -.- | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
However, out of the Type-b, Stork, Kwanro, Flash group, Flash and Stork possess more skill than anyone from the OSL C group. If the hardest group means the hardest group to get out of, if you happen to be inserted into it, then it would be OSL D. Because the chance is, nobody would be able to take Flash and Stork's spot unless you are Jaedong or Bisu. Type-B and Kwanro aren't scrubs either. | ||
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MageKirby
United States535 Posts
On November 26 2009 14:13 hyst.eric.al wrote: why do some groups have two of the same person, like calm Like someone else said before me, there are two individual leagues: MSL and OSL. Read the choices more closely plz lol | ||
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739
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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ThunderGod
New Zealand897 Posts
then probably MSL E. Depends how you interpret the question though, I guess mine were more hardest groups to pick. | ||
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LorD_PaLmersToN
Canada375 Posts
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On November 26 2009 13:49 writer22816 wrote: Stupid logic, not to mention Stork > Fantasy and Type-b > Shine is iffy at best. In Group D Stork and Flash are advancing for sure, and no one's going to care that Kwanro and Type-b get eliminated. On the other hand one of Effort/Flash/Calm is going to be eliminated for sure and that's a real pity. storks done more than fantasy and same goes for type b than shine OSL d has more talent than osl c imo. | ||
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Mastermind
Canada7096 Posts
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BloodDrunK
Bangladesh2767 Posts
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dirtbiker95
United States7 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
OSL D has the highest average skill level, but it's not as close as OSL C due to a simply  Flashtacular reason... | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
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wswordsmen
United States987 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
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TranCe
Germany19 Posts
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PangO
Chile1870 Posts
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Qwertify
United States2531 Posts
On November 25 2009 07:42 Kare wrote: Stork and Flash, can it get much harder then that?? And you may also be Kwanrolled as well. | ||
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