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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 21 2024 09:16 GMT
#11061
On March 21 2024 18:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2024 18:08 marvellosity wrote:
On March 21 2024 18:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 17:51 marvellosity wrote:
On March 21 2024 17:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 17:43 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy

I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS

I think these people are town

DP
Vivax
Jealous
Palmar
Cc
Jsl
Iamp
Koshi
Slam


Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town.

I wasn’t doing too badly on n2 tbh!


Look at me on top of that list! Wasn’t I green before though 😛

The green and bold are my highlights here.

The list wasn’t ordered, it’s in the order of the signup list



Ok fair. I did Think that was a pretty good read at the time. There is a reason you got shot.


The only mistakes you made really, and of course they didn’t matter at all, was claiming the gun like you did, and to a lesser extent shooting TTS didn’t make sense to me. I talked about this quite soon after I died. I play the percentages so I didn’t think you were mafia for it at the time or for a long time after.

You’ll say the claim was NAI, but it isn’t - it was careless. And as mafia in that spot you can afford to be careless because you know you’ll get your shot off. It’s a psychological thing.

Lynching palmar showed your hand but it just didn’t matter anymore.

Unbelievable performance though mate. Sensational really.


Thanks, means a lot.


Yeah it was bad. But I played it off as well as I could. The tts shot if questioned was going to be about because I stated in the thread it was a good vig shot so I had an obligation.

I definitely played to pushed a mafia agenda after the shot rather than stay hidden though

And boy did you push it and boy did it work

I felt as town you would have had confidence in your convictions and shot CC
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
March 21 2024 09:18 GMT
#11062
On March 21 2024 18:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2024 18:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 18:01 marvellosity wrote:
JAT did very well to hide on DPs coat tails.

DP was sort of outed at the end but that’s the price of leading all the lynches.

Hard to lynch Jat over a few others though.

Very one sided in the end.


Agree JAT was the perfect partner actually. very well played by him.

Didn't hurt that we are the polar opposite in our approach to playing mafia. It made it a well-rounded mix.


Yeah I think that’s what worked.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 21 2024 09:26 GMT
#11063
On March 21 2024 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2024 18:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 18:08 marvellosity wrote:
On March 21 2024 18:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 17:51 marvellosity wrote:
On March 21 2024 17:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 17:43 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:24 marvellosity wrote:
This isn’t a democracy

I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS

I think these people are town

DP
Vivax
Jealous
Palmar
Cc
Jsl
Iamp
Koshi
Slam


Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town.

I wasn’t doing too badly on n2 tbh!


Look at me on top of that list! Wasn’t I green before though 😛

The green and bold are my highlights here.

The list wasn’t ordered, it’s in the order of the signup list



Ok fair. I did Think that was a pretty good read at the time. There is a reason you got shot.


The only mistakes you made really, and of course they didn’t matter at all, was claiming the gun like you did, and to a lesser extent shooting TTS didn’t make sense to me. I talked about this quite soon after I died. I play the percentages so I didn’t think you were mafia for it at the time or for a long time after.

You’ll say the claim was NAI, but it isn’t - it was careless. And as mafia in that spot you can afford to be careless because you know you’ll get your shot off. It’s a psychological thing.

Lynching palmar showed your hand but it just didn’t matter anymore.

Unbelievable performance though mate. Sensational really.


Thanks, means a lot.


Yeah it was bad. But I played it off as well as I could. The tts shot if questioned was going to be about because I stated in the thread it was a good vig shot so I had an obligation.

I definitely played to pushed a mafia agenda after the shot rather than stay hidden though

And boy did you push it and boy did it work

I felt as town you would have had confidence in your convictions and shot CC

Yeah, he refused to do that though. It was ve or TTS. I would normally never ever agree to shoot one of our own. But ve was always going to be one of the mislynched so by shooting TTS we did effectively not make it easier for town.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 21 2024 09:27 GMT
#11064
On March 21 2024 18:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2024 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
On March 21 2024 18:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 18:08 marvellosity wrote:
On March 21 2024 18:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 17:51 marvellosity wrote:
On March 21 2024 17:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 17:43 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 09 2024 23:27 iamperfection wrote:
[quote]
I'll give you one for sure then you give me one. TTS

I think these people are town

DP
Vivax
Jealous
Palmar
Cc
Jsl
Iamp
Koshi
Slam


Poe is the rest. But tbh I would be shocked if all the above are town.

I wasn’t doing too badly on n2 tbh!


Look at me on top of that list! Wasn’t I green before though 😛

The green and bold are my highlights here.

The list wasn’t ordered, it’s in the order of the signup list



Ok fair. I did Think that was a pretty good read at the time. There is a reason you got shot.


The only mistakes you made really, and of course they didn’t matter at all, was claiming the gun like you did, and to a lesser extent shooting TTS didn’t make sense to me. I talked about this quite soon after I died. I play the percentages so I didn’t think you were mafia for it at the time or for a long time after.

