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Ro32: Day One
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Ro32: Day One Preview



*Elephants trumpet in the background*

GomTV vs. KeSPA. Ever since the copyright row between Blizzard and KeSPA and the formation of GomTV's oddly parallel but decidedly different pro-gaming scene in Korea, this is the collision of worlds everyone has been waiting for. Not ready at MLG Anaheim, the KeSPA players were wisely separated from their more experienced pro-gamer brethren. Are they ready now?


by Fionn and Waxangel

(Z)LG-IM HoRRoR vs. (Z)SlayerS_Miya

In an odd twist of fate, the two least known, least successful players in the entire WCS Korea tournament are facing each other in the first round. Between the two players, they share one GSL appearance (Miya in Code A) and zero wins.

While a first round Code A duel between two such players would be utterly skippable, the fact that it is a WCS match makes it a little bit more interesting. The difficulty of Code A qualifiers has gone down a bit as all the better players filtered up over the course of two years of GSL, but the WCS Korea qualifier included many top Code S opponents.

For Horror, he had to defeat (T)MarineKingPrime, the player who received the top seed in his qualifier group. In a shocking upset, Horror managed to beat MKP by a 2 – 1 score, and then went on to defeat far less formidable opponents in (P)Shuttle and (T)FXOasd to complete his passage.

Miya was far luckier, defeating primarily unknown opponents until he faced KeSPA pro (T)Snow in the final round. Snow had already defeated (Z)NesTea 2 – 0 on his way up, but Miya avenged his non-KeSPA brethren by defeating Snow 2 – 0 to confirm his ticket to the WCS nationals.

Another factor that makes this more interesting than a similar Code A match is that there's a big emotional investment factor, due this being a massive opportunity for both players. In Code A you might see the loser laugh and give a "well I gave it my best" shrug, but this match could be more like the Up/Downs where players slump over in utter despair as they rue missing the one chance to validate their life choice for the last few years.

Oh, yes, a prediction. Miya is rated pretty highly by SlayerS internally, but is always disappointing when he has to play in broadcast games. On the other hand, Horror is barely talked about at all, and has no experience playing broadcast games. Oddly enough, this favors Horror. We know that Miya chokes horribly when the cameras are on him, but at least there's the possibility that Horror will be a natural on TV.

Prediction: Horror 2 – 1 Miya


(P)SKT1_By.Sun vs. (Z)ST_Curious

No, it's not (T)Flash, (P)Bisu, or (Z)Jaedong (more about him later) that will take the historic step in being the first KESPA player to play SC2 in the GOM Studios. It's By.Sun, potentially the strongest of the KeSPA Seven that will bravely travel to Mokdong for the first major broadcast tournament between the two factions of Korean Starcraft II.

While By.Sun might be the strongest of his group heading into this event, he won't have an easy first round. Instead of getting a chance to roll over a GOM player on the fringe of Code A or wallowing in Code B, he got one of the most consistent players in Code S. Heading into his fifth straight Code S season since qualifying from Code A in October, Startale's Curious is still searching for his career defining moment.

He has been able to get back into Code S time and time again, but has had to do it by either re-qualifying out of Code A or the Up-and-Down matches. He has never been able to make the quarterfinals of Code S and cement himself as a top tier player with the ability to win it all. Sure, he has shown glimpses here and there of being a player who can contend to be one of the best Zergs in the word, but he just hasn't been able to break through.

A deep run in WCS Korea would be a big stepping stone in his career and give the fans a reason to believe he's more than another run-of-the-mill Zerg. For By.Sun, a single series victory against Curious would put him on the map right away. If he can be the first of the KeSPA Seven to play his match, win it against a Code S mainstay and get into the second round, he'll be hyped into the ionosphere.

Frankly, Curious is the heavy favorite here, and we all know it. It would be fun to look at By.Sun's high Korean ELO, talk up how he has been excellent so far in PvZ for SKT1 in Proleague and act like that he could beat Curious in his worst match-up, but Curious plays on a whole different level from the Proleague. KeSPA players have had some success in prelims for WCG and WCS, taking games and even series from top players, but this is truly the first big tournament between the two sides.

Curious will have known for a week that his opponent is By.Sun, studied his games and know what he is getting into. A victory for By.Sun would be historic and start a lot of chatter about four legged gray animals, but Curious should be able to dispatch the KeSPA player and continue his record of getting out of the first round in GomTV broadcasted tournaments.

