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Untitled Podcast: Episode One

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June 8th, 2009 20:44 GMT
Untitled Podcast: Episode One

With the number of updates to TL, things happening in the community and to Starcraft in general, we decided it was time for another podcast. This week we wanted to keep it pretty relaxed and talk about the things we like (drama) and dislike about the community.

This week we talk about

  • - Drama. Why is the community taking steps back?
  • - Copypasta Starleagues
  • - Idrama vs Daniel Lee
  • - Blizzcon and Beta Key contests
  • - More drama
  • - Who is King Ansadi? What is he really doing here?
  • - Lots more

If you guys have feedback, criticism/suggestions etc we would like to hear it here. The audio this week is a little off (Chill louder than i am) but big thanks to BloodyCobbler for recording for us.

You can download this week's episode here
Hint: Right click and save target as to avoid browser explosion!

- love Kennigit
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T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
June 08 2009 20:48 GMT
#2
I love TL podcasts. Hope you guys release them regularly.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
June 08 2009 20:48 GMT
#3
omg yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 08 2009 20:49 GMT
#4
whoa that downloaded fast. nice hosting.
epicdoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States489 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 20:53:55
June 08 2009 20:51 GMT
#5
feels like a little too much 'noise removal', hard to listen to in the beginning but eased out a bit, feel like you're talking through a tube as a result.

good listen
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 08 2009 20:53 GMT
#6
man, so fast
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 08 2009 20:55 GMT
#7
If you are expecting anything other than babbling, I'm sorry in advance
Moderator
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 08 2009 20:55 GMT
#8
Yes we spend about 40 minutes talking about why TL is awesome and everyone else sucks. I am not sorry in advance for that.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
June 08 2009 20:57 GMT
#9
These sound like interesting topics.
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YuMMie
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Sweden46 Posts
June 08 2009 20:58 GMT
#10
whats up with the horrible quality?
nom nom nom
aers *
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United States1210 Posts
June 08 2009 20:58 GMT
#11
Better be good drama.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
June 08 2009 20:59 GMT
#12
lol
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 21:03:04
June 08 2009 21:00 GMT
#13
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 08 2009 21:08 GMT
#14
Chill sux.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
June 08 2009 21:11 GMT
#15
On June 09 2009 05:55 Chill wrote:
If you are expecting anything other than babbling, I'm sorry in advance


that is all we expect. wohoo.

P.S. i am easy to impress
I am not good with quotes
cujo2k
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada1044 Posts
June 08 2009 21:17 GMT
#16
quality is much worse than the previous podcasts which were totally awesome but glad to see this making a return anyway.
THE ANSWER IS 288
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 08 2009 21:21 GMT
#17
Quality was totally my bad

I haven't used the program we used before, so I didn't swap the recording device to the best fit and used the default(its fixed now though )

So I apologize for the sound quality, but the cast is still enjoyable none the less.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
June 08 2009 21:29 GMT
#18
Yes!!!! ITS BACK
^______________^
StalkerSC
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada378 Posts
June 08 2009 21:31 GMT
#19
Can someone PM me with how to save it? There is no save as far as I can tell.
IIf your good at Starcraft, Your good at life. - Artosis
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
June 08 2009 21:33 GMT
#20
Kennigit coined 'idrama' and 'copypasta starleagues'?
nice nice
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
June 08 2009 21:36 GMT
#21
Holy fucking shit (sorry for language).

I fucking DIED when you went on the Ansadi modulo rant.
Writer
StalkerSC
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada378 Posts
June 08 2009 21:40 GMT
#22
Sweet someone should put this on youtube...

If anyone wants, I can make a video with that MP3 playing in the background with the words "TEAM LIQUID" on some picture while its playing or something.
IIf your good at Starcraft, Your good at life. - Artosis
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
June 08 2009 21:44 GMT
#23
64 mgs? Wow.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
June 08 2009 21:55 GMT
#24
YES!
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
June 08 2009 22:08 GMT
#25
i loled at the Klazart stuff
I am not good with quotes
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
June 08 2009 22:10 GMT
#26
hahahahahaha

the ending in the winner.

I know you guys said you weren't going to being doing it right now but I 100% like liquibition the most out of all of the teamliquid events. I think you guys always end up with a well polished/streamed/commented product that is enjoyable. After that I would like pro tl attack with TL having some sort of ranking which allows for some of the more notable teamliquid gamers to be put up against pro gamers, not just someone with a clever name. Field ret,idra,oystein,infernal,day[9], artosis, chosen, lzgamer, machine,shauni and any other of our higher ranked players would be more fitting for a pro tlattack rather then a non-korean one.

