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August 2nd, 2009 08:18 GMT
Note: This article contains spoilers from Day 2 of the Shinhan Proleague 2008-09 Semi-Final which finished just hours ago. Please do not read on if you don't want to be spoiled.
[image loading]Shinhan Proleague 2008/2009 Playoff Coverage by Riptide and Heyoka

After two games that were completely one sided, and more upsets than most of us could handle, the Semi Finals of the Shinhan Proleague 2008-09 came down to a razor's edge, a game that we all knew was coming sooner or later. In the preview of this match we introduced our protagonists, and just a few hours ago they took to the stage to decide once and for all who the Overmind favoured. The odds were as high as they get, the game was pure electricity, and the Road to Pusan was illuminated by the magic of one man.

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The wonderful wizard struck hard on Day 1.

If there's anything that comes to our minds when we look at Day 1, it's this - pure wizardry. Facing a CJ Entus that had played more playoffs, and as it was pointed out repeatedly in the run up to this match, had a lot more depth, Hwaseung OZ, led by striker Lee Jaedong cleared the pitch of everyone shortly after half time on day one. The final score was 4-1, and OZ looked ready to go the distance. While Hiya and Backho supporting Jaedong was a prerequisite of OZ's success, no one, and I mean no one expected a no name Protoss to take Iris out, and take out convincingly at that, with some great Reaver micro to boot. As it turns out, practice makes Perfectman, and it is certainly what got OZ through the first day of these Semi Finals - lots and lots of practice.

As with most of the other playoffs, however, Day 2 was a totally different kettle of fish. Bouncing back from a disastrous performance the day before, CJ rolled through OZ, going 4-0 and topping it all off with an Orion based snipe of none other than Lee Jaedong. From Skyhigh, to Movie and Iris, CJ opened strong this morning and sealed the deal with excellent ling timing from a Zerg that had barely played 10 games in his career. In beautiful twist of fate, this weekend saw the best ZvZer of all time being taken out by a player that had a career average of 23% in the matchup. OZ were 4-0d, and CJ fans were ecstatic.

Excitement reached a fever pitch as Jaedong and EffOrt were announced for the super ace, and just like last week, fans closed their eyes, swallowed hard and wished it was over. Many will say that a single ZvZ is no way to end a series this important, and to some extent we do agree with them. It is perhaps a little unfair to stake the fate of an entire team on the shoulders of one player. Critics will point out that CJ is 5 - 4 to OZ in this series, and that the super ace doesn't encourage team play, and instead benefits teams with super stars.

At the end of the day though, we all have to acknowledge that the Semi Finals of the Shinhan Proleague 2008-09 gave us exactly what we knew was coming - a super ace played out between the best of the best, and we for one were not complaining. This game was in many ways just another arena for the proscene's biggest ZvZ rivalry to play itself out. Of course, this time, unlike in an individual league, the stakes were far higher, and the pressure much worse, and it is in this setting that the Zerg with the most experience triumphed.

Shinhan Proleague 2008-09 Semi Final Super Ace Match - Jaedong vs EffOrt at Neo Medusahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Pte9K-BqM&feature=channel_page


Although one super ace is certainly not enough to crown a Zerg master, it is enough to highlight who is better at the moment. This game showed us clearly that despite EffOrt's rapid rise to fame, Jaedong was still very much in control of the Hive. This is not to say that EffOrt isn't really, really good. As we saw last week he is a veritable wrecking machine when given the opportunity. Today was a very different setting though, and indeed, the young CJ player faced a very different opponent.

Despite an embarrassing loss to a no name like Orion, Jaedong kept his cool, and went in to the booth to win. Although their builds were almost identical early game, there were subtle divergences in their play as they both headed towards lair. Despite an early ling skirmish that still left them both fairly even, Jaedong's mutalisk micro, which can only be described as insane slowly started giving him the advantage. Less than a minute later, EffOrt stared in disbelief at an empty eco line and quickly dying spawning pool. The game was clearly over and yet Kim Jung Woo was unable to to type out. Last week's victor was this week's victim, victim of the Wizard.

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Jaedong's stare has been known to melt metal.

If we scared you right now, you can relax - we're not going to use the B word. Yes the kid broke 3000 on the Kespa ranking, yes he's been practically unbeatable, but we're not focusing on that right now. What we're looking at is how the super ace format is almost custom designed for the Lee Jaedong victory train. Indeed, as they look towards Pusan, Coach Cho no doubt knows that his goal there is to win a day. Win a day, get Jaedong to super ace - that's OZ strategy in a nutshell, a strategy that worked for them today against a team that is arguably better than them in terms of player vs player analysis. Will this approach work against SKT T1 next weekend? We don't know. What we do know is that it worked well for them here, and that they are through to Starcraft's grandest stage, led by a man who clearly knows what he wants.

Seeing that this was possibly the most rabidly bandwaggoned game in these playoffs yet, it didn't seem fitting to give it a send off without listening to a voice from each team's fanbase. Let's look at how Atrioc and Hot_Bid see the events that unfolded in Proleague's penultimate showdown.

Week of Oz
by Atrioc

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The fans have been very worried about me. Since I have been playing many games in the proleague, they worried that I might carelessly leave out from the individual leagues but since I have advanced, I will show my good form in the round of 4. Since the very important proleague is left, I will make this week the "Week of Jaedong".

