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[Code S] Ro32 Final Day Preview/Group G Recap (S4)

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September 12th, 2012 22:56 GMT
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Code S Ro32: Group G Recap


By: Porcelina

Results from Live Report Thread by opterown.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
NesTea vs. Life
(Z)NesTea <Daybreak> (Z)Life
(Z)NesTea <Antiga Shipyard> (Z)Life
(Z)NesTea <> (Z)Life

(Z)Life wins 2-0!

JYP vs. SuperNova
(P)JYP <Abyssal City> (T)SuperNova
(P)JYP <Entombed Valley> (T)SuperNova
(P)JYP <> (T)SuperNova

(P)JYP wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(Z)Life <Ohana> (P)JYP
(Z)Life <Entombed Valley> (P)JYP
(Z)Life <> (P)JYP

(Z)Life wins 2-0!

Losers' Match
(Z)NesTea <Ohana> (T)SuperNova
(Z)NesTea <Whirlwind> (T)SuperNova
(Z)NesTea <> (T)SuperNova

(T)SuperNova wins 2-0!

Final Match
(P)JYP <Antiga Shipyard> (T)SuperNova
(P)JYP <Daybreak> (T)SuperNova
(P)JYP <Entombed Valley> (T)SuperNova

(P)JYP wins 2-1!



(Z)Life and (P)JYP advance to Code S RO16!


Life Goes On
– (Z)ST_Life advances as the only undefeated player in seven Code S groups.


ST_Life kept his royal road dreams alive in Code S, joining the less-expected royal road candidate (T)coL.Heart in the Ro16. On his way, he dispatched of (Z)LG-IM_NesTea and (P)EG.JYPRC in a full showcase of his skills – showing his ZvZ prowess against Nestea while being both creative and resilient against JYP.

Coming into the group with absurd ZvZ stats that are bound to regress to the mean, Life showed that he was simply, fundamentally good at the match-up in his initial series against Nestea. Using a style that bore resemblance to DongRaeGu vs. Effort in WCS Korea, he took two games where he won on the strength of superior mechanics. In the first game he showed superior macro, micro and decision making in a ling-bane dogfight, while in the second game, he showed that he had wonderful game sense by playing mutas into roach-infestor perfectly.

In the winners match against JYP, Life faced a tough challenge in a strong PvZ player. In the first game on Ohana, he refused to fall to the customary two base all-in, opting for a rare two-base roach-ling-infestor opener instead. JYP seemed thrown off by these tactics, and ended up falling to relentless attacks from Life. In the next game, Life had an opportunity to become the only 4 - 0 group winner in the Ro32, and he grasped that honor with panache. In almost miraculous fashion, he was able to hold off a six gate attack after his first hatchery had died to a cannon rush. Somehow, Life had just enough production to deflect JYP’s near all-in, pulling drones setting up flanks in a prolonged defense until he finally stabilized. Through the midgame, Life continuously pressured with nydus networks, overlord drops and infestor harass, while JYP repaid the favor in turn with constant warp-prism harass. In the end, Life was able to seal his 4-0 record in the group with the typical Zerg late game composition of brood lords and infestors, completely overrunning an opponent he had run ragged.

In a season where the heroes of 2011 seem to be falling left and right, Life is one of the most exciting players rising up to take their places. He is notoriously difficult to prepare for, his style unorthodox and his build order selection diverse. In a time where the ever solid-looking Curious tells the world he has to expand his repertoire in order to stay competitive, Life is an interesting counterpart. In a tournament where preparation is an integral part of a player’s success or demise, I doubt many Code S regulars will relish trying to map out how Life plays. It will be fascinating to see whether Life will decide to tailor his play to his opponents, continue on as Life: unpredictable, brilliant and iconoclastic in pursuit of his royal road.

(P)JYP versus Terran x2 = Advancement
– (P)EG.JYPRC takes second place winning twice in his weakest matchup.


The only other time JYP was in Code S, he lost to a Terran with cheesy tendencies before being knocked out by a Zerg icon. Back in Season 1, those two players were sC and DRG. This season, it looked like his itinerary could look similar indeed, with (T)mTw.SuperNova in the first match and (Z)NesTea in the second. However, history would not repeat itself as the EG Protoss was able to take his former weakness – JYPvT – and turn it on its head.

