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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 08:00 GMT
#1761
On August 31 2023 16:58 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 31 2023 16:55 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:35 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:21 DarthPunk wrote:
I know this is wifom but does anyone actually think I would swap off as mafia?!?!

If anyone can


Is part of the reason you always want to lynch me because of memories of my scum play??

Partly. But also partly because I often don’t get the way you think as town either (Koshi case n1 in endures 1 good example)


Does koshi look town to you in this game?

Yes and no. I still haven’t read what he wrote on you properly yet.


I think koshi is mafia and ttt is town.

I think it could be koshi + jake
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 08:00 GMT
#1762
On August 31 2023 17:00 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 31 2023 16:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:57 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:54 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:49 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:35 marvellosity wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:21 DarthPunk wrote:
I know this is wifom but does anyone actually think I would swap off as mafia?!?!

If anyone can


Is part of the reason you always want to lynch me because of memories of my scum play??

Partly. But also partly because I often don’t get the way you think as town either (Koshi case n1 in endures 1 good example)


Ahah. you don’t get the way I choose to communicate how I think.

Something like that.

Do you think I need to change something??

How could I improve coach?


I’m not criticising. Because guess what, you nailed Copcake d1 the game after. The fact /I/ can’t make sense of everything you do doesn’t mean you should change.


I was being genuine. I think you may have read sarcasm there. I’m always open to feel back from my newbie coach after all.


No I didn’t read sarcasm it’s a compliment, you don’t need me telling you how to play.


Ok ok. thanks coach.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 08:04 GMT
#1763
TTT can you really reconsider your scum read on me please so we can squeeze the mafia together
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 08:07 GMT
#1764
I suggest people read the first two posts ls made in the game.

Fucking juicy
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 08:15 GMT
#1765
Is this another game that scum let me live because they incorrectly assume they can lynch me.

Then they suicide in to me with the force of a thousand suns thus revealing their scumminess for all the world to see.

Yeah….probably.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 08:28 GMT
#1767
I’m also rescinding my scum read on math by the way Marv.

His early interaction with lLS looks too genuine to me for them to be mafia together.

He is not like obv town to me like he is to you, but that does change things a lot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 08:32 GMT
#1769
On August 31 2023 17:30 marvellosity wrote:
He’s not obv town to me either


Ok good.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 08:38 GMT
#1771
On August 31 2023 17:36 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 30 2023 18:00 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2023 17:49 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok Marv is town I think.

Marv what’s your confidence interval on math should I trust your eyes more than my own here or is it a situation where it’s just a coin toss who is right??

It’s really like this. If math had continued posting like he had been posting all game I’d be sitting here telling you he was town. For aforementioned reasons. I can quote (well I’m not on a pc so I can’t) 5-10 posts I think sound very natural, confident, blasé, however you want to say it - and I think they’re very difficult to post and maintain as mafia.

The problem I’m increasingly coming up against the more I think about it is that he give up post is so incongruent with any of that. He came under pressure and delivered what I thought was a nice defence to the case. But then peaced out.

I’m really struggling to marry the confident, tonally excellent math with the giving up math. It feels like those 2 players can’t be the same person. So maybe they’re just not. It /is/ a lot easier to marry up a math who was only faking confidence etc, had his confidence hit by a lot of pressure, and folded.

I haven’t really got a firm conclusion here tbh which I’d really like to. I’m not 80% on him anyway.

^


Yeah I remember.

I falsely added you in my mind to the group of people who were saying he looked good due to wagonomics.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 08:41 GMT
#1773
On August 31 2023 17:38 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t think wagonomics mean very much until we know math’s alignment


True.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
August 31 2023 09:22 GMT
#1775
On August 31 2023 18:14 iamperfection wrote:
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On August 31 2023 16:57 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
I don't really know. I'm not trying to lead town, that would be mega hubris considering the disparity in investment. But I know town is not doing so hot when I'm lynched, and I think that's the most likely scenario we're in. I'm half convinced Lamp is mafia now just because I can't reconcile his delusional takes with anything but a personality disorder or him padding his highlight reel as mafia by vigging town and confirming himself green off it. Like... It just doesn't make sense to me that he could possibly think he (or town in general) have done anything of note.

Assuming Lamp is town, which was my default assumption before the public masturbation, town has mislynched Chez (which he celebrated), misvigged VE (which he celebrated), and correctly lynched the biggest lynchbait in TL history (which he seems to think guarantees town victory). Nothing that has been done was challenging or insightful. We just killed low contributors and got 1/3 (soon to be 1/4), and that one we did get was basically guaranteed to go down the moment town didn't have strong direction. I'm bent over backwards trying to understand his enthusiasm unless he's actually done something cool which would be trading in red vig for town status (in which case, yeah that's pretty cool).

I'm not even really trying to convince anyone because I don't think I get to catch mastermind plays with so little effort, I just can't get past this nonsense it's like an attention trap. Someone tell me why I'm wrong please for the love of god. Are there setups with both red and green vig?


