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February 1st, 2012 16:54 GMT
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  • RO16, Group A in Review
  • Code S, RO16 Group B Preview

Group A in Review


By: Waxangel

Group A: (T)IMMvp, (T)FXOGuMiho, (T)FnaticRCaLive, (Z)ST_Curious

Match One: Mvp vs Gumiho

Game One –

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Dual Sight

Gumiho opened with reactor-hellions into banshee, while Mvp opened with a typical gasless expansion. With Mvp getting a viking out in time to counter Gumiho's banshee, it looked like he would take the advantage as Gumiho played catch-up in the economy game.

However, Gumiho surprised Mvp with an off-beat, two cloak banshee timing, something Mvp did not see coming at all. In addition, he caught Mvp off guard in the ground war as well, hitting a timing where he had more reactor hellions than the meching Mvp. Unprepared on either front, Mvp lost over thirty SCVs, which ended up being game losing damage. Gumiho massed units, attacked Mvp with over four times the food count, and took the game

Winner: Gumiho
Game Two –
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Daybreak

The strategies for the two Terrans diverged after they took quick expansions. While Mvp went for mech as usual, Gumiho went for what seemed like a pure infantry composition. The game seemed to quickly go Mvp's way after a large chunk of Gumiho's army was picked off as it patrolled the middle of the map, but Mvp had forgotten to get sige mode and was unable to go on the offensive, despite having a 30 supply advantage. In fact, it was Gumiho who ended up taking his third base, while Mvp stayed on two bases while having a superior force.

Gumiho added mass vikings to his infantry, going for an unusual marines, medivac, marauder and viking composition, without any kind of tank support whatsoever. The mobility of this composition proved to be perfectly suited to Gumiho's multi-prong attack style, as an attack with landed vikings in Mvp's main and mass infantry at the front line cut into both Mvp's tank and SCV count.

With a smaller army and less expands, Mvp was forced into mech turtle mode. However, Gumiho continued to be relentless with his aggression, and never let Mvp settle into a position where he could just stand still and mass units. Gumiho abused his drops, landed vikings, and fleet footed stimmed infantry to make Mvp's life miserable. Gumiho kept cutting away, and eventually, there was no Mvp left.

Winner: Gumiho


Game Three –
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Gumiho won 2 – 0.


Match Two: Alive vs Curious

Game One –
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Bel'Shir Beach

Effectively, the game really began once both players reached three bases. Though there was a little probing here and there from each player, the game stayed mostly uneventful until both players had nearly maxed armies. Unfortunately for Curious, he still didn't have hive tech at this phase, and was faced with the proposition of using muta-bane-ling against Terran army that was essentially complete.

Instead of trying to fight the Terran army when it pushed out, Curious sacrificed his fourth base to counter Alive. Unfortunately, the counter did nearly nothing, and ended up weakening Curious' army for when he finally would have to fight Alive head on.

That happened when Alive went to deny Curious' attempt to take a new fourth base, and Curious decided if he wasn't going to fight for it, he was going to lose anyway. Curious' flank and baneling was okay, but he needed to be brilliant to have a chance. Alive denied the base, annihilated a giant chunk of Curious' army, and gave himself a commanding lead.

From here, Alive simply played safely and slowly to deny further expands while pushing only when he was completely safe. Curious continued to fight for a while, but he was clearly fighting an uphill battle. After losing one too many hatcheries he decided there was nothing more he could do, and GG'd out.

Winner: Alive


Game Two –
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Crossfire

Perhaps feeling the heat from playing on Crossfire, Alive went for a fast no-medivac, marine and tank push after a regular reactor-hellion open. Curious dealt with this tactic beautifully, cutting off reinforcements and overwhelming Alive later, but somehow Alive stayed on fairly even ground in terms of army count.

Alive attacked with a standard, medivac supported army later, this time laying siege to Curious's corner third base from nook below the ramp. Again, Curious patiently positioned an army to take out Alive's force – and again, Alive somehow traded well enough to come out on par with Curious.

After taking a third base, Alive went for yet another push, for the second time at the ramp below Curious' third base. This time around, Curious's coordination failed him completely, with his army that was supposed to flood in simultaneously from both sides of the ramp trickling in in easily destroyed clusters instead. It amounted to wholescale army donation for Curious, who was forced to GG out not long after.

Winner: Alive


Game Three –
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Alive won 2-0.


Winner's Match:

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Gumiho vs Alive


Game One –
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Cloud Kingdom

Both players agreed to play fifteen minute no-rush, taking three bases and getting maxed out armies. Alive went for mech while Gumiho went for tanks and bio. With Alive playing very defensively until he was maxed out and ready to move, Gumiho's trademark harassment and multi-pronged attacks did not come into play.

The result of the max-out fight decided the game, and not surprisingly, the guy with enough tanks to kill the opponent's army in a single volley was the victor.

Winner: Alive


Game Two –
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Entombed Valley

In a near repeat of game one, Alive simply turtled up and waited until he had a maxed out mech army to attack. Gumiho tried some strange tactic where half of his army ran into a bunch of tanks in the middle of the map while the other half ran into a bunch of tanks in Alive's base. This didn't work out so well for Gumiho, and he GG'd out of the game.

Winner: Alive


Game Three –
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Alive won 2-0.