Bacchus OSL Quarter Finals Winners Interviews

Despite what the above quote may say - I can assure you it is not the truth. This is not, ladies and gentleman, the week of Jaedong. Yes, he did triumph over Canata in the MSL and Zero in the OSL. He is #1 in the Power Rank, in ELO, and just became the first person in history to break 3,000 KeSPA with a commanding lead over his rivals. Finally, he delivered the final killing blow to CJ Entus in a high-stakes ace match

And yet, we must give pause and ask ourselves, is there really any surprise in a winner doing some winning? Jaedong has gold medals, fans, and proleague success precisely because these fantastic accomplishments are the things he does all the time. There is a reason, during the first night of these fantastic proleague semis, that the basically unknown Perfectman was chosen as MVP and not Jaedong despite his clutch win over CJ’s best player: the magic of the unexpected.

A rookie showcased brilliant play against a veteran, beat the odds, and pulled out a great win that left fans cheering and impressed. Jaedong merely delivered what we already expected of him. Perhaps that is the burden of being a titan: your wins become expected rather than celebrated, but whatever the case – it was the night of Perfectman, not Jaedong.

The same principle applies to this week. Give amazing credit to LJD for a goddamn stellar accomplishment and for playing Zerg (and Starcraft in general) at such a high level so consistently, but this is not the week of Jaedong.

This is the week of Oz.

Now, in the first time since the loss of Anytime and fOrGG, do people other than the Hwaseung loyal see the capabilities of this team. They see the potential in its rookies, the power of its rigorous practice schedule, and the leadership of its coach. What was laughed at and discounted as a one-man, no depth, “Jaedong Oz” became the playoff monster who took on the most “deep” team in Korea in two consecutive Bo7’s and walked away the champion.

Obviously I’m favoring the first day of play over the second, where Oz got 4-0’d (though while looking strong, especially Hiya) and that is because with every single playoff match so far going to super ace, it seems that any team that has made it this far is good enough to beat any other. So whoever loses the first night’s match (which would’ve been it under the old system) is driven to practice heavily and win the second. A night of celebrating your first day win seems to have caused every team that got it to lose on Day 2. It doesn’t change the fact that Oz won a Bo7 on depth, not Jaedong.

Now all that awaits is what could rightfully be called the final boss of proleague, SKT1, an organization that probably holds more team trophies than everyone else combined. This unlikely crew of underdogs prepares once again to fight against the odds in a grab for lasting glory and the right to be mentioned amongst the best. Jaedong, now secure in his dominance over the Zerg race after putting down the only real challenger, must face a far more deadly and far more experienced opponent: the only one in his path to unquestioned #1…. Bisu.

Fans of epic Stacraft… you are in luck.
See you at the finals.

So, while OZ will be headed to Pusan next weekend, CJ will be going back to the team house to reassess themselves for next year. As Hot_Bid points out below, they had a great run these playoffs and should build on this experience as they get ready for another go at the title.

Year of Entus
by Hot_Bid
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The last two weeks have been a rollercoaster of CJ emotions. First, the ridiculous high of Movie's ace win over Leta, then the loss in the second match against Hite, then EffOrt's super ace win over Yarnc. The second match against Samsung was even more ridiculous, as CJ went from the pits of despair, 1-3 down and losing, to four straight wins and an euphoric ace match over Stork.

Then this weekend, Oz came out firing and CJ's players choked away a 1-0 lead to lose 1-4. It felt hopeless -- we had to beat the all but invincible Jaedong on a map (Neo Medusa) that basically forced a ZvZ. But when CJ rolled through Oz 4-0 on Day 2, including an improbable and hilarious Orion upset of Jaedong, we thought... "maybe." It was a crack in Lee Jae Dong's armor. And when the lights turned on and two Zerg players stood side by side, ready to play one game to decide it all, we finally did not feel that Jaedong fear. Instead, it was a feeling of excitement, of anxiety, of hope.

We had hope. We were the underdog, no doubt about that, but we were defiant. Because EffOrt brought with him the weight of history and the fire of someone who wasn't intimidated by the reigning Zerg king. We had a fierce kid who carried us through Hite and Samsung, and we believed in him. We knew he may never be as accomplished as Jaedong. We knew he may never reach Jaedong's peak skill level. But we also knew at this moment that we would never trade him for anyone. Effort was capable of a win. He's our own home grown CJ ace. We watched him rise, stumble, and gain confidence. we watched him break through. Finally, after all these seasons, we had a player who made us feel like we were watching the ghost of Ma Jae Yoon.

Alas, it was not to be. But that does not mean this season was a failure. CJ Entus won two playoff matches, but more importantly, successfully transitioned to their next generation. Effort, Skyhigh, and Movie will all be here next season, with one more year of experience under their belts. Great run CJ. Keep fighting, and Watch the finals with hunger. Because next year, we're going all the way.

Of course, it would be rude to just hear what the fans have to say, right? After all, it's Lee Jaedong himself who went out today and secured OZ's only win of the day, and it's Coach Cho who sat and smiled to himself as JD waltzed all over CJ's best. Let's hear what this duo had to say about this weekend's games.