I love the insider scoopes on some of the intersite relations. They are fucking halarious.

You both are pretty fucking halarious.
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 22:14:17
June 08 2009 22:11 GMT
#27
AHAHAHA what the fuck Zatic

As far as Teamliquid's future endeavors - we've recently seen an insurgence of users coming out of the woodwork and translating going-ons in the Korean scene - interviews etc. It'd be cool if this could be an official Teamliquid project, to bridge the Korean and foreigner scene a little before Starcraft 2 comes out and sort of forces it together before it's ready. We have a number of users in Korea that are already involved in the Korean e-Sports scene, but they do it as a personal job separate from Teamliquid. It would be cool, although a bit lofty of an idea, if Teamliquid could get some sort of officiality in Korea besides the "oh yeah i've heard about it it's a pretty cool site imo." I know there was the whole spiel about money in e-Sports, but I feel that that's a stigma that has to do with the fact that, although we're on some level obsessed with e-Sports, we still possess the idea that it won't flourish in the foreign scene like it has in Korea.
Writer
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 08 2009 22:18 GMT
#28
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
June 08 2009 22:21 GMT
#29
Did you record this inside of a garbage can
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
June 08 2009 22:22 GMT
#30
YESSSS

podcast has returned!

we love u all!

-love r3condite
ggyo...
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
June 08 2009 22:25 GMT
#31
On June 09 2009 07:18 boesthius wrote:
okay so the ending made the whole fucking podcast, hahahaa. the last part at like 69:47 or around there: "so..uhm..ya..haha HAHA oh gosh" is soooooooo fucking golden hahahah.

damn this was realllly awesome, i enjoyed listening to this for sure. i kind of agree with AZ up there that a pro tl attack would be super awesome; except this time against top foreigners as he suggested because as awesome as having sea on tl.attack was - the games were pretty lackluster. i can imagine it would be fairly difficult to agree on a time because of the ridiculous time zones. iirc that tl.attack with sea was pretty early in the morning compared to normal tl.attack and it was really late in s.korea. nonetheless just an idea; good podcast and i cannnooot wait until the next one for sure!~

My favorite part is "one, two... *incoherant rambling* TEN! ten shots!"
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
June 08 2009 22:26 GMT
#32
omg zatic is priceless
I am not good with quotes
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
June 08 2009 22:39 GMT
#33
ahahha zatic
Administrator
KillForce
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden36 Posts
June 08 2009 22:52 GMT
#34
I like the video casts. Both TL:A and liquibition have been really fun to watch. I think goofing around with foreigners in general is very entertaining.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
June 08 2009 23:01 GMT
#35
Two words: Le git. Thanks guys!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 08 2009 23:04 GMT
#36
Downloading now, I hope you guys make more in the future
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
zeox
Profile Joined November 2007
Norway314 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-08 23:09:15
June 08 2009 23:06 GMT
#37
great show guys.
I'm wondering what you're recording this with? Skype + Pamela Recorder is golden for podcasts like this

edit: for gods sake, next time use Skype and Pamela Recorder. the increase in quality will be immense. PR is $20, but it's WELL worth the price
themineralpatch.com -- twitter.com/inged
AeTheReal
Profile Joined June 2009
United States108 Posts
June 08 2009 23:06 GMT
#38
Anyone care to transcribe that voice message for those of us that aren't so literate in drunk speak? I could barely make out any words let alone meaning.

Great Podcast BTW!
AlTheCake
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1071 Posts
June 08 2009 23:06 GMT
#39
OMFG I LOVE GOSSIP AND DRAMA.

:DDDDD
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 08 2009 23:09 GMT
#40
I am downloading to continue my support for the term Idrama and my hope for its place in the permanent TL lexicon
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
June 08 2009 23:21 GMT
#41
alot of lawls :D
what quote?
zeox
Profile Joined November 2007
Norway314 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 10:50:01
June 08 2009 23:23 GMT
#42
*poff*
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
June 08 2009 23:29 GMT
#43
by the way thanks for the vote of confidence <3 hehe
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
June 08 2009 23:39 GMT
#44
both liquibition and tl attack are good. but TL attack is wayyyyyyyy more enjoyable imo.

wraiths go pew pew
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
June 08 2009 23:51 GMT
#45
nice work
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
June 08 2009 23:57 GMT
#46
Listening right now, but the quality is SOOOOOOO bad. lol.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
June 08 2009 23:59 GMT
#47
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
June 09 2009 00:03 GMT
#48
Good lord, that was the longest bitch session I've ever listened to.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 09 2009 00:03 GMT
#49
On June 09 2009 08:57 Vasoline73 wrote:
Listening right now, but the quality is SOOOOOOO bad. lol.

