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You can't really judge Zero on best/worst matchup data because his data is so messed up in general. Reposting from the PR thread:
Looking at his record, Zero's win/loss ratio against A- and S-tier opponents is functionally identical to his W/L vs. B-tier players. This says to me that Zero's losses are almost entirely attributable to his own mistakes, and that if he can start shaving those down, he is going to absolutely tear shit up.
For reference, some career stats:
Versus Consensus S-Tier (Flash, Jaedong, Fantasy, Bisu 6-4
Versus A+ Opponents (Effort, Leta, Stork, Jangbi, Skyhigh, Hwasin in vZerg, Light, Kal 10-11
Versus Everyone Else 50-50
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Go Zergs!!! I'm so happy there are not so many Tosses!
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
On July 21 2009 13:43 Ideas wrote: ClubDay MSL but with Zerg and Protoss inverted :O
at least ZvZ is better than PvP :D and the only Protoss left is hugely favored to make the finals (unlike Yarnc in ClubDay)
lol are you kidding me? ZvZ is better than PvP lol
ZvZ is all about mutaLing nothing else.... Wait!!! Scourges too
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United States12607 Posts
Thanks for the update HB...love the newspaper-style headlines, great idea.
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Man, I remember when I first saw EffOrt play i was like who the fuck is this kid? Now he's been trucking along quite nicely, i would love to see this kid in the finals, he can go far if he keeps moving along at the pace he's been going lately, no doubt he's been taking lessons from the Maestro.
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Thanks, great writeup but what's with recap of ZerO vs Pure Game 2 @ Carthage 3 ?
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On July 22 2009 02:28 LuisMl8 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2009 13:43 Ideas wrote: ClubDay MSL but with Zerg and Protoss inverted :O
at least ZvZ is better than PvP :D and the only Protoss left is hugely favored to make the finals (unlike Yarnc in ClubDay) lol are you kidding me? ZvZ is better than PvP lol ZvZ is all about mutaLing nothing else.... Wait!!! Scourges too
"PvP is all about dragoons and manner pylons nothing else.... Wait!!! Reavers too "
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Braavos36362 Posts
On July 22 2009 03:31 ReiKo wrote: Thanks, great writeup but what's with recap of ZerO vs Pure Game 2 @ Carthage 3 ? It's missing, will fix it as soon as I get home. I definitely recapped the game, its weird its not there. If you're dying to know what happened, Zero went standard 3 base, held DTs and an attack with nice simcity positioning, and used his muta flock to keep map control and eventually won with a huge army, pretty much what he always does ZvP hehe.
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On July 22 2009 04:14 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2009 03:31 ReiKo wrote: Thanks, great writeup but what's with recap of ZerO vs Pure Game 2 @ Carthage 3 ? It's missing, will fix it as soon as I get home. I definitely recapped the game, its weird its not there. If you're dying to know what happened, Zero went standard 3 base, held DTs and an attack with nice simcity positioning, and used his muta flock to keep map control and eventually won with a huge army, pretty much what he always does ZvP hehe.
Sure, thanks man. I was just wondering why it's not there so I was trying also to be good community member to point it out
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Unfortunately, Zero's ZvZ is his worst matchup by far, What?
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Braavos36362 Posts
On July 22 2009 04:56 Crunchums wrote:What? since June:
Zero ZvZ: 1-7 Zero non-ZvZ: 10-2
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Finland1714 Posts
thanks for the writeup, even though i saw all the games i still like the recaps, i think Zero is gonna own Kwanro still!
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i think i've decided to start liquibetting against jaedong in these tournaments. that way when he loses i'm only very upset and don't cry myself to sleep.
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On July 22 2009 05:04 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2009 04:56 Crunchums wrote:Unfortunately, Zero's ZvZ is his worst matchup by far, What? since June: Zero ZvZ: 1-7 Zero non-ZvZ: 10-2 From May 1st to March 3rd:
Zero ZvZ: 13-5 Zero ZvT: 1-5 Zero ZvP: 3-1
Here is the Power Rank as of 05/15/2009 on Zero:
Have you visited Zero's TLPD page lately? Things are beginning to look a bit crazy in there. Aside from 4-0ing his OSL group with infested Terrans for style, over the past month Zero has unleashed a ferocious beatdown on his fellow Zergs to prove that his Lost Saga MSL practice hours have made him a premier ZvZ player to rival even the Legend Killer. Zero's position over Jaedong may be short-lived, but he's earned it: 12-2 since the last PR (losses to Bisu and Leta), rock-solid ZvZ and ZvP play, and a dash of un-before seen confidence could mean Zero is setting up to have a field day with this Starleague season's Zerg-heavy field. Zero may be inconsistent, but even if ZvZ was his worst matchup it would certainly not be "by far".
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Zero's all mechanics in that MU, he's not no brains. Don't get angry, it's true if you see his ZvZ games.
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On July 21 2009 23:13 selboN wrote: wow Calm > fOrGG, very impressive!
O_o since when is beating forgg impressve.. Calm>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ForGG
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come onnn effort vs jaedong rematch!!
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On July 22 2009 05:04 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2009 04:56 Crunchums wrote:Unfortunately, Zero's ZvZ is his worst matchup by far, What? since June: Zero ZvZ: 1-7 Zero non-ZvZ: 10-2
Even mentioning his known inconsistency calling ZerO's ZvZ his worst "by far" is one hell of a stretch.
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Still pissed at Fantasy vs Bisu. I feel like fantasy decided to let Bisu take the first game. And second game was incredibly unclassy!
Fantasy downright owned Jangbi and Stork, two very strong PvT players.
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