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[WL] Days of Reckoning

Text byFzero
January 21st, 2009 23:28 GMT
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Days of Reckoning - Have the Dragons gone missing?
By Fzero


2009 Shinhan Bank Winners League


The Winners League has finally begun. Rosters have been set. Matches have started. The first week is in the books. The fan base here at TeamLiquid have been more than excited about the prospect of an all-kill format being presented night after night. Over 3/4ths of the members of this site have voted in favor of the Winner's League format when compared to the Traditional Proleague. What nobody told you, the fans, was that that games would be nothing like what you expected. Flash and Jaedong? Pssshhhh. How about Anytime and iloveoov! Hell yeah, it's about time. KTF have won seven games with Flash having only one victory.

This Week at a Glance
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Let's have a look at how things are shaping up thus far. Most people had high expectations for the proleague powerhouses like Samsung Khan, Lecaf Oz, STX Soul, and SK Telecom T1. Players like Jaedong, Flash, Bisu, and Leta had dominated the Shinhan Bank Proleague 08-09 season up till now. With a hearty ten matches already having been played, the standings have shaken out in a vastly different way. CJ Entus has had a wonderful showing from their irregular performers Movie and Iris thus far. KTF hasn't been a one man show like predicted since Luxury has showed up in a big way. Air Force Ace's Anytime has played magnificently, racking up five wins in two matches which catapulted them to just outside of a playoff spot so far. What surprises does next week entail? I'm sure most of you will continue to tune in and hope for an even more exciting week.

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When we think about Progaming, we think about fiery victories where our progaming heroes are showered in confetti from the ceiling while they hoist a shiny new trophy high above their head. We also think about narrow defeats wherein our most beloved idol barely missed glory as it was snatched from his/her eyes by our newest mortal enemy. And yes, a girl will win something in gaming one day. Not in Korea, but somewhere, someday... Maybe. I don't have an answer to the reason that Winners League has started so bizarrely, and frankly.. I don't want one. I could not be more excited for my fantasy team to have been so very wrong. It has made this league much more exciting than I could have ever imagined to not have any idea who will win any given match. Hopefully this trend continues and captain Korea here can lead his team to the playoffs!

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Now, you would imagine with all the hustle and bustle produced by such an enigmatic beginning we would arrive at some glaring imbalance with the maps. Perhaps Tau Cross isn't so perfect as KESPA imagined? And Medusa? Deary me, Bisu taught Protoss so well how to destroy that map. Surely something was not thought through with all the crazy victories happening night after night. Well... glancing up at our statistics here, there simply isn't evidence to that at all. I'd hardly be able to make a case for ANY map imbalances looking at the data so far, much less to suggest that Anytime and Yarnc are destroying people like Stork and Sea based on some ridiculous map feature. Perhaps in the coming weeks we'll be able to single out a reason for the insanity, but for now we'll just have to let the Joker rule for a while.

Players of the Week

Game 4 of ACE vs SKT1:
(P)Anytime < Rush Hour 3 >(T)iloveoov


Anytime's Overall Record: 5-1


Game 3 of KTF vs KHAN:
(Z)Luxury < Destination > (P)JangBi


Luxury's Overall Record: 5-1


Game 2 of OGN vs MBCGame:
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] < Sin Chupung-Ryeong > (T)Sea


YellOw[ArnC]'s Overall Record: 4-1


Game 4 of CJ vs Stars:
(T)Iris < Rush Hour 3 > (P)free


Iris' Overall Record: 3-0


Game 4 of OGN vs Stars:
(T)Leta < Tau Cross > (P)GuemChi


Leta's Overall Record: 3-1


Damn. Samsung Khan in a race for last, Air Force Ace fighting for top six, and CJ Entus leading the pack. I'd say I saw it all coming, but only Intrigue can see into the future. The excitement and anticipation for the rest of the Winners League is going to be at an all time high, I predict. I hope everyone appreciates just how much better being involved with e-sports has become because of TeamLiquid. Take a little time and give back to the wonderful community we all love. Well, that's all I have for you this week. Hopefully you enjoyed catching up on anything you missed. Please let me know if anything can be improved in the coming weeks. If there is a feature you are dying to have added, I'll do my best to accommodate. Don't be afraid to speak up. Games start again in a few days, and I hope you guys are ready!
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
January 23 2009 02:06 GMT
#2
Nice writeup! I'll keep enjoying the action WL is bringing even if my fantasy team is doomed as well.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 23 2009 02:08 GMT
#3
Good shit. Luxury and Yarnc FTW
TranslatorBaa!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 23 2009 02:09 GMT
#4
Great write up, I also never expected these results. Especially players like Movie and Guemchi pulling out several wins. Makes WL so much more exciting.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
January 23 2009 02:10 GMT
#5
Wow, it seems so obvious to pick the 2nd best player of each team now for Fantasy PL. 20/20 hindsight, I guess.
Jaedong
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
January 23 2009 02:15 GMT
#6
i dunno man, why do you think there have been no tvz games on destination and only 2 tvp games on medusa? (which is 2-0 for protoss)
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 23 2009 02:16 GMT
#7
go CJ! come on KTF, DO IT!!!!!!
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 02:18:58
January 23 2009 02:18 GMT
#8
WINNERS LEAGUE IS FUCKING AWESOME, WHEN I WATCH IT I AM LIKE A YOUNG BOY BEFORE CHRISTMAS, AND OH BOY, SANTA CLAUS DELIVERED.
UnS)DeathTrap
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada150 Posts
January 23 2009 02:21 GMT
#9
Really anxious to see next games. Hope the streams dont fail us again
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
January 23 2009 02:22 GMT
#10
Nice writeup
"KTF hasn't been a one man show like predicted since YellOw[ArnC] has showed up in a big way"
I think you mean his brother
aka DTF-ZeRo
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
January 23 2009 02:34 GMT
#11
CJ KTF fighting!
fromis_9 enjoyer
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
January 23 2009 02:38 GMT
#12
gogo CJ/KTF!