We were laughing about it today cause we went on a 1 hour tirad about people releasing subpar content in our subpar audio podcast hahahahah.
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
June 09 2009 00:06 GMT
#50
64.2MB? Impressive.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 09 2009 00:06 GMT
#51
I want Korean Pro-gamer TL Attack
blabberrrrr
AlTheCake
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1071 Posts
June 09 2009 00:20 GMT
#52
ahahahahaha zatic

I fucking lol'd
SkatesSC
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States191 Posts
June 09 2009 00:24 GMT
#53
would personally like to see more TL Attack, both Pro and Foreigner.
HerO fighting!!!
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
June 09 2009 00:24 GMT
#54
This is awesome! The zatic call is legendary.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
June 09 2009 00:43 GMT
#55
I'm looking forward to listening...sorry I couldn't help with the recording Kennigit!
✌
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
June 09 2009 00:49 GMT
#56
More cake beta keys?!?!+ Show Spoiler +
or at least split them up
Stuslegend
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada168 Posts
June 09 2009 00:55 GMT
#57
omg.......... when chill was talking about the klazart drama

i was just fukin dying of laughter omg, aahhh good times with those book people
stork can have my kids in his mouth any time... no homo O_O'
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
June 09 2009 01:27 GMT
#58
Cool stuff but it sounds like you're on a scifi spaceship or something.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
June 09 2009 01:33 GMT
#59
lol "every cake is made by someone... and his asian girlfriend..."

Rofl "its not like we were some superheros who flew out of the sky, and were like 'yeahhhh we're gonna fuck this community upppp!'"

omfgggg at the BaeZZi power play! haha. Taking over teamliquid... -_-

ROFL. "Hey we're gonna do the new front page guys!"
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
June 09 2009 01:41 GMT
#60
FUCKING AMAZING.

First, we get liquipedia.
Now we get a podcast. MAN I FUCKING LOVE YOU GUYS.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
SOB_Maj_Brian
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States522 Posts
June 09 2009 01:52 GMT
#61
The end of the cast is hilarious.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
June 09 2009 01:57 GMT
#62
sexy
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
June 09 2009 02:07 GMT
#63
Awesome, thanks guys.

One thing to note though. It's not a big deal but 128kbps is kinda high for voice only... usually you can do <= 64 without much loss of quality and it's tolerable much lower than that.
Disintegrate
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
June 09 2009 02:19 GMT
#64
i came to this.
sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
June 09 2009 02:42 GMT
#65
i've never heard a podcast by you guys yet, and you all sounds so chill (pun intended). nice.
Deleted User 39582
Profile Joined August 2008
317 Posts
June 09 2009 03:06 GMT
#66
On June 09 2009 08:23 zeox wrote:
regarding the meet up topic: I was one of those guys that attended WWI last year and really wanted to go to the meet up, but didn't. why? because i don't feel "entitled" in a way. Even though I've visited the site for about 6 years I don't feel I'm part of the TL community. hopefully that'll change with the release of SC2, since I plan to get way more involved


+ Show Spoiler +
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
June 09 2009 03:17 GMT
#67
ESPORTS
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
June 09 2009 03:21 GMT
#68
On June 09 2009 08:23 zeox wrote:
regarding the meet up topic: I was one of those guys that attended WWI last year and really wanted to go to the meet up, but didn't. why? because i don't feel "entitled" in a way. Even though I've visited the site for about 6 years I don't feel I'm part of the TL community. hopefully that'll change with the release of SC2, since I plan to get way more involved



