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[GSL] Liquid`Jinro, EG.IdrA - Code S Group H Foreigner Sp.

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[GSL] Liquid`Jinro, EG.IdrA - Code S Group H Foreigner Sp.

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January 12th, 2011 01:39 GMT
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GSL Code S Group H Foreigner Special: Liquid`Jinro, EG.IdrA
By TrueRedemption and Hot_Bid


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11 LiquidJinro vs EGIdrA 5 @ Jungle Basin
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Idra unexpectedly opened pool first only to be matched by Jinro’s 2 rax marine opening. Neither opted for any early aggression, content instead to establish their naturals. Idra began wearing down the rocks to Jinros natural, but a supply depot and marines kept it from getting too far. As Jinro’s natural began to kick in he added two more barracks, a factory, and a starport. Idra’s baneling nest finished simultaneously with his lair, allowing baneling speed to start soon thereafter. Jinro made the first significant move, poking out as stim finished to check for a quick third as Idra started his spire. Having not found a hatch and aware his stim timing no longer held the advantage, Jinro retreated back home just as Idra began his side third. Continuous scouting with a single stimmed marine spotted the hatch not long after, but it did not trigger a Swedish push. As Idra’s flock of mutas took control of the map they were met by a thor volley and well placed turrets, preventing any harass. Jinro made the next move, pushing out with marine medivac tank just to the center expansion, defensively sieging up to safely establish his own third.

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Both players on 3 bases, 160+ supply. Total units lost = 4 zerglings, a marine, and an overseer.


With pressure back on Idra and little to no harass success, Idra opted to take Jinro’s side expansion. At the same time, Idra’s muta pack finally found a hole, slipping in behind the terran natural, but Jinro's response was game changing. He defended the mutas with a nearby thor and some marines from the main while a marine tank force from his 3rd pushed towards Idras 4th to force a cancel and simultaneously dropping Idra’s 3rd and killing a number of drones.

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Jinro's impressive multi-tasking not only earned him a considerable edge on Idra, it was even too much for the new observer to follow.


Unable to harass or assault Jinro’s position, Idra needed to make something happen and attempted to expand to the center, but a small drone transfer to his third was caught by Jinro who had begun crawling in that direction. This triggered Idra to attack, his army taking out only half the marines but most of Jinro’s siege tanks while preserving the muta flock. Jinro seized the moment and very briefly exposed his third, pushing forward with the surviving marines and forcing Idra to cancel his 4th yet again.

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Jinro was so excited for his next move he nearly left before Idra had even canceled the hatch.


Idra quickly replaced his zergling baneling force just in time to defend another push headed to his third, again taking out the majority of the terran army, but still Idra was unable to break the terran front.

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Sooooo Mannny Muuutaas


With minimal drones at his third and without a 4th, Jinro’s transition to marine thor tank was too resilient for Idra to damage the Gorilla terran’s economy. Running dry and without the army to make something happen Idra GGed out.

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Jinro's position was simply too strong for Idra to break.


1 EGIdra vs oGsEnsnare 7 @ Xel Naga Caverns
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Even Ensnare’s computer could feel the tension in the air after the Jinro vs Idra match, and mere seconds after the game started a mouse error forced an early pause. When things resumed Ensnare opened reactor before rax into an immediate factory for two super early hellions. Idra opened hatch first and scouted the factory at the front and immediately started a roach warren. Four roaches hatched for Idra just as the hellions reached his natural, preventing them from doing any damage. Ensnare started a command center behind the hellions, which allowing Idra to harass the terran wall until a tank completed and chased them off. Ensnare moved out in sync with his blue flame upgrade, a small marine, tank, and hellion push managing to snipe a few drones, before retreating from the roach army. Idra’s spire and baneling nest finished and while his initial mutas were deflected at the main, he was able to snipe a siege tank and force a big stim, Ensnare having not even started a starport for medivacs nor begun a third CC. Ensnare began to push out with a marine marauder siege tank push, but Idra’s muta control allowed him to slow it down and force yet another stim.

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Without Medivacs forced stims had doomed this push before it even reached Idra's 3rd.


Just outside the zerg third, Idra engaged and easily cleaned up the terran force with units to spare as his 4th and 5th hatch were building. Ensnare was years behind after the failed timing push, but he was able to set up a planetary at the gold expansion as Idra chose to invest his advantage into an even larger economic lead. A now massive gaggle of mutas returned to terrorizing the terran natural and main, sniping a few turrets and SCVs but losing a comparable number of mutas in the process. The muta harass continued, Idra using his economic advantage to keep Ensnare constantly on the back foot and delay his 4th as the 5 zerg expansions mined untouched and a hatch finished at the last remaining expansion. Resilient to the constant pressure, Ensnare became maxed himself just as a few broodlords finished morphing. Ensnare attempted to harass the side expansions as Idra's broodlords above the middle cavern attempted to bait out Ensnares vikings, failing a couple times before a well placed fungal growth caught all the vikings and gave his broodlords room to work. Aware of the danger, Ensnare sent a small bio force to Idra's third, pulling back the zerg army and minimizing the momentum as he scrambled to replace his vikings. Idra was confident in the damage the broodlords had done however, he moved in and wiped out Ensnare’s nearly mined out gold and both armies were wiped out.

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Honestly I was surprised the planetary fortress didn't survive.


Idra used this opportunity to tech switch hard to 19 ultras, absolutely trampling the moderate terran force as it was moving out to attack Idra’s 6th. It turns out little can stop that many raging ultralisks, they continued on to Ensnare’s natural, finally cashing in on the massive macro advantage Idra had held all game in a convincing win.

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Reminiscent of Nestea vs Maka g2 of GSL3, Broodlord into re-maxing with Ultras is one of the strongest finishing moves in the game.


11 LiquidJinro vs CheckPrime.WE 5 @ Jungle Basin
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Jinro opened with marine hellion pressure against Check's hatch first, managing to catch an overlord and a couple early zerglings before even reaching Check’s main. Some fantastic micro put Jinro even further ahead, managing to kill off more zerglings and a queen.

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It's difficult to show how big a lead Jinro had right here. Leading minds in the field could only describe it as "really big, like even bigger than his chin big".


The push was cleaned up as zergling speed finished, and Check ran his remaining speedlings to the Terran main. Jinro thought he secured his wall with a factory, but mistakenly left a tiny gap. Check's lings wrecked havoc, killing numerous SCVs and scouting Jinro’s transition, putting Jinro well behind in harvester count. A banshee finished and finally cleaned up the zerglings but the damage was done, both players stabilized and macroed for a bit.

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Remember how crushed you were when Tasteless spoiled that Santa isn't real? This must have felt like that, times a hundred.


Check tried to take his side third, but the banshee scouted it and with some marine support Jinro was able to force a cancel just as mutas raced over. Check was determined to establish a third however, he double expanded to the side expansions, but his attempt to muta harass was met firmly by a thor. Jinro made the next move, sending marine squads to each side expansion. He was able to snipe the hatchery on his side, but Check defended the other with ease. Slowly clawing his way back into the game, Jinro moved out to try and take a center third but Check was pushing with a large roach force and overlords loaded with banelings. Unable to hold, Jinro was pushed back into his main, wisely deciding to grow his advantage rather than attempt to end it right there. Desperate for a third, Jinro used a marine drop in the zerg main to pull Check’s entire army back and allow the terran army to set up at the middle expansion. For a brief moment a dream comeback seemed possible, but Check would have none of it, intelligently splitting his army for a massive flank that crashed through Jinro’s position.