its also amazing to see anytime rolling people
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
January 23 2009 02:40 GMT
#13
Nice write up man very good, i like the games of the week part, 815 vs best could be put up there i really liked that game,
You could add 1v1 rankings aswell
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
January 23 2009 02:49 GMT
#14
Does anyone know when the next matches are on?
Free Palestine
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
January 23 2009 02:50 GMT
#15
cj woot
fuck lag
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 23 2009 02:52 GMT
#16
All kill brothers FTW!
Luxury is vindicated, Yarnc is a star.
They have been the biggest ballers in WL so far. I wish my brother and I were that good of zerg players.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
January 23 2009 02:55 GMT
#17
really nice write-up, F0 <3
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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 23 2009 03:07 GMT
#18
On January 23 2009 11:22 IPS.ZeRo wrote:
Nice writeup
"KTF hasn't been a one man show like predicted since YellOw[ArnC] has showed up in a big way"
I think you mean his brother


Thanks for the catch.

On January 23 2009 11:15 benjammin wrote:
i dunno man, why do you think there have been no tvz games on destination and only 2 tvp games on medusa? (which is 2-0 for protoss)


These statistics are only for Winner's League, which are accurate as far as I know.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
thor jton
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada62 Posts
January 23 2009 03:08 GMT
#19
wow
i think i picked anytime for fantasy league
AWESOMESAUCE!!!
btw
nice writeup
Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
January 23 2009 03:09 GMT
#20
Frozean is gonna come outta nowhere and all kill every team in the league! Just in spite of all the hate for him!
Firebathero is still the best!
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 23 2009 03:26 GMT
#21
This new format is sooo refreshing...

Unfortunately it'll stabilize once teams discover who plays better under these circumstances, and lineups get a shakedown. ):
Hello
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
January 23 2009 03:29 GMT
#22
Cool setup for the writeup
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
January 23 2009 03:30 GMT
#23
I'm a stars fan, and I enjoyed every game Leta played...and I HATE seeing my players lose. That game versus guemchi...how do you describe it to someone? You can't just say, "He came back to win it." It's more like, "Leta lost that game. Completely and utterly. And then he obliterated him."

Leta is terrifying. I have never seen a gamer that wanted to win so badly.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
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ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 23 2009 03:39 GMT
#24
The writeup was very good. However, you failed to include Leta's game against free which came in the same series as leta vs geumchi. His probe kills time after time were simply amazing. Free even sent 6 goons and 2 probes at the same time and Leta managed to snipe the probes anyway.
Sullifam
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 04:14:35
January 23 2009 04:08 GMT
#25
I really made a choice. I picked the top 5 performers of the week and chose a game.. a few of them played two or even three particularly interesting games, but I didn't want to flood the post. It's just a simple recap really. I'll be doing one a week.

Thanks CRDude for the update about Games 3-4, they are now on the post.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 23 2009 04:30 GMT
#26
Nice update F0. Hope you're doing a lot more WL coverage.
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whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
January 23 2009 05:25 GMT
#27
are there any games next week? i dont see anything scheduled on the calendar
im gay
-slo.m1ke-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Slovenia352 Posts
January 23 2009 05:58 GMT
#28
waiting for anytime allkill
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
January 23 2009 06:10 GMT
#29
On January 23 2009 12:09 Sprite wrote:
Frozean is gonna come outta nowhere and all kill every team in the league! Just in spite of all the hate for him!

you mean, cute angel, or the black magician.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
January 23 2009 06:17 GMT
#30
CJ on top! Booya! Moar confidence for Ma Jae Yoon plz!
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 23 2009 07:38 GMT
#31
Winner's League is more unpredictable, which kinda makes it more fun. Teams have to become better at improvisation.
Brood War loyalist
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 08:13:37
January 23 2009 08:13 GMT
#32
Nice writeup!

I feel that Fantasy PL is cursed against me. The last change I made to my team was Yarnc -> forGG
On January 23 2009 15:10 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2009 12:09 Sprite wrote:
Frozean is gonna come outta nowhere and all kill every team in the league! Just in spite of all the hate for him!

you mean, cute angel, or the black magician.