So basicly you don't feel connected to the other nerds? You completely fucked yourself out of a good time. Good job dude.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
June 09 2009 03:37 GMT
#69
lol this podcast is teaching me about adjustment depending on different people because Kennigit is so quiet and Chill is loud.
But good job, I really enjoy this podcast
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
June 09 2009 04:53 GMT
#70
On the topic of what would I like to see more of, personally I think some strategy FPVODs would go well with the new strategy wiki but then again I always want more of those
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
June 09 2009 05:01 GMT
#71
Yeah the strategic FPVODS on Nevake is out of this world. Especially the Artosis episode. That and TL:A is always so enjoyable to watch.
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
June 09 2009 05:27 GMT
#72
for one, we would like more pod casts.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
June 09 2009 05:45 GMT
#73
Cheers.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
June 09 2009 05:51 GMT
#74
great cast fellas. really made me go back and re-appreciate the TSL. I didnt realize there was $10k in prize money!? baller indeed.
CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
June 09 2009 05:53 GMT
#75
I liked it hopefully you guys can do another one sometime.
Lipton
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 06:25:23
June 09 2009 06:24 GMT
#76
Not a bad podcast, some sound volume issues, and I don't get all the eSports hate :p (especially from TL) but will def check out more of these...
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ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
June 09 2009 06:31 GMT
#77
listening now :D
the courage to be a lazy bum
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
June 09 2009 06:33 GMT
#78
I loved it! Great shit!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10705 Posts
June 09 2009 06:50 GMT
#79
Nice one.


I loved TL-Attack with Foreigners more than anything else.
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 07:27:03
June 09 2009 07:26 GMT
#80
On June 09 2009 15:50 Velr wrote:
Nice one.


I loved TL-Attack with Foreigners more than anything else.

Yea, totally. TL:A is the shit!
Thanks guys, great podcast
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 07:51:22
June 09 2009 07:41 GMT
#81
"I want to know if you guys want more bla bla bla, LIQUIBITION, or bla bla bla"

LIQUIBITION!

edit: and an idea for next cast. IMPROVE SOUND QUALITY!!!!
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
June 09 2009 07:43 GMT
#82
Ahh god that was great lmao.

Out of curiosity why did you guys put a hold on Liquibition? Is it just a pain in the ass to organize? Anyway I'd like to see TL attack with Nazgul. Thats right bring the man in the pointy hat back baby!!
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 09 2009 07:50 GMT
#83
On June 09 2009 16:43 InToTheWannaB wrote:
Out of curiosity why did you guys put a hold on Liquibition? Is it just a pain in the ass to organize? Anyway I'd like to see TL attack with Nazgul. Thats right bring the man in the pointy hat back baby!!
Oh bringing back old school people to TL-attacks would be awesome. Imagine if they manage to bring Grrrr or Elky to a TL-Attack. That would crash mogulus' bandwidth! lol
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
June 09 2009 08:01 GMT
#84
Turned off halfways, couldnt take more "tl rocks" everyone else sucks attitude, just too much egosentric crap to handle.

I agree that most of the latest contents should be thought through better, but just sitting there throwing shit around, namecalling etc just strikes me as petty and lame. Why not use some of your experience to help other "new" tournements succeed, instead of just bashing on them.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
June 09 2009 08:01 GMT
#85
This was great, thank you guys. Looking forward to the next one!
the courage to be a lazy bum
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
June 09 2009 08:03 GMT
#86
i listened to the first 5 minutes but there is a very unpleasent squealing sound in the backround, gave me a headache so i switched it off. Shame since the other ones were god like.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3325 Posts
June 09 2009 08:10 GMT
#87
On June 09 2009 17:01 Chanted wrote:
Turned off halfways, couldnt take more "tl rocks" everyone else sucks attitude, just too much egosentric crap to handle.

I agree that most of the latest contents should be thought through better, but just sitting there throwing shit around, namecalling etc just strikes me as petty and lame. Why not use some of your experience to help other "new" tournements succeed, instead of just bashing on them.

The problem is that Teamliquid.net is the best and has the best orgaznation for tournaments/projects/everything. We should be proud of TL.net and what it stands for. I don't think there is anything wrong that the peopel behind this site have a bit of a ego or be proud. There is nothing to be ashamed at here.

Look at everything TL.net has...