Prediction: Curious 2
- 0 By.Sun


(P)ST_PartinG vs (T)MVP.sC

Forget actual gameplay, there's plenty of reason outside of Starcraft II that you'd want to see either of these guys advance.

One part of PartinG's reputation that only gets glossed over by the international community is that he is an insolent loudmouth – and I mean that in the best way possible. From talking about being the best Protoss in the world when he was only in the GSL Ro8 to saying he didn't lose to Mvp because of 'skill,' he's full of adorable statements that would be annoying coming from any other player. Somehow, it's all quite tolerable and amusing when it comes from PartinG. Continued success for PartinG means continued entertainment for the fans, and now that he's even started making homages to Keen by copying his flamboyant victory celebrations, it's hard not to root for the young Protoss.

sC is easy to root for for an entirely different reason. Debuting when he was just fifteen, he's a member of the new generation of pro-gamers who are playing Starcraft II as their first game, and tearing up the scene in the process. Well, sC was tearing things up until the summer of 2011, when health issues set him on the path to a slow decline. Suffering from a chronic collapsed lung, sC fell off after reaching the semi-finals in Code S May. Though he had a surprise rebound performance in Code S November, he was unable to mount a comeback and is currently languishing in Code B. sC was almost a championship level player at his peak, and it was a shame to see poor health ruin his upward progress. After falling out of the public eye for the most part, WCS be a great opportunity for sC to show people what he can do.

Objectively, PartinG is massively favored here. PartinG has been both overrated and underrated at times, but the one constant for him has been his monstrous PvT. Only top TvP players like (T)MKP or (T)TaeJa can fight on even terms, and sC is a long way off from being on that level. sC was at his best when he could dominate players with superior macro, but most players have caught up by this point. Without the finesse or multi-tasking to prevent PartinG from using his "defend until I have enough templar to storm everything" strategy, sC is in for a very difficult battle.

Prediction: PartinG 2 – 0 sC


(Z)T8_Jaedong vs. (T)FnaticRC aLive

In the history of GOM, has there ever been a more anticipated debut? Finally, after two plus years of wondering what it would be like to see Jaedong in the GSL studios, you'll get your chance tonight. Now even with his own GOMTV player profile, Jaedong is officially stepping out of his home at OGN and taking on possibly the hardest challenge of his career. After years of being considered one of the greatest players to ever play Brood War, he will - for maybe the first time since he was a rookie - be entering the first round of a Starcraft tournament as the underdog.

Fact: Jaedong, in the past two months, has raised his play to new levels. At the start of the hybrid Proleague, Jaedong looked lost when it came to decision making. You could tell that the mechanics and brilliance was there, but then he would panic and head straight into a game losing base race that he possibly couldn't win. Then, ever since former GSL player Cezanne took the reigns over at Team 8 as their Starcraft 2 coach, they've been by far the best team in the competition.

With eight straight victories and Jaedong going 6-2 in his last eight games, they are atop of the standings and making a strong case to any sponsor out there that they are the cream of the crop when it comes to KeSPA Starcraft 2 squads. His decision making has improved, his mechanics are shining through, and he is among the best KeSPA has to offer when it comes to SC2.

Fiction: Jaedong is now Code S level and can compete with the DRG's and Nestea's of the world. Calm down, people. We can all see that he is improving at a pace that many people thought was impossible, but he's still a long way from being considered even a top ten Zerg in the world. He has shown that he can beat KESPA players and be clutch for his team in the Proleague, but this will be his first venture in going up against a GOM player.

Similar to By.Sun, if Jaedong was facing a (Z)HoRRoR or (T)dreamertt, you could make a strong argument that with his experience combined with his improving skills give him a good chance of advancing. However, instead of getting a Code B player or someone much less experienced, he has to go up against the IPL4 champion and one of the strongest Terrans in the world, Fnatic RC's Alive.

Alive, fittingly in his role as one of the most overlooked players in the world even after winning IPL4, might look more like a litmus test for Jaedong than a WCS championship contender in the eyes of most viewers. In the first Code S season of the year, when he was at his peak, Alive was in the semifinals and starting to gain the aura of one of the best players in the world. Then, like with a lot of players, he started going to too many foreign tournaments, had his GSL results slip, and is now going to have to scrape through the Up-and-Down matches to get back into Code S.