It's going to happen. CuteAngel is certainly capable of doing it.

But MVP has a much higher chance of getting multiple allkills, because he is THE MVP.
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
January 23 2009 08:49 GMT
#33
Excellent write-up F0!!

I agree with the games you picked, such good games. CJ first? Fuck yeah, even if it costs me a good spot on fantasy PL!

So excited to see the upcoming matches!
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Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
January 23 2009 09:23 GMT
#34
Luxury and Yarnc are impressive, this new format of PL is very entertaining, gogo Zergs twins !
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
January 23 2009 10:26 GMT
#35
lecaf is 4-2 great write-up nonetheless!
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
January 23 2009 10:52 GMT
#36
please keep the winners league..
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
January 23 2009 11:57 GMT
#37
Nice write-up, winners league is so much more fun than ordinary proleague.

How is the reception in Korea to this 'new' format so far?
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 23 2009 13:12 GMT
#38
On January 23 2009 20:57 Lenwe wrote:
Nice write-up, winners league is so much more fun than ordinary proleague.

How is the reception in Korea to this 'new' format so far?

teamleague was always much more favored over Proleague everywhere. Its just that OGN holds much more power over MBCgame.
dats racist
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
January 23 2009 13:25 GMT
#39
That Leta guy won again. Amazing.
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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 23 2009 14:13 GMT
#40
On January 23 2009 19:26 Jaeden wrote:
lecaf is 4-2 great write-up nonetheless!


Fixed, and thanks.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-23 16:20:18
January 23 2009 16:19 GMT
#41
Nice write-up. And gooooooo CJ. ^^ So happy to see Iris and Movie pull through. This format is so much more exciting.
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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 23 2009 16:57 GMT
#42
Due to some confusion I remade the second graphic in the opening post to be a little more clear. I hope its easily understandable now. My apologies.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 23 2009 17:33 GMT
#43
Awesome writeup. No mention of fantasy proleague? (yes, I do know that it's a news post, but still >.>
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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 23 2009 17:39 GMT
#44
Not this week, I didn't have a chance to speak to Hot_Bid about possibly including fantasy statistics in my news post every week -- didn't want to do anything without permission. Maybe in the future.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
January 23 2009 19:04 GMT
#45
Nice write-up. Lecaf ftw ^^
kawoq
Profile Joined November 2005
Guatemala357 Posts
January 23 2009 19:56 GMT
#46
nice write up, I just check yesterday's night the game between Leta and Guemchi and I was like O_O. Oh God, Leta is fucked now... he lost his natural, protoss has his natural up and will make his third right now, he is going to get outmacroed soon... but then he came back with vulture harass all over the place, his natural, his third, even his main have vultures most of the time.. just sick, though Guemchi has none luck on his side, if his scarab hit as they were supossed I think Leta wouldnt make it.. too bad for him.. great for the Terran ^_^

Great summarize of the WL so far, I hope you keep making them weekly as you offer, I dont have time to watch all the games and I understand you just pick some but can you add a complete list of the best games in a spoiler at the end of the article please? I think there is a lot of people like me that doesnt have the time to check all the VODs. I hope you will. Great reading.
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akechi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States43 Posts
January 23 2009 21:47 GMT
#47
where can i watch these matches?
nataziel
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia1455 Posts
January 24 2009 05:28 GMT
#48
Click on the vods link up the top and download the torrents for whichever match you want to see.
u gotta sk8
5tarscream
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore459 Posts
January 24 2009 06:08 GMT
#49
SK telecom1 will win. :D
Oov, Bisu, TheZerg, Canata Hwaiting~~
5tarscream
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore459 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-24 06:27:30
January 24 2009 06:26 GMT
#50
where can i find vid for all matches?
Oov, Bisu, TheZerg, Canata Hwaiting~~
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
January 25 2009 00:21 GMT
#51
On January 24 2009 15:26 5tarscream wrote:
where can i find vid for all matches?


on YouTube's Teamliquid account: http://www.youtube.com/user/nevake

or in the teamliquid tracker: http://www.teamliquid.net/tracker/ (need to download the torrents).
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Photinia
Profile Joined January 2009
Taiwan4 Posts
January 25 2009 03:23 GMT
#52
..Super Stick yellow
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
January 25 2009 20:09 GMT
#53
Thanks for this recap Fzero!
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 27 2009 07:39 GMT
#54
FUCK YEA ANYTIME + OOV !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I FOLLOWED MY HEART IN CHOOSING MY FPL TEAM AND I AM NOT DISAPPOINTED
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
January 27 2009 22:33 GMT
#55
iloveoov with a 3 game win streak in WL before he lost to Anytime?? Nice.
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5tarscream
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore459 Posts
January 29 2009 06:10 GMT
#56
SKT(iloveoov and bisu) will kill all. WL is so awesome :DDD
Oov, Bisu, TheZerg, Canata Hwaiting~~
Azh_AvenGer2
Profile Joined February 2009
United States8 Posts
February 02 2009 10:32 GMT
#57
Anyone know where u can watch games live?
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