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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 24 2019 15:15 GMT
#1201
Read HF's posts.
table for two on a tv tray
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 15:28 GMT
#1202
On August 24 2019 21:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you even realise what you are doing jock?


No I don't think so

On August 24 2019 22:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 16:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
This is frustrating.
We need a single wagon with everyone 5 people on it by the end of the day or we're done for.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT BEING SQUISHY.


Just claim then, fuck me.


Not a cop.


@Copcake what are you thinking right now?
Chezinu last night was worse than squishy imo. On the one hand defending squishy, then saying he's trolling, then asking random questions that seem like distractions and ends up voting for both squishy and then rayn? Seemed to be consciously trying to buddy you:

On August 24 2019 05:47 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:46 CopCake wrote:
How am I scumhunting rn I am the most useless person here

You are a reaction reader like me.




Also don't forget hf's points about chezinu #1116

I think he's a much better lynch than squishy and probably our best chance to hit scum.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:08 GMT
#1203
well squishy hasnt been back and tbh as town you would be raging/getting mad/etc when the game is close to end and the frustation would make you get mad and say shit if you are up for a lynch.

Is this his first time as mafia tho? Because you dont make things like “hohoho i dont think ewya is mafia is ff or jock”, I mean I understand his pov because I found you and ff to have a lot of chemistry / coordinated.

The reason I think you are mostly town (98%, you could be a very very good mafia) is that you brought up the whole 2nk, I mean like hell I would have known that and it changed the game to make town work harder and actually pay attention. It fits with your personality that you take care of details (the whole I did filters for you guys).

Chezinu... Chezinu took action when squishy was getting fired but ughhhhh well the question is... lets say if your mafia buddy is getting lynched... shouldnt you act casually normal and follow? To blend in? When you are unreadable? It would put your game in danger.

HF, he is the one I am more paranoid of. I do think he has the ability to fool everyone while looking townie. I do like that he brought up the cop cases, the possible night actions, etc. But would he do that as mafia also? That is where is my mind and I am tinfoiling.

Rayn is mostly town because of his rage wall, I want to believe he wouldnt do that as AtE.

Now... you see people like Ewya, Vivax I think etc who called him out. I need to know by local players if you have misslynched rayn? Recently? Because if the answer is yes that would explain his frustation.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:08 GMT
#1204
Also I am not a cop even if Rayn implied it.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 16:15 GMT
#1205
Rayn got mislynched day 1 in the last game. There was some anger afterwards.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:17 GMT
#1206
On August 25 2019 01:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rayn got mislynched day 1 in the last game. There was some anger afterwards.


Was it because he was afk and shit?

Then there you have it.

I know he gets really pissed when that happens.

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 16:18 GMT
#1207
On August 25 2019 01:17 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 01:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rayn got mislynched day 1 in the last game. There was some anger afterwards.


Was it because he was afk and shit?

Then there you have it.

I know he gets really pissed when that happens.



It was complicated i don't think he was afk. lots of factors, but people didn't take his offensive drunk posting as town the way they probably should have done (me included!)
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 16:22 GMT
#1208
CHEZINU

Didn't take action on the squishy lynch in the way you might think he did:

On August 24 2019 06:23 Holyflare wrote:

Squishy clarifies that he's VT and actually misread based off of my post or something.

I kind of like the cut of his jib and his tone is slightly sincere so I'm wavering.



THEN AFTERWARDS:
On August 24 2019 07:24 Chezinu wrote:
##unvote
##vote raynpelikoneet



He wasn't taking action he was following hf's lead. Parking his vote away from squishy because he doesn't think the vote's going to end up there.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:23 GMT
#1209
On August 25 2019 01:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2019 01:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 25 2019 01:15 Jockmcplop wrote:
Rayn got mislynched day 1 in the last game. There was some anger afterwards.


Was it because he was afk and shit?

Then there you have it.

I know he gets really pissed when that happens.



It was complicated i don't think he was afk. lots of factors, but people didn't take his offensive drunk posting as town the way they probably should have done (me included!)