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With the flank and using overlord drops Check minimized the splash and therefore the strength of Jinro's defensive position.


Almost entirely starved, Jinro mounted one final attempt to take a third, but Check’s roaches were far too much. Out of resources and units, Jinro’s only option was to type out.

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We have all lost games like this, but few have in a situation like this, and only a champion could shake it off, turn around, and play their best in a career changing final game 5 minutes later.


8 LiquidJinro vs oGsEnsnare 6 @ Lost Temple
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Both players open standard. Ensnare opted for a reaper to scout, but Jinro was well prepared and denied scouting at the cost of a marine. Jinro opted for a blue flame hellion drop, but Ensnare’s own marine marauder drop hit first, Jinro being in perfect position to defend it. After getting a couple free marine kills, Jinro followed through with his drop - a couple of hellions and marines dropped in the back and a hellion at the front, but despite some incredible medivac micro, Jinro was unable to do economic damage. After a brief macro period Ensnare made the next move, a large 3 medivac bio drop including a siege tank, Jinro immediately pulled his main's SCVs to help defend, but he lost most of them in the process putting Ensnare up 37 to 18 SCVs.

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Charging all the SCVs in to soak damage can be great, but losing half your workers and winning a war of attrition 40 minutes later is usually not quite how it goes.


Jinro’s cloaked banshee managed a few kills but not near enough before being scanned and killed. Aware of his lead, Ensnare broke down his rocks looking to expand, but a very successful hellion drop at the natural suddenly turned everything around, giving Jinro a 6 harvester lead. Both players turreted up and established their thirds, Ensnare again making the next move pairing a 16 marine drop while moving the rest of his army forward. Jinro was in position to punish the advancing army, costing Ensnare much of his tanks and bio, but the marine drop was doing a lot of damage to the natural. Jinro immediately counter dropped into Ensnares main, taking out an armory and couple of production buildings, but cost him most of the SCVs at his natural. Both players took their 4th bases. A couple more well defended drops gave Jinro momentum, but in an attempted counter drop Jinro did equally little damage as both players settled in to fully splitting the map. Jinro made the next move, pushing just slightly into the middle in an attempt to draw Ensnare in, but instead Ensnare tested Jinro's awareness by swinging his army over to siege up below the main, and although a portion of Jinro's army was unprepared, Jinro ultimately did more damage than he took.

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Macro phases were broken up by intense complex army engagements, both players pushing dropping retreating and trapping with different parts of their army at the same time.


Ensnare was far from done however, swinging back to the far side and punching a temporary hole in Jinro’s defense and keeping the armies close. Ensnare had a momentary lapse shortly after, losing a fair number of units unnecessarily, giving Jinro a bit of momentum. Ensnare continued dropping in slightly unfavorable trades until a small drop snuck into Jinro’s 5th as Jinro was moving forward, bringing the game back to a standstill. Ensnare next massed a group of vikings and momentarily took air dominance from Jinro, but was unable to capitalize before Jinro reclaimed his viking count lead. As the game continued on towards mining out, Jinro got a fusion core. Ensnare moved again towards the cliff of Jinro’s main, but Jinro again blocked, killing off a large portion of Ensnare’s ground army and pulling further ahead in Vikings which he used to harass Ensnare’s main, doing damage but ultimately losing most of his vikings. These were quickly replaced however as the first battlecruisers joined the battle.

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Jinro's trusty Battlecruiser Tank Viking composition transition at the 47th minute.


As Jinros army moved towards Ensnare’s 5th, Ensnare countered right down the middle, catching a portion of Jinros army. Jinro landed the vikings to hold the bio, but this allowed Ensnare to easily focus-fire down the battlecruisers. Ensnare couldn’t handle Jinro’s vikings as they returned to the air however, and suddenly Ensnare found himself mined out while Jinro still had two mining bases. As Ensnare’s last troops rallied to the front and Jinro started destroying whatever he could get his hands on, Ensnare realized his blood sweat and tears were not enough this game, and typed out in what was easily the most epic TvTs in SC2 thus far.

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After 6 bases worth of resources and 50 minutes, this was Ensnares last desperate defense to keep from getting Jinrolled. Not good enough.


11 EGIdra vs CheckPrime.WE 5 @ Jungle Basin
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Idra opted for hatch first into a quick roach warren, Check alternately going pool first with slight zergling pressure, Idra relying on good zergling positioning and his queen to hold his ramp. Check began a baneling nest, but when his lings caught sight of a roach he immediately canceled the nest to get a roach warren of his own. Both players macro up, Idra getting his evo chamber first and starting +1 ranged, meanwhile Check used his zergling advantage to mostly break down Idra’s backdoor rocks as both players teched to lair. Idra's overseer caught sight of Check’s building spire, allowing him to get hydras and 4 spore crawlers pre-emptively. Check started a hatchery at Idra’s side expo, and by pulling Idras army with his mutas the backdoor lings were able to finish breaking down the rocks and get a few drone kills before being chased off. Idra moved out, using his superior roach hydra army to take out Check’s third. On the way a roach flank caught Idra’s hydras in bad positioning, but Check’s quick decision to retreat cost him his mutalisks, giving Idra the green light to start a hatch at his center expansion and push towards Check’s main.

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The decision seems easy from this perspective, but Check's decision to retreat right here may have cost him a spot in the Ro16.


Check’s large roach force led Idra’s army around in a circle, allowing him to force Idra to cancel his third but costing him a few roaches thanks to Idra’s pursuing army.

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Check caught in a game of Grack and mouse.


As the merry-go-round once again came to Check’s main, Idra stopped chasing and moved into Checks main. Check’s massive roach army put up quite a fight, but Idra managed to prevail thanks to a set of reinforcements that streamed into Check’s base, clinching a victory for the Gracken.

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These reinforcing roaches show that in the end it came down to what Idra trusts most, Macro Prevails.





TLAF-LiquidJinro Ro32: The Aftermath


Congratulations!

The last time we interviewed you it was after your loss to MC in the GSL3 semis, but now we're back to a winner's interview. This group was a roller coaster of emotions for you.


Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. That second game, god damn. I feel both great and terrible. Great because I passed the group, terrible because my misplaced factory wall in game 2 cost Ensnare a very good chance at advancing, as he'd have had Lost Temple TvZ the last game......

Did you talk to your teammate Ensnare talk after the games?

A little yeah, I just said I'm sorry for screwing up game 2. But he took it well as always, hes a great guy, and we talked during dinner.

Let's go through the games. You played Idra first. Do you have a lot of experience against his style?

I think IdrA plays kinda similar to Ret, and the oGs guys all know how to play lots of styles... so yeah, I'm reasonably familiar with it. Jungle is a very methodical map for terran tho so I felt like I could follow the same blue print against almost everything. Once you get center you are extremely hard to stop.

Given Idra and oGsZenio's rivalry, was he particularly happy to help you practice?

