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shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1104 Posts
May 20 2012 21:19 GMT
#241
On May 21 2012 01:48 The_Darkness wrote:
Never watched the SPL. Where can I see these games? Many thanks.


http://www.youtube.com/esportstv


That has all of the matches on it from last night.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
May 20 2012 21:19 GMT
#242
On May 21 2012 01:44 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 00:31 Theovide wrote:
On May 21 2012 00:01 Arghnews wrote:
HOYL FUCKING SHIT IT'S REALLY HAPPENING.

:DDDD So happy, can't wait to see the SC1 pros in a year or so in SC2.



Flash v Effort, and look at their macro. They never miss a beat, cept I think at the end Flash does and he needs to add more raxes, but for 98% of the game both of them, phenomenal play. Can't wait to see these guys with time :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not sure if Flash needed more raxes, he might have, but his biggest misstake was not getting enough tanks. Tanks are the key to zerg wave play. He could probably afforded to have put down 4-6 bunkers at the front as well.

Still though, that match was actually really nice, which isn't something that could be said about most of the other matches.

Also, how much I'd even want to join the protoss imba train, this is at least no show of that, it simply shows that terrans needs to know how to do TvP endgame to have a chance, meanwhile PvT endgame is really straightforward and thus maybe more easy to learn.


He tried to out macro Effort and that simply isn't feasible in TvZ unless you got for the Factory All-in before Broodlords. He went for a marine opening and didn't know how to exploit it and lost.

Flash went for a fast 3OC build that a lot of Korean Terrans have been pulling out, but Flash didn't pressure AT ALL, he literally only had 1 rax by the time he was building his 3rd OC. Once Effort scouted it, he just shot straight up to 80 drones, 4 bases, and fast upgrades, and got all the tech buildings he needed. It was over by then.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
May 20 2012 21:30 GMT
#243
This is absolutely fantastic, to hungover to take anything seriously, but when I am no longer hungover, I am reading all of this. Thanks for trying to bridge the BW and SC2 gap
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
May 21 2012 00:11 GMT
#244
damn thats some really nice layout work. great read too
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Darkman
Profile Joined April 2012
United States64 Posts
May 21 2012 00:15 GMT
#245
I feel like we are watching sc2 from the beta lol
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
May 21 2012 00:34 GMT
#246
When will Bisu be playing SC2 during this tourney?
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
May 21 2012 00:39 GMT
#247
So when is the next broadcast? Anyone know?
Bareleon
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
371 Posts
May 21 2012 00:45 GMT
#248
On May 21 2012 09:39 darkest44 wrote:
So when is the next broadcast? Anyone know?


I think 11 PM eastern time? Not sure on that one though.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
May 21 2012 01:13 GMT
#249
yeah. also asking myself hy tl has not updated the calendar with PL times.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 01:15:23
May 21 2012 01:14 GMT
#250
On May 21 2012 09:34 Bareleon wrote:
When will Bisu be playing SC2 during this tourney?

Next time SKT plays, + Show Spoiler +
he was supposed to play yesterday but the ace match in BW wasn't required so he has to play SC2 next


EDIT: Is no-one else seeing Upcoming events: 3h 46m [PL] Team 8 vs CJ??? It is on the calendar...
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
May 21 2012 02:36 GMT
#251
On May 21 2012 10:14 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 09:34 Bareleon wrote:
When will Bisu be playing SC2 during this tourney?

Next time SKT plays, + Show Spoiler +
he was supposed to play yesterday but the ace match in BW wasn't required so he has to play SC2 next


EDIT: Is no-one else seeing Upcoming events: 3h 46m [PL] Team 8 vs CJ??? It is on the calendar...