Going up against Supernova, one had to worry for JYP. While seldom looking outclassed in his PvT, his win rate in the 20's meant that he almost always found a way to second guess himself and lose. Supernova had a reputation for making short work of such foes, capable of bringing a variety of two-base all-ins that required a Protoss player's full concentration to stop. Not surprisingly, the mTw player’s first strategy of the day was a tank backed two base all-in. But whereas JYP had fallen to such strategies before, this time would prove different – he bided his time, waited until he had just the right composition, and killed the Terran army to win the game. In the second game, he found himself way behind in a macro game, but through good high templar use, patience, and good battle selection, he was able to turn the game in his favor and win in the end.

After missing out on a chance to reach the Ro16 against Life in his best match-up, JYP's continued existence in Code S would be decided in a rematch with Supernova (who had crushed Nestea in the losers match). He started out shakily, going down in a rather predictable fashion on Antiga. He failed to put pressure on early as Supernova played greedily, then failed to hold his third when the Terran player’s economy kicked in. JYP's primary trick in the game was dark templar harassment, which while effective, ultimately could not stand in the way of SuperNoVa's four-base macro machine.

Despite having won a macro game against SuperNoVa in the previous series, JYP decided that there must be a more convenient way out. Surmising that his opponent would go for a CC first build on Daybreak, JYP really took advantage of the opponent’s greed with a proxy-gate build to quickly even up the score at 1 - 1. That set up an interesting mind-game in the deciding match on Entombed Valley, where SuperNoVa decided that it would be alright to play greedy one more time. Unfortunate for him, JYP had no qualms about punishing greed a second time, using a 6-gate all-in to send SuperNoVa down to Code A.

The outcome of the group was unexpected, not because JYP advanced, but rather because he did it through two PvTs. If he keeps showing this kind of form in the future, his stock is sure to rise. Upon further reflection, one of the deciding factors of JYP moving on to the round of sixteen is that he seemed to have discovered a previously absent sense of self-assurance. His read on Supernova in the last two games of the day showed a player who was confident in his assessments, and had the mental fortitude to go all-in without hesitation. Instead letting himself be played by his opponent, he was the aggressor and the one exploiting identifiable flaws.

The round of sixteen will test JYP further. It is difficult to imagine a Terran player turning down an opportunity to pick him; we could even see the strange match-up of Heart vs. JYP. His PvT is not magically fixed because he came out of this group, but he looks much stronger than before and shouldn't be an automatic pick for any Terran player. Ultimately, JYP will undoubtedly relish the opportunity to shine in Code S. If anything, he has shown dedication to both figuring out his opponents and himself, which will go a long way to propelling him from a player of unquestionable potential into a mainstay in Code S.

The Fallen.
– (Z)NesTea and (T)SuperNova, the two most experienced players in Code S, both fall to Code A.


To be blunt, Nestea continued his decline. He again lost to a mechanically more gifted player in ZvZ and failed to make any sort of good impression in ZvT. After losing to Life in his initial match, Nestea looked very poor as he lost 0 - 2 to SuperNoVa as well. One game saw him go for laughably ineffectual drop play against SuperNoVa's mech, while the second game saw his muta-ling-bane play get crushed in all too familiar fashion by an efficient bio army.

It remains to be seen whether Nestea can rise from the ashes. In his current form, it's doubtful that he can make it out of Code A or the Up/Downs. However, his history and character should allow him time to refocus and figure out how to solve his current issues.

Whereas Nestea did not look like Nestea at all, Supernova looked decidedly like Supernova. Unfortunately for him, it was the Supernova who looked slightly disinterested, quite sloppy at times and not all there. He was able to easily win in TvZ, but didn't look like he was 100% in all five games against JYP. He has always been a player that can look amazing against the best but horrible against the worst. While he did not look truly horrible and JYP is definitely not a bad player to lose to, it was one of those days where Supernova failed to play to his ability. With the Nestea Award now hinging on him either making a run in Code A or making it out of what will probably be an insane Up and Down group (including KeSPA players this time around), he will regret a lost opportunity in Group G.

Wacky facts.

  1. This is the first time Nestea has finished last (4th) in a Code S group, his previous finishes are 1-3-2-1-2-1-2-1-3-1.
  2. Supernova has finished third once before, his results are 1-3-4-2-4-1-1-1.
  3. Nestea is 0-1 in matches in Code A, 0-2 in games.
  4. Supernova is 8-1 in Code A, 19-5 in games.
  5. In his five games against Supernova, JYP proxied his fifth pylon in the first three. The fourth game he won before making it and in the fifth game he proxied his fourth.
  6. Group G was the first group where both players advancing had never made it past the first stage of Code S.
  7. Life was the first player advancing with a perfect score.
  8. Life is the only potential royal roader currently in Code S with a perfect match record.
  9. Nestea may or may not have thought that the GSL was a golf tournament, wanting as low a score as possible. Truly, only an individual such as Nestea would be able to finish his play with zero strokes.