Jaedong: "I want to win in the Grand Finals with a smile."
"I want to set a record no one can ever surpass."


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- Your thoughts on your win in the final ace match?
▲ I thought a lot about the final ace match on the way to the studio today. Even if I won today, my team might still end up losing so I was worrying a lot about playing on Neo Medusa, and prepared a few plans. I am relieved that we ended up winning, and I hope I don't get too complacent just because we won today, and I want to eventually win in the Grand Finals with a smile.

- You lost to Orion today in the fourth set. Did you have insufficient practice time?
▲ It's not that. When I practice for my games, I practice for both but Orion played mindgames well, using something I did not think of. I too thought that I had lost completely in the psychological warfare. That is why I immediately put that aside and concentrated on the next match, focusing on the micro, just the way I practiced. I knew that there was a high chance I would be playing against a Zerg in the final ace match.

- Were you certain that EffOrt would be sent out in the final ace match?
▲ I thought that they might send out a Terran, but I was over 80% sure that they would send out EffOrt.

- How did you feel when you confirmed that EffOrt was playing in the final ace match?
▲ I felt very good. I defeated him yesterday, and as I warmed up after doing some mutalisk micro in the fourth set. After the match started, I was in a favorable position, and I felt that as long as I win here and now, I would be able to feel a sense of satisfaction. I played the game with my mind at ease.

- You are now ranked 'most number of wins' in the post-season of Proleague.
▲ It's a shared first place, but there is still a chance for me to take it all for myself, so I feel that I will definitely be able to become the sole number one. I am very proud of setting such a record, and I want to set a record no one can ever surpass.

- Any final words?
▲ So many players helped me with practice. Especially Samsung Khan's great and oDin. eSTRO and KT players helped out as well, and I received a lot of help from WeMade FOX players who helped me practice simulated games. I am grateful to everyone who helped me with practice.


Coach Cho: "We will never lose in the Grand Finals ever again."
"With our previous loss in mind, we will definitely win this time round."


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- Your team is finally going to the Grand Finals after two years.
▲ It's our first time in two years so it feels refreshing. We lost the first time we got into the Grand Finals, so we will prepare hard for this Grand Finals and produce good results.

- The game was forced to go into the final ace match.
▲ When we first returned from our vacations, we felt it was impossible to practice for both day 1 and 2's maps in such a short period of time. Thankfully, Jaedong's record on the final ace match was good so we knew that as long as we won in day 1, we would be able to get into the Grand Finals. Maps used in day 2 are very luck and scouting-dependent, so although we weren't able to guarantee a win in the normal day 2 match, we were confident of winning the final ace match. However, a 0-4 loss in day 2 came as a surprise. We will use our remaining time to prepare hard for the Grand Finals.

- How would you rate SKT1, your opponents in the Grand Finals?
▲ SKT1 is very strong in the Grand Finals, and they even have a record of wining the 'triple crown' (TN: Winning both Round 1, Round 2 and Grand Finals in the former Proleague format). I think that for both SKT1 and ourselves, this finals will be very meaningful. SKT1's coaching staff and players' teamwork and large number of ace players is a huge plus for them, so I believe that they will not be an easy opponent.

- How do you intend to prepare for the Grand Finals against SKT1?
▲ I will send the players our accordingly after looking through their capabilities and deciding on the finalised build to use. There may be snipes going on, as shown in day 1, so I will work hard to make full use of the players' capabilities.

- The main players, other than Jaedong, are still continuing to slump.
▲ It's a very worrying problem. The new players won yesterday so I believed that the main players will pick up that momentum and do well today, but they all disappointingly lost. I believe that they themselves will know what is wrong the best, and that they will perform better in their next matches. I hope that everyone will go all-out with the remaining time we have to work hard and even unlock their hidden potentials.

Source:
Interview with Jaedong
Interview with Coach Cho

So, we leave you with that. It was an exciting day for Starcraft fans - perhaps not as exciting as last week's amazing comeback, but still very much an afternoon of Broodwar that really got you going. We wanted a super ace, we got one, and we should be pretty happy about it. Although EffOrt tried valiantly to defend his fellow Entusmen, Lee Jaedong was just too much for him this time around. For today, the battle for control of the Overmind has been decided, and only one Zerg controls the swarm. Of course, the struggle is far from over for him, because in less than a week he has to lead his men into the mother of all matchups, and it is there that his mettle will be truly tested. Jaedong's mutas may have won his team this series, but in facing SKT they will need a special kind of magic to see them through. Whether they have what it takes is to conquer a team like T1 is something that we don't know. What we do know though is that with the wonderful wizard at their helm, and the super ace format on their side, they certainly have a better chance at it than most other teams. For the moment though, they can all just relax in the knowledge that they are indeed going to Pusan.


Thanks to alffla and Silversky for the graphics, Atrioc and Hot_Bid for the fan perspectives, Konadora for the quick translations, InToTheWow for day one coverage, pachi for the banner and Fomos for the pics!
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66145 Posts
August 02 2009 08:36 GMT
#2
Great job everyone!