Excellent :D He was the one i wanted to see in Sc2 anyways
Darkman
Profile Joined April 2012
United States64 Posts
May 21 2012 05:01 GMT
#252
Team 8 vs CJ Entus is live

Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 07:56:00
May 21 2012 06:17 GMT
#253
is there a way to figure our the schedule for the entire proleague somewhere?

id like to arrange a meetup with friends if theres some interesting match during a weekend

Edit: didnt read the article until now , and this is pure GOLD , didnt knew the awesomeness of the teams and their history.

also TY for the intro to brood war , will be useful when watching.

parkLife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada125 Posts
May 21 2012 13:45 GMT
#254
OMG... just going to their youtube channel to watch all these super pros play Starcraft 2 for real.... JD playing SC2... wanna cry XD
In SC1, ZvZ was Rock-Paper-Scissors... unless JaeDong was playing, then it was Rock-Paper-Scissors-JD, and JD beats all of them.
Crow!
Profile Joined September 2011
United States150 Posts
May 21 2012 15:33 GMT
#255
These BW players quite clearly don't yet have any intuition for SC2. The games look like they're what would happen if you had someone play a few games in the beta and then told them to play a game now, umpteen patches later and with wildly different maps. Very frequent throwing away of armies and misuses of advantages, with an embarassing amount of 1-A siyndrome going on (this strikes me as the oddest; aren't they used to commanding units 12 at a time anyway?).

Seriously, I think most Diamond players on NA could have smashed the play they showed on this first day. A Zerg player moving his undetected burrowed roach ball away from the protoss stalker ball it was on directly underneath of, a Terran player running his whole army as one unit up a ramp, a Protoss letting his Zealots charge in one at a time through a narrow path to get kited to death, it was all painful to watch.

Presumably this will get better over time - in principle they already have all the requisite mechanical skills and just need to learn the basics of the game that even platinum NA players understand.
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
May 21 2012 16:50 GMT
#256
On May 22 2012 00:33 Crow! wrote:
These BW players quite clearly don't yet have any intuition for SC2. The games look like they're what would happen if you had someone play a few games in the beta and then told them to play a game now, umpteen patches later and with wildly different maps. Very frequent throwing away of armies and misuses of advantages, with an embarassing amount of 1-A siyndrome going on (this strikes me as the oddest; aren't they used to commanding units 12 at a time anyway?).

Seriously, I think most Diamond players on NA could have smashed the play they showed on this first day. A Zerg player moving his undetected burrowed roach ball away from the protoss stalker ball it was on directly underneath of, a Terran player running his whole army as one unit up a ramp, a Protoss letting his Zealots charge in one at a time through a narrow path to get kited to death, it was all painful to watch.

Presumably this will get better over time - in principle they already have all the requisite mechanical skills and just need to learn the basics of the game that even platinum NA players understand.


Are you really making that compareson?
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
May 21 2012 18:19 GMT
#257
Great article,thanks for all the info!
All I do is Stim.
Ripeace
Profile Joined January 2012
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 18:37:36
May 21 2012 18:35 GMT
#258
On May 21 2012 09:15 Darkman wrote:
I feel like we are watching sc2 from the beta lol


You didn't play the beta. :p Because they were all super greedy...
I feel like we are watching players with an insane macro and micro, but who don't know enough at the moment.

Jaedong, Effort and Flash were really impressive at Starcraft 2, but they just did some stupid mistakes.
Flash had a split and a macro as good as MKP and Jaedong made a great game where he was close to win even without knowing how to counter his opponent push. Effort just plaied perfectly but he had no realy pressure in front (even if I'm sure he can handle any pressure).
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-21 20:01:56
May 21 2012 18:54 GMT
#259
How come in the liquid bets it says Cj won? From what I remember, Lizzy (KT) crushed Effort (Cj) in the ace match..?

Edit: Are we only counting the bo3 SC2 match? lol. that's pretty lame.
Mmm, what to watch.
Shotglass
Profile Joined December 2011
8 Posts
May 21 2012 21:52 GMT
#260
a lot of those sc2 games felt like i was watchign a torunament from a year or even longer ago

and then it hit me where ive seen jaedongs strategy before
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