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Code S Ro32: Group H Preview


By: Fionn


Group H: (Z)MVPDongRaeGu, (T)ST_Bomber, (T)TSL_Polt, (T)FXOGuMiho

(Z)MVPDongRaeGu vs. (T)ST_Bomber

These two were in a Code S group all the way back in Code S November of 2011. Back then, it was a time when people still expected both of these players to win titles in the near future. Bomber's hype had started earlier, and when he had swept through Code A to arrive on the scene, while DRG was then entering his second Code S season after building very impressive credentials in international competition and in the GSTL. In a shock to both, neither player was able to advance out of the first round of Code S, falling in upsets to Gumiho and Happy.

Luckily for DongRaeGu, he would return to form right away in December's Blizzard Cup, becoming a part of possibly the greatest Starcraft II final against MMA. Then, just a few months after that, he went on to take his first GSL championship against Genius in 2012's Code S Season One. His sour ending to Code S November was quickly forgotten, and many hailed him as the best player in the world.

Bomber went down a different road. Following his quick exit from the November season, he got beaten down in another upset by Inca and Curious in the first round of the same Code S tournament DongRaeGu would go on to win. That would be the last time we saw Bomber in Code S until now, as he's been wandering aimlessly between Code A and the Up/Down matches, never showing the same skills that made people believe he was going to become a future GSL champion.

Recently, DongRaeGu has been on the worst slide of his career, starting when he got beat by MC in the previous Code S semifinals, losing out on an opportunity to play in the Code S finals in his hometown of Busan. After that, he's racked up loss after big loss. He failed to qualify for WCG Korea when he was stopped by Polt, lost another heartbreaking game to Leenock in the ace match of the GSTL semifinals, and even getting eliminated right off the bat in WCS Korea from the one two punch of Creator (the eventual winner) and Effort from CJ Entus. DRG was at least able to pick up a win against Jangbi in OSL (who was one of the worst players among the 16), but followed that up by losing to the best player KeSPA has to offer SKT T1's By.Rain.

Bomber is slowly going the other way, though his recovery is nowhere as dramatic as DongRaeGu's decline. He got through the Up/Down matches in first place with wins over jjakji, Keen and Mana, but that doesn't mean he is officially 'back' and should be counted on to make his first Ro16 appearance in over a year. But it's a good sign as he comes into a Code S group with three other players who are incredibly strong when on their right day, but not always consistent in their play. With DongRaeGu not having had a right day in months, Bomber now has a legit shot of knocking off DRG and making his slump continue on for a bit longer.

Still, if we've learned anything about Bomber and DRG since they both came into prominence in the middle of 2011, you can never bet on Bomber, and you can never bet against DongRaeGu. You can show the statistics of how bad DRG has been lately, but there is a reason why he's a GSTL and GSL champion, and Bomber is the player known for never living up to his potential. The removal of Atlantis Spaceship and Metropolis is a good sign for all three Terran who will be going up versus DongRaeGu on the night, but with four Zerg having already advanced in the first seven groups, it hasn't been as bad as once thought when looking at the map pool.

Prediction: DRG 2 > 1 Bomber


(T)TSL_Polt vs. (T)FXOGuMiho

Now that we're done speaking of the slumps and inconsistencies of the first two players, you have to admit that those are similar themes for the other two players in the group, Polt and Gumiho. Heading into WCS Korea, there was a strong case for both that they were the 2nd and 3rd best Terran in the world behind Taeja. Polt after the first two rounds of WCS Korea was holding a 25-8 record in the summer, beating big name players like DongRaeGu, Mvp, and Hyun, while also advancing through three straight rounds of Code A to get back into Code S. Then, with a 0 - 2 loss to Seed in the winner's quarterfinals of WCS KR, the wheels started to come off the Polt Express. He then lost to HerO in another 0 - 2, and suffered a disappointing 1-2 loss to Miya that knocked him out of the running for WCS Asia completely. Even in WCG Korea, he had the door shut on him, as he went 1 - 2 against Yonghwa in the Ro16, in games where Polt didn't look like he was at his best.

