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[WCS KR] Losers R3 Recap/R4 Preview

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August 22nd, 2012 03:45 GMT

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Losers Round 3
Recap


Losers Round 4
Preview


Players, brackets, and schedules on Liquipedia



Losers Round 3: Recap

by Fionn

Results from Live Report Thread by Probe1.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
EffOrt vs. herO[jOin]
(Z)EffOrt <ESV Ohana RE> (P)herO[jOin]
(Z)EffOrt <Entombed Valley> (P)herO[jOin]
(Z)EffOrt <> (P)herO[jOin]

(P)herO[jOin] wins 2-0!

aLive vs. Miya
(T)aLive <Crux Tal'Darim Altar> (Z)Miya
(T)aLive <Entombed Valley> (Z)Miya
(T)aLive <> (Z)Miya

(Z)Miya wins 2-0!

Reality vs. HerO
(T)Reality <ESV ClouD Kingdom> (P)HerO
(T)Reality <Entombed Valley> (P)HerO
(T)Reality <> (P)HerO

(P)HerO wins 2-0!


Need a Hero?
- Both Heroes advance into the top twelve, eliminating two KeSPA players, Reality and Effort, in the process.

Liquid's HerO, a player once known for his terrible nervousness in the booth, has emerged as the unlikely hero for GomTV in this tournament, slaying his third KeSPA elephant last night. We've seen weaker players crumble under the pressure of expectations, but Hero has stuck it to his critics and has performed exceptionally well where other players have collapsed spectacularly.

Hero's last victim, Reality, ends the tournament going from the player with the best credentials against top GSL opponents, to a player that will need to do more if he wants to be remembered months from now. His wins versus Symbol, Shine, Happy and others were impressive, but as everyone knows, the SC2 community only cares about what you've done lately. With both WCS and OSL out of his grasp, he will need to prepare for the upcoming Code A qualifiers and advance if he wants to stay in the limelight. He's a good player, but was shown in his past two series that his TvP will need a lot of work before going head-to-head with the current crop of Protoss.

For our other Hero, the one from CJ Entus, he got into the final twelve by dispatching of his ZvP inept teammate, Effort. Along the same lines as Reality, he has shown great games Zerg and Terran, but has looked lost against Protoss. You can say that it's because the Protoss players in this tournament were just better than the rest, or because Protoss is all-around the strongest race in the game, but Reality and Effort can't deny that they have to work on this match-up going forward.

herO[join] is still a mystery. He has played well in all four of his series, and he now has a 3-1 record, but what can we take from two PvP's, a win over the scared-to-death YuGiOh, and a stomping over a Effort, a player who still hasn't won a televised game against Protoss? A match against Curious, Polt or even Miya might give us a clue on how good this elephant really is, but unfortunately for curious viewers, he gets a rematch against Puzzle in the next loser's round. Having already played Puzzle close once in PvP, there is a strong chance he can pull the upset and be the first KeSPA player to qualify for the Asia championships, but you might as well flip a coin when it comes down to a KeSPA Protoss vs. a GOM Protoss.

Melancholy Marine
- With aLive's upset loss to Miya, only one Terran makes it into the final twelve

Okay, it's about time we start preparing a Melancholy Marine fanclub. In the first three Code S tournaments of the year, only three Terran have made it to the semifinals, and Mvp had to use every all-in and sneaky strategy he could throw out to win the title in the second season over a strong opponent in Squirtle. Zerg and Protoss players have been dreaming about the death of GomTvT for a long time, and finally they can start shoveling some dirt on its grave.

This is by far the worst tournament Terran has ever had in Korea. You can make excuses that Taeja couldn't compete because he was at MLG Arena, Mvp got a bad draw against Polt and then had to forfeit, and MarineKing was too sidetracked with OSL that he fell to horror in the preliminaries, but we are now left with only one of the final twelve players in the tournament being Terran. Alive and Gumiho, the other two Terran players who were expected to make it in, both fell before reaching the cutoff point for at least getting into consolation matches.

Miya's ZvT has been hyped up for ages. People were saying that he could beat any Terran in the world if he put his mind to it, and he finally delivered with his series against Alive. After being called a choker and someone who was too scared of the bright lights, Miya stepped up his game and gained by far his most important victory of his career with a win over the former Code S semifinalist.