Even with his current struggles, he is a very strong opponent. With him not playing in any tournaments lately and being eliminated earlier than expected in Code S, he has had a lot of time to practice in Korea and get ready for this match. His TvZ hasn't been his strongest match-up in 2012, but with two big victories over Miya and Coca in the recent GSTL, he should have confidence going up against Jaedong.

Simply put, this is something you don't want to miss. It's a pioneering moment for Jaedong, as he trail-blazes the way for KeSPA players in the GomTV studio. A win for Alive would be good to prove that he is still one of the better Terran players in Korea, but a victory for Jaedong would be remembered as a historic moment for years to come. Again, it's not likely that Jaedong will be able to pull out a victory against his much more SC2 experienced, championship winning opponent, but throw in his inhuman improvements and his uncanny ability to perform at his best during the most high tension moments, and you can't say for sure he'll lose.

Right? It's Jaedong we're talking about here. Out of the KeSPA Seven, if there is one that can find a way, it has to be the Tyrant.

Prediction: Alive 2 - 1 Jaedong




Writers: Fionn and Waxangel
Graphics: HawaiianPig and shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel
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BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
August 06 2012 05:09 GMT
#2
Amazing write up, Wax!

It's so bizarre to see a non-TLBS be favored against the Dong, but hey, SC2 is a pretty hard game.

Hoping to see some great games. I can't wait for WCS Korea! :D
BwCBlueBox.837
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
August 06 2012 05:12 GMT
#3
YAWWWW EEEE JAEDONGGGGG!!!!!!!!!

If I was betting on this, all reason would point to Alive...but the other guy is the mother fucking Dong. Let's do THIS,
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 06 2012 05:13 GMT
#4
LEE JAE DONG

that is all.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 06 2012 05:13 GMT
#5
great article =)
gogo jaedong!
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etrensce
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia337 Posts
August 06 2012 05:16 GMT
#6
2-1 alive isnt something i would bet on, 2-0 is where the money is at
If life gives you lemons, burn lifes house down
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 06 2012 05:17 GMT
#7
alive will win most likely, jaedong is barely code A level i feel..
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asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
August 06 2012 05:18 GMT
#8
aLive is probably gonna 2-0 jaedon, sadly
rip prime
DMZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada51 Posts
August 06 2012 05:18 GMT
#9
This should be interesting, the betting man would put his money on the GOM players.. with that said, its the Dong after all..
“May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't.”- George S. Patton
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
August 06 2012 05:19 GMT
#10
PARTINGUUUUUUUUUUU! GOGOGOGO

I kinda want jaedong to win just for godliness, although alive has made a fan of me through nice meching. I'm CURIOUS if Jaedong will be demoralized after his brethren loses in the first match.
LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK LEENOCK
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 06 2012 05:20 GMT
#11
Come on JD I know you can win this

I haven't been this hyped over a match in a long time. It's the Lee Jae Dong effect I guess.
BPLOL
Profile Joined February 2012
United States55 Posts
August 06 2012 05:21 GMT
#12
GOOOOO JAEDONG!! Show us that its not all about the elephant, but the TYRANT !
★JD★MKP★DRG★BP★FIGHTING★
Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
August 06 2012 05:23 GMT
#13
So excited for Alive and Jaedong!!!~
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
August 06 2012 05:24 GMT
#14
If alive loses to jaedong right now..... i will flip shit
Long live the Boss Toss!
Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
August 06 2012 05:25 GMT
#15
Jaedong can do it! I believe! (somewhat)
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Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
August 06 2012 05:25 GMT
#16
JAEDONGGGG lets do thissss
Jaedong :D
xeidivick
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil12 Posts
August 06 2012 05:25 GMT
#17
i cant find the time... when it starts?
xPabt
Profile Joined February 2012
226 Posts
August 06 2012 05:25 GMT
#18
Are vods going to be free for this since its WCS?
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
August 06 2012 05:29 GMT
#19
I wish jaedong puts up a good game vs alive.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
August 06 2012 05:30 GMT
#20
I can't fucking wait for Jaedong vs Alive. That has to be one of the best match ups I could have chosen for a true Kespa vs Gom match.

I am so fucking excited. I don't even care who wins I just want to see what happens.
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sickthink
Profile Joined December 2011
United States60 Posts
August 06 2012 05:32 GMT
#21
Anybody know happened to MKP and why he's not in the Ro32? Can't wait for jaedong v aLive though...
uniden... no unidennnnn! noooooooooooooo.....
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 06 2012 05:33 GMT
#22
On August 06 2012 14:32 sickthink wrote:
Anybody know happened to MKP and why he's not in the Ro32? Can't wait for jaedong v aLive though...