In Gumiho's case, his stock had never been higher after he came off his all-kill of SlayerS-EG in the GSTL finals. He had as much moment as Polt going into WCS Korea, but similarly, it was where he started to falter. Like Polt, Gumiho fell to Seed in WCS Korea, following that up with a shocking loss to CJ's Effort in his first defeat to a KeSPA player. In the GSL, he was stopped by Squirtle in the final round of Code A, but got his spot in this season's Code S tournament with a decent effort in his Up/Down group, going 2-1 and only losing to Sniper.

Gumiho is a player who has changed a lot in the last year. He has gone from a player that people expected nothing from, to a player that has shown us some of the best games we've seen all year. That means that he can no longer expect to lose in the Ro32 and be given an out. We know he has the skills to go into the quarterfinals and higher, and people are expecting him to get further than the first round.

In terms of TvT, both have shown strong play lately. Gumiho, of course, has his instant classic game against MMA on the first map in the GSTL Finals, barely inching out the Slayers champion and gaining his first win on the road to his all-kill that would include another TvT win over Ryung. Polt recently beat Maru 2-1 in Code A and Mvp 2-1 in WCS Korea, giving him some good momentum in the match-up going into a group with two other strong Terrans.

They are both champions in Korea. Polt with his GSL Super Tournament victory last summer, and Gumiho with his all-kill of Slayers for the GSTL championship with his FXO teammates. Both would be disappointed with an exit before the Ro8, as they have the skills to get as far as the finals if they can play consistently.

Prediction: Polt 2 > 1 Gumiho


Winners Match and Beyond:

It doesn't really matter who advances to play against DRG in the winners or losers match. Gumiho and Polt are both fully capable of beating him in his current state, and even if he plays at his absolute best, he will have a toughh fight on his hand against two of the better TvZ Terrans in the world. DongRaeGu beat Gumiho in a comeback during the GSL semifinals of his championship season back in January, but Gumiho's hectic drop style and relentless aggression was a style that pushed DRG to the brink even when he was at the very top of his game. Against Polt, DongRaeGu has lost his last two series against the TSL captain, 1-2 during MLG Spring Arena and more recently at the WCG Korea, going 0-2 in a one sided stomp. We all know that if DRG can recapture his form of the Blizzard Cup/Code S Season One 2012, that he can get through this group 4-0/4-1 and roll towards another final. But can he get back to that level?

For the three Terrans, just like DRG, it all depends on their form. Polt looked to be in the best condition, having one of the best offline Korean records of the summer, but that was followed up with a 2-8 record in his past ten offline games. Gumiho had his huge GSTL all-kill to help his team win the championship, but he didn't do so hot in WCS Korea, and he only got second place in his Up/Down group. With Bomber, you don't even have to name all the number of times people have picked him to do well, only for him to regress back from championship form to Code B-omber mode.

This is the only group this season where you would not be surprised to see any combination in the standings. Would you be shocked to see the slumping DRG place 4th in the group and Bomber, who is showing signs of life, continue his comeback with a 1st place finish? Would your jaw drop if the opposite happened with DRG destroying everyone and Bomber disappointing again? All four players are amazing when they're at their absolute best, but they all have reasons why they could be the 4th place player in this group at the end of the night.

Predictions:

DongRaeGu > Bomber
Polt > Gumiho
Polt > DongRaeGu
Gumiho > Bomber
DongRaeGu > Gumiho

Polt and DRG advance




Writer: Fionn and Porcelina.
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Editor: Waxangel.
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InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
September 12 2012 23:04 GMT
#2
"Nestea is the first former GSL winner to finish last in his group since DRG did the same in Season 2 – he then came back to win Season 3."

Worded incorrectly I feel.
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 12 2012 23:06 GMT
#3
Go Bomber! I believe! I probably shouldn't anymore, but I do!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28086 Posts
September 12 2012 23:08 GMT
#4
The pic on the front page is awesome. haha
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#5
wtf JYPvT prevails? TWICE?!
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 12 2012 23:13 GMT
#6
Yes!! JYP!

