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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8097 Posts
January 27 2009 04:53 GMT
#21
Man leta's game vs lux still has me going :O

He defiantly has more momentum right now than any other player, it's hard to think that he won' be in at least 1 final this season.
Free Palestine
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
January 27 2009 05:04 GMT
#22
On January 27 2009 12:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2009 12:30 KnightOfNi wrote:
Uhh zulu, Zero advanced too...

And see, all of you people (FAKESTEVE) who were saying that Leta is boring and uninventive, STFU. He is far and away the best player right now. Don't even try to tell me otherwise (see Bisu vs any zerg recently, Best vs Saint, Flash vs Fantasy, Jaedong vs Upmagic, Jangbi vs Anytime). And besides, after a certain point it doesn't even matter if he's "uninventive", all that really matters are the Ws.

Yeah, and Group G was the all-terran group. GET YO FACTS STRAIGHT MANI.

Seriously though, check your facts and do some editing. Major errors all over the place >_<.

Leta vs BestGod. Leta vs Jangbi, Leta vs Best. Flawed logic.


Leta vs Bestgod = map loss. The only terran really capable of winning on the map is Flash cuz he has a knack for playing on unplayable maps. Don't know why...

Leta vs Jangbi and vs Best was his (leta's) weakest matchup against the strongest PvTs in the game. Don't tell me my logic is flawed. Notice that in my examples there were no map losses and losses to dragons in there (no, anytime is not a dragon).
RIP eSTRO :(
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
January 27 2009 05:21 GMT
#23
Flash's control+macro + Leta's creativity = ???
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 27 2009 05:21 GMT
#24
On January 27 2009 14:04 KnightOfNi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2009 12:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 27 2009 12:30 KnightOfNi wrote:
Uhh zulu, Zero advanced too...

And see, all of you people (FAKESTEVE) who were saying that Leta is boring and uninventive, STFU. He is far and away the best player right now. Don't even try to tell me otherwise (see Bisu vs any zerg recently, Best vs Saint, Flash vs Fantasy, Jaedong vs Upmagic, Jangbi vs Anytime). And besides, after a certain point it doesn't even matter if he's "uninventive", all that really matters are the Ws.

Yeah, and Group G was the all-terran group. GET YO FACTS STRAIGHT MANI.

Seriously though, check your facts and do some editing. Major errors all over the place >_<.

Leta vs BestGod. Leta vs Jangbi, Leta vs Best. Flawed logic.


Leta vs Bestgod = map loss. The only terran really capable of winning on the map is Flash cuz he has a knack for playing on unplayable maps. Don't know why...

Leta vs Jangbi and vs Best was his (leta's) weakest matchup against the strongest PvTs in the game. Don't tell me my logic is flawed. Notice that in my examples there were no map losses and losses to dragons in there (no, anytime is not a dragon).

Your logic is flawed because you only accept map losses and losses to dragons as acceptable reason to lose. That is not true. You can't go, he lost to a dragon it doesn't count. But BeSt lost in his worst MU to Saint's best MU on a zerg favored map, it counts.
Jaedong
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-27 15:55:21
January 27 2009 05:28 GMT
#25
On January 27 2009 13:35 BlackMagister wrote:
Zerg Notes article is wrong. Luxury faced Kal only once. The person Kal faced in the loser's match was Hyuk. It was

Kal<Luxury
Hyuk<Leta
Luxury<Leta Winner
Kal<Hyuk Loser
Hyuk<Luxury Final


"Enter Hyuk. After watching Leta make the red-hot Luxury look like a D+ noob, he entered the winning game with a spot in the ro16 on the line. Leta calmly dropped a metal build, lost a few scv to mutalisks, and then rolled over the drone-starved Hyuk."

Oh this is also kind of wrong since Leta beat Lux after he beat Hyuk.


wow im retarded, 2nd game was indeed hyuk and not luxury lol
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 27 2009 05:30 GMT
#26
On January 27 2009 14:28 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2009 13:35 BlackMagister wrote:
Zerg Notes article is wrong. Luxury faced Kal only once. The person Kal faced in the loser's match was Hyuk. It was

Kal<Luxury
Hyuk<Leta
Luxury<Leta Winner
Kal<Hyuk Loser
Hyuk<Luxury Final


"Enter Hyuk. After watching Leta make the red-hot Luxury look like a D+ noob, he entered the winning game with a spot in the ro16 on the line. Leta calmly dropped a metal build, lost a few scv to mutalisks, and then rolled over the drone-starved Hyuk."

Oh this is also kind of wrong since Leta beat Lux after he beat Hyuk.