He lost to horror in the preliminaries.
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calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
August 06 2012 05:34 GMT
#23
lets go jaedong!
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 06 2012 05:37 GMT
#24
Wow, this is going to be crazy. It's like a mini-season of GSL.
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sickthink
Profile Joined December 2011
United States60 Posts
August 06 2012 05:38 GMT
#25
Thanks Fionn! Didn't get to see that match-_-....
uniden... no unidennnnn! noooooooooooooo.....
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 06 2012 05:40 GMT
#26
I am ready for The True Dong to blow everyone away and win 2-0.
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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
August 06 2012 05:44 GMT
#27
I am thinking that the Gom players might be under a lot of pressure to win. Hope they play to their potential and don't make bad mistakes.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 05:45:47
August 06 2012 05:44 GMT
#28
Sc2 is still new for the original Dong, but who can compare to THE death stare in all of esports?
[image loading]
jpark4g
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States101 Posts
August 06 2012 05:44 GMT
#29
SO FUCKIN STOKED FOR ALIVE VS JAEDONG! 15 bucks? EZ
Cipher32
Profile Joined April 2011
United States52 Posts
August 06 2012 05:49 GMT
#30
Jaedong vs alive??? YES please
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
August 06 2012 05:49 GMT
#31
I'm so excited to see JaeDong play.... I have been waiting to see his play in SC2 since like beta...He is my hero.. Go JaeDong!~!~!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
xeidivick
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil12 Posts
August 06 2012 05:50 GMT
#32
On August 06 2012 14:25 xPabt wrote:
Are vods going to be free for this since its WCS?


I want to know this too.....
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 06 2012 05:50 GMT
#33
On August 06 2012 14:50 xeidivick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 14:25 xPabt wrote:
Are vods going to be free for this since its WCS?


I want to know this too.....


they will be free after 1 week but only available right away with the ticket.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 06 2012 05:51 GMT
#34
It's gonna be sooo weird seeing Jaedong in GOM booths
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JuiceBoxHero
Profile Joined January 2011
117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 05:53:06
August 06 2012 05:52 GMT
#35
That picture is epic. Jaedong has a decent shot considering aLive has not been playing his best as of late. Experience will likely still prove to be too big of a gap for the kespa sc2ers.

edit. posts loaded as I was posting answering my question, very convenient
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 06 2012 05:55 GMT
#36
Taeja didn't qualify for this? Anyway, I hope Parting will win.:D
MrMedic
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada452 Posts
August 06 2012 05:57 GMT
#37
I am so excited for this Jaedong match can't wait, but so is everyone^^
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 06 2012 05:57 GMT
#38
On August 06 2012 14:55 Wildmoon wrote:
Taeja didn't qualify for this? Anyway, I hope Parting will win.:D


Taeja was at Summer Arena.
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Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
August 06 2012 06:00 GMT
#39
Oh man, the hype. Sadly I now sleep at normal times, so I'll have to catch the VODs tomorrow. I can't wait!
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
August 06 2012 06:07 GMT
#40
the first time jaedong isn't straight up favored to win since...2008?
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
August 06 2012 06:08 GMT
#41
On August 06 2012 14:51 glzElectromaster wrote:
It's gonna be sooo weird seeing Jaedong in GOM booths

He played in the invitationals a few years ago. First competitive BW i ever watched was his two hatch muta vs flash.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33298 Posts
August 06 2012 06:09 GMT
#42
On August 06 2012 15:07 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
the first time jaedong isn't straight up favored to win since...2008?


sec let me search his entire TLPD
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 06 2012 06:10 GMT
#43
Can we watch this for free? I mean vods. Wont be able to see it live.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 06:12:09
August 06 2012 06:11 GMT
#44
On August 06 2012 15:09 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 15:07 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
the first time jaedong isn't straight up favored to win since...2008?


sec let me search his entire TLPD


Ok, I think he wasn't favored to win against Flash in the pre-hybrid Proleague as early as this may:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218803

If we're talking Bo3's and above? Lemme check again
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 06 2012 06:17 GMT
#45
I don't know what you guys are talking about Jaedong is totally favored, he's gonna crush that noob. NO ONE LEAVES HERE ALIVE
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 06:19:12
August 06 2012 06:18 GMT
#46
nevermind =P
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
August 06 2012 06:20 GMT
#47
JAEDONGGGG!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 06:25:01
August 06 2012 06:23 GMT
#48
I think annoying elitists would argue that given the relative match-up strengths at the time, JD shouldn't have been favored against against Hydra at the PDPop MSL semis (February 2011), but popular opinion probably favored him by a lot.

