• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:42
CEST 20:42
KST 03:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen Gypsy to Korea How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash ASL21 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2558 users

Power Rank - MLG Summer Edition - Page 4

Forum Index > News
137 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
August 24 2012 09:41 GMT
#61
LOL these lists are so funny every time.
Misacampo
Profile Joined July 2012
167 Posts
August 24 2012 09:46 GMT
#62
On August 24 2012 17:46 Cool G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.


I don't see how listing Marineking's entire career of achievements is relevant to his current form.

It's amusing you give him credit for Prime's victory in GSTL when it was quite clear PartinG was robbed in the final.


Yea... No. It was a disconnect then a regame. Sorta like how the taeja vs nestea game. Gotta love the fanboys with double standards.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 24 2012 09:52 GMT
#63
On August 24 2012 17:36 eNbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.



You'll have to excuse him, odds are he's regurgitating Idra's statements, who seems to have something against MKP.

haha well done
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
August 24 2012 09:57 GMT
#64
Excited to see HerO in this.. And Taeja.. Man oh man, I wouldn't mind a huge liquid tournament! :D
Liquid
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 24 2012 09:58 GMT
#65
"So if Taeja often makes these grievous mistakes, how does he end up with his insane win rates and tournament wins?
That's easy; he is just simply better than everyone else. With unparalleled micro, control and mechanics, in addition to a unique approach to the game, TaeJa stands tall above everyone else and often times, even with these otherwise blunderous game-ending mistakes, TaeJa can still eke out a win against anyone. I'd say that being better than everyone else in the tournament is deserving of the #1 spot."
This is a very bold and arrogant statement, saying that he is better than everyone and that he has the best mechanics and so on. Mvp and Seed are most likely better players than Taeja right now but it's a shame they are not at MLG to prove that.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33584 Posts
August 24 2012 09:59 GMT
#66
Dance, dance my puppets
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 24 2012 10:03 GMT
#67
Kick some butt Taeja!
Rossen
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark177 Posts
August 24 2012 10:23 GMT
#68
For once, I agreed with the rankings, great job! :D. I really enjoyed the extra stats on Oz.
Off-topic, Ver plzzz make God of the Battlefield part 2 ? :D. Nr.1 was best write-up TL has ever seen! ♥
NanowaX
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany190 Posts
August 24 2012 10:29 GMT
#69
On August 24 2012 17:46 Cool G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.


I don't see how listing Marineking's entire career of achievements is relevant to his current form.

It's amusing you give him credit for Prime's victory in GSTL when it was quite clear PartinG was robbed in the final.


"cool g" (haha) your posts are ridiculously dumb
SlayerS MMA GOAT | Maru, MKP, MVP, Byun
Mclvor
Profile Joined February 2011
Italy15 Posts
August 24 2012 10:29 GMT
#70
where is MC?
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
August 24 2012 10:33 GMT
#71
No open bracket watch? Anyway, I love these writeups :3
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
August 24 2012 10:37 GMT
#72
On August 24 2012 18:41 NrGmonk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:20 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
would've liked to see crank over a few of these players, but since you take in tournament placings I understand (he's not really attending much is he?)

We didn't see Crank in the list of players attending. I would have personally put him about 16th if he is indeed attending. Similarly, we weren't sure who the IceCream that signed up was; he might have made top 30.

Btw, I like how some people are arguing Stephano should be higher while others way lower. ^^

Also, Taeja at #1 isn't biased at all. I don't even understand how people can argue that with the players attending MLG. Maybe if MVP and Seed were attending....


He is attending yep. TotalBiscuit sonspors him.
Wayne123
Profile Joined July 2011
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 11:01:01
August 24 2012 10:58 GMT
#73
On August 24 2012 17:46 Cool G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:18 Wayne123 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:11 Cool G wrote:
MKP has to be the most chronically overrated player within SC2, both Ryung and aLive have shown much better play recently, to say nothing of the other races.


That guy won 2 MLGs, placed second in another MLG and was besically the reason why Prime won GSTL season 1 earlier this year. And the 2 years before he was able to reach 3 GSL finals. Another point is that he´s in the OSL RO16 and he´s been in Code S for all 4 seasons this year.

Also he´s one of 10 guys who won more then 100.000 Dollars in prize money in SC2.

How exactly is that overrated? A guy with these kind of archievements has to be one of the top favourites going into any tournaments.


I don't see how listing Marineking's entire career of achievements is relevant to his current form.

It's amusing you give him credit for Prime's victory in GSTL when it was quite clear PartinG was robbed in the final.