This is town TTT btw.

He’s not a good lynch here

Why


This is just not something he could ever do as mafia.

The emotional congruence of a defeated townie, plus his feelings on
you of disdain mixed with suspicion and more defeat.

It’s an emotional cocktail I don’t think he could fake pretty much ever.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 00:10 GMT
#1795
We need to lynch Koshi BTW,


100% scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 00:48 GMT
#1802
Ls is the easiest bus in the world and math might be scum so you should not read too much into the wagon if you are town.

Ttt and I are both town Jake and TTT even says that now.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 01:18 GMT
#1804
On September 01 2023 09:58 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2023 18:22 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 18:14 iamperfection wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:57 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 16:49 TankTopTiger wrote:
I don't really know. I'm not trying to lead town, that would be mega hubris considering the disparity in investment. But I know town is not doing so hot when I'm lynched, and I think that's the most likely scenario we're in. I'm half convinced Lamp is mafia now just because I can't reconcile his delusional takes with anything but a personality disorder or him padding his highlight reel as mafia by vigging town and confirming himself green off it. Like... It just doesn't make sense to me that he could possibly think he (or town in general) have done anything of note.

Assuming Lamp is town, which was my default assumption before the public masturbation, town has mislynched Chez (which he celebrated), misvigged VE (which he celebrated), and correctly lynched the biggest lynchbait in TL history (which he seems to think guarantees town victory). Nothing that has been done was challenging or insightful. We just killed low contributors and got 1/3 (soon to be 1/4), and that one we did get was basically guaranteed to go down the moment town didn't have strong direction. I'm bent over backwards trying to understand his enthusiasm unless he's actually done something cool which would be trading in red vig for town status (in which case, yeah that's pretty cool).

I'm not even really trying to convince anyone because I don't think I get to catch mastermind plays with so little effort, I just can't get past this nonsense it's like an attention trap. Someone tell me why I'm wrong please for the love of god. Are there setups with both red and green vig?


This is town TTT btw.

He’s not a good lynch here

Why


This is just not something he could ever do as mafia.

The emotional congruence of a defeated townie, plus his feelings on
you of disdain mixed with suspicion and more defeat.

It’s an emotional cocktail I don’t think he could fake pretty much ever.

why do you think this anyways? is he incapable of lying ?
his posts during the night phase seem to me feigning contribution by wasting time on thinking about me while doing no scum hunting.


I just think that this emotional congruence/defeat/quitting is a direction that he wouldn't take as mafia because it wouldn't realistically occur to him to try it and not something he would think was an interesting way to play as mafia regardless.

TTT will play games because he want's to explore a certain way of playing even if it means he will lose.

I can see him trying a bunch of approaches as mafia, but not this one and I think he won't do whatever it takes to win if it stylistically is not interested.

I thought you thought he was town anyway?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 01:40 GMT
#1806
Tip Top Town

Marv: If he is mafia he deserves the victory and I will happily lose to him. Someone worth working with. His reads are important to pay attention to if you are town.


Town

Iamperfection: He is probably town due to differences from last game and the Vig shot. It is definitely possible for him to pull off the VE shot as a mafia Vig, but I'm not sure they would have a vig and roleblocker anyway.

He has been lazier and less effective recently but that could also be because he feels so confident in his town status.

Vivax: He has seemed pretty townie to me ever since our fight day one, and he recruited DMB to vote for LS which would be a next level bus manoeuvre as mafia. Needs to step up and be more curious, buttown for now.

TTT See my reasons above, I can see he is slowly getting more engaged recently, hopefully he can thrive later with less pressure and more information.

Null:
DMB: Big downgrade here, she has not really been the insightful, productive scumhunter that I know she can be. is being town read for reasons that I don't believe are enough. I guess i would want vivax's input here also.

Math nothing about his play makes me think he is town except for his interactions early with LS. Looks worse and worse as time goes on..

Mafia:

JSL:

Trolling and wifom has been the main elements of his play, the only time i really felt he was invested in a lynch in a genuine way was when he tried to lynch math over LS last minute.

LS calling him dodgy and then defending him straight afterwards is a weird association, particularly because I feel like LS usually just dick rides stronger players he knows well, rather than a random troll voting newbie.

Koshi

Nothing about him is town, his case reads like a classic case that is trying to lynch a target than a true attempt at discerning alignments, deciding on a lynch and then reading a filter, instead of reading a filter and deciding a lynch is a dead giveaway and kind of a slip.

He usually insightful and useful as town, usually more engaged, usually more invested.

Lynch with fire and extreme prejudice.


Koshi first always, then one of JSL MATH DMB in that order imo.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 01:45 GMT
#1807
On August 31 2023 21:05 JacobStrangelove wrote:
It’s a new dawn it’s a new day it’s a new show! I am your Host Grack Attack here with Sexy Cop bringing you the best in porn action.

Oh look starting us off early is JSL coming in hard and deep on LS, I've never seen such piston action. Look it's inspired the other Math and Koshi and jumping right in there! It's not a threeway without four people as I always say.