FML though. Oh well, at least SKT1 will be facing an easier opponent :p
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Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
August 02 2009 08:40 GMT
#3
Kona do you ever read?
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Valentir
Profile Joined May 2008
Norway266 Posts
August 02 2009 08:47 GMT
#4
awesome article
frakkin hell.
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 02 2009 08:48 GMT
#5
Atrioc for President
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
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Singapore66145 Posts
August 02 2009 08:49 GMT
#6
On August 02 2009 17:40 ChaseR wrote:
Kona do you ever read?

i already explained why i post so fast for news threads -_-
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 08:50:49
August 02 2009 08:50 GMT
#7
Nice article riptide!
Reading these news posts is almost as awesome as watching the games themselves.
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United States4549 Posts
August 02 2009 08:54 GMT
#8

Alas, it was not to be. But that does not mean this season was a failure. CJ Entus won two playoff matches, but more importantly, successfully transitioned to their next generation. Effort, Skyhigh, and Movie will all be here next season, with one more year of experience under their belts. Great run CJ. Keep fighting, and Watch the finals with hunger. Because next year, we're going all the way.


Yes~~

Huge props to everyone who worked on this!! You guys are awesome
Great write-up as always!
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 02 2009 08:56 GMT
#9
T1 will rightfully stomp Oz, can't wait for it. I think T1 vs CJ would've been more interesting.
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
August 02 2009 08:59 GMT
#10
On August 02 2009 17:56 Carnac wrote:
T1 will rightfully stomp Oz, can't wait for it.


This man speaks the truth. I dunno if OZ can even justify travel fare to Pusan, since they're just gonna come right back empty handed.
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Profile Joined January 2009
Israel226 Posts
August 02 2009 09:02 GMT
#11
damn bisu fantasy canata best 4 caliber players
wow
well i said oz was fucked vs cj
although super ace vs cj is 80% win
now it will be like 55% win if it even gets there
any way go oz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
game over dude .... game over!!!!
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Singapore66145 Posts
August 02 2009 09:02 GMT
#12
On August 02 2009 17:59 riptide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 17:56 Carnac wrote:
T1 will rightfully stomp Oz, can't wait for it.


This man speaks the truth. I dunno if OZ can even justify travel fare to Pusan, since they're just gonna come right back empty handed.

They are probably depending on Jaedong to win some special prize so that they'll have some money to cover their trip expenses
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United States10264 Posts
August 02 2009 09:15 GMT
#13
Nice article! And so quick
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USA29055 Posts
August 02 2009 09:21 GMT
#14
oz vs skt1 is going to be fucking epic. Fantasy and Bisu play such a fun style.. cannot wait.
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Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
August 02 2009 09:22 GMT
#15
Easy win for Oz. BeSt sucks(ESPECIALLY at PvZ), Fantasy is only good TvP, Bisu will get stomped by Jaedong(if this happens Oz will win, and it probably will), Canata is overrated, and SKT1 failzergs are a free win.

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Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
August 02 2009 09:23 GMT
#16
Wow.
As a Jaedong Oz fan I'm happy.
Buuuut
At the same time I was kinda hoping CJ (my second favourite team) would win
Because I think it's pretty clear that CJ has a better chance at taking down SKT1 than Oz does.

Let's hope we see more Perfectman next week!
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
August 02 2009 09:27 GMT
#17
Wow. Up really quick.

One thing to note about JD breaking 3000 in the KeSPA ranking is that in all fairness the rating system has changed a lot over the years, so it's really unfair to compare different players by their raw numerical score. On today's modern system, I can't imagine that JD's rating would be better than NaDa's at the time he "gold grand slammed," because winning 3 starleagues at the same time has got to be one hell of a ranking booster.:p
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
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Philippines8437 Posts
August 02 2009 09:29 GMT
#18
Can't wait for the grand finals.....
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Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
August 02 2009 09:30 GMT
#19
No one can survive the stare. Not even SKT1.

Maybe bunkie.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
August 02 2009 09:31 GMT
#20
Great Article.. lets hope for a good final.. and dont start to bashing OZ, maybe u will get pwned like CJ on the first day.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
August 02 2009 09:32 GMT
#21
i don't know why people hate on Oz so much. they did, afterall, come in second in proleague regular season. although if they would've ended up first everyone would still be saying they sucked. it would be beyond belief if they won vs skt, but i'm still hoping
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 02 2009 09:35 GMT
#22
On August 02 2009 18:22 tobi9999 wrote:
Easy win for Oz. BeSt sucks(ESPECIALLY at PvZ), Fantasy is only good TvP, Bisu will get stomped by Jaedong(if this happens Oz will win, and it probably will), Canata is overrated, and SKT1 failzergs are a free win.


Bisu is about the same as Jaedong and miles above everyone else on Oz
Fantasy is a little below Jaedong (but is very, very capable of beating him) and miles above everyone else on Oz
Canata is a favourite against all Oz except Jaedong
Best is a favourite or on par against all Oz except Jaedong

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Singapore66145 Posts
August 02 2009 09:50 GMT
#23
On August 02 2009 18:22 tobi9999 wrote:
Easy win for Oz. BeSt sucks(ESPECIALLY at PvZ), Fantasy is only good TvP, Bisu will get stomped by Jaedong(if this happens Oz will win, and it probably will), Canata is overrated, and SKT1 failzergs are a free win.