Haha, I don't know, I'm sure he was extra eager for me to win tho :D

Your second game against Check started off well for you but ended in disaster. What happened?

I just placed my factory one spot to the right too far. I played only the build I used vs Idra for the past 3-4 days because the oGs guys thought it would be better vs his style, so I sort of had to stop to think about how to wall with the other build, which led to mistakes. Oh well, still almost won after losing like half my SCVs. =_=

What was going through your head when the lings got through?

"$&*# ! I promised Naz I wouldn't lose to this" Usually when I mess up early game, I start taking silly risks because I figure, "whatever, it's not worth playing if I can't get this addon up etc, like switching add ons with speedlings running around below my ramp. Nazgul said "do that in GSL and I kill you!! "

So Victor (Nazgul) is very involved in your practice?

I send him all my practice games, he's like a full coach. So many small refinements bear the Nazgul mark in my builds.

That's cool, how is his analysis compared to your teammates in the oGs-Liquid house?

It's different. He's not a terran player so his advice tends to be more small details or ideas and less match up specific advice. He's not like, busting out TvZ theory, but he asks good questions and based on them suggests strong refinements and just things like how the build is faring against other builds.

So it was his idea to leave a gap in your wall right?

Yeah, it was a mind game, didn't pay off haha

We can laugh about it now, but what were you thinking between the Check and Ensnare games? You made a frustrated post on the forums.

I needed to de-tilt, so slamming out some "dsuidghfdasdf"s on TL seemed like a good idea.

It seemed to work, as you played quite well against Ensnare. How did you calm yourself for that set?

Nothing specific, just tried to focus on the game once it started -- it usually works pretty good, I only had to catch myself from reminiscing about what could have been once or twice while scouting. It's a very good thing I didn't have to wait long between sets.

Do you play Ensnare often in practice? Are all the games like that? Many fans are saying it's one of the best TvTs they've seen.

I haven't played him in a while, I haven't had to play any TvTs for anything so it just never came up. We've had some cool games, but I think one was the coolest. I know he has had some even more insane ones though, like vs TOP during Blizzcon qualifiers way back when, also on LT. Now THAT game was insane.

The game was very back and forth, did you have a late game plan? When did you know you had the game?

No plan outside of the normal TvT late game of getting BCs and vikings once it gets too heavy on the ground and your eco can support the switch. I knew I had it when he GG'd.

You seemed quite happy after the win. You're now going to stay Code S. Did you feel the pressure during these games?

It was mostly to do with the game being so insane really. I'm sure the rest played a part, but a lot of the pressure is just wanting to prove it wasn't a fluke last season, more pride really.

You are in the same Round of 16 group as oGsMC, who eliminated you 4-0 in the semifinals of GSL3. How do you feel about facing him again?

Good and bad, mostly bad because it makes it less likely we both advance to the next round. Win or lose I'd like to have a better game vs him tho, and hopefully me and him can battle it out of this group together.

Any last words? Good luck in the next round, hopefully we'll do another winners' interview.

Thanks to Zenio, JookToJung, Luvsic, Cezanne, Junwi, LeenockfOu, Crystal[inca], Ret, and anyone else I might be forgetting, for all the help in practicing for this. Thanks to Nazgul for reviewing all my games as always and refining all my builds. Sorry to Ensnare for not winning game 2 =[. Thanks to everyone for watching, I hope the next interview will be for as happy a reason as this one!



Next Up: Ro16 Group Stage!

No fan of starcraft could deny Group H was anything less than amazing to watch, but this is only the first round for our foreigner heroes, the GSL is now in full swing as the top 16 will continue to duke it out and ultimately crown a champion. Is this the season the Gorilla Terran or the Gracken rise above the rest? Despite their thrilling and exhausting victories today theres no rest for the handsome as the saying goes. Be sure to check out (T)Jinro as he takes on (T)MarineKingPrime.WE and (Z)EGIdrA as he faces (T)TSL_Clide in Groups D and C this Friday and Saturday!

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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 01:41:45
January 12 2011 01:41 GMT
#2
very very nice play by jinroooo ^^ gsl champion? I think so
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Sliver
Profile Joined April 2010
United States402 Posts
January 12 2011 01:42 GMT
#3
IdrA fighting! Great write up, tonight should be just as good.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
January 12 2011 01:43 GMT
#4
Thanks for the interview. And GL in the ro16, Jinro!
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
January 12 2011 01:44 GMT
#5
oh god how the hell did i miss this.

please tell me there'll be a replay pack of sorts!
savior & jaedong
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
January 12 2011 01:45 GMT
#6
On January 12 2011 10:44 Arterial wrote:
oh god how the hell did i miss this.

please tell me there'll be a replay pack of sorts!

There will not be a replay pack.
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lazydino
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada331 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 01:54:40
January 12 2011 01:45 GMT
#7
Nice. I didnt catch the jinro post, can someone fill me in?
"I have this moron thing that I do, it's called thinking" - George Carlin
uSiN
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
January 12 2011 01:50 GMT
#8
I just bought the premium package today because of this group and totally satisfied with the result.

On a side note <3 chat channels.
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
January 12 2011 01:54 GMT
#9
Execllent post
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
January 12 2011 01:56 GMT
#10
On January 12 2011 10:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 10:44 Arterial wrote:
oh god how the hell did i miss this.

please tell me there'll be a replay pack of sorts!

There will not be a replay pack.

why do you have to break my heart on a daily basis hot bid
savior & jaedong
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
January 12 2011 01:57 GMT
#11
JINRO FIGHTING!!!! AND HE'S VERSUS MARINEKING OMFGOMFOGMFOGMOFGMOFMGOFMGOFMGFOMGFOMG!

Clide vs Idra will be intersting, didnt artosis and tasteless say something about Clide being their adopted son?
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
January 12 2011 02:00 GMT
#12
Yeas thx for interview... TL hwaiting!
Baerinho
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany257 Posts
January 12 2011 02:00 GMT
#13
just watched the vods, omg what an amazing set of games.

grtz Jinro
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 12 2011 02:00 GMT
#14
Sweet, Jinro one step closer to bathing in dolla dolla bills~
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
January 12 2011 02:03 GMT
#15
One of the greatest days in GSL, games were amazing, and the TvT jinro played showed a glimpse of the possible future!
Deindar
Profile Joined May 2010
United States302 Posts
January 12 2011 02:04 GMT
#16
Jinro HWAITING! I honestly hope he and MC make it out, but I want to see a great PvT in any case!!
EG|Liquid|QxG|DTG fighting!
Phelski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States142 Posts
January 12 2011 02:06 GMT
#17
amazing series this morning
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 12 2011 02:10 GMT
#18
On January 12 2011 10:56 Arterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 10:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 12 2011 10:44 Arterial wrote:
oh god how the hell did i miss this.

please tell me there'll be a replay pack of sorts!

There will not be a replay pack.

why do you have to break my heart on a daily basis hot bid


For large tournaments in korea, it's fairly standard that they don't release a replay pack - OSL/MSL never did it in broodwar either.

for TL events, such as TL opens, there are released replay packs for various reasons, but those are TL run events, and the policy changes based on the type of event.
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DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
January 12 2011 02:11 GMT
#19
I imagine HuK would make an excellent practice partner for Jinro's match with MC.
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 02:18:33
January 12 2011 02:17 GMT
#20
Holy shit so awesome! So Idra and Jinro advance?

