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amorpheus
Profile Joined May 2007
Bulgaria2144 Posts
March 12 2009 08:20 GMT
#41
On March 12 2009 12:29 JWD wrote: Unfortunately, I don't think even Zero's best showing will be enough to put him past Chance Park. I pick Luxury's tried-and-true ZvZ, in five nailbiting sets.

and I pick Zero for a clear 3:0 rape.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 12 2009 08:21 GMT
#42
On March 12 2009 17:06 KOFgokuon wrote:
i hope stork kills jangbi ><


I agree: the lesser of two evils.
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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
March 12 2009 08:27 GMT
#43
Lesser of two evils? I hope Stork loses to Jangbi again, as continued payback for when he picked his own teammate to play against in the OSL (was there every any explanation of why he did that?). Stork lost then, and he deserves to lose now.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
March 12 2009 09:08 GMT
#44
JWD i see u dont like Stork. U said he would lose to ForGG, now JangBi. But it's just funny. Stork will win
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Pholon
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands6142 Posts
March 12 2009 09:10 GMT
#45
On March 12 2009 12:29 JWD wrote:

2set on Carthage

Game 2 JangBi opened with an unusual (for him) rush. One well hidden proxy gate with a gas steal and probes pumping as normal (after the initial delay).


Serious? If memory serves me right, ALL PvTs have seen a proxy on that map so far. -_-
Also, in Stork s ForGG 3rd game, I feel ForGG was pretty ahead, getting the bridge contain up, only thing he needed to fear was a shuttle (to break the contain or to drop the main), yet he refuses to make a wraith/goliaths. I feel either of those might have sealed the game early on. Thoughts?
Moderator@TLPholon // "I need a third hand to facepalm right now"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42387 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 09:52:19
March 12 2009 09:12 GMT
#46
On March 12 2009 18:10 Pholon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2009 12:29 JWD wrote:

2set on Carthage

Game 2 JangBi opened with an unusual (for him) rush. One well hidden proxy gate with a gas steal and probes pumping as normal (after the initial delay).


Serious? If memory serves me right, ALL PvTs have seen a proxy on that map so far. -_-
Also, in Stork s ForGG 3rd game, I feel ForGG was pretty ahead, getting the bridge contain up, only thing he needed to fear was a shuttle (to break the contain or to drop the main), yet he refuses to make a wraith/goliaths. I feel either of those might have sealed the game early on. Thoughts?

If only I'd clarified that it wasn't unusual for the map but was rather an unusual thing for him to have done given his usual safe style.
If I'd thought to do that you'd have absolutely no point at all.

As for your other comments. Yeah, he really needed to be better antireaver. It completely raped him. In the bread and butter PvT Stork was all over the place, not so much being outplayed as suiciding. He didn't need goliathes or wraiths to beat it, although they certainly would have helped. He just needed to be better at using the standard counter of mines, tanks and turrets.
I guess if you're really bad at antireaver then you can justify going extra stuff to seal the deal but fOrGG should really be able to stop a reaver without going wraith.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 09:25:55
March 12 2009 09:25 GMT
#47
Edit: nevermind I readjusted my sarcasm meter and now all is well.
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latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
March 12 2009 09:39 GMT
#48
Boy, you must really not like stork to give him a C after he 3-0'd his opponent. Regardless of his play, he 3-0'd his opponent, which is really hard to do regardless of who you're playing.

I'd also like to point out that after his 2 PvT losses, Jangbi's PvT Elo score is lower than Bisu's. Yay!
Moo
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42387 Posts
March 12 2009 09:49 GMT
#49
On March 12 2009 18:39 latent wrote:
Boy, you must really not like stork to give him a C after he 3-0'd his opponent. Regardless of his play, he 3-0'd his opponent, which is really hard to do regardless of who you're playing.

I'd also like to point out that after his 2 PvT losses, Jangbi's PvT Elo score is lower than Bisu's. Yay!

No. 3-0s are easy if you're substantially better than the opponent, which Stork is. If Stork played like we know he can play and straightup raped then he'd get a B. If he somehow exceeded himself (which tbh he can't do vs fOrGG because he's not sufficiently challenged) he'd get an A. If he scraped through some extremely sloppy wins while playing substandard games he gets a C. It's not about the result, it's about how he's playing.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
March 12 2009 10:09 GMT
#50
whoever wins jangbi vs stork ( i hope for stork ) will lose to luxury anyways, so it doesnt matter.
i doubt that the finals will be as interesting as the semifinals.
bad bracketmaking from the msl staff... even though it ofc good to have no interteam finals, well, it was probably the best they could make out of that lineup.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
March 12 2009 10:14 GMT
#51
jesus, reading this was almost as good as watching the games. Thank you!
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
March 12 2009 10:22 GMT
#52
Naddaaa ;_;
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 11:12:38
March 12 2009 11:10 GMT
#53
On March 12 2009 19:09 Heimatloser wrote:
whoever wins jangbi vs stork ( i hope for stork ) will lose to luxury anyways, so it doesnt matter.
i doubt that the finals will be as interesting as the semifinals.
bad bracketmaking from the msl staff... even though it ofc good to have no interteam finals, well, it was probably the best they could make out of that lineup.


And you have no idea what you are talking about.
Bad bracketmaking....what the fuck.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
March 12 2009 12:10 GMT
#54
Highlight videos are really nice.
No I'm never serious.
YY_August
Profile Joined March 2009
China3 Posts
March 12 2009 12:38 GMT
#55
hello,everyone!
I am from china !
真正的贵族不会和平民抢镜头!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
March 12 2009 13:21 GMT
#56
Stork should get a B I think.
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riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3392 Posts
March 12 2009 14:37 GMT
#57
Maybe Stork didn't care, he was already ahead by 2 games (they were good)
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
March 12 2009 14:50 GMT
#58
I think Jangbi will have Stork, I don't feel too strongly about either one to care much, but I do like jangbis shuttle play.
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-12 15:10:29
March 12 2009 15:10 GMT
#59
Really nice write up. At first glance, the picture on the front page made me think that they were wearing kilts.
Chains none
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 12 2009 15:25 GMT
#60
On March 12 2009 15:40 deathgodtoss wrote:
artosis, cheese is part of the game. boxer will tell that to you too. jangbi did what needed to get done, deviating from his standard play to keep nada guessing. the better player came out on top, even though i was rooting for nada.

It's extra funny because NaDa cheesed just as much as JangBi did.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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