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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 19:21 GMT
#1041
On August 24 2019 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


This is directly anti town. You may as well claim mafia at this point.


Wanna explain how?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 23 2019 19:25 GMT
#1042
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


It is exactly the same if we lynch mafia today. It's still mylo tomorrow. But then there's far more risk being wrong today.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 19:27 GMT
#1043
On August 24 2019 04:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


It is exactly the same if we lynch mafia today. It's still mylo tomorrow. But then there's far more risk being wrong today.


Oh yeah sorry i was just working it out wrong.

Haha stupid.

Ok I'll go with a no lynch.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 23 2019 19:41 GMT
#1044
Uh huuuh
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:44 GMT
#1045
On August 24 2019 04:14 Jockmcplop wrote:
OK well I'm voting chezinu for now.
If a cop comes forward then I'll think about a no lynch.

At the moment its all just maybes.


🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:45 GMT
#1046
On August 24 2019 04:18 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:16 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 24 2019 03:44 Holyflare wrote:
To me, it's between rayn/chezinu/squishy.

I really can't shake the Squishy feeling despite what he says. He just comes in, posts nothing and fucks off again each time. Sometimes only just responding to a single question. He's been off wagon each day saying that he'll vote who he wants like a third party in the game which seems kind of brazen for a mafia to do.

Chezinu..... done nothing, always will do nothing. Has scum read Copcake and Squishy? Don't know if moving from Eywa to Squishy was that mafia-y thing to do but it was fucking weird. Really weird.

Rayn day 1 was atrocious. He literally fabricated a case on me about squishy and then emo quit the thread under absolutely no pressure. His day 2 was just the Eywa case and afk. His day 3 is just... accuse everyone it kind of looks like? "Why say those things about me but not hf" just seems arbitrary whining rather than trying to solve the game.



Understandable.

What’s this talk of no lynch? Lynch is towns only tool right? Why would we not lynch? Fear of mislynch?


It forces mafia to eliminate one more town and makes the game easier to solve.
The downside is we then need 2 good lynches in a row or we lose.
He's saying if we have another cop they will have a bunch of checks so a no lynch to narrow down the pool + the cop checks should be enough to solve.

I'd rather not rely on a cop until someone claims so I'd rather kill chez/rayn


🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:46 GMT
#1047
I am dumb, someone explain me that?

Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 19:47 GMT
#1048
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 19:48 GMT
#1049
On August 24 2019 04:41 Holyflare wrote:
Uh huuuh


You don't believe i would make that kind of mistake? Have you ever played mafia with me before? I've done pages of working out before realising I forgot one of the players once.

What so you think i literally lied about the basic setup of the game hoping no-one would notice.
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 19:52 GMT
#1050
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 19:56 GMT
#1051
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Not true. If a mislynch for town loses either way and they aren't sure who mafia is, having less margin for error is optimal.

I just read this page because I haven't really been in a no lynch situation before:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=No_Lynch

According to this its mathematically advantageous to have an odd number of players.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 19:57 GMT
#1052
On August 24 2019 04:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Not true. If a mislynch for town loses either way and they aren't sure who mafia is, having less margin for error is optimal.

I just read this page because I haven't really been in a no lynch situation before:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=No_Lynch

According to this its mathematically advantageous to have an odd number of players.

*EBWOP* Lower odds to mislynch not less margin for error
RIP Meatloaf <3
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
August 23 2019 20:01 GMT
#1053
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 20:01 GMT
#1054
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 20:02 GMT
#1055
********efinitely shouldn't no lynch wow I CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 20:04 GMT
#1056
So we're right back where we started but in lylo
RIP Meatloaf <3
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
August 23 2019 20:07 GMT
#1057
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


Jockmcplop * Hollare * Chezinu * raynpelikoneet * CopCake * reps)squishy

From this, two are mafia

4 vs 2

two persons die if it is true that mafia gets two shots.

2 vs 2

what's the point?

Aghhh

But we if misslynch we are also doomed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 23 2019 20:19 GMT
#1058
On August 24 2019 05:01 Jockmcplop wrote:
On the other hand, we definitely shouldn't mislynch because Slam tells me that mafia gets 2 night kills tonight.


What the fuck is this a bastard game?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
August 23 2019 20:20 GMT
#1059
If hf is mafia and tried to use the no lynch to kill town i'm going to be absolutely furious.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 23 2019 20:20 GMT
#1060
On August 24 2019 05:01 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2019 04:52 CopCake wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:47 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 24 2019 04:46 CopCake wrote:
I am dumb, someone explain me that?



Yeah. It makes the game easier to solve by PoE because there are fewer players. Its optimal to have an odd number of players, right?


But having more people alive = harder for mafia to win.

There is no benefit for town to lynch blindy.


Mafia gets two kills that will be definitive town
. That basically = two mislynches.
If we mislynch then mafia gets a nk. That is the same thing.

Or we correctly lynch! And mafia gets 1 kill.

I don't know why we would ever no lynch. Unless someone can explain it to me like I am five why no lynch is a good idea.


This guy is 1000% mafia and slipped.
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