HYP :D

A bit surprised to see him advance, I have to admit, but heck yes!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
bropedo
Profile Joined April 2012
United States89 Posts
September 12 2012 23:13 GMT
#7
gogo bomber/drg
!!
Gogo Terran: MKP ByuN || Toss: Parting Rain || Zerg: Life HyuN
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
September 12 2012 23:20 GMT
#8
life amazing player
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SuperEight
Profile Joined December 2011
United States333 Posts
September 12 2012 23:26 GMT
#9
I really hope Polt and DRG advance! I think the games will be great no matter what.
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kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
September 12 2012 23:33 GMT
#10
Hmmm... Ima have to go with GuMiho first, DRG second.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
September 12 2012 23:34 GMT
#11
Very tough group to call. Gotta go with Polt and Gumiho here I think.
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sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
September 12 2012 23:35 GMT
#12
Bomber>DRG
Gumiho>Polt
Bomber>Gumiho
DRG>Polt
Gumiho>DRG
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
September 12 2012 23:44 GMT
#13
DRg as first. I SHALL Demand to change predictions :D
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
September 12 2012 23:46 GMT
#14
I hope DRG shows amazing games tomorrow, Life is gaining on you son.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
September 12 2012 23:53 GMT
#15
On September 13 2012 08:46 WArped wrote:
I hope DRG shows amazing games tomorrow, Life is gaining on you son.

meanwhile i think curious, leenock and maybe even violet/stephano have overtaken drg, haha
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hkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia354 Posts
September 13 2012 00:07 GMT
#16
NesTea nooooooo remake the universe, quick!
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
September 13 2012 00:08 GMT
#17
On September 13 2012 08:46 WArped wrote:
I hope DRG shows amazing games tomorrow, Life is gaining on you son.


I think DRG got too cocky too fast after his flurry of successes earlier this year and well, as we can see from EG, complacency is a real killer. He even stated that he doesn't practice that much (could be a PR stunt like Stephano but who knows for sure).

Zerg players just seem really lazy for some reason
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1054 Posts
September 13 2012 00:09 GMT
#18
Damn, JYP must be feeling the EG curse. He's so badly cursed that he even lost his identity as a PvT scrub.
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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 00:12:14
September 13 2012 00:11 GMT
#19
DongRaeGu > Bomber
Gumiho > Polt
DongRaeGu > Gumiho
Polt > Bomber
Gumiho > Polt

DRG and Gumiho advance.

During DRG's "slump", hes essentially only played Protoss (except 1 game against Terran, 1 against Zerg). Symbol said that hes scared of playing Protoss on ladder so I imagine many Z's are having trouble ZvP. Luckily, after his match vs. Rain, all hes had to focus on his ZvT because his group is all Terran, his OSL match is against MKP and his NASL match is against Alive.
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Antimatterz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1010 Posts
September 13 2012 00:26 GMT
#20
All I want is for NesTea to come back. He is literally the reason I like zerg so much. His play when he was at this prime was just so inspiring, made you feel like anything was possible if you knew enough about the game.
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JuiceBoxHero
Profile Joined January 2011
117 Posts
September 13 2012 00:36 GMT
#21
Just watched those games, so mad at JYP right now.
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
September 13 2012 00:38 GMT
#22
On September 13 2012 09:11 TommyP wrote:
DongRaeGu > Bomber
Gumiho > Polt
DongRaeGu > Gumiho
Polt > Bomber
Gumiho > Polt

DRG and Gumiho advance.

During DRG's "slump", hes essentially only played Protoss (except 1 game against Terran, 1 against Zerg). Symbol said that hes scared of playing Protoss on ladder so I imagine many Z's are having trouble ZvP. Luckily, after his match vs. Rain, all hes had to focus on his ZvT because his group is all Terran, his OSL match is against MKP and his NASL match is against Alive.


Agree with this man.

DRG!!!
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Gatesleeper
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada300 Posts
September 13 2012 00:42 GMT
#23
I dunno man, Bomber looked pretty hot in The Trials of the Xel Naga :3
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
September 13 2012 00:44 GMT
#24
On September 13 2012 09:36 JuiceBoxHero wrote:
Just watched those games, so mad at JYP right now.

y?
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
September 13 2012 00:50 GMT
#25
DRG & Bomber plzzzz~
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 13 2012 00:55 GMT
#26
I don't know what I will do if DRG loses

DRG v Bomber
Polt v Gumiho
DRG v Gumiho
Polt v Bomber
Gumiho v Bomber

no Protoss for DRG. Great for him because beating Protoss as Zerg these days seems to be impossible in Korea these days.