You’ll say the claim was NAI, but it isn’t - it was careless. And as mafia in that spot you can afford to be careless because you know you’ll get your shot off. It’s a psychological thing.

Lynching palmar showed your hand but it just didn’t matter anymore.

Unbelievable performance though mate. Sensational really.


Thanks, means a lot.


Yeah it was bad. But I played it off as well as I could. The tts shot if questioned was going to be about because I stated in the thread it was a good vig shot so I had an obligation.

I definitely played to pushed a mafia agenda after the shot rather than stay hidden though

And boy did you push it and boy did it work

I felt as town you would have had confidence in your convictions and shot CC

Yeah, he refused to do that though. It was ve or TTS. I would normally never ever agree to shoot one of our own. But ve was always going to be one of the mislynched so by shooting TTS we did effectively not make it easier for town.

Yeah it’s just what I imagined town DP would do.

Yes the TTS shot was good regardless of my feelings on DP shooting CC. You lose very little and gain the cred to push your agenda
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 21 2024 09:46 GMT
#11065
Really good play by mafia, a lot of fun to have this kind of a game where mafia actually tries to control town and does it successfully.

Massive kudos to the entire team.
Computer says mafia
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
March 21 2024 10:06 GMT
#11066
On March 21 2024 18:46 Palmar wrote:
Really good play by mafia, a lot of fun to have this kind of a game where mafia actually tries to control town and does it successfully.

Massive kudos to the entire team.


I genuinely felt bad about lynching you.

I would never lynch you as town in that spot. Definitely wasn’t gloating when I apologised, actually felt bad.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 21 2024 10:08 GMT
#11067
I legitimately was astounded how little people respected a Marv townread on Palmar which was so strong. I would have never lynched you as town.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 21 2024 10:09 GMT
#11068
From a personal standpoint, I did the only thing I'm good at in mafia well, which is finding mafia on day 1, and then it was all downhill from there.
On March 06 2024 08:55 Palmar wrote:
I'm finalizing here.

I like a bunch of mafia in:

rayn
jat
rels
mz
tts

then there's gonna be some mafia in the people who should be killed on policy

vivax
trfel
hapa


then there's the people that need constant monitoring and need to improve

iamp
marv
jealous
copcake
slam
ve

and finally we have the people I have somewhere from mild to good reasons to think are town

sandro
oats
dp
dmb
jls
koshi

None of the lists are in any particular order

I don't really think Trfel will flip mafia. It's just a "I believe in people" read that he wouldn't fuck off like that as mafia with the whole "If I get lynched I get lynched" thing. But it's an objectively good lynch so I'm not going to fight it all that hard. Leaving my vote on jat. I've been burned before by placing too much faith in people not doing crazy things as mafia so it's whatever.


Throw in the fact that I ended voting on JAT and I had to be bashed out of my Oats scumread by Koshi (before Oats promptly pocketing me :D ). I had a really good day 1, with the only problem, yet again, being called mafia by a bunch of townies. I really, really need to figure out how to get people to call me town. Like... if anyone actually has an idea on what I can improve on here, please share.

Can you guys please stop trying to murder me every goddamn game so I can focus on actually playing.

On March 18 2024 05:55 Jealous wrote:
People who have never once voted for Palmar (except for himself):

12) die_meatbaby
15) Hapahauli executed day 1
18) ToTheStars killed night 2



But yeah, I personally fell into the trap that having no allies can do to you. Through days 3-5 my best allies were... JAT and DP.

My play past day 1 was really bad. I ended up basically throwing my keyboard at my screen and becoming stubborn as fuck because rayn decided to not listen to me at all, then after explaining in detail why we should kill Oats I voted VE.

I don't really regret the VE vote. It's sad we have to deal with townies not playing, but that's basically how mafia is. The CC lynch the next day was to me the coup that killed it for mafia. I still don't know why we did that. And I'm really unhappy with my own approach of letting DP lead the town too much. I don't question the decision of letting him live. that was mechanically required for a logical game, but there is no reason to let him just take control of the thread like that.

I feel like my problem, yet again, was that I was constantly barraged by people wanting to kill me, so I never managed to establish a base of support to actively present a challenge. I had to beg people to vote for JAT on day 4, and those that did were either mafia or thought I was.

I'm not making excuses. The #1 responsibility of any townie in a mafia game is to not get lynched. I failed that all important objective and my performance in this game, especially past day 1, was really bad.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-21 10:12:56
March 21 2024 10:11 GMT
#11069
On March 21 2024 19:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2024 18:46 Palmar wrote:
Really good play by mafia, a lot of fun to have this kind of a game where mafia actually tries to control town and does it successfully.

Massive kudos to the entire team.


I genuinely felt bad about lynching you.

I would never lynch you as town in that spot. Definitely wasn’t gloating when I apologised, actually felt bad.

All good man, you have a performance for the ages this game.

Your team was great, but this one is on you. Because while JAT and MZ successfully avoided the pointy end of the stick very well, you were the one that took charge of the thread and repeatedly led town into a terrible direction.