Being overrated means that someone isn´t as good as people think. Going by that definition, he can´t be overrated by any means because he has so many tournament wins and he won so much money.

A player can be overrated if people say he´s very good but he has no archievements under his belt. That´s what being overrated means. Someone who has proven himself many times has gotten out of the "zone" where you can call him overrated because he backed up his skill with a lot of sucess.

If you call MKP overrated, you can call MC, DRG and MVP overrated as well. And that is obviously, just plain wrong.

But it seems that Startale is your favourite team, that would explain why you choose to make such, to my mind, ridiculous and false, statements.
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
August 24 2012 11:02 GMT
#74
Stephano > MKP without a shadow of a doubt.

Other than that, the only thing I resent about this ranking is calling Stephano "an anomaly", whereas he should be considered the mark of where the foreign participants can get. Are ViOlet, Ganzi, STC, or Heart strictly better than their foreign competitors? No they are not. They represent the level of player that the foreign competitive core is at right now (SortOf, Nerchio, MaNa and so on), there is no need to embellish their superiority to foreign players when in tournaments that are not heavily Korean favoured (MLG, GSL, OSL-as-it-will-be), they are no better than their counterparts.

My apologies, but I feel like everytime Liquid does a "power rank" in preparation for MLG, they brush all the facts under the carpet and just default to trumpeting Korean domination.

End rant.

Now, yeah, ok, this is a tournament with only 3 significant foreign players in attendance, so I guess I can forgive you. But if you were even a tad more objective, the Grubby line would be much higher and ThorZain would be ahead of the EG/coL Koreans.

(Top 16 for both Mr Grubby and Mr ThorZain.. but if ThorZain flops yet again due to EG curse, top 10 for Grubby)

You will see.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
August 24 2012 11:06 GMT
#75
I laughed about the whatever dutch people do joke :')

generally agree with the ranking; a lot of players are too unknown to me, unfortunately.
Didn't get the mkp joke (harv? i did google..)
Eshra
Profile Joined April 2011
France1009 Posts
August 24 2012 11:08 GMT
#76
On August 24 2012 20:06 Yorbon wrote:
I laughed about the whatever dutch people do joke :')

generally agree with the ranking; a lot of players are too unknown to me, unfortunately.
Didn't get the mkp joke (harv? i did google..)


Harvey Dent.
Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 11:16:59
August 24 2012 11:12 GMT
#77
Oh yeah, before I forget:

BY ALL THAT IS GOOD, TRUTHFUL, BEAUTIFUL AND HOLY,
BLEED THE KOREAN DOGS THE REPAYMENT OF THE SUMMER ARENA HUMILIATION,
BRING THEM DOWN IN THE NAME OF THE LIGHT OF LIGHTS.

Cough.

Uh, hmm, uh, well, now, back to collecting some ladder points.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 24 2012 11:28 GMT
#78
I predict GoOdy to finish higher than at least three of the americans, who are in here. But I agree with the top-20, nice write-up in general.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 24 2012 11:44 GMT
#79
i find it odd that so many seeded to the groups arent featured in the top 30 players. are TL trying to imply that MLGs random seeding system isnt the best? how outlandish.
Fizzy
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden388 Posts
August 24 2012 11:48 GMT
#80
First i read that IdrA was at #29, then i deiced to look at the players who are attending so that i could decide if the writer is a IdrA fanboy or if the turnout to this event really is bad enough for idra to be top 30.
Mvp - Grubby - NaNiwa - Alliance DOTA2 <3
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
18:00
Amateur Showdown #3
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech145
JuggernautJason102
BRAT_OK 68
MindelVK 31
EmSc Tv 2
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26457
Mini 307
Soulkey 155
Dewaltoss 144
firebathero 86
sorry 80
IntoTheRainbow 12
Dota 2
420jenkins611
LuMiX0
League of Legends
Reynor45
Counter-Strike
fl0m2106
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King64
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor535
Liquid`Hasu440
Other Games
Grubby1894
FrodaN1705
Hui .140
Trikslyr39
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1057
StarCraft 2
angryscii 30
EmSc Tv 2
EmSc2Tv 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 57
• Freeedom11
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach41
• blackmanpl 30
• RayReign 14
• 80smullet 9
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3088
• lizZardDota2101
Other Games
• imaqtpie863
• WagamamaTV364
• Shiphtur136
Upcoming Events
BSL
18m
RSL Revival
12h 18m
Cure vs Rogue
Maru vs TBD
MaxPax vs TBD
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
19h 18m
BSL
1d
Afreeca Starleague
1d 15h
Wardi Open
1d 15h
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.