Flash had a slight edge when JD faced off against him in the Korean Air OSL S2 finals, but ridiculously JD fandom narrows the margin so it's hard to say he was CLEARLY the underdog (September 2010). Technically, I think this date is the one that stands, and would be the last series Jaedong was not the favorite in. A little short of 2 years.

Going back even further to find series he was CLEARY the underdog in, I'm gonna go with his match vs Much in 2007 OSL Dual Tournament. (April 2007)

Other candidates: vs Sea in Challenge League 2007 (July 2007)
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qingbo
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada40 Posts
August 06 2012 06:27 GMT
#49
looks like another reason why i'm going to stay up tonight and not sleep again :D
Random so imba
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
August 06 2012 06:37 GMT
#50
Gogo JD my love.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 06 2012 06:45 GMT
#51
LEEJAEDONG
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 06 2012 06:45 GMT
#52
On August 06 2012 15:45 figq wrote:
LEEJAEDONG


you, I like you.

you get it.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 06 2012 06:52 GMT
#53
lets go jaedong
Jaedong.
WackaAlpaca
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada208 Posts
August 06 2012 07:07 GMT
#54
JAE DOOOOOOONGGGGGG

i want jaedong vs dongraegu....

JAEDONGRAEGU~
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NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
August 06 2012 07:08 GMT
#55
JAEDONG! FUCK YEAH! Been waiting for this day since Sc2 was announced! Time to shine! TRUE DONG!
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
August 06 2012 07:09 GMT
#56
On August 06 2012 14:33 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 14:32 sickthink wrote:
Anybody know happened to MKP and why he's not in the Ro32? Can't wait for jaedong v aLive though...


He lost to horror in the preliminaries.

To a one-base baneling bust, I think.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 06 2012 07:15 GMT
#57
On August 06 2012 16:09 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 14:33 Fionn wrote:
On August 06 2012 14:32 sickthink wrote:
Anybody know happened to MKP and why he's not in the Ro32? Can't wait for jaedong v aLive though...


He lost to horror in the preliminaries.

To a one-base baneling bust, I think.


LG-IM ruining Marineking's career since 2010.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 06 2012 07:25 GMT
#58
LEE JAEDONG HWATING~~

He deserves that success
In the woods, there lurks..
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 06 2012 07:37 GMT
#59
On August 06 2012 15:23 Waxangel wrote:
I think annoying elitists would argue that given the relative match-up strengths at the time, JD shouldn't have been favored against against Hydra at the PDPop MSL semis (February 2011), but popular opinion probably favored him by a lot.

Flash had a slight edge when JD faced off against him in the Korean Air OSL S2 finals, but ridiculously JD fandom narrows the margin so it's hard to say he was CLEARLY the underdog (September 2010). Technically, I think this date is the one that stands, and would be the last series Jaedong was not the favorite in. A little short of 2 years.

Going back even further to find series he was CLEARY the underdog in, I'm gonna go with his match vs Much in 2007 OSL Dual Tournament. (April 2007)

Other candidates: vs Sea in Challenge League 2007 (July 2007)


I remember LBing Hydra vs Jaedong, even though Jaedong was still "favored" by most; Hydra had the ZvZ "force" going for him at the time.

I thought Flash had a decent edge in KA OSL S2. But yeah, other than a few questionable cases, he hasn't been a true "underdog" ever since he learned to ZvP vs Stork with his ee han timing at the beginning of 2008.
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 06 2012 07:45 GMT
#60
Does anyone know if GOMtv is charging for the vods for this? I can't stay up for this due to work tomorrow, and Jaedong is playing in the last set T_T
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
August 06 2012 07:46 GMT
#61
On August 06 2012 16:37 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 15:23 Waxangel wrote:
I think annoying elitists would argue that given the relative match-up strengths at the time, JD shouldn't have been favored against against Hydra at the PDPop MSL semis (February 2011), but popular opinion probably favored him by a lot.