I think this may be Bomber's chance but I don't know that much about the other 3's TvT so I just rolled a dice :p
Life: The New Champion!!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
September 13 2012 01:14 GMT
#27
First off cant believe JYP beat Supa twice!
Secondly for like the first time ever I completely agree with Wax o.O
except Bomber beat Gumiho
Anyway DRG Polt will be such an amazing match...which I had gsl ticket
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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 13 2012 01:25 GMT
#28
On September 13 2012 10:14 Cricketer12 wrote:
First off cant believe JYP beat Supa twice!
Secondly for like the first time ever I completely agree with Wax o.O
except Bomber beat Gumiho
Anyway DRG Polt will be such an amazing match...which I had gsl ticket


Fionn wrote the preview this time around.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
September 13 2012 01:32 GMT
#29
Damn it, where is the bomber love?
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
September 13 2012 01:37 GMT
#30
On September 13 2012 08:06 Sumahi wrote:
Go Bomber! I believe! I probably shouldn't anymore, but I do!


My feelings exactly haha. I picked Bomber and DRG knowing I will likely be disappointed, but oh well. Bomber has to win some time... right?
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bluemary
Profile Joined August 2012
China2 Posts
September 13 2012 01:40 GMT
#31
i like wacky facts
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
September 13 2012 01:57 GMT
#32
Sad for Nestea :<
AKMU / IU
LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
September 13 2012 02:11 GMT
#33
want bomber to win like everyone else, but don't expect him to like everyone else, but still liquibet him like everyone else.

but.......

bomber > drg
polt > gumi
polt > bomber
gumi > drg
gumi > bomber

gumi and polt advance
hmm... let's think about it
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
September 13 2012 02:13 GMT
#34
Hopefully, NesTea will make it through Code A or else I see him retire soon.

SuperNoVa better make it, too, or else he will not be the second player to be rewarded the NesTea Award for staying in Code S 10 consecutive seasons. This season is his 9th.

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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 13 2012 02:34 GMT
#35
I'm hoping for Polt / Gumiho, but unlikely both make it.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Zenniv
Profile Joined September 2011
United States545 Posts
September 13 2012 02:38 GMT
#36
DRG v Bomber
Polt v Gumiho
DRG v Gumiho
Polt v DRG
DRG v Bomber

Gumiho & DRG
Chengakz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States163 Posts
September 13 2012 02:49 GMT
#37
Ah alas retirement may be near for Nestea...even the greats lay dow their sword at a certain age. But no doubt he should be in the SC Hall of Fame.
For Aiur!
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
September 13 2012 03:03 GMT
#38
On the front page isn't it spelled "vie" not "vye"?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 13 2012 03:06 GMT
#39
To be blunt, Nestea continued his decline. He again lost to a mechanically more gifted player in ZvZ and failed to make any sort of good impression in ZvT. After losing to Life in his initial match, Nestea looked very poor as he lost 0 - 2 to SuperNoVa as well. One game saw him go for laughably ineffectual drop play against SuperNoVa's mech, while the second game saw his muta-ling-bane play get crushed in all too familiar fashion by an efficient bio army.


Laughable works well here, because I was actually laughing when I saw that.
KJDog
Profile Joined February 2012
United States164 Posts
September 13 2012 03:06 GMT
#40
Bomber > DRG
Polt > Gumiho
Polt > Bomber
Gumiho > DRG
Bomber > Gumiho

Polt & Bomber
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 13 2012 03:12 GMT
#41
On September 13 2012 12:06 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
To be blunt, Nestea continued his decline. He again lost to a mechanically more gifted player in ZvZ and failed to make any sort of good impression in ZvT. After losing to Life in his initial match, Nestea looked very poor as he lost 0 - 2 to SuperNoVa as well. One game saw him go for laughably ineffectual drop play against SuperNoVa's mech, while the second game saw his muta-ling-bane play get crushed in all too familiar fashion by an efficient bio army.


Laughable works well here, because I was actually laughing when I saw that.

No Dodgin you changed your team icon!! why?!!!!
#TheOneTrueDong
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 13 2012 03:14 GMT
#42
On September 13 2012 12:12 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 12:06 Dodgin wrote:
To be blunt, Nestea continued his decline. He again lost to a mechanically more gifted player in ZvZ and failed to make any sort of good impression in ZvT. After losing to Life in his initial match, Nestea looked very poor as he lost 0 - 2 to SuperNoVa as well. One game saw him go for laughably ineffectual drop play against SuperNoVa's mech, while the second game saw his muta-ling-bane play get crushed in all too familiar fashion by an efficient bio army.


Laughable works well here, because I was actually laughing when I saw that.

No Dodgin you changed your team icon!! why?!!!!