Loser's Match:

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Curious vs Mvp


Game One –
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Cloud Kingdom

Mvp decided that he would continue the mech and max strategy that had been a trend throughout the day, allowing Curious to do whatever he pleased while he went for a maxed out mech army. Curious came to a similar conclusion as a previous Mvp opponent, FXO's Lucky. Just like Lucky, Curious figured that a Corruptor, Brood Lord, Infestor combo would beat whatever combination of Thors and Vikings Mvp could muster. And he was right!

Winner: Curious


Game Two –
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Antiga Shipyard

Mvp decided to abandon the mech part of his strategy from game one, but stuck to the turtling. Curious found himself in a similar situation as he was versus Alive, where he was staring down a giant bio army with his own nearly maxed muta-ling-bane army with no hive tech in sight. Forced to fight the slowly pushing Terran force, Curious botched the engagement and managed to have his banelings run in from a single direction at the head of his army. After that poor engagement from Curious, all that was left for Mvp was to go into clean-up mode.

Winner: Mvp


Game Three –
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Crossfire

Having lost to Terran deathballs three times in the same day, Curious decided he would try an entirely different approach. Instead of fighting his opponent, he countered. Everywhere his opponent was, Curious wasn't. Or in other words, Curious used the precise tactics that had brought him such great ZvP success.

The results were surprisingly decent. Curious's backdoor attacks did an okay amount of damage, and Mvp often looked a bit flummoxed by being forced to chase Curious around the map. Curious looked better than he had in any of his other games.

That said, he didn't actually win the game. Though his backdoor attacks were doing fairly well, he wasn't doing enough to take an economic lead in the game. For all his troubles, Mvp did a good job of making sure Curious' economy didn't get out of control, and the incomes stayed fairly even all game. Eventually, Curious was forced to fight Mvp head on, and one last poor ZvT engagement later, he found himself back in Code A.

Winner: Mvp


Final Match:

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Mvp vs Gumiho


Game One –
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Entombed Valley

Mvp used an aggressive opener, going for cloaked banshees into a marine-tank push. It was not an all-in push however, as he built an expansion during the push. On the other hand, Gumiho went for a standard gasless expand and an infantry heavy follow-up.

The way Gumiho reacted to Mvp's push decided the game. Seeing that Mvp's troop count was too great, Gumiho decided to temporarily lift his expansion command center while diverting half his marines to cut off any troops that came to reinforce. Once he had stim and his first two medivacs, he would pick up the marines he had at home, join up with his other marines in the middle of the map, and go for a big counter-attack.

Or so, that was the plan. Instead of leaving his army static and doing nothing, Mvp simply unsieged and started to march home after forcing the command center lift. The way the timings worked out, Mvp's main army and reinforcements sandwiched Gumiho's splinter force just as the two medivacs full of Gumiho's reinforcements arrived. If Gumiho had been a few seconds faster, he would have got all of his marines on the ground before the fight. Instead, he ended up dumping his troops two by two into Mvp's meatgrinder, a mistake he only realized after he had lost his entire force. Gumiho decided not to dwell on the mistake for longer than necessary, GG'd, and moved on the the next game.

Winner: Mvp


Game Two –
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Antiga Shipyard

There were shades of GSL July as both players opted to mech in the second game. Thankfully, the play was much more refined from the dog days of 2011, with complicated, difficult to execute tactics all around. Well, that's only half a joke. Yes, a blue flame runby did roast a ton of SCVs to give one player an advantage for almost minimal effort. At the same time, vikings played a role in the harassment as well, using their mobility to attack otherwise unexploitable gaps in defense.

Not surprisingly, the player who was doing the harassing was Gumiho, and he made the normally rock-solid Mvp look very off balance. After taking a big economic lead, Gumiho was able to simply outspend Mvp, overrunning him with twice as many tanks.

Winner: Gumiho


Game Three –
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Cloud Kingdom

In one of the most ironic games in Code S history, Mvp spent most the game hurling his bio army fruitlessly at Gumiho's impenetrable mech defenses, only to be flattened in a single volley of siege tank fire once Gumiho decided to move out.

Winner: Gumiho




Notes and Comments


New #1

To say Mvp had a bad day is an understatement. Not only did Mvp play poorly, but he was beat at his own game of mech TvT by a 47% TvT win-rate Terran player. It's rare enough to see Mvp lose, rarer still to see him get humiliated.

Obviously, anyone can have a bad day, and one bad day does not undo months of success. Nestea had a bad few months last year, but he seems to be coming back strong. It's a good bet that Mvp will be able to bounce back from this setback, just like he did last year when he was bumped back to Code A. Then, he took second place in the Code a tournament, strolled through his up/down matches, and went immediately back into championship contention. But for now, that leaves us with a burning question: Who is the best player in the world?

I strongly believe that the best player in the world title should be based around fairly recent performances. If we're talking best player of the last four-months-or-longer-period, there's no question that it's Mvp, but he's out of the picture for who's the hottest player right now. The clear answer for me, and probably for a lot of fans, is SlayerS_MMA. Since dropping out of Code S November to FXO_z, he's been 34 - 8 in all competitions. Along the way, he picked up championships at the Blizzard Cup and IEM Kiev. No one has been even close to being that dominant in the same period.