- Best Progaming coverage
- TLPD
- Liqubet
- TSL
- TL:Attact
- Liqubition
- Final Edits
- Fantasy League
- Latest VODS on VOD Tracker
- Amazing Strategy forum
- Wikipedia

Is it wrong to be proud of what Teamliquid.net has accomplished and that they are without a doubt the best non-korean Starcraft site?
김택용 Fighting!
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
June 09 2009 08:36 GMT
#88
Teamliquid is clearly the best community site out there, and they do have really good organization, and I agree that they should be proud, but I felt that that podcast was a bit over the top elitist. Its not that they promote themselves that annoys me, its the fact that they bash on everyone else. TL is a really big community site, and their opinions might influence alot of players/spectators etc, and when they hear here, that everything else that goes on in the community sucks ass, then its quite hurtful to the community, because besides from valor, what has been going on lately, is infact the sc2gg starleague, GOL-invitational and ASL.

Wow, they dont have as much prizes as us, lets make fun of them !
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3325 Posts
June 09 2009 08:43 GMT
#89
Its not that they don't have as much prizes as TSL or something like that but its the fact that SC2GG Starleague/ASL and its clones were all run badly. They were plagued with bad casting/late vods/lack of coverage and many other things that shouldn't happen in a planned and organized tournament. There was so many walkover and no-shows (and I don't remember that happening at all in TSL) and that showed the players didn't really care that much either...
김택용 Fighting!
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
June 09 2009 08:48 GMT
#90
On June 09 2009 17:43 Yaqoob wrote:
Its not that they don't have as much prizes as TSL or something like that but its the fact that SC2GG Starleague/ASL and its clones were all run badly. They were plagued with bad casting/late vods/lack of coverage and many other things that shouldn't happen in a planned and organized tournament. There was so many walkover and no-shows (and I don't remember that happening at all in TSL) and that showed the players didn't really care that much either...


Agreed, I was looking forward to all of the tourneys and even though I never had any expectations of getting the same level of coverage as TSL, I still was very much dissapointed with most of them. Even though I tried to follow them, I simply was unable to find recent results, replays or anything else until the finals. Also some of them streched out for so long I totally lost interest.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
June 09 2009 09:10 GMT
#91
It's not like Kenningit and Chill flat out said "TL is the best site ever and everyone else sucks". They just gave their thoughts and criticism on how poorly all the other tournaments were run. Even if its a voluntary thing to begin with, there is still a standard as to how things should be done. All they did was point out where things went wrong and things to think about next time they do something like this.

TL is a great site/community because everything it does sets or meets the high standard, nothing gets half-assed like the stuff they pointed out in the podcast.
the courage to be a lazy bum
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
June 09 2009 09:13 GMT
#92
On June 09 2009 09:03 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 08:57 Vasoline73 wrote:
Listening right now, but the quality is SOOOOOOO bad. lol.

We were laughing about it today cause we went on a 1 hour tirad about people releasing subpar content in our subpar audio podcast hahahahah.

This just shows what happens when whippersnappers get cocky and try and bypass the 3 month delay of MiR.
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buscettn
Profile Joined April 2009
Austria129 Posts
June 09 2009 09:15 GMT
#93
nice, so i can take TL with me on my way to work... kind of brightens my whole start into the day
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 09 2009 09:24 GMT
#94
On June 09 2009 17:01 Chanted wrote:
Turned off halfways, couldnt take more "tl rocks" everyone else sucks attitude, just too much egosentric crap to handle.

I agree that most of the latest contents should be thought through better, but just sitting there throwing shit around, namecalling etc just strikes me as petty and lame. Why not use some of your experience to help other "new" tournements succeed, instead of just bashing on them.
If you had actually listened to the whole thing you would have noticed the offer to help towards the end
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
June 09 2009 09:38 GMT
#95
I feel kind of obligated to clarify that no one at sc2gg is trying to make money anymore. That was the original idea, but that time has passed.
:3
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 09 2009 10:16 GMT
#96
On June 09 2009 07:10 AttackZerg wrote:
hahahahahaha

the ending in the winner.

I know you guys said you weren't going to being doing it right now but I 100% like liquibition the most out of all of the teamliquid events. I think you guys always end up with a well polished/streamed/commented product that is enjoyable. After that I would like pro tl attack with TL having some sort of ranking which allows for some of the more notable teamliquid gamers to be put up against pro gamers, not just someone with a clever name. Field ret,idra,oystein,infernal,day[9], artosis, chosen, lzgamer, machine,shauni and any other of our higher ranked players would be more fitting for a pro tlattack rather then a non-korean one.

I love the insider scoopes on some of the intersite relations. They are fucking halarious.

You both are pretty fucking halarious.