T1 for life yo
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 13 2012 03:16 GMT
#43
On September 13 2012 12:14 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 12:12 TommyP wrote:
On September 13 2012 12:06 Dodgin wrote:
To be blunt, Nestea continued his decline. He again lost to a mechanically more gifted player in ZvZ and failed to make any sort of good impression in ZvT. After losing to Life in his initial match, Nestea looked very poor as he lost 0 - 2 to SuperNoVa as well. One game saw him go for laughably ineffectual drop play against SuperNoVa's mech, while the second game saw his muta-ling-bane play get crushed in all too familiar fashion by an efficient bio army.


Laughable works well here, because I was actually laughing when I saw that.

No Dodgin you changed your team icon!! why?!!!!


T1 for life yo

Noooo MVP!! You shouldnt have changed.... and i thought we were friends =[
#TheOneTrueDong
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 13 2012 03:16 GMT
#44
On September 13 2012 12:16 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 12:14 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 12:12 TommyP wrote:
On September 13 2012 12:06 Dodgin wrote:
To be blunt, Nestea continued his decline. He again lost to a mechanically more gifted player in ZvZ and failed to make any sort of good impression in ZvT. After losing to Life in his initial match, Nestea looked very poor as he lost 0 - 2 to SuperNoVa as well. One game saw him go for laughably ineffectual drop play against SuperNoVa's mech, while the second game saw his muta-ling-bane play get crushed in all too familiar fashion by an efficient bio army.


Laughable works well here, because I was actually laughing when I saw that.

No Dodgin you changed your team icon!! why?!!!!


T1 for life yo

Noooo MVP!! You shouldnt have changed.... and i thought we were friends =[


I'm not sure I ever had team MVP as my icon ;o it was T1 until they added the sc2 icons, then IM for like two weeks and then back to SKT.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 03:18:28
September 13 2012 03:17 GMT
#45
On September 13 2012 12:16 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 12:16 TommyP wrote:
On September 13 2012 12:14 Dodgin wrote:
On September 13 2012 12:12 TommyP wrote:
On September 13 2012 12:06 Dodgin wrote:
To be blunt, Nestea continued his decline. He again lost to a mechanically more gifted player in ZvZ and failed to make any sort of good impression in ZvT. After losing to Life in his initial match, Nestea looked very poor as he lost 0 - 2 to SuperNoVa as well. One game saw him go for laughably ineffectual drop play against SuperNoVa's mech, while the second game saw his muta-ling-bane play get crushed in all too familiar fashion by an efficient bio army.


Laughable works well here, because I was actually laughing when I saw that.

No Dodgin you changed your team icon!! why?!!!!


T1 for life yo

Noooo MVP!! You shouldnt have changed.... and i thought we were friends =[


I'm not sure I ever had team MVP as my icon ;o it was T1 until they added the sc2 icons, then IM for like two weeks and then back to SKT.

oh lol i must be thinking of someone else then my bad. Now i feel stupid.

Went through the pages. Was thinking of Doubting
#TheOneTrueDong
GhostTK
Profile Joined April 2011
United States26 Posts
September 13 2012 03:27 GMT
#46
Um jyp Cheesed in g2 against supernova and the 3rd game supernova lost to a bust. what is this article talking aobut when it says that through good templar use coming bacc from behind.

User was warned for this post
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hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
September 13 2012 03:33 GMT
#47
Gogogo Polt and Bomber, the mid 2011 sidekicks to Mvp's Terran throne!
Mvp fanboy
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
September 13 2012 03:33 GMT
#48
This is the only group this season where you would not be surprised to see any combination in the standings. Would you be shocked to see the slumping DRG place 4th in the group and Bomber, who is showing signs of life, continue his comeback with a 1st place finish? Would your jaw drop if the opposite happened with DRG destroying everyone and Bomber disappointing again? All four players are amazing when they're at their absolute best, but they all have reasons why they could be the 4th place player in this group at the end of the night.


Could not have said it better. Totally agree.

In the end, my money's on Polt and Gumiho but I would be thrilled if Bomber/DRG came out of the group because it would show they are back to their championship caliber.

My one question for everyone is.... What happens if all players play at their best? Who wins then?
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
September 13 2012 03:44 GMT
#49
If DRG doesn't get out of this group I'll be so disappointed. DRG is the best player in the world, he just has to start playing like he is again.
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
September 13 2012 03:46 GMT
#50
On September 13 2012 12:33 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
This is the only group this season where you would not be surprised to see any combination in the standings. Would you be shocked to see the slumping DRG place 4th in the group and Bomber, who is showing signs of life, continue his comeback with a 1st place finish? Would your jaw drop if the opposite happened with DRG destroying everyone and Bomber disappointing again? All four players are amazing when they're at their absolute best, but they all have reasons why they could be the 4th place player in this group at the end of the night.