Flash had a slight edge when JD faced off against him in the Korean Air OSL S2 finals, but ridiculously JD fandom narrows the margin so it's hard to say he was CLEARLY the underdog (September 2010). Technically, I think this date is the one that stands, and would be the last series Jaedong was not the favorite in. A little short of 2 years.

Going back even further to find series he was CLEARY the underdog in, I'm gonna go with his match vs Much in 2007 OSL Dual Tournament. (April 2007)

Other candidates: vs Sea in Challenge League 2007 (July 2007)


I remember LBing Hydra vs Jaedong, even though Jaedong was still "favored" by most; Hydra had the ZvZ "force" going for him at the time.

I thought Flash had a decent edge in KA OSL S2. But yeah, other than a few questionable cases, he hasn't been a true "underdog" ever since he learned to ZvP vs Stork with his ee han timing at the beginning of 2008.

He lost his last 3 games against Light in late '10 early '11...
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 06 2012 07:46 GMT
#62
LEE JAE DONGGGGG LETS GOOOOOOO.
It'll definitely be a treat to see. Great writeup; sooo pumped.
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
August 06 2012 07:47 GMT
#63
Great write-up. Super jazzed for the JD games.

Really excited to see how the top Kespa players are shaping up.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 06 2012 07:51 GMT
#64
Getting hyped!

Hopefully the Kespa players can win or atleast put up a fight

Jaedong Fighting!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 06 2012 07:51 GMT
#65
Wait... what is all the smacktalk about sC in the preview? May I remember there was a time where the "Gumiho"-style was called the "sC"-style?
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
August 06 2012 07:53 GMT
#66
Predicting that Jaedong loses versus Alive? A sacrilege.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 06 2012 08:01 GMT
#67
To be honest, I feel aLive is bad enough at TvZ to lose against Jaedong.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 08:11:50
August 06 2012 08:06 GMT
#68
Talking about By.Sun
Instead of getting a chance to roll over a GOM player on the fringe of Code A or wallowing in Code B



Talking about Jaedong
Similar to By.Sun, if Jaedong was facing a (Z)HoRRoR or (T)dreamertt, you could make a strong argument that with his experience combined with his improving skills give him a good chance of advancing.


It's funny how the asumption that the best kespa players already pretty much equal~ medium code A players, has first be insinuated by some fools and his now assumed by quite a few.

Expecting two quick 2-0, maybe 2-1 if Alive goes for an overly aggressive all-in which gets blocked.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
Adventurekid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Sweden505 Posts
August 06 2012 08:08 GMT
#69
Thank you.
You should build a turtle fence!
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 06 2012 08:09 GMT
#70
I was cheering for Jaedong before it was cool /hipster
This is our town, scrub
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
August 06 2012 08:13 GMT
#71
Jaedong fighting!!!!
Getting too old for this..
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 06 2012 08:14 GMT
#72
So hyped for today... gonna chill till Parting vs sC, gogo Parting and the Tyrant!
ffxiv enjoyer
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
August 06 2012 08:14 GMT
#73
On August 06 2012 16:46 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2012 16:37 ]343[ wrote:
On August 06 2012 15:23 Waxangel wrote:
I think annoying elitists would argue that given the relative match-up strengths at the time, JD shouldn't have been favored against against Hydra at the PDPop MSL semis (February 2011), but popular opinion probably favored him by a lot.

Flash had a slight edge when JD faced off against him in the Korean Air OSL S2 finals, but ridiculously JD fandom narrows the margin so it's hard to say he was CLEARLY the underdog (September 2010). Technically, I think this date is the one that stands, and would be the last series Jaedong was not the favorite in. A little short of 2 years.

Going back even further to find series he was CLEARY the underdog in, I'm gonna go with his match vs Much in 2007 OSL Dual Tournament. (April 2007)

Other candidates: vs Sea in Challenge League 2007 (July 2007)


I remember LBing Hydra vs Jaedong, even though Jaedong was still "favored" by most; Hydra had the ZvZ "force" going for him at the time.

I thought Flash had a decent edge in KA OSL S2. But yeah, other than a few questionable cases, he hasn't been a true "underdog" ever since he learned to ZvP vs Stork with his ee han timing at the beginning of 2008.

He lost his last 3 games against Light in late '10 early '11...


