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[WCS KR] Ro32 - Group H Preview/Group F Recap (S1)

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April 17th, 2013 23:12 GMT

2013 GSL Season 2

WCS Korea Season 1 - GSL




Code S Ro32 Group F
Recap: Gumiho and Innovation advance


Code S Ro32 Group H
Preview: Soulkey, Maru, Flash, B4


Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Code S Ro32: Group F Recap

by Waxangel

Results via Live Report Thread by Yello.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
INnoVation vs. Rain
(T)INnoVation <Whirlwind> (P)Rain
(T)INnoVation <Star Station> (P)Rain
(T)INnoVation <Daybreak> (P)Rain

Rain wins 2-1!

HyuN vs. GuMiho
(Z)HyuN <Akilon Wastes> (T)GuMiho
(Z)HyuN <Whirlwind> (T)GuMiho
(Z)HyuN <> (T)GuMiho

Gumiho wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(P)Rain <Bel'Shir Vestige> (T)GuMiho
(P)Rain <Daybreak> (T)GuMiho
(P)Rain <> (T)GuMiho

Gumiho wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(T)INnoVation <Bel'Shir Vestige> (Z)HyuN
(T)INnoVation <Akilon Wastes> (Z)HyuN
(T)INnoVation <> (Z)HyuN

Innovation wins 2-0!

Final Match
(P)Rain <Atlas> (T)INnoVation
(P)Rain <Akilon Wastes> (T)INnoVation
(P)Rain <> (T)INnoVation

Innovation wins 2-0!



Gumiho and Innovation advance to Code S RO16!



Terran Terrors
- (T)FXO.GuMiho and (T)STX_INnoVation advance from Ro32 Group F


Hot on the tail of Group E, where two Zergs advanced, Group F saw another same-race duo progress to the Ro16. The Terran duo of (T)FXO.GuMiho and (T)STX_INnoVation proved to be just too good for (P)SKT_Rain and (Z)Quantic.HyuN, who were left behind in a trail of afterburner exhaust.

(T)GuMiho – a player capable of incredible highs and abyssal lows – showed up in his best Code S form in perhaps over a year, going 4 - 0 over two tough opponents and reaching the Ro16 without a scratch. Against (Z)HyuN, the runner up of the final Code S of 2012, Gumiho had it surprisingly easy. He reacted quickly against two consecutive roach all-in builds (one at hatchery, the other at lair), solidifying his defenses and taking insurmountable leads after thwarting the attacks.

The winners' match against (P)SKT_Rain was much more difficult, but that made his wins that much more impressive. Rain had come up after defeating (T)INnoVation in his first match, showing solid defenses against Terran's flavor of the month all-in: a maxed out army attack with the help of SCVs. A two base colossus all-in of his own got Rain the second win, rounding out a solid performance on both the offensive and defensive side of the ball.

However, Gumiho was a different beast entirely, using his aggressive style to take the game to Rain from the very beginning of game one. Despite having his proxy factor and barracks scouted, Gumiho was able to pile on enough pressure and do the damage to bring himself up to even with Rain's fast expansion. Things looked grim once Rain started assembling his deathball, but Gumiho's used marvelous splitting and the power of hellbats to stomp bulldoze through Rain's forces. After that, Gumiho took the second game with the assist from Rain. As he charged in with a similar SCV-pull timing to the one Rain held off against Innovation, but Rain had conveniently forgotten to research extended thermal lances, and forgot to put down a time warp as well. Gumiho's forces marched on to victory, giving him a 4 - 0 sweep on the night and a spot in the Ro16.

(T)STX_INnoVation soars through in second

Down in the losers' match, HyuN suffered yet another one-sided 0 - 2 defeat. HyuN had looked a bit off against Gumiho and he continued to look the same way against Innovation, losing 19 drones to some rudimentary hellion and widow mine harass in game one. After that kind of start, it was all too easy for Innovation to yank HyuN around on a leash with his medivac play and crush him with ease. The second game didn't go any better for HyuN, as he had yet another roach rush thwarted, after which he had little hope of winning the game.