My one question for everyone is.... What happens if all players play at their best? Who wins then?


~_~ my brain hurts just from thinking

has to be DRG(1 matchup?) and paper-rock-scissors-siegetank for the 2nd spot? :D
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 03:53:37
September 13 2012 03:50 GMT
#51
Sad to see a grizzled veteran like Nestea fall from grace. As one of the last members of the old guard it makes one wonder if we are seeing the beginning of the second age of StarCraft, an age where new legends are born.

My one question for everyone is.... What happens if all players play at their best? Who wins then?

You get a <RESULTS DISAGREE!> error.
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
September 13 2012 04:04 GMT
#52
Polt and gumiho make it out. Maybe bomber gumiho but no way DRG makes it
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xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
September 13 2012 04:05 GMT
#53
On September 13 2012 11:38 Zenniv wrote:
DRG v Bomber
Polt v Gumiho
DRG v Gumiho
Polt v DRG
DRG v Bomber

Gumiho & DRG

this except for the typo...
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arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
September 13 2012 04:10 GMT
#54
I would love to see bomber and DRG advance.
desarrisc
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Canada226 Posts
September 13 2012 04:43 GMT
#55
The question is:
Is DRG ready to kick some ass? (Yes.)
Is Bomber on his good day? (Maybe.)

DRG & Polt make it to next round, if Bomber's on his bad day.
DRG & Bomber otherwise.
"Your opponent's doing anything out of the ordinary? Just go f**king kill him." -Day [9]
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 13 2012 04:53 GMT
#56
please win DRG!!
for us fans
for yourself
T_T
moo...for DRG
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
September 13 2012 05:36 GMT
#57
DRG>Bomber
Polt>Gumiho
Polt>DRG
Gumiho>Bomber
DRG>Gumiho
Polt & DRG advance.
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
September 13 2012 05:50 GMT
#58
predicting gumiho bomber or gumiho polt
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
September 13 2012 05:57 GMT
#59
bomber I WANT TO BELIEVE!
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Soyuz
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong996 Posts
September 13 2012 06:16 GMT
#60
really cool facts!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 13 2012 06:49 GMT
#61
I made the same prediction here, with DRG/Polt, but it's so hard to predict which level we'll see anyone playing at today.
markrevival
Profile Joined January 2012
United States222 Posts
September 13 2012 06:51 GMT
#62
I've been wanting Life in Code S for so long. Am HAPPY
hli
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada32 Posts
September 13 2012 07:02 GMT
#63
Omg why all the best terrans in the world cramped into 1 group? TWICE? taeja-mvp-mma now polt-gumiho-bomber... don't even know how I'm going to be cheering for anyone, they're all so good! Guess I'll just have to settle for watching amazing games!
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 13 2012 07:16 GMT
#64
See a prediction of Polt to advance -> check the author -> yes, it is Fionn.

Thus, Polt does not stand a chance. Dear TL, do you relaly hate Plot so much to let Fionn make predictions on him? )
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 13 2012 07:41 GMT
#65
Lovely write up ^^ Thinking DRG and Gumibear to go through, though really, who the fuck knows whats going to happen in this group?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 13 2012 08:04 GMT
#66
Hope Polt makes it out with DRG or bomber.
Moderatorlickypiddy
RedLeaderDKM
Profile Joined January 2012
United States9 Posts
September 13 2012 08:11 GMT
#67
Well written article! I expect to see GuMiHo make it out
"No matter where you go you will always be there"
Torrathyr
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada95 Posts
September 13 2012 09:06 GMT
#68
DRG, too cool to face the camera.
I've missed Polt so much these past few months, I want him to come back in a big way :D
I'm kinda split on Bomber/DRG, and Gumiho is good at suddenly wrecking face. This will be a great bracket.
Talent < Skill < Practice < Dedication
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 13 2012 10:10 GMT
#69
you can never bet on Bomber, and you can never bet against DongRaeGu


Great line
Wonderful prediction!

Go DRG!!
moo...for DRG
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
September 13 2012 14:14 GMT
#70
Well you predicted the winners right. I'm glad to see DRG and Polt advance though. I honestly feel those two have been in a slump lately, especially DRG, and getting onto Code S Ro16 is a nice confidence boost for them.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 13 2012 21:21 GMT
#71
Polt broke the Fionn curse :D
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