Had Mvp crushed his group today, I wouldn't award the #1 spot to MMA so easily. I would favor MMA, but it would still be a contest. Mvp would have had the benefit of the doubt. I would have said "Well, MMA just had more chances to play and show how good he was, Mvp could have done the same if he had played in those exact same situations." However, Mvp played poorly, and it would be unfair not to pass MMA the crown, at least for the time being. Hey, it's clear to me, although someone in this same article will say it's too soon...

Now, all I have to do is hope I didn't jinx MMA for his upcoming games.


Mass producing, but not mass produced

If you get past the shock of Mvp getting beaten in mech TvT, then you realize that the two Terrans who advanced ahead of him played very well to do so. Alive got lost in the crowd of gold base abusing, blue flame spamming Terrans of '11, but he's setting himself apart as of late. Though most people can't stay awake long enough to tell the difference between boringly efficient players, Alive is doing it better than almost everyone else. Alive 'standarded' (this should be a word) himself to four straight wins, playing turtle mech in the way Mvp does – in Artosis' dreams. That's no insult: being entertaining is a luxury, winning is the only true necessity.

Though if we do want to talk about entertainment, Gumiho provides an interesting contrast. With impeccable macro and an uncontrollable desire to always be doing something, Gumiho can bring life to nearly any game. That frenetic energy had Mvp spinning in circles and losing SCVs, something we've rarely ever seen happen. When the Gumiho met Alive in the winner's match, it was a fascinating clash of styles. Alive's identity was stronger in the end, and he looked like a black hole that sucked the joy straight out of Gumiho's play (and also sucked marines within range of dozens of tanks).

Whichever style you prefer, it's great to have both players in Code S. Though Terran domination might not be completely over, it's good to see that the more generic ones have dropped out, and the ones with their own identities are the ones that remain.

Code S RO16, Group B Preview


By: Fionn

MMA's Road to the Throne



(T)SlayerS_MMA


Well, yesterday's matches didn't go as planned, did they? MVP, who looked like he had constructed the perfect group to get out of, having every single person he wanted to face in a single pool, lost four games out of five to the player who he thought was weakest in the entire round of sixteen, the new ViKing of the GSL, FXOGumiho. Amazingly, only 1.7% of the viewers who voted on GOM's website didn't believe the #1 ranked player in the world would advance and were pleased to see that their outrageous prediction came true.

Now, what does this mean for MVP's rival and closest competitor to his Terran throne, the ace of Slayers, MMA? Well, it's pretty straight forward: MVP didn't play well last night. Gumiho, in those five games, severely outplayed MVP at what MVP does best and that is going mech. Now, it's surely possible that MVP was sick or wasn't feeling his absolute best during the games, but facts are facts.

MVP hasn't won a GSL title since August. Since Mvp beat TOP in the GSL August finals, MMA has won two GSL's (counting the Blizzard Cup) and on his way to the title, he beat MVP twice to get his trophy. Once, in the finals of the October season, and again in a complete mauling in the semifinals of the Blizzard Cup. Ever since losing to Polt in the round of sixteen in GSL August, MMA has only been eliminated once, and that was in the quarterfinals of last season to FXO_z.

If MMA can get through this group (which, mind you, on paper is much tougher than MVP's seemed beforehand), then the discussion on who truly is the best Terran, and maybe player in the world, can start to pick up. MVP has been the undisputed best player in the world with Nestea as second for a long time now, but while the Incredible Miracle duo isn't winning championships, MMA continues to get to the finals and win.

This is a very tough group. It will test MMA's weakest match-up in TvP, and put him against one of the hottest Terrans in the world and new ace of oGs, SuperNova. The last time MMA faced Oz, it was in team league, and due to a quick bunker at Oz's usual fast natural expansion, the game was over quick. Oz lost a quick stalker to the bunker and was unable to recover against the double expanding SlayerS ace.

Getting to a final would put MMA in exclusive company alongside MVP, being only the second player to get to four GSL finals. And considering his superior head to head record, MMA will have the upper hand if he ties Mvp. The road to the throne of best player and best Terran are ripe for the taking. For the past year, it has been under the complete control of the Big 3, MC, MVP and Nestea, but it might be the time for the Emperor's Son to claim what is rightfully his.


(P)FXO_z


The most important lesson that Oz must know before going into this group:

BE READY FOR MMA'S BUNKER

MMA absolutely loves to open up against players who prefer to go expansion first with a quick bunker to put on early pressure. He especially likes to do it against FXO players, almost always throwing up a pillbox against Leenock early when the two face off in the GSL. The last time MMA went for quick pressure against Oz, a player who loves taking his natural fast, it worked better than he could ever expect. Oz's economy was crippled, killing a few of his units and even allowing MMA to double expand behind it.

The Wizard of Aiur came out on top of their quarter-final bout in Code S November, taking a very close five game series. As most of you all know, MMA, and Slayers Terrans in general, have a hard time against Protoss. Here's a fun fact for everyone at home: in MMA's three finals in the GSL (Super Tournament, October and Blizzard Cup), guess how many Protosses he had to beat on the way?

Three? Nope.
Two? Nope.

In his three trips to the finals, he has only had to play a Protoss once. Who was that Protoss? That would be Naniwa from the Blizzard Cup, and in that single game, he did a straight up Thor rush and almost bungled it in an impossible manner. So MMA might be, right now, the best player in the world, but he hasn't been tested much when it comes to fighting against the warriors of Aiur.