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TAKE THAT KOREANS!!!!!! ITS ABOUT TIME!!!!!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
HunterStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
January 12 2011 02:18 GMT
#21
On January 12 2011 11:11 DeltruS wrote:
I imagine HuK would make an excellent practice partner for Jinro's match with MC.


I disagree because Huk's playstyle is completely different from MC. Huk's four gate can't hold a candle to that of MC. After getting 4-0d the first time round I find it hard to picture Jinro winning that particular matchup. And I wanna see MC lose too - Which Korean Toss was calling MC cocky in the interview??
oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
January 12 2011 02:18 GMT
#22
Congrats Jinro. You put up some amazing games.
An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 12 2011 02:18 GMT
#23
On January 12 2011 10:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 10:44 Arterial wrote:
oh god how the hell did i miss this.

please tell me there'll be a replay pack of sorts!

There will not be a replay pack.

But they can still buy the season ticket for VoDs...this series alone is worth it.
HunterStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
January 12 2011 02:25 GMT
#24
On January 12 2011 11:18 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 10:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 12 2011 10:44 Arterial wrote:
oh god how the hell did i miss this.

please tell me there'll be a replay pack of sorts!

There will not be a replay pack.

But they can still buy the season ticket for VoDs...this series alone is worth it.


Oh F yea ... The season ticket is $10 you get like 500 hours of content rofl
SuperRonnieGuy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7 Posts
January 12 2011 02:27 GMT
#25
Jinro Fighting!!
Corthalis
Profile Joined October 2010
Indonesia1 Post
January 12 2011 02:30 GMT
#26
On January 12 2011 11:18 HunterStarcraft wrote:
And I wanna see MC lose too - Which Korean Toss was calling MC cocky in the interview??

It was Check.Prime, not a toss.
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
January 12 2011 02:45 GMT
#27
Very pleased IdrA and Jinro advance, pretty hard group and I was feeling like they both would be eliminated lol, IdrA vs. Jinro is a pretty good game to watch!

So happy to see them succeed+ Show Spoiler +
2:1
in their groups.
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Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
January 12 2011 02:46 GMT
#28
Every game in this series was absolutely irresistible one way or another.
Roomso
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden38 Posts
January 12 2011 02:47 GMT
#29
It was a long time since I got this excited about videogames
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
January 12 2011 02:52 GMT
#30
On January 12 2011 11:25 HunterStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 11:18 deth2munkies wrote:
On January 12 2011 10:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 12 2011 10:44 Arterial wrote:
oh god how the hell did i miss this.

please tell me there'll be a replay pack of sorts!

There will not be a replay pack.

But they can still buy the season ticket for VoDs...this series alone is worth it.


Oh F yea ... The season ticket is $10 you get like 500 hours of content rofl

Sadly, 490 of those hours are group H alone. I'd pay 20 to watch these games, though.
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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
January 12 2011 02:53 GMT
#31
Oh my god, this makes me so happy. I got the liquibet for the group right!

THAT PICTURE OF JINRO MAKES ME SO SO HAPPY.
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darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
January 12 2011 02:54 GMT
#32
I love how the two foreigners get placed in the same group only for them to both advance.
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
January 12 2011 02:56 GMT
#33
Was expecting Idra's interview too, but oh well, this interview's much better than the one in Fomos/PlayXP.

Good luck on the next round, Jinro. And keep up the great work, coach Naz.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 12 2011 02:57 GMT
#34
On January 12 2011 11:18 HunterStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 11:11 DeltruS wrote:
I imagine HuK would make an excellent practice partner for Jinro's match with MC.


I disagree because Huk's playstyle is completely different from MC. Huk's four gate can't hold a candle to that of MC. After getting 4-0d the first time round I find it hard to picture Jinro winning that particular matchup. And I wanna see MC lose too - Which Korean Toss was calling MC cocky in the interview??



I was about to type the something similar regarding HuK and MC but then I saw your post. While I agree HuK and MC are two separate animals in terms of play styles I wouldn't count out Jinro yet. MC was a beast in GSL3, but from what I've seen he's been tailing off as of late. I think they'll give us a good show.
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
January 12 2011 03:02 GMT
#35
On January 12 2011 11:54 darklordjac wrote:
I love how the two foreigners get placed in the same group only for them to both advance.


Yeah, no one saw that coming. Interesting how it turned out.
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Jacopana
Profile Joined September 2009
El Salvador210 Posts
January 12 2011 03:26 GMT
#36
Foreigners Fighting!! Jinro!! Idra!! they are awesome! Jinro most xD
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
January 12 2011 03:39 GMT
#37
I know people like calling Jinro "Gorilla Terran" but it's sorta goofy to just repurpose a nickname that already belongs to a legendary SC1 player =[
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Rowa
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium962 Posts
January 12 2011 03:41 GMT
#38
Gorilla Terran belongs to Jinro's dreams, thus making him legally the owner of the title
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LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
January 12 2011 03:50 GMT
#39
oh will there be a golden mouse award if you win three GSLs?

im looking at you MC
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
January 12 2011 04:15 GMT
#40
That was a nice game but I was very surprised to see that both players let each other take a 3rd base. Watching these two players freely establish a 3 base MULE and a 3 base 4 hatch on Jungle Bassin was quite a uneasy feeling; I knew that the game would go crazy and that the outcome would be gruesome.

GG Jinro ! Good game senses and good overall unit control.
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Altern
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1053 Posts
January 12 2011 04:16 GMT
#41
Man! I can't believe I fell asleep before watching Code S, guess those silly code A games put me to sleep -_-
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
January 12 2011 04:18 GMT
#42
Thanks for the fast write up. Had no clue what the LR thread meant by roach ring arround the rosy.
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happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
January 12 2011 04:20 GMT
#43
On January 12 2011 10:44 Arterial wrote:
oh god how the hell did i miss this.

please tell me there'll be a replay pack of sorts!


Just pay the $10. I finally did and it's worth every penny. I may be living off of cereal and ramen but who cares! I get to see epic SC2 games!(without screwing up my schedule like it did last semester)
SpaceYeti
Profile Joined June 2010
United States723 Posts
January 12 2011 04:23 GMT
#44
The season ticket is definitely worth it to anyone considering. And as an added bonus, you get to contribute to the proliferation of esports. Win win!
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
January 12 2011 04:34 GMT
#45
Such epic games from all players. The code A matches between Butterflyeffect and LittleBoy left me kinda worried about the state of SC2, but damn. The code S games were just absolutely insane. The skill gap is ridiculous.
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Mirosuu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
England283 Posts
January 12 2011 04:51 GMT
#46
On January 12 2011 13:34 Draconicfire wrote:
Such epic games from all players. The code A matches between Butterflyeffect and LittleBoy left me kinda worried about the state of SC2, but damn. The code S games were just absolutely insane. The skill gap is ridiculous.