I agree about TL Attack that would be great.
On the one hand its theoretically so cool to have a korean progamer do it, on the other hand its so boring when the games are ridiculously one-sided so having top-foreigners play against them would be amazing. Maybe even with some kickass team melee team to really challenge the pro gamer.

Surely this would be hard to arrange though.
beep boop
[Q9]HU
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vietnam21 Posts
June 09 2009 10:26 GMT
#97
Nice. Thank you. Really appreciated.
Stupid people are smart !
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 09 2009 10:28 GMT
#98
Omg it's back! Huray \o/
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
June 09 2009 10:40 GMT
#99
nice
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Bockit
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sydney2287 Posts
June 09 2009 10:44 GMT
#100
On June 09 2009 17:36 Chanted wrote:
Wow, they dont have as much prizes as us, lets make fun of them !


The prize money wasn't the focus really. I don't know at what point you stopped listening but the essence of what they were saying was that people should spend a bit more time planning these things. Rules, brackets, maps, testing broadcasts, testing connections, who is handling making sure players rock up on time, having your best casters cast etc. etc.
Their are four errors in this sentance.
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States528 Posts
June 09 2009 11:05 GMT
#101
The biggest new in this podcast to me was the possibility of Blizzard moving into "ESPORTS". Sure, the people who already have a stake in this might not like what Blizzard could do. But nothing is stopping Blizzard from reserving all the rights to their own game. It's hard to imagine what the future is like, or whether this could be profitable outside Korea, but if it does, you can be sure Blizzard will make a move.
Splunge
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany925 Posts
June 09 2009 11:08 GMT
#102
didnt understand most of it but haha that call was hilarious!
I would like to see another TL Attack.. that was always really fun to watch. Ret would be cool
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 09 2009 11:24 GMT
#103
On June 09 2009 17:43 Yaqoob wrote:
Its not that they don't have as much prizes as TSL or something like that but its the fact that SC2GG Starleague/ASL and its clones were all run badly. They were plagued with bad casting/late vods/lack of coverage and many other things that shouldn't happen in a planned and organized tournament. There was so many walkover and no-shows (and I don't remember that happening at all in TSL) and that showed the players didn't really care that much either...

Actually we had one W/O in the whole tournament it was Dreiven when he was at the BBQ lol
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
June 09 2009 11:25 GMT
#104
YAY i loved these podcasts and then they just left
T_T :D
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
June 09 2009 11:43 GMT
#105
TL Attack is imho the best out of the events, because it is the funniest/most entertaining. And I would prefer 1 beta key per person I guess.
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
June 09 2009 11:53 GMT
#106
On June 09 2009 20:24 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 17:43 Yaqoob wrote:
Its not that they don't have as much prizes as TSL or something like that but its the fact that SC2GG Starleague/ASL and its clones were all run badly. They were plagued with bad casting/late vods/lack of coverage and many other things that shouldn't happen in a planned and organized tournament. There was so many walkover and no-shows (and I don't remember that happening at all in TSL) and that showed the players didn't really care that much either...

Actually we had one W/O in the whole tournament it was Dreiven when he was at the BBQ lol



And the one walkover spawned an awesome nickname. TL = too cool baby.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
June 09 2009 12:26 GMT
#107
I really liked the TeamLiquid Attack with pros, Didn't Sea[shield] say he wouldn't mind doing it again?
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
June 09 2009 13:34 GMT
#108
Podcast, Yes!

Dling right now
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
June 09 2009 13:37 GMT
#109
Awesome cast guys. I love the podcast and I would love to see more of it. This and Artosis weekly show are pure win. I would love to see TL attack more than liquibition personally, its more fun and community based fun with a lax atmosphere. Thanks for the work guys
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
June 09 2009 13:38 GMT
#110
Podcast, Yes!

Dling right now
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 09 2009 13:41 GMT
#111
On June 09 2009 20:24 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 17:43 Yaqoob wrote:
Its not that they don't have as much prizes as TSL or something like that but its the fact that SC2GG Starleague/ASL and its clones were all run badly. They were plagued with bad casting/late vods/lack of coverage and many other things that shouldn't happen in a planned and organized tournament. There was so many walkover and no-shows (and I don't remember that happening at all in TSL) and that showed the players didn't really care that much either...