Luxury played Kal twice but the second time is not the loser's match but the final match

No it was
Kal<Luxury
Hyuk<Leta
Luxury<Leta Winner
Kal<Hyuk Loser
Hyuk<Luxury Final

Yes, Hyuk beat Kal. Although Lux and Kal played in the PL about a month ago.
Jaedong
Fainer
Profile Joined January 2009
Costa Rica12 Posts
January 27 2009 05:44 GMT
#27
Stork obvius
Me encanta StarCraft
Atlan
Profile Joined September 2007
Taiwan36 Posts
January 27 2009 07:34 GMT
#28
Is it me who just happen to watch game where protoss loose against zerg or all protoss loose against zerg lately ? ( and always vs a shitload of hydras )
"It's called hold position bro!"
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 27 2009 07:48 GMT
#29
More TvPs this week. Yay!
Brood War loyalist
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 27 2009 08:37 GMT
#30
On January 27 2009 16:34 Atlan wrote:
Is it me who just happen to watch game where protoss loose against zerg or all protoss loose against zerg lately ? ( and always vs a shitload of hydras )

Sure seems like it, which is why the "Age of Protoss" might be dwindling
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
January 27 2009 08:37 GMT
#31
Oh my, Leta delivered just another fine rape!

Great reports, thank you so so much!
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
January 27 2009 11:04 GMT
#32
IMHO a player should not concern himself if his play is boring. He should concern himself whether the build he has chosen is the strongest (gives him the highest chance of winning) possible on the map he is playing. It was like when Stork went reaver-> carrier every game. He felt that those builds were the strongest on those maps, when the pool shifted to andromeda/colloseum he went arbiter instead. Leta is just like that, the reason why he does so much different stuff on destination is probably because, as Idra has stated, standard TvZ is not very good on that map. He feels that his safe methodical style is the best way to play TvT, and the stats seem to support that notion.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
gm.tOSS
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany898 Posts
January 27 2009 11:44 GMT
#33
nice read and awesome game of the week - thx for your efforts
HuK HuK HuK | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | There is death in the hane.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 27 2009 12:29 GMT
#34
nice writeup
Leta is THE furthest thing from "boring"
:D

keep up the good work
cw)minsean(ru
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 27 2009 12:43 GMT
#35
There's something about the poll, and I won't dare point it out.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
ATB
Profile Joined January 2009
Swaziland3 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-27 16:25:50
January 27 2009 14:12 GMT
#36
.
hot_bid, pls do the dishes. tx!
firedodo
Profile Joined November 2008
China116 Posts
January 27 2009 15:28 GMT
#37
On January 27 2009 17:37 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2009 16:34 Atlan wrote:
Is it me who just happen to watch game where protoss loose against zerg or all protoss loose against zerg lately ? ( and always vs a shitload of hydras )

Sure seems like it, which is why the "Age of Protoss" might be dwindling

Because the number of Terrans is low this time
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 27 2009 15:44 GMT
#38
The number of Terrans is low? There were 14 Terrans in the Ro32 compared to 9 each for Zerg and Protoss.
Zero fighting.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-27 17:30:32
January 27 2009 17:29 GMT
#39
What the hell?

" Zerg Notes by zulu_nation8

As the only zerg who advanced from week 2's matches, Luxury claims centre spotlight for this week's zerg notes. In two quick games Luxury shrugged off Kal with an impeccably timed hydra rush build and some solid micro. Carthage, the map of the first match, has an unusually wide choke that makes protoss especially vulnerable to early zerg aggression. Luxury took full advantage of this weakness by executing a fast +range, 3 base 5 hydra build after spire which, using the room provided by the open choke to flank Kal’s front, broke Kal’s defense and ended the game before Kal could amass a ground army. The hydra break was excellently timed, and Luxury macroed perfectly. When the rush came, Kal needed a lot more cannons to defend successfully; he also lost a shuttle with a reaver carelessly as he tried to pull off some cute shuttle micro to hang on.

Kal vastly underestimated Luxury’s hydra count, and looked oblivious to Luxury’s incoming rush despite scouting it days before. Luxury's build seemed to counter the shuttle harass build quite nicely, but it also looked as though Kal could have stopped it easily with more cannons and safer play in general.

In the losers' match, both players opened exactly the same as the previous game. However because of Destination’s narrow, parallel chokes, Luxury chose to defend rather than attempting the same timing rush. Luxury’s hydra placement prevented Kal from harassing effectively. When Kal finally managed to sneak a DT into Luxury’s natural, Kal naively came out with a tiny army to try and expand. He succeeded only in getting demolished by Luxury’s massive hydra force, and then proceeded to lose his natural. I have no idea why Kal came out and put himself in perfect position to be flanked. He lost the game with one mistake, much like last game.

Congratulations to Luxury for joining Zero, Savior and Yellow[arnc] as the zerg players who've advanced so far. "

I am absolutely sure there werent 2 matches only the first on Chartage, the Destination ZvP was between Kal and HYUK, and HYUK WON!!


EDIT: Nevermind, i realized this was already pointed out, sorry
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-27 21:43:44
January 27 2009 21:43 GMT
#40
Nice write-up and much welcomed since I wasn't able to see the games myself. One thing, the expression is "coup de grâce" and not "coup de gras". "Gras" means "fatty".
觀過斯知仁矣.
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