I agree with you. I don't worry so much though, as I'm sure theres tons more people around the world way better than those you currently see in Code A. Which is a shame really, that they can't get out there and show what they can do.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
January 12 2011 04:54 GMT
#47
There's a lot of guys in Korea itself who can easily perform in Code A. Haypro and Huk being two of them obviously they are better than a lot of the players you see. But it's not just Haypro and Huk there are tons of Koreans as well who are going to make it in. It makes sense because Code A is partially based on games from a long time ago. Give it some time and you will see a much higher level of play in Code A. The system just didn't allow for that in GSL4 yet. GSL5 will be much better the open Code A qualifiers will be really tough.
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hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
January 12 2011 05:14 GMT
#48
On January 12 2011 13:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
There's a lot of guys in Korea itself who can easily perform in Code A. Haypro and Huk being two of them obviously they are better than a lot of the players you see. But it's not just Haypro and Huk there are tons of Koreans as well who are going to make it in. It makes sense because Code A is partially based on games from a long time ago. Give it some time and you will see a much higher level of play in Code A. The system just didn't allow for that in GSL4 yet. GSL5 will be much better the open Code A qualifiers will be really tough.

But it would also be fair to say that this test run of GSL definitely missed out on a big opportunity to impress spectators with superior play. The good thing is, it's early and the tournament really has a high ceiling
Cybren
Profile Joined February 2010
United States206 Posts
January 12 2011 05:30 GMT
#49
the GSL seems kind of structured around code A, considering how outstandingly difficult it is to remain code s (1 game group play? Yeouch!))
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
January 12 2011 05:45 GMT
#50
On January 12 2011 14:14 hmsrenown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 13:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
There's a lot of guys in Korea itself who can easily perform in Code A. Haypro and Huk being two of them obviously they are better than a lot of the players you see. But it's not just Haypro and Huk there are tons of Koreans as well who are going to make it in. It makes sense because Code A is partially based on games from a long time ago. Give it some time and you will see a much higher level of play in Code A. The system just didn't allow for that in GSL4 yet. GSL5 will be much better the open Code A qualifiers will be really tough.

But it would also be fair to say that this test run of GSL definitely missed out on a big opportunity to impress spectators with superior play. The good thing is, it's early and the tournament really has a high ceiling

I disagree. Only now in the Code S matches and as the Ro16 starts are we getting consistently awesome matchups. The first three seasons were all preliminary to setup the talent/skill filter that BW starleagues have had momentum with for years. Now that the filter is in place, things will only get more awesome.
Mindflow
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (South)320 Posts
January 12 2011 05:47 GMT
#51
Huk is more a late macro game play rather than MC a early cheeser type play. But hopefully Jinro will smash through this next round and win it for the foreigners!!! TL HWAITING
BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
January 12 2011 05:47 GMT
#52
"Remember how crushed you were when Tasteless spoiled that Santa isn't real? This must have felt like that, times a hundred."

Made me lol.
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 12 2011 05:51 GMT
#53
Jinro and idra teaching korean how to play entertaining sc2 games
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walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
January 12 2011 05:55 GMT
#54
On January 12 2011 13:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
There's a lot of guys in Korea itself who can easily perform in Code A. Haypro and Huk being two of them obviously they are better than a lot of the players you see. But it's not just Haypro and Huk there are tons of Koreans as well who are going to make it in. It makes sense because Code A is partially based on games from a long time ago. Give it some time and you will see a much higher level of play in Code A. The system just didn't allow for that in GSL4 yet. GSL5 will be much better the open Code A qualifiers will be really tough.



Well said. Just from watching stream's from players in Korea (Huk, Idra, TheWind) it's pretty obvious there are more than a few players capable of showing excellent matches who most foreign fans have never heard of. I think the quality of matches will definitely be on the upswing.
Balthasar
Profile Joined January 2011
United States33 Posts
January 12 2011 06:11 GMT
#55
Group H games were all awesome in general. Gratz to Jinro and the Cracken!
freeto
Profile Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
January 12 2011 06:11 GMT
#56
"Idra used this opportunity to tech switch hard to 19 ultras"

lol sounds like an idra game all right :D

dat macro
"So they've got us surrounded, good! Now we can fire in any direction, those bastards won't get away this time!" - Chesty Puller
Pondo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia283 Posts
January 12 2011 06:16 GMT
#57
Huge props to Nazgul for always going well beyond his role as a manager for his players!

Can't wait for the next round of Code S! :D
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
January 12 2011 06:17 GMT
#58
Nice recap of all the games I missed! Jinro and IdrA advancing makes the foreign scene proud. Sad to see Jinro facing MC in his group once again; I hope he learned a few lessons from their series.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 12 2011 06:18 GMT
#59
On January 12 2011 10:45 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 10:44 Arterial wrote:
oh god how the hell did i miss this.

please tell me there'll be a replay pack of sorts!

There will not be a replay pack.

There was a Jinro replay pack a while back in the TL weekly.

So watch that :D
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 06:22:07
January 12 2011 06:21 GMT
#60
My GOMPlayer was lagging too hard so i turned it off after Jinro vs Check, but i'm so fucking happy to see my two of my favorite players advance.

Fuck yeah foreigners!!!!
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MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
January 12 2011 06:27 GMT
#61
Man that made me so happy to hear that both foreigners actually were able to advance. I just hope IdrA is able to stick it to TSL_Clide!!
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Coramoor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada455 Posts
January 12 2011 06:30 GMT
#62
great games all around, very very exciting group capped off by a hilarious roach on roach chase

glad to see both foriegners and extremely sad to see littleboy lose as it seems lke if it weren't for the DC, he'd have won game 1 and that might've changed everything
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
January 12 2011 06:36 GMT
#63
Such amazing games! :D

Truly inspiring to see Jinro MURDERING HIS ENEMIES
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FlashIsHigh
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States474 Posts
January 12 2011 06:40 GMT
#64
This game was worth staying up till 8:30 in the Morning, but plz wrap it up quicker next time Jinro
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MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
January 12 2011 06:49 GMT
#65
Is "reactor before rax" a normal phrase, sounds like you're getting the add-on before the rax.
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fabulously
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway724 Posts
January 12 2011 06:59 GMT
#66
Great interview and writeup, thanks! The games yesterday were insane, so happy both Jinro and Idra made it out of their group

Welcome back ROOT-gaming - you were never forgotten <3
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 12 2011 07:02 GMT
#67
Go Jinro! He's the best!
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Antedelerium
Profile Joined June 2010
United States224 Posts
January 12 2011 07:09 GMT
#68
The look on Jinro's face when he won was just absolutely amazing. It's good to see an outcome like this, and hopefully he and Idra do well in the next round. Awesome writeup/interview
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PeaNuT_T
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden326 Posts
January 12 2011 07:16 GMT
#69
On January 12 2011 10:57 LanTAs wrote:
JINRO FIGHTING!!!! AND HE'S VERSUS MARINEKING OMFGOMFOGMFOGMOFGMOFMGOFMGOFMGFOMGFOMG!

Clide vs Idra will be intersting, didnt artosis and tasteless say something about Clide being their adopted son?



Dont think so but they are always saying Clide is the best player in the world
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 12 2011 07:31 GMT
#70
On January 12 2011 16:16 PeaNuT_T wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 10:57 LanTAs wrote:
JINRO FIGHTING!!!! AND HE'S VERSUS MARINEKING OMFGOMFOGMFOGMOFGMOFMGOFMGOFMGFOMGFOMG!