Oh look there's marve sauntering in bringing TTT in chains, JSL's adhd has gotten the better of him and he's wandered over as well.

Not willing to let a hole go unfilled Vivax goes over to LS to continue the degredation. "I think he's looking for those bonus sloppy seconds points Grack"

"Indeed he could be... Oh look what's this Math has entered the room and Immeditally JSL and Perfection sprint at him. They're like rabbits in heat JSL must be going for a triple but no! Perfection sneaks in just before him and the crowd goes wild"

"That'll be a lot of points lost not getting three in a row first, Rookie error from the former heavyweight champion"

"Dp joins in for some DP of math" Things are heating up in the fuckerdome.

Marv decides he's had enough of whipping TTT and moves over to LS instead oh boy never have I seen one man take so much dick.

"OH WATCH OUT WATCH OUT RKO DIE BABY OUT OF NO WHERE JUMPS ON DIE BABY"S DICK RIGHT AS HE"S COMING" "That's a pro gamer move if I've ever seen it, Oh there she goes she's slapping him now!"

Viavx shouts from across the room hey another one get the combo and die baby immeditally runs over to start fucking LS

"Those team points there for the win, If the Die Vivax team make to to regionals this year they're sure to be a hot contender" "They surely have the Talents to make it"

JSL starts pleading with others to fuck Math instead. "My dick can't take it much longer but I need the extra orgy points"

Dp decides he's had enough of LS and agree's that it's better JSL gets the points than that whore Koshi who's currently in second place and there's two many people and he isn't getting enough time so he moves over to math instead and sticks it in his ear. "Any Whole's a goal as they say"

Perfection decides this his his moment. and goes back to fucking LS.

"Sadly while LS did a lot of work and performed admirably as cumslut he Just was too far behind in points after the first event and didn't make up enough points to make it to round three."


Jacob what do you mean by sexy cop here??
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 01:47 GMT
#1809
On September 01 2023 10:46 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2023 10:45 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 31 2023 21:05 JacobStrangelove wrote:
It’s a new dawn it’s a new day it’s a new show! I am your Host Grack Attack here with Sexy Cop bringing you the best in porn action.

Oh look starting us off early is JSL coming in hard and deep on LS, I've never seen such piston action. Look it's inspired the other Math and Koshi and jumping right in there! It's not a threeway without four people as I always say.

Oh look there's marve sauntering in bringing TTT in chains, JSL's adhd has gotten the better of him and he's wandered over as well.

Not willing to let a hole go unfilled Vivax goes over to LS to continue the degredation. "I think he's looking for those bonus sloppy seconds points Grack"

"Indeed he could be... Oh look what's this Math has entered the room and Immeditally JSL and Perfection sprint at him. They're like rabbits in heat JSL must be going for a triple but no! Perfection sneaks in just before him and the crowd goes wild"

"That'll be a lot of points lost not getting three in a row first, Rookie error from the former heavyweight champion"

"Dp joins in for some DP of math" Things are heating up in the fuckerdome.

Marv decides he's had enough of whipping TTT and moves over to LS instead oh boy never have I seen one man take so much dick.

"OH WATCH OUT WATCH OUT RKO DIE BABY OUT OF NO WHERE JUMPS ON DIE BABY"S DICK RIGHT AS HE"S COMING" "That's a pro gamer move if I've ever seen it, Oh there she goes she's slapping him now!"

Viavx shouts from across the room hey another one get the combo and die baby immeditally runs over to start fucking LS

"Those team points there for the win, If the Die Vivax team make to to regionals this year they're sure to be a hot contender" "They surely have the Talents to make it"

JSL starts pleading with others to fuck Math instead. "My dick can't take it much longer but I need the extra orgy points"

Dp decides he's had enough of LS and agree's that it's better JSL gets the points than that whore Koshi who's currently in second place and there's two many people and he isn't getting enough time so he moves over to math instead and sticks it in his ear. "Any Whole's a goal as they say"

Perfection decides this his his moment. and goes back to fucking LS.

"Sadly while LS did a lot of work and performed admirably as cumslut he Just was too far behind in points after the first event and didn't make up enough points to make it to round three."


Jacob what do you mean by sexy cop here??

you know. you dont have to say everything you see right.


Yeah I do know that.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 01:50 GMT
#1812
On September 01 2023 10:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Huh thought it was cop not rel co hosting because cop said happy birthday to ls.


which post was this?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 01:52 GMT
#1814
On September 01 2023 10:48 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Huh thought it was cop not rel co hosting because cop said happy birthday to ls.


That post was 4 days ago?

And you had nothing to do with Copcake, why would she be a character in your story? when some people in the game have not been previously?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 01:53 GMT
#1816
Ok jake is mafia. Jake and Koshi.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
September 01 2023 01:55 GMT
#1818
Basically you have too much knowledge about someone that is not part of the game, but is tangentially involved. the question is, why?

I think she has been mentioned in your Discord or something.

Therefore: Mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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