Whether or not he beats MMA, Oz's next opponent is bound to be tough. He will have to face either a strong PvP player in Puzzle, or a 70% vsP player in SuperNova. With a Code A finals and Code S semifinals in his past two tournaments, a quarterfinal appearance would be a big statement for Oz, showing people that he is a consistent, top-tier players. If he can get past MMA, getting out of the group first isn't out of the question.


(P)SlayerS_Puzzle


Puzzle has all the tools to be the best Protoss in the world. His APM is insane. His micro is insane. He has possibly the best practice partners in the world at his disposal. He has a legend, Boxer, as his head coach. After his Code A championship, he was a player that you looked at and were just sure that he would be in a GSL finals some day.

But, for Puzzle, his time as a promising newcomer is coming to an end, and there are new stars on the rise to take his place if he can't get farther than the RO16 this time around. Like Bomber, another player who failed to even to make a semifinal after being touted as a future GSL champion, Puzzle has a lot of pressure on him going into this group. He has the talent to make it out in first, even over his teammate MMA, but his decision making will have to be better than it was in the November tournament and in his RO32 group. Though he was able to make it out in second place, I didn't feel that the two opponents he beat, Nada or Keen, were playing at a very high level that night.

Puzzle's first series of the pool will be against SuperNova, a player coming in with huge confidence due to his outstanding Ro32 and heroics in the GSTL. Puzzle will need to play much better against this Terran than he did against Keen and Nada to make it through. A lot like Alive, when Puzzle is on, he's really unstoppable, but when he's off, he's no different than any other Protoss who has been crushed in the past GSL's.


(T)oGs.SuperNoVa


How can you do this to me, Supernova? I picked you at the start of GSL November to destroy absolutely everyone and become the best Terran in the world. You then proceeded to lose both your games and fell into Code A. Now, after I predicted you to be eliminated, you take on the Group of Death in Leenock, MC, and Fin, destroy everyone and make it out in first place? Alright, SuperNova, I see how it is.

Coming into this group, Supernova's confidence has to be at an all-time high. He not only beat the best Protoss in the world, MC, but he also was able to crush Leenock, one of the best TvZers in the world who was coming off a dominating win of his own against Fin. Couple that with his clutch rescue of oGs in their match against ZeNEX, where he won two games in a row as the last player left on his team, you have a player who believes that no one can beat him if he's at his best.

People should start fearing the newly crowned ace of oGs. He's a former Brood War pro, has some of the absolute sickest mech play in the universe, and he is finally starting to turn his talent into wins. If he can be confident and play like he did against Leenock and MC, there is no question that he can be your January champion.

In only a few short months, he went from a middling Terran, a gate keeper of sorts in Code S, probably ranked behind two or three other Terrans on his team, to becoming the unquestionable top player on his team and the #1 dark horse candidate in Code S. Who wants to play this guy right now? I'm surprised he wasn't the last one picked in group selections with how strong his performances have been in the past few months.

So with that said, the only logical conclusion is that we should get the $50,000 check ready, give SuperNova a crown and start celebrating GSL SuperNovanury for when he wi -

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Okay, maybe not.

Predictions:

MMA > Oz
SuperNova > Puzzle
MMA > SuperNova
Oz > Puzzle
Oz > SuperNova

MMA and Oz advance


Warning: Out of the five groups I have predicted this GSL season, all five players I picked to win their groups have been eliminated. Four out of the five finished last in their group, with only MVP finishing a place higher in third. Please fill out your Liquibets with extreme caution.
















Art by Fishuu

Following Losira-Cat's elimination from Code A, we are looking for a suitable replacement.




Writers: Fionn and Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko and Pony Tales (disciple and Lip the Pencilboy).
Editor: WaxAngel
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juked
Profile Joined May 2010
United States691 Posts
February 01 2012 17:00 GMT
#2
So sad what happened to MVP. Maybe we can see some new up and coming stars
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
February 01 2012 17:00 GMT
#3
No doubt Mvp will bounce back - stronger than ever.
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weeA
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India442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 17:02:25
February 01 2012 17:02 GMT
#4
Nice read!
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dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
February 01 2012 17:05 GMT
#5
my bet on dark horses!

1.Puzzle
2.SuperNoVa
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
February 01 2012 17:08 GMT
#6
Awesome write up, very excited to watch MMA play, and love how many protoss we have in the line up (well 2 isnt that much, but better than recent months).
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
GoingGoingGone
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Slovakia529 Posts
February 01 2012 17:19 GMT
#7
My bets were exactly the same even before this article came up. That makes me a bit nervous.
Busy night, but there's always room for another... unless the servers are down.
Moneyscoop
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany31 Posts
February 01 2012 17:19 GMT
#8
So did MVP go to RO8 now or not?
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
February 01 2012 17:20 GMT
#9
MMA will be 1st, but I don't think Oz will advance. :S
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 01 2012 17:23 GMT
#10
Supernova is just really fucking good. Like, almost MMA in TvZ and TvMVP good. And given MMA's games vs Feast and vs Oz last GSL, Supernova is about 10 times as good at TvP.