That left Innovation to face Rain in a rematch for the final Ro16 spot up for grabs. While Rain had looked a level above in the first series, Innovation gathered himself and turned things around in their second meeting. The first game saw Rain attempt a big stalker all-in after holding off some early medivac-mine harass from Innovation, but unfortunately for Rain, Innovation had played it safe with bunkers and mines on defense. In game two, Innovation was finally able to show off his drop play in TvP, taking advantage of rare lapses in Rain's defenses. Rain struggled to cover all the ground in his base, and was overwhelmed when Innovation gathered all his forces for a frontal attack. Unable to avenge his defeat at MLG Dallas, Rain GG'd out and conceded the Ro16 spot to Innovation.

Code S Ro32: Group H Preview


by Fionn

[image loading]

Image: petad_
*Group G has been rescheduled to next Tuesday


Group H: (Z)Woongjin_Soulkey, (T)MaruPrime, (T)KT_Flash, (Z)Azubu.BBoongBBoong


God Enters

Here we are, at the moment everyone has been waiting for since KeSPA announced they were transitioning to SC2. The God of RTS games himself, (T)KT_Flash, will make his debut in the premiere SC2 league in the world. No player has ever had more pressure on him in his first Code S run, with most people - fans, Blizzard, and GomTV - already pegging in (and hoping for) a Flash vs. Life final. Having a rivalry that could be at the same level of the old LeeSsang Rok between Flash and Jaedong in Brood War would certainly spark more interest in the Korean scene. That's not to say that a Flash vs. Life final would make SC2 the biggest thing in Korea, but a continuation of the epic rivalry between two prodigies from two generations would help help merge the worlds of BW and SC2 that remain separated even now.

Unfortunately, with how Flash has been playing lately, it might be a bit of daydreaming to already be thinking of a Flash final against a player like Innovation or Life. While he was doing well in HotS, getting second place at MLG Dallas and rolling along in Proleague, he has been in a bit of a slump lately, losing his last four in Proleague, even getting replaced by his trusty sidekick Stats as KT's ace in their last match against EG-TL. Everyone goes on losing streaks - even Gods - and this shouldn't mean it's time to doubt Flash and put money on him falling in the Ro32. But it's something to think about as he enters a group where he is a heavy favorite with his KeSPA comrade.

The Deadly Strategist

(Z)Woongjin_Soulkey's life has been pretty good. He was a top player in Brood War who transitioned to SC2 and continued his dominant ways, becoming recognized as one of the two best KeSPA Zergs alongside GSL champion Roro. His team, Woongjin Stars, are running away with the lead in Proleague and can already start planning their travel plans to the finals, five games up on their closest rival and having an insane +36 game differential. With sOs, Zero, Light, Flying and the rest of Soulkey's formidable teammates, Stars is the deepest team in Proleague, hosting the ability to throw out top players at every race and even give their core members rest if need be.

3 - 1 in HotS, Soulkey will be heading into this group as either the favorite or second place favorite in the minds of most, the two KeSPA players heavily valued over their ESF foes. Soulkey and Flash should both be considered top five in their race, both showing the skill that you'd expect from challengers to the championship throne. Soulkey had to watch Roro take the championship last season, falling in the quarterfinals to Taeja, but with his improved play throughout his first two seasons in Code S, a semifinal or even a final appearance is possible in his third go around.

His greatest strength is his game planning for his opponents, having stopped Life two seasons ago in Code S. Soulkey announced afterward that he had only planned for one player in the group - that being Life - and it worked to perfection, going 4-0 over the defending GSL champion and knocking him out of the league in shocking fashion. With an equally scary Flash in his group, you would think that Soulkey would be zeroed in on the KT Rolster ace, hoping to face him in the winners' match.

Revenge of the ESF

Flash and Soulkey are the favorites, but the two ESF players in this group won't be walkovers. (Z)BBoongBBoong, one of Azubu's Zerg pillars alongside Violet and Symbol, has been a surprise the past few seasons in GSL, getting to the Ro16 last season and playing excellently even in defeat. He will be a heavy underdog against Flash in his first match of the night, but God is slumping, and B4 might be able to continue the losing streak for Flash and sneak into the winners' match.