:D

Drunk rage rayn tends to be town ahahahahaha, one time he was afk in a game and people found it weird so near the lynch result he got online drunk and rage like a complete word document. Lesson is never ever think afk Rayn is mafia. You can question it but never take it as a fact.

The problem is that people gets busy so there is no much where to dig.

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 16:23 GMT
#1210
But why did Chezinu vote for squishy in the first place?
Its still unclear.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:28 GMT
#1211
But why does he follow HF lead if he is pissed at him? Or do I miss remember?

I am on phone let me filter quick.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 16:30 GMT
#1212
On August 25 2019 01:28 CopCake wrote:
But why does he follow HF lead if he is pissed at him? Or do I miss remember?

I am on phone let me filter quick.


Seemed to me like he was under pressure from hf about voting for squishy while defending squishy so he made his excuses and moved his vote rather than explain why he was doing what he was doing.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:32 GMT
#1213
Page 5 has all chezinu vs HF until HF earned his town badge but now...

On August 24 2019 07:08 Chezinu wrote:
of course... what if the mafia themselves didn't know that there was 2 kp tonight?



Can we ask the hosts if mafia knew since the beginning they got two night kills?

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 16:34 GMT
#1214
Chez also said he didn't have a read on rayn and then votes for rayn like wtf..
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 16:35 GMT
#1215
On August 24 2019 07:02 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 06:59 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:58 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:54 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:46 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:44 Chezinu wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.

day lynch + night kill night kill + next night kill

If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

day lynch + night kill


Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

back to only 1 night kill

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.



So you arbitrarily include night kill + next night kill and then decide his last statement means only 1 night kill if we lynch correctly? What happens to their next kill then? Vanishes.

Or... He just slipped big time.


On August 24 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 06:30 Chezinu wrote:
Jock when through multiple scenarios to try and figure the mafia team. Pairing the remaining players and seeing if it makes sense. I had not read Jock's filter until this afternoon (Murica time). I read this after claiming he was not scumhunting. the truth is that he is in the UK, just like HF whom I had little interaction with.

HF is playing a game of logic. He is building cases. Is this fake case building? building on inconsistencies rather than trying to discern scum? Does he just tunnel? Or does he change his mind trying to find the truth? If he does change his mind, is it opportunistic? Jock keeps asking people if they are willing to lynch people. Is this to get another opinion or just to see opportunities? tricky, many of the same actions can go either way. Was HF happy to find inconsistencies to squishy because he thought he was mafia and was rejoicing? or was he excited that he found another towny mistake he could harp on? Was he just being rash?

Copcake. Is she really a reaction reader? If so, she could be hunting. Though she claims she is useless.

Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.

squishy. Mafia with mistakes or Towny with mistakes. Did he kill FF because he thought he was blue when really HF has the largest chance thus he claimed VT so he could live longer. Squishy defended me early game. Thinking I was town. When does anyone ever think they know the role of Chezinu? JK. There was people who understand me like Vivax. If squishy said I was mafia, I would go the other way and say I'm just an easy target. Squishy fell short of the Chezinu Rule though.



What does this say in the slightest? How does someone's alignment determine the way they read your posts? I feel like this entire post says absolutely nothing, that everybody could be mafia.


Are you ever going to answer these? Or are you just going to make posts that gauge thread reaction over and over again that say nothing.

Post showing Squishy logic but you were wrong.
Post asking who I'm mafia with.
Post discrediting my gameplay but ignoring where I asked you to provide evidence.
Big post that says nothing and that everyone could be mafia.
Posts that ask what people think of other people.
Posts showing NOT EVEN PROBABILITY of mafia, just numbers. If it were probability of random lynching it should be one less townie if you were town, so not even that is a correct calculation.
Post complaining I'm misunderstanding your posts.
Post saying jock is arbitrarily maybe town for making a filter list.


Now I'm actually reading your posts:

On August 24 2019 06:02 Chezinu wrote:
HF and rayn have been misreading my posts this game...