I'd say Light-Jaedong was about even at that point. Light certainly had a stronger lategame, but that was around the time JD won an epic MSL semifinal 3-2 over Light (in the other semifinal, Flash beat Fantasy in yet another epic semifinal.) Yes, Jaedong had to resort to early ling runbys (damn, how do I pluralize that word...) to beat Light, but I don't think Light was "favored" by very much at that point. LIght was not much more favored than Hydra was in PDPop.
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JimmyHollow
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom249 Posts
August 06 2012 08:16 GMT
#74
Jaedong fightning ! This is so must watch !
massivez
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium653 Posts
August 06 2012 08:27 GMT
#75
Jaedong fighting, my body is rdy!
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
August 06 2012 08:34 GMT
#76
dong time
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 06 2012 08:56 GMT
#77
Jaedong!!!! Please win!!!!! I also want Parting and Curious to crush their foes. It will make my week though if Jaedong dominates.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
August 06 2012 09:00 GMT
#78
lee jae dong

lee jae dong

hype hype hype hypeee! the tyrant awaits.
I love crazymoving
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 09:17:39
August 06 2012 09:14 GMT
#79
Time for Jeadong to teach Alive a few lessons.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
baconftw
Profile Joined July 2012
Denmark45 Posts
August 06 2012 09:27 GMT
#80
Why you make GOMTV stream it? :-( Soooo bad quality.. And its so expensive to get premium...
''Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek happiness.'' - Sean ''Day[9]'' Plott.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
August 06 2012 09:28 GMT
#81
On August 06 2012 18:27 baconftw wrote:
Why you make GOMTV stream it? :-( Soooo bad quality.. And its so expensive to get premium...

Because prestige, experience and sustainable business model.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 06 2012 09:34 GMT
#82
Btw , it's not unlikely of Jaedong to pull out the cheese. Pretty sure Alive wouldnt expect it and JD does so fairly often.
This is our town, scrub
peNwOw
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany18 Posts
August 06 2012 09:38 GMT
#83
WCS was always free in HQ.
Now with Gom you need to pay for good Quality.
Kinda sad.
"Naniwa seems kind of like a douchebag" - IdrA
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 09:45:36
August 06 2012 09:45 GMT
#84
don't care for all these scary S-code players, I wonder where would they be if BW pros started training two years ago, so just you wait.
JD <3333 forever
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
August 06 2012 09:52 GMT
#85
I'm a big fan of aLive, sometimes he plays so damn smart. He improved the Flash 14CC SCV pull vs P, by adding another CC when doing the push with scvs. Bunch of cute moves with his marines, avoiding towers and stuff.

But I still hope Jaedong wins lol, he's on a tear.
That said, there's no way he beats aLive!
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Romano
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany60 Posts
August 06 2012 09:58 GMT
#86
uh... no tastosis? ((
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
August 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#87
Great read!
Jaedong <3
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 06 2012 10:13 GMT
#88
LEE
JAE
DONG!
AdministratorBreak the chains
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 10:56:18
August 06 2012 10:55 GMT
#89
Ooh, I missed they'd be playing in Mokdong. Let's see how JD and By.Sun will fare. Will definitely catch the VODs.
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Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 11:12:40
August 06 2012 11:12 GMT
#90
Why GOMTV has only Paid stream(normal quality)? its first WCS to be paid ..
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
August 06 2012 13:10 GMT
#91
What the... I can't watch vods w/o premium although its WCS?
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
August 06 2012 13:47 GMT
#92
I actual shivered reading the Jaedong v Alive description O_O
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
August 06 2012 13:51 GMT
#93

VOD Information:
- HQ VODs will be available to WCS Korean Nationals season ticket holders as well as Monthly Premium ticket

holders
- Free users will be able to access VODs 7 days after the original broadcast

So free users get the VODS 7 days later.

I thought we would at least have access to set 1 of every game, but apparently they didn't decide to make that free
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
khellian
Profile Joined February 2010
Korea (South)922 Posts
August 06 2012 14:12 GMT
#94
Jaedong fighting!

How I have looked forward to this! To bad he will most likely loose. But it's the start of things to come. Will be awsome either way!
Elios
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil277 Posts
August 06 2012 14:59 GMT
#95
So ... i must pay GOMTV to watch a Blizzard tournament? ... kinda stupid.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
August 06 2012 15:01 GMT
#96
Gom vs. KeSPA??

