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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:30 GMT
#872
##voter hapahauli
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:31 GMT
#875
On November 30 2020 07:59 Hapahauli wrote:
I targeted Shockeyy N2, in that if I was killed, I would rather leave town in a position where they had to worry about one less lurker.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:32 GMT
#877
wait okay
##unvote i am dumb
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:34 GMT
#879
i want you guys to explanin (hapa and trfel) why this game has 50% of the townies blue?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:36 GMT
#881
i am gonna be here for an hour more and i am gonna be really mad if at least hapa doesnt talk to me like now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:37 GMT
#882
On November 30 2020 08:35 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 30 2020 08:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i want you guys to explanin (hapa and trfel) why this game has 50% of the townies blue?


Because if this exact scenario.

A "normally" balanced Mini is usually 3 mislynches = loss.

With the "evil mastermind" in the setup, 2 mislynches = loss.

Town needs a fuckton of help in this seutp.

i think 2 blues and a confirmed town in bg is already enough.

Now why am i mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:39 GMT
#884
and mad hatter is gonna do that? you get recruited by grack it's gg basically
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:42 GMT
#888
On November 30 2020 08:40 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 30 2020 08:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 30 2020 08:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 30 2020 08:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i want you guys to explanin (hapa and trfel) why this game has 50% of the townies blue?


Because if this exact scenario.

A "normally" balanced Mini is usually 3 mislynches = loss.

With the "evil mastermind" in the setup, 2 mislynches = loss.

Town needs a fuckton of help in this seutp.

i think 2 blues and a confirmed town in bg is already enough.

Now why am i mafia?


In my mind, it's you, TT, or Vivax.

Of the three, I am probably the most confident in Vivax being mafia.

I have to sit down and read you and TT, and I will likely not have thoughts until a very deep readthrough. A readthrough that I won't do right this second, because talking with you and Trfel is the priority.

But you said it's me and Vivax most likely? Like i know you prolly have vivax as your top scum but hah....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:42 GMT
#890
On November 30 2020 08:41 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 30 2020 08:39 Trfel wrote:
On November 30 2020 08:30 Hapahauli wrote:
Trfel - talk to me about this "you or me" thing. Why does one of us have to be mafia?

Obviously throw out everything I'm about to say if we have another blue claim, but 2 mafia + Evil Mastermind is a fucking disaster for town without a lot of blue-role backup. In my view, you're confirmed town with FF.
Yes, I agree that that is a terrible setup for town. And honestly, this is where things get complicated for me with the whole setup thing.

2 mafia, 1 evil mastermind, 7 town seems like a really rough setup. However, the bodyguard also confirms a town. Going down to 6 town when (presumably) the evil mastermind recruits a town, if all of us are blue you are saying that 4/6 town in the game are confirmed? Three blues and a bodyguard? That seems a bit ridiculous to me.

I agree that maybe that's actually more balanced... it just feels excessive? I've only ever seen three blues in a non-mason game once before I think, mayyyybe twice... but last time it happened, I think we would have been more likely to win the game if it wasn't for having three blues because that made one of the blues doubt the alignment of another.

I guess it's not for sure but it seems likely, setup-wise? Because that would be so many confirmed town. Also, in a setup with so much KP, would they really put more KP in the game? I would have maybe expected another doctor or something to try and gain town an extra mislynch, but more KP seems strange.

I dunno for sure. I feel like you are towny otherwise, I looked through your filter and I don't see good reasons to call you mafia... But it's really really hard for me to see four confirmed town in a 10-player game.


Thing is, you are forgetting about the Evil Mastermind, and how much that fucks town if a blue is recruited.

MY POINT EXACTLY; WHY YOU CLAIM STINKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:43 GMT
#892
What is your yolo scum tem D1?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:46 GMT
#896
##vote hapahauli
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:48 GMT
#900
On November 30 2020 08:48 Hapahauli wrote:
And I know you aren't stupid enough not to pick up on that.

huh?where was your claim?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:49 GMT
#902
On November 30 2020 08:48 Hapahauli wrote:
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On November 27 2020 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 27 2020 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 27 2020 06:11 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 27 2020 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am thinking if i can actually solve the game right now.


Mechanically speaking, a VT. It would mean that in the remainder of the town, there would be 1-2 blue claims (given the 2 scum + evil mastermind, there is likely another town blue floating around to give the town a chance), in addition to 1 confirmed bodyguard claim. Pretty hard for scum to overcome.

what?


If I was mayor (in your position), I'd want to be VT, because it would be slightly easier for me to "solve" the game from my perspective in a mass claim situation.

If you are referring to whether or not a mayor should be VT or Blue in general, it just depends on the blue role we are talking about. Mayor CPR doc is obviously insane. Mayor JK is pretty insane. Mayor [investigative role] is pretty good, though that is unlikely given Slam's flip.


I dont get it even now :o
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:53 GMT
#905
On November 30 2020 08:50 Hapahauli wrote:
In that whole post, I'm saying that running for mayor is good with CPR Doc, JK, and Investigative role.

So if I'm not running for mayor, that leaves two things: Mad Hatter or Vigi.

Okay, but at that point you didnt claim blue. So what makes you think i should believe i should think something like this when i dont have the info you do?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:54 GMT
#908
likewhat is the dioffernce? VT, mafia, mad hatter, vigi? For you. How am i suppose to to do anything with that info, aside from telling you are NOT VT.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2020 23:56 GMT
#909
On November 30 2020 08:53 Hapahauli wrote:
And running for mayor is pretty insane with vigi, since I could shoot someone and instantly confirm the mayor role as town.

Mad Hatter is the only damn role in the game that I wouldn't run for mayor, because I basically can't use the fucking role if I'm mayor.

you shopuld be running for mayor every time ever in my opinion so sorry that does not convince me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 30 2020 00:01 GMT
#913
And what if you die N1 as you usually do?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 30 2020 00:05 GMT
#919
On November 30 2020 09:01 Hapahauli wrote:
This is one of the things that actually points to mafia-Rayn as opposed to town-Rayn, because I find it very unlikely that he didn't speculate about my role and which role in the setup would make sense if I didn't want to run for mayor.

this is so much bullshit hapa..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 30 2020 00:13 GMT
#924
On November 30 2020 09:10 Hapahauli wrote:
I think it was very easily deduced from my posting about what blue role I was.

As for why I wasn't killed, two plausible reasons:
1) I basically afk'd for 3 days.
2) Why would you shoot the Mad Hatter if you believe he is likely to deliver KP on mafia (i.e. Vivax)?

1) doesnt mean anything
2) but you would not kill vivax since you were you know rb N1?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 30 2020 00:14 GMT
#925
##vote hapahauli
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