Clide vs Idra will be intersting, didnt artosis and tasteless say something about Clide being their adopted son?



Dont think so but they are always saying Clide is the best player in the world


No, I'm pretty sure Tasteless called him their adopted son at one point in his Code S matches.

+ Show Spoiler +

TSL_Clide vs Idra will make Artosis' head explode really badly on live TV. Can't wait.
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
January 12 2011 07:35 GMT
#71
waow i just watched the full group and these games were awesome !! indeed jinro vs ensnare was crazy and i was so glad to see both idra and jinro advance.

GG guyz !
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 12 2011 07:41 GMT
#72
Nazgul said "do that in GSL and I kill you!! "


LEAVE JONATHAN ALOOOOOOONE T_T don't hurt him </3
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BeWat3r
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany182 Posts
January 12 2011 07:49 GMT
#73
Liquiditians keep on fighting :-)
Those were some really good games and it is so frekaing nice, that idra and jinro are advancing.
They raise the flag of western sc2 and they shall never stop :-)
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kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
January 12 2011 08:04 GMT
#74
Thanks for the nice Interview!
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shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
January 12 2011 08:32 GMT
#75
I somehow knew Nazgul has whips commanding TL mods and members. I wonder what other things he does too.

So I can say that Nazgul is the one that is perfecting the TL members plays?
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Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
January 12 2011 08:48 GMT
#76
So damn happy I got to watch this live. Jinro's win made me go for a run at 1 am in the morning.

Sooo good.

(BTW: Will IdrA and Jinro have a chance to have a rematch later in the tourney, and if so, how far into it would they have to make it?)
Stop browsing and do whatever it is you're supposed to do. TL will still be here when you get back
hmsrenown
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1263 Posts
January 12 2011 08:52 GMT
#77
On January 12 2011 14:45 0neder wrote:

I disagree. Only now in the Code S matches and as the Ro16 starts are we getting consistently awesome matchups. The first three seasons were all preliminary to setup the talent/skill filter that BW starleagues have had momentum with for years. Now that the filter is in place, things will only get more awesome.

I'm not denying the current matchups are good, but it could've been something real special.
dezholling
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7 Posts
January 12 2011 09:04 GMT
#78
Does anyone know what the numbers by the players mean? I have seen these during the GSL matches and I was confused by them as well.

e.g. 11 LiquidJinro vs EGIdrA 5 @ Jungle Basin
from the first line. What are the 11 and 5?
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
January 12 2011 09:21 GMT
#79
On January 12 2011 18:04 dezholling wrote:
Does anyone know what the numbers by the players mean? I have seen these during the GSL matches and I was confused by them as well.

e.g. 11 LiquidJinro vs EGIdrA 5 @ Jungle Basin
from the first line. What are the 11 and 5?

It's the position on the map (using clock numbers)
12 top
11 top, but a little left
1 top, but a little right and so on
grnat
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia60 Posts
January 12 2011 09:43 GMT
#80
Last night was my favourite GSL night, Gratz Gorrilla Terran + Grak
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 09:52:21
January 12 2011 09:48 GMT
#81
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. That second game, god damn. I feel both great and terrible. Great because I passed the group, terrible because my misplaced factory wall in game 2 cost Ensnare a very good chance at advancing, as he'd have had Lost Temple TvZ the last game

I hope he is a good friend of yours and not just someone who, sort of, shares your team tag, because you seem to mention in every interview that you are sorry you didn't give Ensnare a chance to eliminate another foreigner on an unfair map. Ensnare got fair chances against Idra and you.
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
January 12 2011 10:23 GMT
#82
fuck yeah FA <3
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HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
January 12 2011 10:40 GMT
#83
Both Idra and Jinro advanced... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
Best possible outcome, well played!
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
January 12 2011 10:50 GMT
#84
GG on Idra and Jinro advancing, didn't think they'd be up to it :o

Can't make out a damned thing on some of those screenshots, it's so blurry... Those ultras seem to be fused to whatever it is they're written to be eating.
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Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
January 12 2011 11:59 GMT
#85
Great writeup guys <3 TrueRedemption // Hot_bid
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
January 12 2011 12:17 GMT
#86
I enjoyed Idra's interview at the GSL . His comment about 'butt hurt' was pure gold haha
GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
January 12 2011 12:31 GMT
#87
Guess what, i was being baller and chose Liquidbet like this:
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
FUK YEAHHHHHHHHH~~~


Idra & Jinro HWAITINGGGGGG
"Successful people don't talk much. They listen and take action."
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
January 12 2011 12:36 GMT
#88
I've missed all the games because my computer has been to repairs for a week :/

Must have been some great games.
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
January 12 2011 13:20 GMT
#89
From group of death to another group of death! Gl jinro you will need it!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
January 12 2011 13:38 GMT
#90
i'm dead happy that the 2 foreigners made it through, i hope one of them will take the cup, but jinro has really a group of death and with the player that beat him 4-0 in semi finals last season.

its gonna be hard for the gorilla terran, so GL GL
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2087 Posts
January 12 2011 14:15 GMT
#91
so effin happy for Jinro "baby" and Idra advancing !
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 12 2011 14:18 GMT
#92
Any Koreans here willing to translate netizen reactions?

I wanna see the anti-Idra rage fly (and I'm wondering if the Koreans love Jinro as much as we do) :D
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Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
January 12 2011 14:21 GMT
#93
Awesome, Jinro is really proving his might out there :D. Great to see how well both Jinro and Idra are doing, and I really like the banner for the GSL coverage, kudos to whoever made it.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
January 12 2011 14:23 GMT
#94
What an end of the Ro32 Code S that was !!! Fuck yeah !
I'm so happy. I really wish both Jinro and Idra crush their Ro16 groups and move on to establish a strong non-korean fortress in the Code S :D
... Humanity Is Not What I Suffer From ...
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
January 12 2011 14:29 GMT
#95
both IdrA and Jinro advance, and now I need to watch that TvT, sounds epic!
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weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
January 12 2011 14:34 GMT
#96
where is the idra interview??
Oppa feeding style
SpawnMoreOverlords
Profile Joined January 2011
United States15 Posts
January 12 2011 15:37 GMT
#97
OMG this is so awesome :D Both of the foreigner advanced <3 FOREIGNERS FIGHTING :D
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Cybren
Profile Joined February 2010
United States206 Posts
January 12 2011 15:52 GMT
#98
On January 12 2011 18:48 syllogism wrote:
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. That second game, god damn. I feel both great and terrible. Great because I passed the group, terrible because my misplaced factory wall in game 2 cost Ensnare a very good chance at advancing, as he'd have had Lost Temple TvZ the last game

I hope he is a good friend of yours and not just someone who, sort of, shares your team tag, because you seem to mention in every interview that you are sorry you didn't give Ensnare a chance to eliminate another foreigner on an unfair map. Ensnare got fair chances against Idra and you.

They practice together, and almost for all intents and purposes play for the same team. There is more reason for Jinro to want ensnare to advance than Idra.
The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 16:42:54
January 12 2011 16:42 GMT
#99
Great to see both foreigners advance

On January 12 2011 23:34 weiliem wrote:
where is the idra interview??