Are you sure you were watching the correct games?
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fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
August 02 2009 09:51 GMT
#24
anddd oov and boxer can lol cakez over the rest of oz
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Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 02 2009 09:55 GMT
#25
On August 02 2009 18:51 fearus wrote:
anddd oov and boxer can lol cakez over the rest of oz

-_- You serious?..
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
August 02 2009 09:57 GMT
#26
My prediction : IF JD can take Bisu OR Fantasy then they start from 1-2 (Canata and Bisu/Fantasy instant win) so OZ have to take 2 other matches. Best...maybe Backho can take him, so 1 more win. Hiya or Perfectman...thats all Oz left.
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Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 02 2009 10:10 GMT
#27
Oz will take it to the Super Ace and JD will win it!
Tone_
Profile Joined May 2009
United Kingdom554 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 10:17:52
August 02 2009 10:16 GMT
#28
Nice writeup. CJ did well and had the better team on the day. Just need a stronger ace maybe.

oh and skt will crush oz
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khersai
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland366 Posts
August 02 2009 10:21 GMT
#29
great read, but you should wait a little longer before putting it on tl
"wonderful wizard" is a pretty obvious spoiler for anyone who read a few books in his life
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
August 02 2009 10:22 GMT
#30
Jeez, everyone here gets so far ahead of themselves with predictions.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 10:37:18
August 02 2009 10:35 GMT
#31
Great article. Totally agree with Hot_Bid as a fellow CJ fan. On the other hand I just can't help feeling repulsed by the bunch of scrubs that is Hwaseung OZ, or should I say Jaedong Inc. Still happy to see CJ destroyed them today, though, that is something to be happy about and I 'm looking confidently to the future. I'm also confident SKT1 will rape OZ and that is something to find a measure of solace in as well.
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
August 02 2009 10:37 GMT
#32
nice writeup, that was fast i think oz stands a really good shot at winning at least 1 day next week, but it all really comes down to who gets the more favorable matchups. coaches have their work cut out for them
Marine50
Profile Joined September 2007
Australia1764 Posts
August 02 2009 10:38 GMT
#33
On August 02 2009 18:35 Carnac wrote:
...is a favourite against all Oz except Jaedong
...is a favourite or on par against all Oz except Jaedong

...

can apply to most of the playoff teams roster players
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 02 2009 10:41 GMT
#34
I know. Nothing is really set in stone at this point, as we've seen throughout the playoffs, but I have supreme confidence in T1 winning this
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Velthice
Profile Joined July 2009
United States10 Posts
August 02 2009 11:18 GMT
#35
It was good to see jaedong put to rest any doubt in his position as the best zerg. I look forward to the upcoming games.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 02 2009 11:20 GMT
#36
This new playoff system really pisses me off. Once again we have a team who did better overall on the two nights and yet it all came down to one player. Ridiculous...
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Finland474 Posts
August 02 2009 11:22 GMT
#37
On August 02 2009 18:22 tobi9999 wrote:
Easy win for Oz. BeSt sucks(ESPECIALLY at PvZ), Fantasy is only good TvP, Bisu will get stomped by Jaedong(if this happens Oz will win, and it probably will), Canata is overrated, and SKT1 failzergs are a free win.



Can´t hear you.... over the sound of nukes hitting Jaedongs hatcheries..
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 11:26:40
August 02 2009 11:23 GMT
#38
SKT is such a huge favorite. But maybe they'll send out 2 Zergs? And if Oz manages to defeat them and then have JD defeat someone else and win the Ace, they might be able to force the Super Ace... They basically have to rely on SKT T1 coach being dumb and sending 2 Zergs. But he's done dumber things, so who knows...(Hyuk as an Ace a while ago, anyone?)

On August 02 2009 20:20 Plexa wrote:
This new playoff system really pisses me off. Once again we have a team who did better overall on the two nights and yet it all came down to one player. Ridiculous...


Sigh, why are you... and everyone else always complaining about this? I'm a CJ fan and you don't hear me complaining. That's the format, just live with it please...
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Singapore6164 Posts
August 02 2009 11:23 GMT
#39
On August 02 2009 17:56 Carnac wrote:
T1 will rightfully stomp Oz, can't wait for it. I think T1 vs CJ would've been more interesting.

so true
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
August 02 2009 11:23 GMT
#40
On August 02 2009 20:20 Plexa wrote:
This new playoff system really pisses me off. Once again we have a team who did better overall on the two nights and yet it all came down to one player. Ridiculous...

It's actually 5-5
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
August 02 2009 11:25 GMT
#41
as long as skt sends boxer, id be rooting for skt
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 02 2009 12:14 GMT
#42
aww CJ

great article (as always)

rooting for SKT1
boxer vs JD for a super ace would be the best (especially if boxer bunker rushes)
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Batibot
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines348 Posts
August 02 2009 12:40 GMT
#43
On August 02 2009 18:27 Mortality wrote:
Wow. Up really quick.