Alive is now, like a lot of Terran players, in a difficult situation. He will be competing at MLG Summer, but with his Code S spot for next season still to be decided through Up-and-Down matches and no place in either WCG Korea or WCS Asia, he will need a good result in Raleigh if he doesn't want to truly become the Invisible Terran of Starcraft 2. He started the year in such great form, almost making the GSL finals and winning IPL4, but it's been down hill from there and back to being a good, but not great Terran.


Losers Round 4: Preview



by Waxangel

(Z)ST_Curious vs (P)SKTelecom_Rain

In typical Curious fashion, his smackdown of KeSPA's Rain on opening day of WCS was quickly overshadowed by the KeSPA winning streak that came after. It would be fair to say that Curious outclassed his KeSPA challenger in their first meeting, and it will be interesting to see how much Rain has improved in the last two weeks.

Curious won with a one two punch of a baneling bust, followed by a length macro game where he showed off his spectacular management skills. Rain didn't look bad in those games, just not as good as one of the best ZvP players in Korea right now. However, we caught a glimpse of a possible weakness for Curious yesterday, where he lost to consecutive all-ins from his teammate PartinG. PartinG is a player Curious would be favored against in a long macro game, but his vulnerability to all-ins suggests a way out for Rain.

Because of Protoss' various two base all-in options, PvZ is a match-up where you can never be sure of the result in Bo3's or less, whether it's Proleague or GSL. Just like the match vs PartinG, Curious seems to be the safer bet to win, but you can't rule out an upset if the Protoss player plays his cards right.

Prediction: Curious 2 – 0 Rain


(T)TSL_Polt vs (P)Liquid`HerO

While all of the other players have insurance in form of the 9th/10th place consolation matches, HerO must win this match. Having qualified for the group stages of the upcoming MLG Raleigh, HerO will be unable to play in the consolation matches should he lose here. Talk about added pressure for a player who isn’t exactly famous for his crunch time play!

Yesterday's matches can't really be looked at for much info. Polt may have lost to Seed while HerO crushed Reality, but the skill gap between Reality and Seed makes it hard to draw any conclusions. HerO beat an opponent he was supposed to beat, while Polt understandably lost to the best Protoss player at present. In the end this should be an even match between two players who have some of the best micro in the match-up.

Prediction: HerO 2 – 1 Polt


(P)SlayerS_Puzzle vs (P)CJ_herO

The last time these two played, Puzzle came out with a narrow 2 – 1 victory. CJ's HerO looked strong in defeat, taking one victory with good immortal drop tactics while losing the deciding game at the end of a laser show that could easily have gone the other way. From what we've seen so far, CJ's Hero can flip with the best of them in PvP, and this will be a GomTV vs KeSPA match where there's a very narrow gap in skill.

Mentality could be the deciding point here, but that's hard to judge. We've seen multiple sides of Puzzle in this tournament. Against Reality, he somehow convinced himself a stalker-colossus build – one that he had "seen, but didn't know the exact timings for" – was going to be enough to beat a well prepared KeSPA opponent. On the other hand, he also showed great composure and strategic risk-taking to make a comeback against Reality in the same series, winning a game that looked 95% lost. CJ's HerO has looked focused and well prepared for every series, so it's going to be on Puzzle to decide the result of this mirror.

Prediction: Puzzle 2 – 1 herO


(Z)SAMSUNG_RorO vs (Z)SlayerS_Miya

After defeating aLive last night, Miya went on record yet again to talk about how nervous he becomes in the booth. We didn't really need any reminding right now, considering that we're all familiar with how he combined with horror to play the worst series in the entire WCS tournament. He definitely looked much improved in his victory against aLive, suggesting that there is hope after all. But against a KeSPA player, we fear that he might return to his jittery worst.

On the other hand, RorO's gone into each match with nothing to lose, and has impressed in all of his matches. In the WCS match most relevant to this one, he outplayed Leenock in straight up games. If that doesn't convince you that he's going to beat Miya, then I don't know what will.

Prediction: RorO 2 – 1 Miya



Writers: Fionn and Waxangel
Graphics: HawaiianPig and shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel
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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
August 22 2012 03:56 GMT
#2
cmon polt, don't let us terrans down
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 22 2012 04:01 GMT
#3
Thanks for the write up!

I expect Roro to totally make it through. cj_hero a maybe (because PvP and kespa protoss are looking good in that MU) and Rain. Well we'll see. Curious should totally be favoured but Rain keeps on winning PvZ despite a lot of questionable moves every single game.