Finally, we have (T)MaruPrime, the forgotten member in the trio of new generation talents alongside Creator and Life. Creator went on to win WCS Korea, TSL4 and got second place at the WCS global finals, and Life went on to win...well, everything, and Maru has been stuck watching his two peers excel while he's been bouncing around Code A and B for the last few months. There will be people that say Maru shouldn't be compared to Creator or be in the same universe as Life, but there have been brief flashes of Maru brilliance that makes you believe he can be at the same level of Creator and maybe even Life. His micro, at times, is out of this world, even better than his teammate MarineKing's. He isn't consistent, following up great performances with disaster, but if he could only play at the same high level for an entire night of play, Maru could be the player with the most people talking about him by night's end.

Overall thoughts and prediction:

The easy pick is Soulkey first and Flash second. Soulkey has been very consistent, is on the best KeSPA team, and has been to the quarterfinals the past two seasons. He's great at group play, usually focusing out a single player in the group and taking him out no matter what. Flash, while on a slump, is still Flash, possibly the greatest RTS player we've ever seen and a player who might want a Code S championship more than anyone else. You can look at his four losses and say that the trend will continue, but betting against Flash is not the smartest thing to do when he's motivated to grab his first championship in SC2.

B4 is a player who has continually upset favorites, but this group might be a bit too difficult for him to get out of. If you're looking for a player who could turn everything on its head, it'd be Maru, the prodigy that never was. His play in HotS has been better, and he was able to pull himself out of Code B and get all the way back into Code S in a short amount of time. Maru probably looked up to Flash as a kid growing up, but this might be the night where the new Terran prodigy is able to take out the prodigy turned God.

But...it's Flash, so we're going to play it safe and say that he'll find a way to advance.

Soulkey > Maru
Flash > B4
Soulkey > Flash
Maru > B4
Flash > Maru

Soulkey and Flash advance.


Writers: Fionn and Waxangel.
Graphics: Shiroiusagi
Editor: Waxangel.
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XtreMe_au
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Australia412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 23:21:36
April 17 2013 23:21 GMT
#2
Innovation looked unstoppable after a shaky start... and FLASH FOR THE WIN!
BlackPride
Profile Joined July 2012
United States186 Posts
April 17 2013 23:24 GMT
#3
I'm so excited to see flash in Code S. I will definitely be up all night watching this group. Agree completely with the predictions.
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Mambo
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Denmark1338 Posts
April 17 2013 23:24 GMT
#4
Prolly gonna be Soulkey and Flash, but i hope Maru surprise.
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United States97276 Posts
April 17 2013 23:25 GMT
#5
It's too late to jump on the KeSPA bandwagon, Fionn. We know what you're really thinking.
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United States30730 Posts
April 17 2013 23:27 GMT
#6
No interviews this time? :/
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Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
April 17 2013 23:41 GMT
#7
No interview?
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 17 2013 23:42 GMT
#8
Soulkey probably the favourite for the group. And hopefully Flash pulls out of his mini slump.

Totally have this feeling Maru or B4 will pull out a huge upset here though and then go all "blah" in the Ro16.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33571 Posts
April 17 2013 23:56 GMT
#9
On April 18 2013 08:27 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
No interviews this time? :/


I hear if you say Seeker's name once, he appears
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Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 18 2013 00:00 GMT
#10
SEEKER
Refer to my post.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
April 18 2013 00:18 GMT
#11
Flash looks like a BA
Soulkey's pic pretty good too though
but
Flash 2-0
Boong 2-1-last season ro16 made me gain soo much respect for this guy
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United States2552 Posts
April 18 2013 00:24 GMT
#12
I think there's a pretty good chance Maru makes it through. I really hope Flash redeems his recent play with a strong showing here.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 18 2013 00:30 GMT
#13
psch maru ftw
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vik7
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United States227 Posts
April 18 2013 00:46 GMT
#14
gogo flash
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das_estra
Profile Joined April 2013
Canada1 Post
April 18 2013 00:51 GMT
#15
I'm just as excited for this group as you guys are, but what ever happened to Group G
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
April 18 2013 01:00 GMT
#16
Maru going man mode would be pretty exciting, but I'd rather see flash advance and get tested against some of the eSF's big guns
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billobob
Profile Joined March 2013
United States10 Posts
April 18 2013 01:24 GMT
#17
Code S Ro32: Group H Preview


isn't tomorrow group G?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
April 18 2013 01:47 GMT
#18
On April 18 2013 10:24 billobob wrote:
Show nested quote +
Code S Ro32: Group H Preview


isn't tomorrow group G?

nope, its a group of death and they hyping it up by delaying it till 23rd
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Canada134 Posts
April 18 2013 01:54 GMT
#19
Rain nooo..
althaz
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Australia1001 Posts
April 18 2013 01:56 GMT
#20
I like how Flash seems to have invoked what I now think of as "The MVP Rule": "He's got no realistic chance, but on the other hand he's fucking MVP!".