Actually we had one W/O in the whole tournament it was Dreiven when he was at the BBQ lol

Actually afaik we called Dreiven in Poland and he was sitting beside his BBQ with his family getting drunk. He then said "oh lol sorry i was getting drunk at bbq brb", came online and won his games. That's where he got his nick name BBQ Toss. Maybe im forgetting something about that though.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 09 2009 13:55 GMT
#112
Kennigit, I called Dreiven
NZ to Poland is not a cheap phonecall!
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 14:09:41
June 09 2009 14:08 GMT
#113
Damn you! I have to learn for my exams, dont post awesome stuff like this!!!!
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
HooHa!
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States688 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 15:05:18
June 09 2009 14:16 GMT
#114
Drama? There has been drama? Wow, my senses must be so narrow and dulled its ridiculous. I guess the only drama I would WANT is more CHILL LIVESTREAMS! My goodness, that's my favorite one.

THE RAINBOW MACHINE! hahaha
Hoo Ra!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 15:01:48
June 09 2009 14:56 GMT
#115
On June 09 2009 17:01 Chanted wrote:
Turned off halfways, couldnt take more "tl rocks" everyone else sucks attitude, just too much egosentric crap to handle.

I agree that most of the latest contents should be thought through better, but just sitting there throwing shit around, namecalling etc just strikes me as petty and lame. Why not use some of your experience to help other "new" tournements succeed, instead of just bashing on them.

If you read the SC2GG Starleague thread, I helped all I could, and I think they took a lot of the advice even though the coverage and stuff flamed out towards the end.

But they did not even shoot me a single PM asking for any help before they went ahead and launched a project with very poor planning. A lot of the issues they had could have been fixed if they spent 10 minutes talking to me or Kennigit. It is not our job to ask others "hey are you running a starleague today, do you mind me looking over the newspost?" It's their responsibility to go seek advice, and foolish of them (they as in anyone who runs a poor tournament) to not spend just 10 minutes talking to people who have experience in it.

That said, not everyone can be successful running their first tournament. I think GOL, SC2GG, and even ASL will improve greatly if they ever run a second one.
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Kenny
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States678 Posts
June 09 2009 15:08 GMT
#116
I know that we learned a lot at GoL and definitely it will help a lot moving forward into future events.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15328 Posts
June 09 2009 15:42 GMT
#117
Don't take all the bashing too seriously these dicks just needed a 1 hour excuse to post that voice mail message to the world.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 09 2009 16:25 GMT
#118
On June 09 2009 22:41 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 20:24 Plexa wrote:
On June 09 2009 17:43 Yaqoob wrote:
Its not that they don't have as much prizes as TSL or something like that but its the fact that SC2GG Starleague/ASL and its clones were all run badly. They were plagued with bad casting/late vods/lack of coverage and many other things that shouldn't happen in a planned and organized tournament. There was so many walkover and no-shows (and I don't remember that happening at all in TSL) and that showed the players didn't really care that much either...

Actually we had one W/O in the whole tournament it was Dreiven when he was at the BBQ lol

Actually afaik we called Dreiven in Poland and he was sitting beside his BBQ with his family getting drunk. He then said "oh lol sorry i was getting drunk at bbq brb", came online and won his games. That's where he got his nick name BBQ Toss. Maybe im forgetting something about that though.

It was during Ro32, which was dual tournament style (mini-double elim between 4 players with 2 advancing). Dreiven missed his opening Bo3, but proceeded to advance as 2nd from his group anyway, the results of that group were:
Squall 2-1 Advokate
Kr 2-0 (W.O) Dreiven
Winners: Squall 0-2 Kr --> Kr advances to TSL
Losers: Advo 1-2 Dreiven
Winner/Loser: Squall 0-2 Dreiven --> Dreiven advances to TSL

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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
June 09 2009 16:29 GMT
#119
"Mum it's finally happeniiiiiing!"

<3
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Radivel-X17
Profile Joined January 2006
Canada144 Posts
June 09 2009 16:33 GMT
#120
The SC2GG Tournament was run poorly.
It started so well. It was the first try, and you learn some things from that.
Having a $10000 prize also helps prevent no-shows. Being part of something people care about also helps. The TL-centric attitude of things helps TL and creates a, "Well, it's not TL, whatever!" sort of response. It doesn't help the other places.

We'll try again, that's for sure. Things will be run better the next time. Hot_Bid doesn't lie, btw. It'd be nice if everyone stopped being a douche to each other. Maybe that's what the future will hold.

BTW, the Wikipedia thing is pretty cool. Good job.

