EPT[GOM] July Heat. - Page 4
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duckhunt
Canada311 Posts
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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Hammy
France828 Posts
I love ZvZ actually, that kind of final would be epic, as long as it isn't 100% onesided. | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
There's like a 90% chance that even if he beats flash he'll have to face a Zerg who is vastly superior to him in ZvZ, most likely resulting in a one-sided 3:0 finals. | ||
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
On July 12 2009 01:38 7mk wrote: People rooting for July should realise that he's not gonna be able to win the title anyways There's like a 90% chance that even if he beats flash he'll have to face a Zerg who is vastly superior to him in ZvZ, most likely resulting in a one-sided 3:0 finals. This! July can't ZvZ at all. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On July 12 2009 01:38 7mk wrote: People rooting for July should realise that he's not gonna be able to win the title anyways There's like a 90% chance that even if he beats flash he'll have to face a Zerg who is vastly superior to him in ZvZ, most likely resulting in a one-sided 3:0 finals. July has only lost 2 Best of 5s in his entire career, and both were to the current bonjwa. Flash isn't even close to being bonjwa, he doesn't even deserve to be called S class right now. I hope that Flash loses because it would be a sad runover if Flash advanced to play against Jaedong. July is an incredibly smart series player, in a bo5 its pretty ignorant to just declare that he will be rolled even though he is playing someone who is at the same level as himself. I don't know if you have been paying attention, but July's ZvT is quite good lately. Also Flash is losing a to a lot of zergs recently, including Calm(lololol) and Kwanro, and also Yarnc and Jaedong. July has been doing just as good in ZvT as all four of those players who beat Flash On July 11 2009 23:29 3 Lions wrote: July vs Iris finals please +1!!!! | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On July 12 2009 01:50 Fontong wrote: July has only lost 2 Best of 5s in his entire career, and both were to the current bonjwa. Flash isn't even close to being bonjwa, he doesn't even deserve to be called S class right now. I hope that Flash loses because it would be a sad runover if Flash advanced to play against Jaedong. July is an incredibly smart series player, in a bo5 its pretty ignorant to just declare that he will be rolled even though he is playing someone who is at the same level as himself. I don't know if you have been paying attention, but July's ZvT is quite good lately. Also Flash is losing a to a lot of zergs recently, including Calm(lololol) and Kwanro, and also Yarnc and Jaedong. July has been doing just as good in ZvT as all four of those players who beat Flash +1!!!! Um, they weren't talking about Flash. They were talking about his ZvZ, which is atrocious. I mean the post started off with "If he beats Flash" so no one even said Flash is going to roll him. edit: also he lost to Nada in the 2004-2005 osl finals. I'm pretty sure Nada wasn't bonjwa in 2005. :> (hint it was Oov) | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
However, July is such a legend. It's always great to see those guys do well in the modern context. | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On July 12 2009 04:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I would really like to see FlaSh or July win this tournament. FlaSh is too good of a player to only have two titles to his name, an OSL and a GOM. However, July is such a legend. It's always great to see those guys do well in the modern context. Dude where have you been for months? | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
What do you mean? | ||
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Ideas
United States8161 Posts
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + This is fricken upsetting. Now we cant see an epic zvt between jaedong and flash in the finals damn it. I respected effort but not anymore, even though my argument just now doesnt make sense. He shoulda lost lol. | ||
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Origami
United States266 Posts
On July 12 2009 19:44 Ahzz wrote: effort vs jaedong (for those who seen it) shows the reason why I do not play zvz. + Show Spoiler + This is fricken upsetting. Now we cant see an epic zvt between jaedong and flash in the finals damn it. I respected effort but not anymore, even though my argument just now doesnt make sense. He shoulda lost lol. + Show Spoiler + If you take Flash's recent losses in TvZ as a mark of weakness in the matchup, then an Effort vs Flash final would be several times better than Jaedong vs Flash. Remember GSL1? Jaedong > Flash where only one game got past mutalisk harassment and that game was basically over anyway by that point. At least Effort loves taking things to complicated endgames. | ||
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Ahzz
Finland780 Posts
On July 12 2009 21:22 Origami wrote: + Show Spoiler + If you take Flash's recent losses in TvZ as a mark of weakness in the matchup, then an Effort vs Flash final would be several times better than Jaedong vs Flash. Remember GSL1? Jaedong > Flash where only one game got past mutalisk harassment and that game was basically over anyway by that point. At least Effort loves taking things to complicated endgames. but its not even half as exciting. its not awesome because of how the games go, its awesome because the two are absolutely the best. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On July 12 2009 02:14 TwoToneTerran wrote: edit: also he lost to Nada in the 2004-2005 osl finals. I'm pretty sure Nada wasn't bonjwa in 2005. :> (hint it was Oov) At that point in time, I don't think there was a bonjwa. That season (IOPS, YATGK, KT-KTF) was dominated by Nada/July/Gorush. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On July 12 2009 01:50 Fontong wrote: July has only lost 2 Best of 5s in his entire career, and both were to the current bonjwa. Flash isn't even close to being bonjwa, he doesn't even deserve to be called S class right now. I hope that Flash loses because it would be a sad runover if Flash advanced to play against Jaedong. July is an incredibly smart series player, in a bo5 its pretty ignorant to just declare that he will be rolled even though he is playing someone who is at the same level as himself. I don't know if you have been paying attention, but July's ZvT is quite good lately. Also Flash is losing a to a lot of zergs recently, including Calm(lololol) and Kwanro, and also Yarnc and Jaedong. July has been doing just as good in ZvT as all four of those players who beat Flash +1!!!! Flash...not... S-Class? | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On July 13 2009 06:50 TwoToneTerran wrote: It was inbetween Oov's titles, wasn't it? I'm pretty sure 2005 was fairly within Oov's era. It's hard to find a time when Nada and July aren't doing well. It was after his msl streak and between his OSLs. If you look at the time period between when the first of those three leagues began and the last ended, oov won a mediocre 55% of his games. GoRush and nada both won approximately 67% of their games and the vast majority of these were in the individual leagues. | ||
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Ahtiven
Malaysia159 Posts
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