Honestly, if Supernova can avoid MMA he has a good chance of not dropping a game this group. And I'm dead serious.
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
February 01 2012 17:24 GMT
#11
What a crazy turn of events, MVP dropping out...
MonDeW
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark369 Posts
February 01 2012 17:32 GMT
#12
This is so hard to pick a winner from - both because of the sick group, and because of which i like the best. MMA is one of my favorite players, but i remember seing Oz winning against him in November, and i thought, "Wow, that guy is gooood". SuperNova is so awesome imo, and i love seing him progress, especially because he is on my second favorite team.
And then, the guy from my favorite team, Puzzle.

Awesome group, sad that Mvp had such a bad day
Kazuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
February 01 2012 17:40 GMT
#13
If MMA won't make it out of his group, I will blame you forever Fionn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
phar
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1080 Posts
February 01 2012 17:43 GMT
#14
On February 02 2012 02:19 Moneyscoop wrote:
So did MVP go to RO8 now or not?

He goes to Code A round of 24.
Who after all is today speaking about the destruction of the Armenians?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 01 2012 17:48 GMT
#15
On February 02 2012 02:23 SeaSwift wrote:
Supernova is just really fucking good. Like, almost MMA in TvZ and TvMVP good. And given MMA's games vs Feast and vs Oz last GSL, Supernova is about 10 times as good at TvP.

Honestly, if Supernova can avoid MMA he has a good chance of not dropping a game this group. And I'm dead serious.


Happy birthday!

Yeah, the Fionn curse seals it. Supernova to take first.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 01 2012 17:49 GMT
#16
Poor Fionn.

He really is cursed.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Phays
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
February 01 2012 17:54 GMT
#17
Awesome writeup big <3 to you

I've got same predictions as you, but after all this group is insane so it is hard to predict anything at all.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
February 01 2012 18:09 GMT
#18
Supernova got third place in the INSANE Korean WCG entrance tournament. That was rounds and rounds of games over two months and he got through over so many bigger names which takes consistency in all three matchups. Not saying he's the best but he's got to be favoured against anyone who isn't the best (or TheBest).
Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
February 01 2012 18:18 GMT
#19
You and your predictions! ;;
“It's like poker. You can play your best, but you've got to know when to fold your cards and take a rest, and know when to hold your cards, hold your breath and hope that nobody else is stacking the deck."
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 01 2012 18:37 GMT
#20
I've predicted exactly the same as you.... oh no
@followMVT
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 18:51:23
February 01 2012 18:41 GMT
#21
GSL need a new king, an old generation one.

I bet'ed on Supernova and MMA, but i feel like one of the two protoss can definitly make him fall to code A.
Then if Nestea fall too, this GSL might be starting to be strange but kinda exciting. :<
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
February 01 2012 19:00 GMT
#22
poor Mvp
go SuperNova!
Zvenn3n
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden1196 Posts
February 01 2012 19:33 GMT
#23
Fionn's gonna jinx it again
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 19:37:15
February 01 2012 19:35 GMT
#24
Lol... That makes my liquibet easy. Supernova and Puzzle to advance!

Seriously tho, I do think MMA is gonna have A LOT of trouble with this group. Having to beat at least one protoss and maybe two? That's rough man. I'm Liquibetting Supernova and Oz
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
dekarp
Profile Joined December 2011
286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 20:02:12
February 01 2012 19:54 GMT
#25
Okay.

₩ 10,000,000 on Supernova, not only advancing, but taking first in his group, please.
https://dotabuff.com/players/110773298 divinereps on reddit.
kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
February 01 2012 19:56 GMT
#26
eager to see how mma's tvp has improved.
Laplaces_imp
Profile Joined January 2012
368 Posts
February 01 2012 19:57 GMT
#27
Man this is an awesome group, I hope MMA is able to show quite clearly that he is better then MVP. I also really want to see puzzle advance as i there aren't that many big name toss players and he plays for SlayerS which is just cool. At any rate best of luck to all players, should be some awesome games in here ^^
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
February 01 2012 20:02 GMT
#28
wow... what happened? o_O
My religion is Starcraft
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 20:08:44
February 01 2012 20:08 GMT
#29
This group is so goddamn hard. MMA the best player in the world atm. Puzzle and Oz, the two best protosses in the world atm imo. Also supernova who seems pretty fucking good atm. atm atm atmatmatm
crack
Tortious_Tortoise
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States944 Posts
February 01 2012 20:11 GMT
#30
How about a fOrGG monkey? Explanation is spoilered

+ Show Spoiler +
fOrGG is The Pretender Terran because he often listens to The Pretender by Foo Fighters on stream. Foo Fighters also wrote and performed the song Monkey Wrench. Pretender Terran--> Monkey Wrench--> Pretender Monkey--> fOrGG monkey :D
Treating eSports as a social science since 2011; Credo: "The system is never wrong"-- Day9 Daily #400 Part 3
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
February 01 2012 20:13 GMT
#31
NOOO why you pick MMA to win? ):
Players: MMA, Boxer, Ryung, Life, TaeJa, Squirtle, Brown, Dark,
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
February 01 2012 20:13 GMT
#32
FIONE! My prediction was Supernova Puzzle. Thankyou so much.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
CowWithGun
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden18 Posts
February 01 2012 20:28 GMT
#33
Wow everyone in this group is really good, with the exception of MMA an Supernova, they are really fucking good. This could be the finals now that MVP is out. Sorry toss Oz and puzzle.
BaconofWar
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 20:44:36
February 01 2012 20:29 GMT
#34
Ok, well I predicted supernova going though, so thats a good thing!
Plus, I came into E-sports really late, back when MVP was winning the last of his GSLs. I saw MMA come onto the stage and absolutely kick the ass of every player around him, including MVP, and so I have the impression that MMA is waaay better than MVP. Now any doubts I had are set in stone. Welcome in the new Terran king people. The second emperor
Well, C9 is the best right now
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
February 01 2012 20:33 GMT
#35
FXO... Z!