So much awesome!!! :-D
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
August 06 2012 15:08 GMT
#97
I just paid GOM 25 dollars for a premium ticket. Now why can't I watch these vods???
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
FATJESUSONABIKE
Profile Joined November 2011
184 Posts
August 06 2012 15:24 GMT
#98
On August 07 2012 00:08 Mozdk wrote:
I just paid GOM 25 dollars for a premium ticket. Now why can't I watch these vods???


dw sir, you're not missing anything.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
August 06 2012 15:41 GMT
#99
So when does the live stream start, or more importantly, when does Jaedong play ?
(and yes, I did try to find out myself before asking)
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 06 2012 15:50 GMT
#100
Elephants in the room notwithstanding, Alive's gonna roll Jaedong. Even if you make the case that the kings of BW are also the rightful kings of SC2 due to their exceptional mechanics, practice regimen or whatever (a notion with which I strongly disagree), there's just no way that they can rise to be world-class players in such a short time. Alive will win 2-0.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Ojahh
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Ireland728 Posts
August 06 2012 16:00 GMT
#101
*Elephants trumpet in the background*


We will never let that go
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chris5180
Profile Joined July 2012
198 Posts
August 06 2012 16:25 GMT
#102
thanks for this post! so excited for this!!!!!! :D:D
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 16:33:06
August 06 2012 16:28 GMT
#103
gogo elephant! Let that trumpet ring!

€: On a serious note: Alive will probably roll over JD, but on an other nother note, it means nothing. JD is still improving incredibly fast and a year from now on or so we will have the true chance to see whether he is an beasty mammoth or just a teddy elephantino.
Broodwar for life!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 16:35:10
August 06 2012 16:33 GMT
#104
doublepost, sry. may be deleted.
Broodwar for life!
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
August 06 2012 16:39 GMT
#105
I hope jaedong wins. That would be seriously fantastic.
Elegance, in all things.
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
August 06 2012 17:02 GMT
#106
another fantastic write up, gogo jaedong!!!!!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 06 2012 17:09 GMT
#107
There can be only one winner.

Come on Jaedong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have faith!!!!
o choro é livre
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13972 Posts
August 06 2012 17:09 GMT
#108
so far my bracket is looking good...if any1 is interested here is my top 10 to move to next round of WCS
10.MVP
9.Puzzle
8.HerO
7.Parting
6.Curious(ya I kno)
5.Squirtle
4.CoCa
3.Polt
2.DRG(tough choices here)
1.MC
but y no MKP or JYP in this? or Puma?
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
August 06 2012 17:25 GMT
#109
So hyped for jaedong - alive. Realistically jaedong doesn't stand a chance in hell, but I'll be rooting for him all the way in my hwaseung OZ jacket while I watch the match.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
August 06 2012 17:33 GMT
#110
JAEDONG!!!!!!!!!!!
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 06 2012 17:55 GMT
#111
The 2-0 against nestea needs to be better highlighted.
Jaedong :3
MyTHicaL
Profile Joined November 2005
France1070 Posts
August 06 2012 18:40 GMT
#112
Completely agree with all of the predictions~~. Though I would predict a 2-0 for aLive (unfortuantely )
aLive is my choice to win this thing so I find it a shame that the bw pureists will be shut down by the jaedong results ;x
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
August 06 2012 18:49 GMT
#113
----SPOILERS----

+ Show Spoiler +
Jaedong lost ;(
JAEDONG HWAITING
Trans Rights
siskind
Profile Joined September 2011
United States7 Posts
August 06 2012 19:33 GMT
#114
when/where can i watch this? on the east coast, USA.
strider2
Profile Joined July 2012
United States11 Posts
August 06 2012 19:39 GMT
#115
jaedong come back out of the losers bracket!!!
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
August 06 2012 21:50 GMT
#116
Such a shame that some low level players for some reason got auto seeded into the korean qualifiers, feel really bad for the 10 or so high quality players that had their spots stolen from them.
wizshaw2
Profile Joined October 2011
25 Posts
August 06 2012 22:13 GMT
#117
I knew Jaedong would get smoked. Alive is on a great team and is the better player.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-06 22:32:46
August 06 2012 22:32 GMT
#118
Goes without saying that I'd like our kespa players to pwn but.......realistically they're probably all going to get raped

If Jaedong manages to take a game or even make it a close 2-0, I will be so happy.

Edit:
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
YouMake
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States262 Posts
August 06 2012 23:37 GMT
#119
Stephano is Jaedong's idol i find that really riveting
It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum, but all out of bubble gum! - Duke Nukem!
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