I used to run SC2GG, if you remember that. Come to NHFFA discord. It's where a bunch of old players who all suck at BW hang out, as well as people who like to play FFAs for some reason. https://discord.com/invite/kWNQvnd
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
June 09 2009 18:59 GMT
#121
On June 10 2009 01:33 Radivel-X17 wrote:
The SC2GG Tournament was run poorly.
It started so well. It was the first try, and you learn some things from that.
Having a $10000 prize also helps prevent no-shows. Being part of something people care about also helps. The TL-centric attitude of things helps TL and creates a, "Well, it's not TL, whatever!" sort of response. It doesn't help the other places.

We'll try again, that's for sure. Things will be run better the next time. Hot_Bid doesn't lie, btw. It'd be nice if everyone stopped being a douche to each other. Maybe that's what the future will hold.

BTW, the Wikipedia thing is pretty cool. Good job.

Agreed. There have been other instances in the past where some users have done typical BM things to insult SC2GG, just so you know. More than once, even.

Perhaps they were just fed up with TL, considering the amount of effort we put into banning them, and the attitude they take towards things.

But now, TL loves SC2GG, all TL people love SC2GG, always forever!

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vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
June 09 2009 20:11 GMT
#122
On June 10 2009 03:59 Hot_Bid wrote:
But now, TL loves SC2GG, all TL people love SC2GG, always forever!



lol.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
June 09 2009 20:36 GMT
#123
LOL hotbid oh my god loooooool
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
June 09 2009 22:19 GMT
#124
WOO, shoutout.

And my moment of glory has faded.
QuickSandSlowly
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
China95 Posts
June 09 2009 22:48 GMT
#125
Where can I view the game between superdanielman and Idra mentioned in the podcast?
jijibulei ggplay
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
June 10 2009 05:33 GMT
#126
Great cast, pretty entertaining and funny. Sound quality was pretty bad, but that can be easily fixed with the next one.

As for what I want to see most return, there is no doubt in my mind: Liquibition.

On June 10 2009 07:48 QuickSandSlowly wrote:
Where can I view the game between superdanielman and Idra mentioned in the podcast?


http://www.gomtv.net/valor/vod/
imperfek
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia160 Posts
June 10 2009 08:43 GMT
#127
ffs cant stop laughing at chill's talk about the klazart drama
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 10 2009 13:34 GMT
#128
Haha this podcast was awesome. :p Just like the previous ones, I really missed them when they were suddenly gone. :'(
觀過斯知仁矣.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 10 2009 15:55 GMT
#129
On June 10 2009 00:42 zatic wrote:
Don't take all the bashing too seriously these dicks just needed a 1 hour excuse to post that voice mail message to the world.

It was a good excuse tho.

"1..2..5, 10 shots!" If I had photoshop skills there'd be some amazing Zatic meets Count von Count pictures to accompany this.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
June 10 2009 23:35 GMT
#130
zatic's call alone:
http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/intrigue/zaticdrunk.mp3
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
June 11 2009 14:01 GMT
#131
thanks intrigue!
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
June 11 2009 19:01 GMT
#132
thats very kind of you, thank you intrigue

xD
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bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-14 05:18:35
June 14 2009 05:16 GMT
#133
This was a pretty worthless and shit podcast episode, we all know how bad sc2gg is already without needing an hour long diatribe about them. I downloaded this in hopes of hearing about actual Starcraft news(as in previous TL podcasts, which were great), instead all I heard was some stupid drama and faggotry in low quality audio to boot.
And no, I am not a sc2gg supporter/fan either, I stopped visiting their website months ago when they stopped producing worthwhile content.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
June 14 2009 22:53 GMT
#134
Ten shots!

I liked how this podcast was more about drama and random patter than SC shit, which I can read here on the site at my leisure.

I agree with what you said about the TL:A being sort of replaced by the various mogulus streams, therefore my vote goes to reviving liquibition. But you should make liquibition more of an event.. because some of the episodes were really abrupt (the one with Day9 casting comes to mind). What I mean by this is more discussion and analysis during the liquibition rather than just skipping ahead to the next game until the series is done.

I hope to see more of this randomness!

P.S.

Who was the third person in the cast? I only heard kennigit and chill talking, but at the start you mentioned that you were three doing the podcast??
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
June 15 2009 01:44 GMT
#135
only they talked, I recorded it. Hense the 3 of us.
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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
June 19 2009 03:35 GMT
#136
thanks for the great podcast and I rofled hard at idrama
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