One thing to note about JD breaking 3000 in the KeSPA ranking is that in all fairness the rating system has changed a lot over the years, so it's really unfair to compare different players by their raw numerical score. On today's modern system, I can't imagine that JD's rating would be better than NaDa's at the time he "gold grand slammed," because winning 3 starleagues at the same time has got to be one hell of a ranking booster.:p

When did Nada gold grand slammed?
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banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
August 02 2009 12:59 GMT
#44
reading these interviews and the skt1, only one conclusion : Grand Finals are going to be totally awesome omg.

hoping for jd vs fantasy both days.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 02 2009 13:07 GMT
#45
I kinda want Best to get a PvZ so he can go sair-reaver, show his trademark Doh-sairs, and then steamroll the Zerg with a huge army he shouldn't have (He did this vs Savior I recall haha)
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 02 2009 13:08 GMT
#46
On August 02 2009 18:30 miseiler wrote:
No one can survive the stare. Not even SKT1.

Maybe bunkie.

smile > stare?
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 02 2009 13:09 GMT
#47
On August 02 2009 20:23 Carnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 20:20 Plexa wrote:
This new playoff system really pisses me off. Once again we have a team who did better overall on the two nights and yet it all came down to one player. Ridiculous...

It's actually 5-5

5-5 with the super ace, 5-4 without

I'm not a CJ fan but I do think its really dumb =[
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errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
August 02 2009 13:15 GMT
#48
On August 02 2009 22:09 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 20:23 Carnac wrote:
On August 02 2009 20:20 Plexa wrote:
This new playoff system really pisses me off. Once again we have a team who did better overall on the two nights and yet it all came down to one player. Ridiculous...

It's actually 5-5

5-5 with the super ace, 5-4 without

I'm not a CJ fan but I do think its really dumb =[


By your logic, we should just crown SKT and call it a day. It would be an injustice if another team took home the crown when SKT did better overall for the entire year.
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
August 02 2009 13:19 GMT
#49
It feels like yesterday, that EffOrt made his first appearance in a televised game against Kal, where he beat him 2-0 in the Incruit OSL Robin Round stages... Good times :D
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dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
August 02 2009 13:21 GMT
#50
Should've sent Orion again... : (

Go SKT1! You must win vs. the one-man-army!
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
August 02 2009 14:24 GMT
#51
On August 02 2009 19:22 EvoChamber wrote:
Jeez, everyone here gets so far ahead of themselves with predictions.

It's cool.

We can just laugh at them later when they are all wrong~
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Khos
Profile Joined October 2008
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 14:36:39
August 02 2009 14:34 GMT
#52
On August 02 2009 22:09 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 20:23 Carnac wrote:
On August 02 2009 20:20 Plexa wrote:
This new playoff system really pisses me off. Once again we have a team who did better overall on the two nights and yet it all came down to one player. Ridiculous...

It's actually 5-5

5-5 with the super ace, 5-4 without

I'm not a CJ fan but I do think its really dumb =[


It's the same way CJ was able to advance past Khan.
Khan 7 to CJ's 6, going to super ace for a 7-7 CJ victory, with EffOrt winning 4 out of the total needed games!
That's the system and nothing we can really do about it, at least it leads to exciting ace matches.

Anyway, awesome to see Oz go to the finals, predicting an obvious Jaedong v Bisu super ace, but anything can happen.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 02 2009 14:53 GMT
#53
I got a little emotional.
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
August 02 2009 15:05 GMT
#54
On August 02 2009 23:34 Khos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2009 22:09 Plexa wrote:
On August 02 2009 20:23 Carnac wrote:
On August 02 2009 20:20 Plexa wrote:
This new playoff system really pisses me off. Once again we have a team who did better overall on the two nights and yet it all came down to one player. Ridiculous...

It's actually 5-5

5-5 with the super ace, 5-4 without

I'm not a CJ fan but I do think its really dumb =[


It's the same way CJ was able to advance past Khan.
Khan 7 to CJ's 6, going to super ace for a 7-7 CJ victory, with EffOrt winning 4 out of the total needed games!
That's the system and nothing we can really do about it, at least it leads to exciting ace matches.

Anyway, awesome to see Oz go to the finals, predicting an obvious Jaedong v Bisu super ace, but anything can happen.


Don't forget, Khan barely eked out a win against stx, calm was beating great until he decided that he was too good for muta over scourge micro. Then Stx kicked the crap out of khan on day 2 and still lost -_-
This 2 day series thing really is somewhat stupid.
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barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
August 02 2009 15:23 GMT
#55
This is going to be almost impossible for OZ but there always is the wonderful wizard himself so who knows...
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JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 16:09:16
August 02 2009 15:30 GMT
#56
Hype for grand finals:

Thezerg vs Lomo
Best vs Perfectman
Canata vs Hiya
Fantasy vs Backho

and of course the super ace Bisu vs Jaedong?

oops
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ichimarugin680
Profile Joined February 2009
United States182 Posts
August 02 2009 15:45 GMT
#57
Well oz won faire and square both teams new the format none complained both team practiced and we were treated as underdogs even after we knew the format so any complaints are just ridiculous
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
August 02 2009 15:48 GMT
#58
great article

seriously any team sends out a zerg vs jaedong[especially super aCE] is the most awful decision.We all know eff0rt is currently the best CJ player but after losing to Calm and JD,if i was the coach i would send out either Movie or SKyhigh .JD has like 99.99% of winning any Z player regardless who they are but hes isnt guarantee a win if going other race