So hyped for this, Oz and Puzzle, calling it
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
February 01 2012 20:42 GMT
#36
Artosis counter jinxes Fionn's jinx by predicting Oz and Supernova to win the group. He makes the proper motions with his twisted snake tongue wand. But he pronounces words strangely, and the jinx only fires at half strength!?

Please, careful with that thing -_-
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
February 01 2012 20:52 GMT
#37
I think it's gunna be SuperNova and Oz who make it out unless MMA has stepped up his TvP
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 01 2012 20:58 GMT
#38
I hope for MMA and Puzzle to advance!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
February 01 2012 21:00 GMT
#39
Supernova and MMA, but my heart says Oz
리노크 👑
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
February 01 2012 21:03 GMT
#40
Fionn is the new Kim Carrier.
Go go Alliance.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 01 2012 21:06 GMT
#41
off some amazing advice from the author, I have picked supernova and puzzle to advance.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
February 01 2012 21:22 GMT
#42
After reading this, i instantly picked SuperNoVa and Puzzle...
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 01 2012 21:26 GMT
#43
I predict MMA and supernova.
AmICool
Profile Joined June 2011
Bulgaria15 Posts
February 01 2012 21:46 GMT
#44
All 4 players should advance , but cause it is not possible and I want to see more interesting matches. I pick Oz and Puzzle
Power of the Swarm
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
February 01 2012 21:47 GMT
#45
hi Fionn Carrier
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
February 01 2012 21:57 GMT
#46
I told you guys MVP was overated. Still a beastly player, but overated.
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2070 Posts
February 01 2012 21:58 GMT
#47
Haha.... nice warning fionn.....
Oppa feeding style
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
February 01 2012 22:07 GMT
#48
I think that we're honestly claiming too much out of the skill difference among players at the top when realistically anyone can take games off of anyone else at the highest levels. Hell, if there were such clear favorites then we'd probably have more people with 80%+ liquibets.

At any rate, I'd like to see Fionn's liquibet stats. haha.
Gameplay > Personality
Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
February 01 2012 22:09 GMT
#49
impossible to predict this group..
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
February 01 2012 22:13 GMT
#50
Oz / Supernova.
supraWman
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany453 Posts
February 01 2012 22:20 GMT
#51
Oh No, i liquibetted on Oz/MMA before Fionn picked them. I'm f***ed...
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
February 01 2012 22:22 GMT
#52
Fionn, can you stop predicting results? The Jinx is just unfair

Fionn - The OP race.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
February 01 2012 22:32 GMT
#53
So looks like Supernova and Puzzle will advance :D.

Too bad I liquibetted the opposite already. Nice article.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
February 01 2012 22:36 GMT
#54
Hahaha "youbetternotjinxmemotherfuck.png" that made my day :D
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 01 2012 22:44 GMT
#55
its ok i have shitty picks this season too
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 01 2012 22:46 GMT
#56
Fionn curse now comes with a disclaimer...
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
February 01 2012 23:15 GMT
#57
Thanks Fionn! Im now sure that Supernova will advance :D
Tosho
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia498 Posts
February 01 2012 23:41 GMT
#58
Nice write up as always. I'm adding a second rule to my Liquibetting now... 1. Always bet against the foreigner. 2. Always bet on exactly the opposite of what Fionn predicts.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 01 2012 23:41 GMT
#59
Hahaha nice disclaimer Fionn. As much as we laugh at the curse, if both MVP and MMA fall because of it I'll begin to believe in your magical powers.

Expecting MMA and Supernova to advance, but as said MMA's TvP is probably a weakpoint.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
February 01 2012 23:44 GMT
#60
It should have been Mvp aLive. Gumiho cheeses MVP in all the games so that's that. And aLive sent Curious back to where he belongs, well almost to where he belongs for a player of his skill level.
(ノ `Д´)ノ︵┻━┻
SpecFire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1681 Posts
February 01 2012 23:47 GMT
#61
plz dont jinx mma
•|SlayerS_MMA| • Ryung • Fin • Puzzle •
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
February 02 2012 00:07 GMT
#62
+ Show Spoiler +
MVP didn't deserve to go on at all, im happy it was alive with his superb mech. Sad that its one less zerg, as zerg myself I could really use some inspiration right now...
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
February 02 2012 00:12 GMT
#63
On February 02 2012 08:44 devPLEASE wrote:
It should have been Mvp aLive. Gumiho cheeses MVP in all the games so that's that. And aLive sent Curious back to where he belongs, well almost to where he belongs for a player of his skill level.