For what it's worth I think Flash will win the group and I'm gambling (figuratively speaking) on Maru for the #2 spot.
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United States33571 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 02:02:51
April 18 2013 02:02 GMT
#21
On April 18 2013 10:47 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 10:24 billobob wrote:
Code S Ro32: Group H Preview


isn't tomorrow group G?

nope, its a group of death and they hyping it up by delaying it till 23rd


that was actually for PL scheduling reasons, I think Flash/Soulkey were supposed to play on Tue
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April 18 2013 02:54 GMT
#22
Go FlaSh!
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Mexico462 Posts
April 18 2013 03:05 GMT
#23
Flash and Soulkey have this no poblem!
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
April 18 2013 03:20 GMT
#24
On April 18 2013 12:05 Azriel wrote:
Flash and Soulkey have this no poblem!


And Rain had it no problem yerserday
For what we saw of maru and bbongbbong in Hots, you're maybe a little bit confident (and sc2 have a high volatility).
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April 18 2013 03:24 GMT
#25
On April 18 2013 09:00 Zenbrez wrote:
SEEKER

Sup?
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LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
April 18 2013 03:33 GMT
#26
as long as flash advances, i will be a happy bear
:-)
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
April 18 2013 03:45 GMT
#27
So mad I won't be able to watch tonight's match.
Definitely rooting for Flash and B4!
BoxingKangaroo
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Japan955 Posts
April 18 2013 04:06 GMT
#28
Innovation made it through At least one more round of endless fawning by Tastosis.

Would expect Flash to make it out first. Betting on Terran I think is smart too, so I'll predict Maru coming out second.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
April 18 2013 05:04 GMT
#29
Go Flash and Soulkey!
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
April 18 2013 05:23 GMT
#30
Picking B4 and Soulkey to advance. Flash has yet to impress me in sc2.
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ClassicMilds
Profile Joined December 2011
India39 Posts
April 18 2013 05:25 GMT
#31
No interview? I have been F5ing TL for a while now *cries*
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Profile Joined June 2011
United States93 Posts
April 18 2013 05:41 GMT
#32
I've gotta hunch Maru's going to impress.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 18 2013 05:45 GMT
#33
Bogus hype is bigger then his play, though he did look like a great terran yesterday in his second match against Rain, the hype was getting "Nestea" silly.

Looking to this match i'd say Soulkey and a suprise of either maru (no idea what his level of play is atm) or B4 to go through.
Just for kicks ofc, i'd be so amused to see "god" fall early.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 18 2013 06:19 GMT
#34
probably gonna have Soulkey and Maru advancing.


mark my words: Flash will never win a GSL in his life.
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smogg
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria167 Posts
April 18 2013 06:43 GMT
#35
Soulkey < Maru
Flash > B4
Maru < Flash
Soulkey <> B4
Soulkey/B4 > Maru
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smogg
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria167 Posts
April 18 2013 06:44 GMT
#36
On April 18 2013 15:19 Schelim wrote:
probably gonna have Soulkey and Maru advancing.


mark my words: Flash will never win a GSL in his life.


lololololololol
I don't have enough l's and o's to type how funny both parts of your post are.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 18 2013 06:45 GMT
#37
On April 18 2013 15:19 Schelim wrote:
probably gonna have Soulkey and Maru advancing.

mark my words: Flash will never win a GSL in his life.

i think he already won a BW gsl? haha
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Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
April 18 2013 06:53 GMT
#38
On April 18 2013 14:23 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Picking B4 and Soulkey to advance. Flash has yet to impress me in sc2.