CJ,you have done well in the playoff but JD is a god.
skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
August 02 2009 15:48 GMT
#59
On August 03 2009 00:30 JFKWT wrote:
Hype for grand finals:

Hyuk vs Lomo
Thezerg vs Movie
Best vs Perfectman
Canata vs Hiya
Fantasy vs Backho

and of course the super ace Bisu vs Jaedong?

movie is on cj. not really sure who you meant there, since i can't see anyone getting hyped for young unless they get off on watching epic failure, and killer and ggaemo are not protoss.
Temporus
Profile Joined July 2009
United States8 Posts
August 02 2009 16:26 GMT
#60
Nice Article, cant wait for the finals.
benutbutter
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States66 Posts
August 02 2009 16:49 GMT
#61
It's so nice to see Jaedong so happy.
Too bad SKT will win the Grand Final!
PerfectSplit
Profile Joined August 2009
1 Post
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 17:37:14
August 02 2009 17:36 GMT
#62
I found the real reason why Jaedong lost to Orion

Epic high five:

RippingFlesh
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada22 Posts
August 02 2009 18:00 GMT
#63
GJ guys. Thanks a lot for translating the interviews.
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
August 02 2009 18:03 GMT
#64
awesome article
stoked for the grand finals!
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 02 2009 18:36 GMT
#65
"- Any final words?
▲ So many players helped me with practice. Especially Samsung Khan's great and oDin. eSTRO and KT players helped out as well, and I received a lot of help from WeMade FOX players who helped me practice simulated games. I am grateful to everyone who helped me with practice."

-Jaedong

HAHAHA, it looks like Khan wanted revenge. And they got it to!
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 19:22:10
August 02 2009 19:10 GMT
#66
On August 02 2009 20:20 Plexa wrote:
This new playoff system really pisses me off. Once again we have a team who did better overall on the two nights and yet it all came down to one player. Ridiculous...

Yeah, lets go back to the old system where the team who did better on the first nigh... oh wait. Why is SC an exception for you when it comes to sets vs matches? Roddick took 39 games to Federer's 38. Federer wins (and he WAS the better player.)

Prediction: SKT should obviously be the favorite, but I think Oz is going to make it closer than people expect. They'll be on the edge of taking 1 of the sets (and be close to winning it all), but still lose 2-0.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
August 02 2009 19:16 GMT
#67
I still think T1 will win, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Oz puts up a decent fight.

I was hoping they'd send out skyhigh(or Orion for the lulz) though. Not cause I think Effort had a higher chance of losing, but I'd like to see a great TvZ.

This article was even longer and better than most riptide! Props, looks like you put a lot of effort in this.(no pun intended)
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Profile Joined October 2008
United States206 Posts
August 02 2009 19:28 GMT
#68
Jaedong is a beast.
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
August 02 2009 19:49 GMT
#69
I woke up in the morning and the first thing I saw was this thread. Such a nice read though I still think we need more discussion about this "perfectman"

But in any case, OZ did really well on day 1 and they made it this far, however like me and many of SKT1 fans out there, this is it. It's the border and end line for OZ and SKT1 will prevail. So be prepared Team Jaedong!

And...

On August 03 2009 03:36 hiro protagonist wrote:
"- Any final words?
▲ So many players helped me with practice. Especially Samsung Khan's great and oDin. eSTRO and KT players helped out as well, and I received a lot of help from WeMade FOX players who helped me practice simulated games. I am grateful to everyone who helped me with practice."

-Jaedong

HAHAHA, it looks like Khan wanted revenge. And they got it to!


haha, I saw that too. When I first saw the interview, I wasn't surprised since I sort of had this feeling that Khan would help Jaedong but it made me lol!
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Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
August 02 2009 21:51 GMT
#70
I have a question about jaedong vs orion. what kind of mind games did orion play?
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ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
August 02 2009 22:13 GMT
#71
Argh Jaedong is my favourite player, but SKT1 my favourite team.

Near impossible for Oz to win, but wouldn't it be epic to see a bunch of ninja snipes and a Perfectman vs. Fantasy ace match with Perfectman winning? LOL

I wish both teams could win, or that Jaedong was on SKT1 (holy crap would that be imba).
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Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
August 02 2009 22:39 GMT
#72
Hotbid wrote:
must face a far more deadly and far more experienced opponent: the only one in his path to unquestioned #1…. Bisu.


bisu's FAR more experienced than Jaedong? I doubt that
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-02 22:45:25
August 02 2009 22:44 GMT
#73
now all you CJ fans can finally share my pain. But at least your ace lost to motherfucking JAEDONG and not JangBi...

I still cringe thinking about it.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
August 02 2009 23:17 GMT
#74
On August 03 2009 07:39 Exteray wrote:
Show nested quote +
Hotbid wrote:
must face a far more deadly and far more experienced opponent: the only one in his path to unquestioned #1…. Bisu.


bisu's FAR more experienced than Jaedong? I doubt that

first, i didn't write that, atrioc did
second, you misunderstood the quote, go back and re-read it

he's saying jaedong must face a far more experienced opponent (bisu) because bisu is far more experienced than effort (obviously)... so the statement is totally true

no idea how you interpreted it as "bisu is more experienced than jaedong!" -- put down your JD fanboy pitchfork and torch for just a minute
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Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
August 03 2009 00:04 GMT
#75
"Although their builds were almost identical early game, subtle divergences as they both headed towards lair."