There might not be one, Jinro is part of Liquid` so that's why his interview is right there.
:)
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 16:50:42
January 12 2011 16:49 GMT
#100
I really hate this bo1 system. Well still congratz on Jinro.

Idra should take more care of his hair or he will soon be bald.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
January 12 2011 17:03 GMT
#101
On January 12 2011 23:34 weiliem wrote:
where is the idra interview??

Idra declined to be interviewed.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
January 12 2011 17:11 GMT
#102
Hey do we have any idea on what the maps are for the next groups? I couldnt find it on the site
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-12 17:39:08
January 12 2011 17:33 GMT
#103
On January 13 2011 00:52 Cybren wrote:
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On January 12 2011 18:48 syllogism wrote:
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. That second game, god damn. I feel both great and terrible. Great because I passed the group, terrible because my misplaced factory wall in game 2 cost Ensnare a very good chance at advancing, as he'd have had Lost Temple TvZ the last game

I hope he is a good friend of yours and not just someone who, sort of, shares your team tag, because you seem to mention in every interview that you are sorry you didn't give Ensnare a chance to eliminate another foreigner on an unfair map. Ensnare got fair chances against Idra and you.

They practice together, and almost for all intents and purposes play for the same team. There is more reason for Jinro to want ensnare to advance than Idra.

Didn't Jinro mention Ensnare doesn't live in oGs house though? I could have misheard and regardless this was a TL interview so should consider the audience. Idra keeps saying he is happy Jinro advanced and meanwhile Jinro laments Ensnare didn't get to take him out on a heavily T favored map

Haha yes that's not fair and he probably didn't mean much with the comments, but still
LaO-Tyros_Reffa
Profile Joined May 2005
Netherlands50 Posts
January 12 2011 17:40 GMT
#104
Regarding Idra interview, for AFAIK:
- pre-match interview during GSL show (like Jinro's) : Idra didn't have time to do it according to Tastosis.
- after game GSL interview by Artosis: available on GOMTV's GomCam section (ticket holders only).
- after game interview (other) : Hot_Bid's answer; Idra declined.

@ syllogism
correct - Ensnare doesn't live in the oGs/TL house anymore. Still has frequent contact with them though, according to Tastosis.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
January 12 2011 17:54 GMT
#105
What happened. Why did Idra decline the interview?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
January 12 2011 18:18 GMT
#106
On January 13 2011 02:54 orgolove wrote:
What happened. Why did Idra decline the interview?

Obviously because they keep banning him.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 12 2011 19:51 GMT
#107
On January 13 2011 03:18 Klive5ive wrote:
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On January 13 2011 02:54 orgolove wrote:
What happened. Why did Idra decline the interview?

Obviously because they keep banning him.


Hahaha Plexa probably offered the interview
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
TheDominator
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
New Zealand336 Posts
January 12 2011 20:27 GMT
#108
On January 13 2011 02:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
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On January 12 2011 23:34 weiliem wrote:
where is the idra interview??

Idra declined to be interviewed.

I would think it is because he is pissed losing to Jinro
Double foreigner advance... didnt know it was possible.
JINRO FIGHTING!!!
You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun.
Saiwa
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany789 Posts
January 12 2011 21:43 GMT
#109
On January 13 2011 02:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
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On January 12 2011 23:34 weiliem wrote:
where is the idra interview??

Idra declined to be interviewed.


Idra, such a Boss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM_P7eLbY48&feature=player_detailpage#t=359s YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS TO ME CLIDE ! Artosis
holyhalo5
Profile Joined October 2009
United States187 Posts
January 13 2011 02:39 GMT
#110
i feel really stupid asking this, but jinro and idra only play each other once? it's not some BoX?
I'm cold as iceeeee
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
January 13 2011 02:47 GMT
#111
Thanks for the interview. I alway like hearing from Jinro.

And its awesome that naz is helping him with builds.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 02:51:53
January 13 2011 02:49 GMT
#112
On January 13 2011 11:39 holyhalo5 wrote:
i feel really stupid asking this, but jinro and idra only play each other once? it's not some BoX?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_stage
They are playing in groups of 4 players each. They play single games with everyone else until they get 2 wins (or 2 loses).
If they are tied at 1-1 with someone, they play the deciding game with that player.

If everyone is tied 1-1 like in Jinro and IdrA's group, they [edit] play with the only remaining player they haven't played with yet.

oh and
COOL INTERVIEW FOREIGNERS HWAITING!
wwww
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 13 2011 03:14 GMT
#113
On January 13 2011 02:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
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On January 12 2011 23:34 weiliem wrote:
where is the idra interview??

Idra declined to be interviewed.

Ah! I thought for a second that you were assholes and decided not to interview him.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
January 13 2011 03:31 GMT
#114
On January 13 2011 01:42 synapse wrote:
Great to see both foreigners advance

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 23:34 weiliem wrote:
where is the idra interview??

There might not be one, Jinro is part of Liquid` so that's why his interview is right there.

AW~~~ thats sad....
Oppa feeding style
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
January 13 2011 03:32 GMT
#115
On January 13 2011 02:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2011 23:34 weiliem wrote:
where is the idra interview??

Idra declined to be interviewed.

y did he do that?? i was looking forward to his interview...
Oppa feeding style
Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
January 13 2011 04:42 GMT
#116
On January 13 2011 12:32 weiliem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 02:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 12 2011 23:34 weiliem wrote:
where is the idra interview??

Idra declined to be interviewed.

y did he do that?? i was looking forward to his interview...


Probably wanted to spite you
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 13 2011 05:08 GMT
#117
On January 13 2011 13:42 Bonkarooni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 12:32 weiliem wrote:
On January 13 2011 02:03 Hot_Bid wrote:
On January 12 2011 23:34 weiliem wrote:
where is the idra interview??

Idra declined to be interviewed.

y did he do that?? i was looking forward to his interview...


Probably wanted to spite you

Yes. It's a well known fact that Idra hates weiliem.

Good job ruining things for us other Idra fans by existing, Mr. weiliem! >:[
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
January 13 2011 06:46 GMT
#118
Glad to see Jinro still as strong as last season, it was deffinitely no fluke that he got as far as he did, and I'm confident he will prove that this season, GO JINRO AND MC!!!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 13 2011 07:40 GMT
#119
Everyone here at the CSC was rooting for Jinro and Idra (we watched VODs, about 20 of us huddled on a projector and a bunch of couches). That TvT game with Jinro was just beast, honestly...
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
MousecL1ck1
Profile Joined January 2011
187 Posts
January 13 2011 07:48 GMT
#120
Jinro and idrA advancing, best outcome we could have hoped for
Counting clouds just floating by ~
fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
January 13 2011 08:06 GMT
#121
this was the longest and most epic night of gsl matches so far....where i live gsl usually ends around 2am, but this took til 3:20 or so!! go jinro!!
knf
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden282 Posts
January 13 2011 09:47 GMT
#122
<3 Swerran!
I was born to fast expand!
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
January 13 2011 11:49 GMT
#123
Well deserved, great work Jinro
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 12:15:01
January 13 2011 12:10 GMT
#124
On January 13 2011 02:33 syllogism wrote:
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On January 13 2011 00:52 Cybren wrote:
On January 12 2011 18:48 syllogism wrote:
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. That second game, god damn. I feel both great and terrible. Great because I passed the group, terrible because my misplaced factory wall in game 2 cost Ensnare a very good chance at advancing, as he'd have had Lost Temple TvZ the last game

I hope he is a good friend of yours and not just someone who, sort of, shares your team tag, because you seem to mention in every interview that you are sorry you didn't give Ensnare a chance to eliminate another foreigner on an unfair map. Ensnare got fair chances against Idra and you.