Disagree with the Hero Polt prediction. I think Polt has got it. In which case Hero will miss out or have to make a hard decision.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 22 2012 04:11 GMT
#4
Rooting for Roro and Hero!
Refer to my post.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 22 2012 04:11 GMT
#5
lol is fionn meta-predicting? ;D
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Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
August 22 2012 04:32 GMT
#6
HerO, top 10 now, cmon we believe! The spaces are getting tight, curious how many Kespa can make it
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
August 22 2012 04:33 GMT
#7
RorO fighting!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 22 2012 04:34 GMT
#8
by.sun is going to win, he's the next zerg bonjwa just you wait and see.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 22 2012 04:36 GMT
#9
Kespa's gotta bring back the strong performances!!!
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
August 22 2012 04:39 GMT
#10
Sad to see Effort and Alive drop out, rooting for Hero and Roro now I guess.
cosine
Profile Joined September 2011
313 Posts
August 22 2012 04:58 GMT
#11
so is Polt now the only terran with even a chance to represent Korea in the broader WCS?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 22 2012 05:10 GMT
#12
On August 22 2012 13:58 cosine wrote:
so is Polt now the only terran with even a chance to represent Korea in the broader WCS?


Yes.
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hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
August 22 2012 05:15 GMT
#13
sun is on a 5 game winning streak vs zerg. i'd say he is the favorite, or maybe im just underrating curious..
JuiceBoxHero
Profile Joined January 2011
117 Posts
August 22 2012 05:39 GMT
#14
Polt do it for the T, at least if he loses I wont have to continue ruining my sleep schedule, but he wont! Polt hwaiting! I remember an article about Polt where it mentioned people didnt root for him because he got to hug and touch marineking while you dont, now that hes on tsl I dont see how anyone can not root for him.
1raxexpand
Profile Joined July 2012
United States165 Posts
August 22 2012 05:54 GMT
#15
My prediction : It's gonna be 9 protoss /1 zerg representing korea
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iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
August 22 2012 05:57 GMT
#16
I want Hero to win...but polt is the last terran...but hero can't play in the consolation matches...
aughaugh
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cosine
Profile Joined September 2011
313 Posts
August 22 2012 06:14 GMT
#17
On August 22 2012 14:10 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 13:58 cosine wrote:
so is Polt now the only terran with even a chance to represent Korea in the broader WCS?


Yes.

he's gonna carry that weight.
boxman22
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 06:26:13
August 22 2012 06:22 GMT
#18
I had to laugh at the statement " In the first three Code S tournaments of the year, only three Terran have made it to the semifinals". There are 12 semifinalists in 3 tournaments. With perfect balance, you would expect 1/3 to be from each race. 1/3 of 12 is 4. There was 1 less terran than expected -_-

Edit: Also lol he miscounted. There have been 4 terran semifinalists in the last 3 tournaments. What a terrible complaint
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 22 2012 06:40 GMT
#19
On August 22 2012 15:22 boxman22 wrote:
I had to laugh at the statement " In the first three Code S tournaments of the year, only three Terran have made it to the semifinals". There are 12 semifinalists in 3 tournaments. With perfect balance, you would expect 1/3 to be from each race. 1/3 of 12 is 4. There was 1 less terran than expected -_-

Edit: Also lol he miscounted. There have been 4 terran semifinalists in the last 3 tournaments. What a terrible complaint


I forgot about Alive.

I always forget about Alive.

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33503 Posts
August 22 2012 06:41 GMT
#20
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AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 22 2012 07:12 GMT
#21
Weeeeee! By.Sun against the 3rd ELO ranked player! I hope By.Sun pulls it!
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Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 07:16:15
August 22 2012 07:15 GMT
#22
Poooollllllllllllllt-uuuu fiightiiiiiiiiing!! Love this guy!
Hope that Miya(eh..lol) and Rain make it :/
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PaleRider09
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 07:43:37
August 22 2012 07:41 GMT
#23
We don't need a Meloncholy Marine Club. We don't cry. We fight back, and we come back with a vengeance. Terrans are gods, kings, and heroes. All we need is a single Terran, a single marine, to carry the flag forward.

Terran fighting!
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ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
August 22 2012 08:05 GMT
#24
On August 22 2012 15:40 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 15:22 boxman22 wrote:
I had to laugh at the statement " In the first three Code S tournaments of the year, only three Terran have made it to the semifinals". There are 12 semifinalists in 3 tournaments. With perfect balance, you would expect 1/3 to be from each race. 1/3 of 12 is 4. There was 1 less terran than expected -_-

Edit: Also lol he miscounted. There have been 4 terran semifinalists in the last 3 tournaments. What a terrible complaint


I forgot about Alive.