Oops! Looks like a little more editing has to be done XD

great article though just pointing that one out
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
August 03 2009 00:24 GMT
#76
Typo fixed. Thanks for the heads up.
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saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
August 03 2009 02:35 GMT
#77
On August 02 2009 18:22 tobi9999 wrote:
Easy win for Oz. BeSt sucks(ESPECIALLY at PvZ), Fantasy is only good TvP


Fucking nonsense. Who the fuck invented that build that fucks me up everytime I offrace Z and VULTURES IN MY MAIN GOD -.-

But Bisu v Jaedong is more likely

Bisu will get stomped by Jaedong(if this happens Oz will win, and it probably will), Canata is overrated, and SKT1 failzergs are a free win.



Again, total bullshit. Bisu vs Jaedong 2009-06-07 @ Heartbreak Ridge.

Gtfo fanboy!

+ Show Spoiler +
GO SKT!
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 03 2009 03:09 GMT
#78

- How do you intend to prepare for the Grand Finals against SKT1?
▲ I will send the players our accordingly after looking through their capabilities and deciding on the finalised build to use. There may be snipes going on, as shown in day 1, so I will work hard to make full use of the players' capabilities.


For all those already near certain that SKT will triumph over Oz, do realize that when a foreign proleague spectator grabs a map to head to Pusan, there will be a giant X on Pusan stating that "here be snipers".

Regardless, I do hope that Bisu will be playing at his highest level. We all know that currently, he isn't.
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 03 2009 03:29 GMT
#79
Oz had the odds stacked against them vs CJ and they prevailed, but SKT has some of the strongest players in progaming, so even if Oz puts up the fight of their lives SKT1's gonna come out on top. IF Oz wins that would be insane.. and maybe the win might wake up the terribad slumping team we call Jaedong Oz.
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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
August 03 2009 06:10 GMT
#80
such intense matches..

i freaked out when i watched iris vs perfectman.. not to mention backho's hilarious cheese.

and of course LJD fucking perfect play in the super ace... such micro omgggg
AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
August 03 2009 06:55 GMT
#81
t1 shall win oz shall fall
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errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
August 03 2009 10:51 GMT
#82
I was happy for the results JUST because of that retard in the audience. You know the one - That one guy that would start cheering incredibly loud whenever cj would look like they are winning a match. Totally obnoxious..
DskXplorr
Profile Joined March 2009
United States44 Posts
August 03 2009 15:52 GMT
#83
Wow, can't wait for the grand final. Sadly, being an Oz fan, I hate to admit that T1 has a really high chance of beating Oz, but the good thing is that I will never lose hope in Jeadong, I have no doubt that he will PWN whoever he faces, hopefully Bisu so it'll be a great match.
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Jawa~
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States291 Posts
August 03 2009 17:18 GMT
#84
OMG I am so hyped!!!

I think it might actually have been BETTER that JD lost to Orion - he seems to be completely invincible when he's pissed :D
Jawa~
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States291 Posts
August 03 2009 17:19 GMT
#85
I don't even know who to root for, my 2 favorite teams made grand finals!!
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
August 04 2009 07:54 GMT
#86
what a cute group photo! :->
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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
August 04 2009 13:21 GMT
#87
I say Oz is more deep than SKT1! Because with the super ace format one round is just one match and Oz only has one Lee Jae Dong.

+
HiyA, Lomo, BackHo, Killer, ggaemmo, and Perfectman all have chances to win!

Due to SKT1 zergs SUCKING REALLY BAD Oz might be able to take this without the super ace.
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bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
August 05 2009 02:31 GMT
#88
Jaedong must have burnt holes in his mouse pad with that muta micro. I was away at a cottage with no internet as this went down the first playoff matches ive missed this year, and it happened to be one of the epiccest >.<
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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
August 06 2009 13:19 GMT
#89
I love this article. Most of all the picutre of Jaedong!
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dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
August 07 2009 17:34 GMT
#90
Well, I'll hold fingers for Oz, but it would be lie to say SKT don't deserve the title with lineup like this.
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HARUKI
Profile Joined August 2009
10 Posts
August 08 2009 01:19 GMT
#91
On August 02 2009 18:30 miseiler wrote:
No one can survive the stare. Not even SKT1.

Maybe bunkie.



Possibly manifesto ?
陽輝
Shadeye
Profile Joined March 2009
Australia75 Posts
September 09 2009 06:04 GMT
#92
good artlice Im gona go see em now they look soo good
Go Hyuk, Luxury and F91
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
September 09 2009 06:35 GMT
#93
w8 wut?
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5588 Posts
September 09 2009 14:56 GMT
#94
On August 02 2009 18:22 tobi9999 wrote:
Easy win for Oz. BeSt sucks(ESPECIALLY at PvZ), Fantasy is only good TvP, Bisu will get stomped by Jaedong(if this happens Oz will win, and it probably will), Canata is overrated, and SKT1 failzergs are a free win.



lol
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
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