It's hard to overstate how impressive this game was. I can't think of a better mafia performance. I'm sure there are a few that rival this one, but it is definitely a HoF/top5 in the history if this site.

Edit: Basically, it's one thing to avoid lynches and rely on town making mistakes. What you did here is the next level of mafia play we almost never see. I'm actually kind of looking back through some archives and stuff to find anything similar. There are bound to be some, but this was pretty stellar.
Computer says mafia
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 21 2024 10:16 GMT
#11070
Let’s play paint mafia!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 21 2024 10:18 GMT
#11071
On March 21 2024 19:16 CopCake wrote:
Let’s play paint mafia!

Promise to play please.

I really did not enjoy the antics on day 4. Self voting, martyring, threatening to be replaced basically amount to cheating. We used to have pretty strict rules about playing against your win condition.

I enjoyed the bits of the game when you actually played. I absolutely hated that other part.
Computer says mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 21 2024 10:19 GMT
#11072
Yeah, it would be great if townies could start reading the op and stop self voting. The dumbtells this game were through the roof. It is really annoying when this is what you have to argue against as mafia.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 21 2024 10:23 GMT
#11073
On March 21 2024 19:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Yeah, it would be great if townies could start reading the op and stop self voting. The dumbtells this game were through the roof. It is really annoying when this is what you have to argue against as mafia.

To be fair, dumbtells aren't cheating. It's perfectly legitimate to not read anything.

Trick is to not read as mafia either lol
Computer says mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 21 2024 10:24 GMT
#11074
Sure, but some things you automatically know if you are mafia. The amount of KP for example.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 21 2024 10:25 GMT
#11075
On March 21 2024 19:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2024 19:16 CopCake wrote:
Let’s play paint mafia!

Promise to play please.

I really did not enjoy the antics on day 4. Self voting, martyring, threatening to be replaced basically amount to cheating. We used to have pretty strict rules about playing against your win condition.

I enjoyed the bits of the game when you actually played. I absolutely hated that other part.


I was planning that regardless of what I roll, I will post less and wait until I get home to play on conputer.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
March 21 2024 10:26 GMT
#11076
Also I didnt know sharing >~< that rayn was losing it laughing in the other room was - cheating -
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
March 21 2024 10:27 GMT
#11077
On March 21 2024 19:26 CopCake wrote:
Also I didnt know sharing >~< that rayn was losing it laughing in the other room was - cheating -

I personally think that was perfectly fine. Why wouldnt he laugh as mafia. I know I do if something funny happens.
Generally advisable to strictly separate the game from RL though.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 21 2024 10:32 GMT
#11078
On March 21 2024 19:26 CopCake wrote:
Also I didnt know sharing >~< that rayn was losing it laughing in the other room was - cheating -

Yeah I didn't mind that one at all. Probably don't mention it next time, but I didn't read anything into it.



Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 21 2024 10:34 GMT
#11079
On March 21 2024 19:25 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2024 19:18 Palmar wrote:
On March 21 2024 19:16 CopCake wrote:
Let’s play paint mafia!

Promise to play please.

I really did not enjoy the antics on day 4. Self voting, martyring, threatening to be replaced basically amount to cheating. We used to have pretty strict rules about playing against your win condition.

I enjoyed the bits of the game when you actually played. I absolutely hated that other part.


I was planning that regardless of what I roll, I will post less and wait until I get home to play on conputer.


That's the thing, as long as you're producing maybe a page or two per cycle, you're doing your job. Just ignore people, that's allowed.

What is annoying is getting frustrated with the game and taking it out on the rest of the people actually trying to play and enjoy it. Everyone gets frustrated. I was mad at so many points this game. Trick is just to say "fuck it, I'll try again later" instead of allowing yourself to negatively impact other player's experience.
Computer says mafia
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
March 21 2024 10:35 GMT
#11080
On March 21 2024 19:11 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2024 19:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 21 2024 18:46 Palmar wrote:
Really good play by mafia, a lot of fun to have this kind of a game where mafia actually tries to control town and does it successfully.

Massive kudos to the entire team.


I genuinely felt bad about lynching you.

I would never lynch you as town in that spot. Definitely wasn’t gloating when I apologised, actually felt bad.

All good man, you have a performance for the ages this game.

Your team was great, but this one is on you. Because while JAT and MZ successfully avoided the pointy end of the stick very well, you were the one that took charge of the thread and repeatedly led town into a terrible direction.

It's hard to overstate how impressive this game was. I can't think of a better mafia performance. I'm sure there are a few that rival this one, but it is definitely a HoF/top5 in the history if this site.

Edit: Basically, it's one thing to avoid lynches and rely on town making mistakes. What you did here is the next level of mafia play we almost never see. I'm actually kind of looking back through some archives and stuff to find anything similar. There are bound to be some, but this was pretty stellar.



Thanks I really appreciate that.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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