Gumiho didn't play cheesily, he just played well. And I don't even like Gumiho, he is a second rate TvT player by Korean Standards. But the overworshipped Mvp was due a fall, and am I glad that he got it. He's not been in form for a long while now.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 02 2012 00:14 GMT
#64
nuuu don't get rid of the Losira-cat...at least leave me that much
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 00:54:16
February 02 2012 00:54 GMT
#65
i see how it is...u purposely picked Oz so Supernova will win. good one
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
February 02 2012 01:07 GMT
#66
Supernova and oz ;3
Dear Sixsmith...
Trolle
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Sweden227 Posts
February 02 2012 01:27 GMT
#67
1. MMA
2. Oz or SN
meep meep
devPLEASE
Profile Joined March 2011
Kenya605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 01:34:49
February 02 2012 01:34 GMT
#68
Nice write up. I love everything TL writes
(ノ `Д´)ノ︵┻━┻
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
February 02 2012 01:35 GMT
#69
On February 02 2012 08:44 devPLEASE wrote:
It should have been Mvp aLive. Gumiho cheeses MVP in all the games so that's that. And aLive sent Curious back to where he belongs, well almost to where he belongs for a player of his skill level.


Cheese? Did you even watch the games? ._. Jesus people will call ANYTHING cheese these days, I mean what the fuck o.o
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
February 02 2012 02:01 GMT
#70
On February 02 2012 09:12 Falconblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 08:44 devPLEASE wrote:
It should have been Mvp aLive. Gumiho cheeses MVP in all the games so that's that. And aLive sent Curious back to where he belongs, well almost to where he belongs for a player of his skill level.


Gumiho didn't play cheesily, he just played well. And I don't even like Gumiho, he is a second rate TvT player by Korean Standards. But the overworshipped Mvp was due a fall, and am I glad that he got it. He's not been in form for a long while now.

Not in form for a long while? 0/10. Rofl go back to troll college..
He just won 2 tournaments in December the only recent losses he had were to MMA (2x GSL champ) and Nestea (3x GSL champ)
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
February 02 2012 02:16 GMT
#71
Unfortunately I can't see the tosses getting out of this. Those two terrans are monsters.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-02 02:36:35
February 02 2012 02:34 GMT
#72
Mc just wait
qtime 4 another finally



MC for president
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
February 02 2012 02:52 GMT
#73
NOOO, why do you jinx on MMA?
Squisher_
Profile Joined August 2010
43 Posts
February 02 2012 03:01 GMT
#74
heya waxangel, just want to say that i soooo appreciate your writeups. You have amazing talent as a writer, that transcends starcraft, and is just quality stuff.
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
February 02 2012 03:11 GMT
#75
Why is the Blizzard Cup a GSL tournament, it offers GSL points for ranking, the format was so poorly done that i see it not even worthy to be a special GSL tournament like GSL-WC.
hnim
Profile Joined July 2011
United States86 Posts
February 02 2012 03:14 GMT
#76
On February 02 2012 09:12 Falconblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 08:44 devPLEASE wrote:
It should have been Mvp aLive. Gumiho cheeses MVP in all the games so that's that. And aLive sent Curious back to where he belongs, well almost to where he belongs for a player of his skill level.


Gumiho didn't play cheesily, he just played well. And I don't even like Gumiho, he is a second rate TvT player by Korean Standards. But the overworshipped Mvp was due a fall, and am I glad that he got it. He's not been in form for a long while now.


He seems to be on a downward trend but overworshipped? Nobody has been as consistently good as him for the past 4 months. GSL August 1st, GSL October 2nd, Blizzcon 1st, Global Invitational 1st, GSL November 3/4th, AOL 1st, WCG Korea 1st, MLG Providence 4th, WCG 1st, Blizzard Cup 3/4th. I'm fairly sure this is the first time since GSL July that he hasn't made top 4 in a tournament he's entered.
Mvp fanboy
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 02 2012 03:15 GMT
#77
Lol, now that he has stopped his jinxes, Fionn will get all of these exactly right. He jinxed his jinx!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Moobutt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1996 Posts
February 02 2012 03:38 GMT
#78
Fantastic write up. Thanks for all the hard work!
3/22/16 The Day EG Died
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
February 02 2012 04:28 GMT
#79
YES! THANK YOU FOR VOTING AGAINST SUPER NOW HE'LL MAKE IT! :D. In all seriousness though, no matter how this group turns out, it's gonna be REAL interesting. One thing that's great is that a protoss or supernova at the LEAST is a given out of this group, meaning I'll either get to be happy for oGs, or learn some pvp/t from Puzzle/Oz, which is also cool.
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
February 02 2012 04:30 GMT
#80
Always nice to see a front page headline that spoils some of the results of the previous night's matches.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
February 02 2012 04:34 GMT
#81
Yep, Puzzle and Supernova advance
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 02 2012 06:09 GMT
#82
I see what you did there...!

Oz and SuperNoVa gogogo! :D
#freeshauni
Devilry
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden19 Posts
February 02 2012 06:17 GMT
#83
Got a feeling Oz will be eliminated, please dont let it be so
Mirosuu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
England283 Posts
February 02 2012 06:25 GMT
#84
The scary thing about SuperNoVa is that he doesn't really have a bad matchup (see MMA and MVP vs P). He's known for really good TvP, and has feats like beating DRG in TvZ and also a solid TvT.

If he keeps up this impressive play, I can see him being the champ this season.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 02 2012 06:26 GMT
#85
I'm cheering for Supernova and Oz.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
February 02 2012 06:28 GMT
#86
Well, Fionn places his bet on MMA.