They practice together, and almost for all intents and purposes play for the same team. There is more reason for Jinro to want ensnare to advance than Idra.

Didn't Jinro mention Ensnare doesn't live in oGs house though? I could have misheard and regardless this was a TL interview so should consider the audience. Idra keeps saying he is happy Jinro advanced and meanwhile Jinro laments Ensnare didn't get to take him out on a heavily T favored map

Haha yes that's not fair and he probably didn't mean much with the comments, but still

No he lives in the oGs house, and it would be bizarre for me to prefer a non-team mate to advance o_O

On January 13 2011 02:40 LaO-Tyros_Reffa wrote:
Regarding Idra interview, for AFAIK:
- pre-match interview during GSL show (like Jinro's) : Idra didn't have time to do it according to Tastosis.
- after game GSL interview by Artosis: available on GOMTV's GomCam section (ticket holders only).
- after game interview (other) : Hot_Bid's answer; Idra declined.

@ syllogism
correct - Ensnare doesn't live in the oGs/TL house anymore. Still has frequent contact with them though, according to Tastosis.

No hes back ~_~.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 12:28:21
January 13 2011 12:28 GMT
#125
I understand that you of course root for your teammate first and foremost, but surely you have some sympathies for Idra considering you are both foreigners?

Also, you are fucking awesome! <3
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-13 13:03:52
January 13 2011 12:41 GMT
#126
My problem wasn't really what you said, but rather how you said it and you also didn't congratulate Idra at all. This is a rather inane discussion, but it's still a bit disappointing. Also it wouldn't be bizarre at all for a liquid member to root for a foreigner in GSL as it's quite possible you don't know some of your teammates that well (for instance, Nada) and it's good for the foreign scene to see foreigners do well in GSL.
banzaiib
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
January 13 2011 13:30 GMT
#127
The GSL tournament format is pretty confusing... All I got from the article was the following: "Jinro and Idra advance," and "a recap of the games". How this happened, I have no clue... the tournament format is like nothing I've seen before (in sports). Ah well... Idra & Jinro FIGHTING!!!!!!!
Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
January 13 2011 15:11 GMT
#128
On January 13 2011 22:30 banzaiib wrote:
The GSL tournament format is pretty confusing... All I got from the article was the following: "Jinro and Idra advance," and "a recap of the games". How this happened, I have no clue... the tournament format is like nothing I've seen before (in sports). Ah well... Idra & Jinro FIGHTING!!!!!!!


Check out something called the group stage of the World Cup.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 13 2011 17:04 GMT
#129
Jinro you are the man. I don't think I've ever seen better muta defense. The strenght of jinro imho is not the fancy micro of FoxeR, and probably not Nada's superhuman macro, but rather with the precision he executes a strategy.
Like every marine was just where he was needed. The thors wern't just bunched up behind the wall-in, they were spread out, defending every possible angle of the base.
I think jinro should become a proffessional dancer or something ^^
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
January 13 2011 18:49 GMT
#130
On January 13 2011 21:41 syllogism wrote:
My problem wasn't really what you said, but rather how you said it and you also didn't congratulate Idra at all. This is a rather inane discussion, but it's still a bit disappointing. Also it wouldn't be bizarre at all for a liquid member to root for a foreigner in GSL as it's quite possible you don't know some of your teammates that well (for instance, Nada) and it's good for the foreign scene to see foreigners do well in GSL.

Yeah, going by the interviews I kind of just assumed he didn't like Idra, haha. But if you think about it, Ensnare is his teammate, and he has something against Idra (along with like, probably most of oGs due to his damn behavior), so you can't blame him for not really congratulating him.

Maybe if he were any other foreigner? (could also just be looking too much into it, but w/e)


Also, disappointed Idra declined - this and the GSL interview (whether it was time constraints or not). I'm always interested in what he has to say, oh well
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
January 13 2011 20:20 GMT
#131
wow Nazgul so bossy, gratz for your teaching be paying off ...
Also best of luck for Jinro
JMSLEX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States43 Posts
January 14 2011 01:13 GMT
#132
I mean Idra doesnt enjoy losing ( who does ) but he hates losing to terran even more right ? so im guessing thats why he declined to talk about it . On the brighter side though at least they both advance . I for one am excited about it
CrashD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States40 Posts
January 14 2011 05:38 GMT
#133
Cant watch tonight but it will be AWESOME!
"I'm an optimist, and if I was on team prime then I would be optimus prime" Tasteless
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-14 11:45:54
January 14 2011 11:43 GMT
#134
On January 13 2011 21:41 syllogism wrote:
My problem wasn't really what you said, but rather how you said it and you also didn't congratulate Idra at all. This is a rather inane discussion, but it's still a bit disappointing. Also it wouldn't be bizarre at all for a liquid member to root for a foreigner in GSL as it's quite possible you don't know some of your teammates that well (for instance, Nada) and it's good for the foreign scene to see foreigners do well in GSL.

Uhm, well itd be possible, but its not the case. Ive played more games vs NaDa than I have vs IdrA btw.

On January 14 2011 03:49 cordlc wrote:
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On January 13 2011 21:41 syllogism wrote:
My problem wasn't really what you said, but rather how you said it and you also didn't congratulate Idra at all. This is a rather inane discussion, but it's still a bit disappointing. Also it wouldn't be bizarre at all for a liquid member to root for a foreigner in GSL as it's quite possible you don't know some of your teammates that well (for instance, Nada) and it's good for the foreign scene to see foreigners do well in GSL.

Yeah, going by the interviews I kind of just assumed he didn't like Idra, haha. But if you think about it, Ensnare is his teammate, and he has something against Idra (along with like, probably most of oGs due to his damn behavior), so you can't blame him for not really congratulating him.

Maybe if he were any other foreigner? (could also just be looking too much into it, but w/e)


Also, disappointed Idra declined - this and the GSL interview (whether it was time constraints or not). I'm always interested in what he has to say, oh well

I dont dislike IdrA, hes bm:ed lots of people but never bm:ed me. Id root for Ensnare against almost anyone.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Joroth
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States318 Posts
January 14 2011 12:45 GMT
#135
why is this foreigner special when theres no interview with idra?
"you have buildings that are better than my race go fuck yourself" -IdrA
Brandus
Profile Joined September 2010
148 Posts
January 14 2011 14:35 GMT
#136
Thanks for the write up. Really interesting analysis.
DragonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2 Posts
January 15 2011 00:55 GMT
#137
AWESOME match. I would love to find a replay for this match.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
January 15 2011 06:37 GMT
#138
On January 12 2011 17:32 shannn wrote:
I somehow knew Nazgul has whips commanding TL mods and members. I wonder what other things he does too.

So I can say that Nazgul is the one that is perfecting the TL members plays?


It's said by Nazgul's servants they would slay themselves at a command.
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