Forgive my ignorance, but who is this guy? ^^
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zmsFlood
Profile Joined April 2013
Finland169 Posts
April 18 2013 06:53 GMT
#39
I'm thinking along the same lines as Fionn... Flash and Soulkey andvance, but I think Flash is going to take the winners match
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 18 2013 06:55 GMT
#40
On April 18 2013 15:45 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2013 15:19 Schelim wrote:
probably gonna have Soulkey and Maru advancing.

mark my words: Flash will never win a GSL in his life.

i think he already won a BW gsl? haha

that doesn't count. was it even called GSL in BW? never followed BW so i dunno.

don't get me wrong, Flash is a great player, but so are other people and if he keeps playing as predictably as he has been (and i've been told he did the same thing in BW, but the game was so hard mechanically that he won anyways) then he might make it far, but i doubt he can win a whole season.
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Nightwishone
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy391 Posts
April 18 2013 07:47 GMT
#41
In my opinion there are so many overhyped players and so many underrated ones these days...
Well, only time will prove me right or wrong. Anyway, I'm going for Soulkey and Maru for this one. It really depends upon how Flash is going to play.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
April 18 2013 08:06 GMT
#42
Go Flash and B4!!!!
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
April 18 2013 08:11 GMT
#43
If the last 5 groups are anything to go by, it *should* be Soulkey and Flash but it will only be one of them.
Ramaloke
Profile Joined August 2012
Ukraine11 Posts
April 18 2013 08:22 GMT
#44
Flash FTW no matter what.
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
April 18 2013 08:28 GMT
#45
i think soulkey goes easy 4:0/4:1 as 1 and it will be the 'ace' tvt with flash vs maru... go flash!!
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
April 18 2013 08:40 GMT
#46
Dunno, but the way Flash played in the tournaments I saw, I think his playstyle is too predictable (I have to admit, I haven't seen that many matches of Flash). Might work for matches without a long time to prepare for a specific opponent - but the opponents in this group will have had enough time to prepare and they'll abuse Flash's predictability, if he has not changed since... lets say MLG.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 18 2013 09:05 GMT
#47
On April 18 2013 17:40 Swisslink wrote:
Dunno, but the way Flash played in the tournaments I saw, I think his playstyle is too predictable (I have to admit, I haven't seen that many matches of Flash). Might work for matches without a long time to prepare for a specific opponent - but the opponents in this group will have had enough time to prepare and they'll abuse Flash's predictability, if he has not changed since... lets say MLG.

They said that about 14cc in BW too.
Look how that turned out..
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
April 18 2013 09:22 GMT
#48
On April 18 2013 18:05 LighT. wrote:
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On April 18 2013 17:40 Swisslink wrote:
Dunno, but the way Flash played in the tournaments I saw, I think his playstyle is too predictable (I have to admit, I haven't seen that many matches of Flash). Might work for matches without a long time to prepare for a specific opponent - but the opponents in this group will have had enough time to prepare and they'll abuse Flash's predictability, if he has not changed since... lets say MLG.

They said that about 14cc in BW too.
Look how that turned out..


But Flash's game-sense in SC2 is far below his level in BW. I agree that he might do incredibly well in the future, but right now I see him as... A good player, with insane macro and Multitasking, who's getting punished over and over again because he's too predictable :-P
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
April 18 2013 09:57 GMT
#49
90% sure Flash will advance
jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
April 18 2013 11:12 GMT
#50
u still CANT compare bw and sc2, never ever will u can compare it...sc2 is just still so random and u can get every 3th game buildloses. thats what flash did at the begining with his fast cc over and over again.
btw flash literaly destroyed bbong, very very aggresive. i like it. waiting for soulkey!
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shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
April 18 2013 11:55 GMT
#51
Flash always maxed out lol. GG! 2-0
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jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
April 18 2013 12:02 GMT
#52
wow that mm pressure from flash...kill zerg at t2.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
April 18 2013 12:43 GMT
#53
Flash is kicking ass!
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 14:30:08
April 18 2013 14:28 GMT
#54
The first 2 games between Maru and Soulkey were amazing. I honestly think Maru showed better skill than even Flash in that first game. His multitasking and micro were unreal, and he still almost won despite being way behind from the start.
Empedocles
Profile Joined April 2013
United States47 Posts
April 18 2013 15:09 GMT
#55
I cant stand terran but i love to watch Flash, usually i root for zerg but i gotta go with Flash on this one!
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zEEzz
Profile Joined October 2012
93 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 15:41:16
April 18 2013 15:32 GMT
#56
"but there have been brief flashes of Maru brilliance that makes you believe he can be at the same level of Creator and maybe even Life. His micro, at times, is out of this world, even better than his teammate MarineKing's."

hard to read something like this... you want to hype the player to make it more enjoyable for the viewers, but those kind of comparisons are so silly... Maru yes is a great player but no, he's not at that level of Life and Creator. just a miracle or 2 (i mean 4) really unorthodox games could allow him go through this

edit: lol already happened
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 15:57:23
April 18 2013 15:57 GMT
#57
On April 18 2013 12:24 Seeker wrote:
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On April 18 2013 09:00 Zenbrez wrote:
SEEKER

Sup?