Time to bet on someone else.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 02 2012 06:34 GMT
#87
Made a mistake. You said MVP was beaten by 2 Terrans when in fact the only Terran he played was Gumiho, though he did play and lose to Gumiho twice.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
February 02 2012 06:59 GMT
#88
On February 02 2012 01:54 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

Predictions:

MMA > Oz
SuperNova > Puzzle
MMA > SuperNova
Oz > Puzzle
Oz > SuperNova

MMA and Oz advance


I see what you did there...you reallly want supernova to advance :p
Btw I'm wondering why Mvp still go mech in TvZ, it seems like he has a 0% winrate in mech vZ....

Juanald you're my hero I miss you -> best troll ever on TL <3
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
February 02 2012 07:18 GMT
#89
I see what you did there...... but I did my LB before you posted this article Fionn.....

MMA and puzzle advance please!
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
February 02 2012 07:24 GMT
#90
Damn you Fionn !!!!!!!!!
farside604
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada127 Posts
February 02 2012 07:47 GMT
#91
I've gotten into the bad habit, which I had broken recently, of staying up late to watch the GSL matches live. Today I will get back into the habit to watch MMA, and maybe group 4 aswell.
IXJesteR
Profile Joined January 2012
United States7 Posts
February 02 2012 08:03 GMT
#92
I see MMA and Oz advancing. Puzzle hasn't been playing his best it seems, even though he has managed to get to the Ro16. As for SuperNova, I can see the possibility of him getting through. He's definitely capable, but at the end of the day I see MMA and Oz going through.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
February 02 2012 08:22 GMT
#93
i feel like genius is actually the hottest player right now, not mma
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
February 02 2012 09:22 GMT
#94
fionn has spoken :O
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
February 02 2012 11:19 GMT
#95
ouch. puzzle wins.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17958 Posts
February 02 2012 11:25 GMT
#96
Lol, I love the disclaimer on your predictions. Btw, I'm chearing for Supernova in the next two games :D
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
February 02 2012 12:06 GMT
#97
at least Fionn got one right....
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
February 02 2012 12:09 GMT
#98
Can we start the sacrifice of Fionn already, coz the Gods of SC aren't pleased ? :D
... Humanity Is Not What I Suffer From ...
Kazuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
February 02 2012 12:47 GMT
#99
FIONN... 1-1 now MMA vs Oz... You'd better hope that MMA wins!!! :p
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
February 02 2012 12:52 GMT
#100
Replacement for Losira-Cat? Why? There is no cat more cute.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Kazuki
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands121 Posts
February 02 2012 13:02 GMT
#101
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAA YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS <3
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
February 02 2012 16:24 GMT
#102
Alive's mech play against Gumiho were boner inducing - it was not high on drama but it was so beautiful I can shed tears watching it.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
February 02 2012 22:02 GMT
#103
man i predicted sooo much guess its a sign!
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
February 03 2012 01:25 GMT
#104
I honestly have no idea who to bet on this season. I couldn't believe when I woke up and saw that Gumiho had beaten MVP... I think Supernova deserves some serious consideration, but I think I'll agree with your picks of Oz and MMA advancing. Can't wait to watch ^___^
"Sen, lings are OP" - HelloKittySS /// <3 http://www.twitch.tv/legendre20 <3
Gengar
Profile Joined March 2011
United States13 Posts
February 03 2012 02:24 GMT
#105
I'm sorry for trolling (i guess) but I am not a fan of any game review waxangel has ever done! They are incredibly bias and always make the games sound way less awesome then they were. I think a change is in order, I mean this is teamliquid for gods sake. WE LIKE SC HERE. PLEASE WRITE THESE LIKE THEY ARENT HOMEWORK.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
February 03 2012 03:05 GMT
#106
On February 03 2012 11:24 Gengar wrote:
I'm sorry for trolling (i guess) but I am not a fan of any game review waxangel has ever done! They are incredibly bias and always make the games sound way less awesome then they were. I think a change is in order, I mean this is teamliquid for gods sake. WE LIKE SC HERE. PLEASE WRITE THESE LIKE THEY ARENT HOMEWORK.

With everything in life, writers are subjective people - for instance, I really liked the Alive vs Gumiho series but Waxangel didn't like them. Maybe you need to check out the LR thread for recommended polls because they are based on more people's opinion.
Xenocryst
Profile Joined December 2010
United States521 Posts
February 03 2012 23:26 GMT
#107
MMA is soooo pro
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10324 Posts
February 04 2012 03:27 GMT
#108
nice writeup!

just wondering why type Mvp but MMA instead of MVP? xD

Since I like MMA more than MVP, I'm glad he lost. Gumiho is like the terran leenock, haha. For reasons that should be obvious? Anyways, he is rapidly improving, so yay. Alive also has been usually really good, just not very consistent I guess. I wonder if he'll keep improving or just flop out and flop in like he's been doing.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 04 2012 12:54 GMT
#109
really nice write up, MMA definitely the best player in the world right now
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tommym
Profile Joined August 2011
42 Posts
February 04 2012 13:25 GMT
#110
MC might take this one
Siard
Profile Joined July 2011
Slovenia26 Posts
February 05 2012 10:44 GMT
#111
i would rather say Supernova will advance then Oz, dunno just my gut feeling
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