I always forget about Alive.



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[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 22 2012 08:47 GMT
#25
please win polt T____T
the only terran hope
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Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
August 22 2012 09:30 GMT
#26
i hope polt pulls through, a good terran makes a tournament so much more enjoyable to watch.

0 terrans in the worldchampionship round would be hilarious though, blizzards own tourny showcases the worst race distribution ever xD and then a balance report about struggeling zergs and lategame PvT is fine to top it off.
aqbabaq
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden65 Posts
August 22 2012 10:00 GMT
#27
Rain has done it !!!!
aqbabaq
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden65 Posts
August 22 2012 10:46 GMT
#28
Hero make it looks so easy ...just wow..amazing games!!.
JuiceBoxHero
Profile Joined January 2011
117 Posts
August 22 2012 10:48 GMT
#29
Polt got outplayed for sure but the 2 base collosus with double forge into templar is a bit concerning, like you dont even need to get a third? How does t break that
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 22 2012 12:48 GMT
#30
On August 22 2012 15:22 boxman22 wrote:
I had to laugh at the statement " In the first three Code S tournaments of the year, only three Terran have made it to the semifinals". There are 12 semifinalists in 3 tournaments. With perfect balance, you would expect 1/3 to be from each race. 1/3 of 12 is 4. There was 1 less terran than expected -_-

Edit: Also lol he miscounted. There have been 4 terran semifinalists in the last 3 tournaments. What a terrible complaint


lol yes. Terran have only had as many semi-finalists as they should get on average!! Oh nooooes!
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CometNine
Profile Joined March 2012
New Zealand87 Posts
August 22 2012 12:56 GMT
#31
On August 22 2012 15:40 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 15:22 boxman22 wrote:
I had to laugh at the statement " In the first three Code S tournaments of the year, only three Terran have made it to the semifinals". There are 12 semifinalists in 3 tournaments. With perfect balance, you would expect 1/3 to be from each race. 1/3 of 12 is 4. There was 1 less terran than expected -_-

Edit: Also lol he miscounted. There have been 4 terran semifinalists in the last 3 tournaments. What a terrible complaint


I forgot about Alive.

I always forget about Alive.



Already becoming that Invisible Terran ^^ lol
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
August 22 2012 17:11 GMT
#32
On August 22 2012 15:22 boxman22 wrote:
I had to laugh at the statement " In the first three Code S tournaments of the year, only three Terran have made it to the semifinals". There are 12 semifinalists in 3 tournaments. With perfect balance, you would expect 1/3 to be from each race. 1/3 of 12 is 4. There was 1 less terran than expected -_-

Edit: Also lol he miscounted. There have been 4 terran semifinalists in the last 3 tournaments. What a terrible complaint

When Terran makes up a little under half of the players in the tournament (43 out of a total 96 Code S spots in GSL), with "perfect balance," there would be between five and six Terrans in the semi-finals at this point. When you have a tournament like some of the WCS tournaments where there are no Terrans in the semis or sometimes even top eights, it's not that surprising because there are a very low number of Terrans to begin with. But GSL has so many Terrans in it already that more of them should be getting deeper and deeper in tournaments.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 22 2012 19:55 GMT
#33
By.Sun a.k.a By.Rain has played 5 best-of-3 in this tournament. All of them were PvZ's which is his best matchup. When finally confronted with a PvP he wins by forfeit. Is it just me, or is he absurdly lucky... Anyway, still rooting for him.^^
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
August 22 2012 20:18 GMT
#34
On August 23 2012 04:55 BrokenMirage wrote:
By.Sun a.k.a By.Rain has played 5 best-of-3 in this tournament. All of them were PvZ's which is his best matchup. When finally confronted with a PvP he wins by forfeit. Is it just me, or is he absurdly lucky... Anyway, still rooting for him.^^


If some people consider pvp a skill based matchup then it's only fair to say that drawing favourable brackets in a tournament is also a skill.
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
August 22 2012 21:32 GMT
#35
Did Hero switch from Zerg to Protoss in the BW-SC2 transition?
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
August 22 2012 22:18 GMT
#36
On August 23 2012 06:32 neobowman wrote:
Did Hero switch from Zerg to Protoss in the BW-SC2 transition?

Yes hero[join] did.
I think by.hero is still zerg though.
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
August 23 2012 01:21 GMT
#37
I guess I have to cheer for CJ Hero now.
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