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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 18 2013 16:38 GMT
#58
On April 19 2013 00:32 zEEzz wrote:
"but there have been brief flashes of Maru brilliance that makes you believe he can be at the same level of Creator and maybe even Life. His micro, at times, is out of this world, even better than his teammate MarineKing's."

hard to read something like this... you want to hype the player to make it more enjoyable for the viewers, but those kind of comparisons are so silly... Maru yes is a great player but no, he's not at that level of Life and Creator. just a miracle or 2 (i mean 4) really unorthodox games could allow him go through this

edit: lol already happened


I would argue that Maru can be at the level of Creator, perhaps Life. He's just, like other Prime terrans, so wildly inconsistent that he can never put together a string of good games. Today, he showcased absolutely brilliant play in one game, only to lose by playing like a different player entirely in the final match a few hours later. Unlike Creator and Life, Maru rarely lives up to his potential, and you have to be around those rare times to actually appreciate the truth in that statement.
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 16:41:54
April 18 2013 16:39 GMT
#59
On April 19 2013 00:32 zEEzz wrote:
"but there have been brief flashes of Maru brilliance that makes you believe he can be at the same level of Creator and maybe even Life. His micro, at times, is out of this world, even better than his teammate MarineKing's."

hard to read something like this... you want to hype the player to make it more enjoyable for the viewers, but those kind of comparisons are so silly... Maru yes is a great player but no, he's not at that level of Life and Creator. just a miracle or 2 (i mean 4) really unorthodox games could allow him go through this

edit: lol already happened


You must have not watched the same Maru I just watched. Even though he lost that first game vs Soulkey, he showcased basically the best micro I've seen in sc2 yet, no matter how big or small his army was. Even more impressive, his multitasking never failed once despite him literally always having at least 1 drop going at all times.

He was everywhere at once, trading blow for blow with Soulkey, outmicroing him all game long, and if he hadn't been hugely crippled from that early game roach timing then he would have won that game almost certainly. Not to mention his proxy reaper rush in game 2 was basically flawless. I don't think that could have been executed any better.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
April 18 2013 16:40 GMT
#60
On April 18 2013 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
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On April 18 2013 08:27 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
No interviews this time? :/


I hear if you say Seeker's name once, he appears


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Where dat snitch at?37063 Posts
April 18 2013 18:41 GMT
#61
On April 19 2013 01:40 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
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On April 18 2013 08:56 Waxangel wrote:
On April 18 2013 08:27 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
No interviews this time? :/


I hear if you say Seeker's name once, he appears


I always thought this actually worked, but now i'm sad

I said sup earlier :o
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zEEzz
Profile Joined October 2012
93 Posts
April 18 2013 18:54 GMT
#62
On April 19 2013 01:38 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:32 zEEzz wrote:
"but there have been brief flashes of Maru brilliance that makes you believe he can be at the same level of Creator and maybe even Life. His micro, at times, is out of this world, even better than his teammate MarineKing's."

hard to read something like this... you want to hype the player to make it more enjoyable for the viewers, but those kind of comparisons are so silly... Maru yes is a great player but no, he's not at that level of Life and Creator. just a miracle or 2 (i mean 4) really unorthodox games could allow him go through this

edit: lol already happened


I would argue that Maru can be at the level of Creator, perhaps Life. He's just, like other Prime terrans, so wildly inconsistent that he can never put together a string of good games. Today, he showcased absolutely brilliant play in one game, only to lose by playing like a different player entirely in the final match a few hours later. Unlike Creator and Life, Maru rarely lives up to his potential, and you have to be around those rare times to actually appreciate the truth in that statement.


ow yeah buddy i agree with you.. the problem isn't in his potential.. he can be like life/creator and surpass his prime king comrade (which might happen earlier)

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