Rayn. He's been very quiet. I haven't interacted much with him. The fact that he reads and understands my posts says a lot. But he hasn't really pushed much this game. HF has been leading the way.


You can't even keep your story straight when you're making up reads on people. Does Rayn misunderstand you or does he understand you. Which is it, Chezinu?


LOL

hunting inconsistencies... at least you knew to avoid Copcake.


The whole premise of this game is to hunt inconsistencies and make people answer them. So, which is it? Is he misunderstanding you or does he understand you. What read do you have on rayn?


Both (he understood that the list was a troll, but he misunderstood what I was saying and that I was implying that you and rayn are mafia).

and I don't have a read on rayn


On August 24 2019 07:11 Chezinu wrote:
I think a Rayn lynch would be a nice way to end this.


There's literally 9 minutes between these two posts.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 16:36 GMT
#1216
WHAT HAPPENED IN THOSE 9 MINUTES?????
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 24 2019 16:37 GMT
#1217
Ok, before I go all mafia chezinu mode

Can you link where squishy explained his “this is why I knew mafia had two shots”?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 24 2019 16:40 GMT
#1218
He never explained why he knew that he claimed ignorance and just sort of said...

That someone had mentioned it before...

But he said it in such a townie way lol

On August 24 2019 05:47 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:36 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:28 Holyflare wrote:
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.



Nope nope nope. Mafia, mafia, mafia. Your post came before Jock's

Unlucky.


I was trying to comprehend what no lynch would do. And why no lynch would be a good thing? If we no lynch they get two town kills yes?

Now mafia gets two town kills regardless? After Jock's pm


How do mafia get 2 town kills if we no lynch? On what planet is that correct unless you know mafia gets 2 kills?


I literally had no idea what I was talking about. I read your if there is 2nk post here:

https://tl.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=1033&topic_id=550431

And I took it at face value to why no lynch would be good.

I am vanilla town. Remember reading this would be a VERY vanilla game because it is vaporwave. Well I am the third vanilla towny. I may have just thrown this game for town because I did not know what I was talking about.

RIP Meatloaf <3
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 24 2019 17:00 GMT
#1219
On August 25 2019 01:08 CopCake wrote:
well squishy hasnt been back and tbh as town you would be raging/getting mad/etc when the game is close to end and the frustation would make you get mad and say shit if you are up for a lynch.

Is this his first time as mafia tho? Because you dont make things like “hohoho i dont think ewya is mafia is ff or jock”, I mean I understand his pov because I found you and ff to have a lot of chemistry / coordinated.

The reason I think you are mostly town (98%, you could be a very very good mafia) is that you brought up the whole 2nk, I mean like hell I would have known that and it changed the game to make town work harder and actually pay attention. It fits with your personality that you take care of details (the whole I did filters for you guys).

Chezinu... Chezinu took action when squishy was getting fired but ughhhhh well the question is... lets say if your mafia buddy is getting lynched... shouldnt you act casually normal and follow? To blend in? When you are unreadable? It would put your game in danger.

HF, he is the one I am more paranoid of. I do think he has the ability to fool everyone while looking townie. I do like that he brought up the cop cases, the possible night actions, etc. But would he do that as mafia also? That is where is my mind and I am tinfoiling.

Rayn is mostly town because of his rage wall, I want to believe he wouldnt do that as AtE.

Now... you see people like Ewya, Vivax I think etc who called him out. I need to know by local players if you have misslynched rayn? Recently? Because if the answer is yes that would explain his frustation.


I don't think I have ever mislynched rayn.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 24 2019 17:01 GMT
#1220
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


This is the post that made me suspicious to HF

On August 24 2019 03:59 Holyflare wrote:
If mafia get 2nk n3 without it being announced in the game when there is only information that 2 goons are present and nothing more then I will be VERY VERY UNHAPPY.


This is why I thought there was 2nk.
Also for some reason I thought there was only 2nk if no lynch. That's why I say "If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing." Notice how I say a nk not 2 nk. I was getting prepped for work and I read stupidly quick. I read a lot and I had too much confidence in my ability
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