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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:16 GMT
#663
On August 21 2019 12:12 Eywa- wrote:
Your point was refuted, now it's invalid.


Now we are splashing!!!!

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:20 GMT
#667
On August 21 2019 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:15 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:11 Holyflare wrote:
Everything you say is an agenda to manipulate rather than actually solving the game.

Yes, but the two are not mutually exclusive. As town, I want people to vote for my scum reads and as scum I want people to vote for my "scum reads". Manipulation is a good way to achieve that.. And the manipulation has no connection to game solving.


I'm glad we both agree you aren't game solving.


Geez.. your talk is so hard it seems like you are a cop or something. Guess that is what happens when you kill the good cop!!! You shouldn't have killed his cop buddy.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:20 GMT
#669
On August 21 2019 12:19 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
The thing is I don't see where my point was refuted.

If you state things like x, y, z is mafia because of a, b, c but it turns out a, b, c just aren't true but you don't reevaluate and instead maintain x, y, z are scummy for that then that's not just a bad read, that is flagrant misrepresentation and an agenda to blend in with doing work. There is one alignment that does that.

Furthermore, if you think you actually had something on rayn's appeal to emotion post why did you not ever try and evaluate why he posted it?

Your reasoning is bringing you down a rabbit hole of lynching town, so... It must be good


Why do you want to be a sacrifice?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:23 GMT
#671
On August 19 2019 08:12 Chezinu wrote:
It is probably safer to lynch inactives to give (if present) our blues a chance to play.


I think we should focus on this guy... He was totally wrong about this statement. Of course, he has been begging for attention or so it seems. But that could just a distraction and prevent us from looking at Eywa further...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:25 GMT
#672
On August 21 2019 12:22 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:19 Eywa- wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:16 Holyflare wrote:
The thing is I don't see where my point was refuted.

If you state things like x, y, z is mafia because of a, b, c but it turns out a, b, c just aren't true but you don't reevaluate and instead maintain x, y, z are scummy for that then that's not just a bad read, that is flagrant misrepresentation and an agenda to blend in with doing work. There is one alignment that does that.

Furthermore, if you think you actually had something on rayn's appeal to emotion post why did you not ever try and evaluate why he posted it?

Your reasoning is bringing you down a rabbit hole of lynching town, so... It must be good


All I can do is provide evidence and have a back and forth conversation whereby people refute the evidence and provide alternate explanations for it and provide better evidence on different people. That's 90% of what mafia is and always should be. This site has gone to shit because it never turns out that way anymore.


I will take some of the blame for that... lol

I don't like to give out my reads and reasonings all the time because I like to get vibes from people and figure it out.. I am a reactionary reader..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:29 GMT
#674
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:37 GMT
#677
On August 21 2019 12:37 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.


Finally!! someone who speaks to me!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:43 GMT
#678
The last person to speak to me this game that I recall was this guy:

On August 19 2019 14:19 reps)squishy wrote:
@Chez
Pretend to be useful, maybe you can make someone talk


They talk about me but not to me. I was once a popular troll on these forums... now I am a persona begging for attention that everyone despises (or claim to).

The question is. Who is more likely to speak to The Chez? Mafia or town? Of course town is winning if you include Chez talking to Chez.. ignoring that, would it be alignment indicative?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:47 GMT
#680
On August 21 2019 12:43 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:37 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.


Finally!! someone who speaks to me!!!


How are you chezinu-sama?

Acting odd will keep you alive to day 3, huh?



Last game, I was afk because of real life. Did not work out well. I know if I talk nonsense, I live. People don't like quiet Chezinu. The more I spam the more likely I will live. You can look at my history. All games that I was lynched early on was due to me not spamming the forum (regardless of alignment). So, the TL Mafia community has trained me to spam the thread.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:50 GMT
#681
Anyways, what do you think about Holyflare? Is his rigid logical style too harsh? Would he play this as mafia to hide his emotions?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:55 GMT
#683
Hey HF!!!

Remember when you were like I don't like the color brown and people be like well that describes you. And i was Like

On November 25 2013 02:28 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 02:20 Holyflare wrote:
I don't like the colour brown so maybe chezinu

You shouldn't break the Chezinu Rule. The New Brown State does not recognize you as family.


You were totally a MAFIA GOON.

Then a couple years later you be like


On April 28 2015 19:19 Holyflare wrote:
Chezinu.........?


And now you dare not speak with me?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 03:56 GMT
#684
On August 21 2019 12:54 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:47 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:43 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:37 Chezinu wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:37 CopCake wrote:
On August 21 2019 12:29 Chezinu wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:12 Vivax wrote:
IIRC last time I played with cake I misread her scum because some things in her posts just didn't seem to add up. I'm not going to try that approach again.


Cake is getting the inconsistent townie pass.


Ok, Eywa... you gotz to let dead people speak for you. This is how you fights back.

Yo! HF!!!

check this out!!


On August 18 2019 02:55 Vivax wrote:
On August 18 2019 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why is that?


Because you are scum


I believe rayn is scum cause Vivax was after him. Meta has changed so much lately (you know it has changed, you admitted this yourself) that mafia can kill people who come after them and think they will get away with it cause it would be "too obvious!"


Hi! I'll fight you if you touch rayn.


Finally!! someone who speaks to me!!!


How are you chezinu-sama?

Acting odd will keep you alive to day 3, huh?



Last game, I was afk because of real life. Did not work out well. I know if I talk nonsense, I live. People don't like quiet Chezinu. The more I spam the more likely I will live. You can look at my history. All games that I was lynched early on was due to me not spamming the forum (regardless of alignment). So, the TL Mafia community has trained me to spam the thread.


Yeah if we continue this chit chat will be just shit posting and honestly I don't want that.

Now if you could be a smart chezinu, who do you think is the mafia besides Ewya?



I'm not sure if the answer would be a piece of cake...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 04:05 GMT
#688
On August 21 2019 13:02 Eywa- wrote:
I'd like to point out that I was against the vivax kill last game.

lol!!!!!


This is like a movie were the bad guy gets caught and he was like I want to make sure you know that you didn't get me on this logic. That way he can be convicted in peace. Know that they know they were wrong on at least one point. This way the suspect doesn't look as bad.


What do you think about that theory hypothesis?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 04:13 GMT
#691
On August 21 2019 13:00 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 12:50 Chezinu wrote:
Anyways, what do you think about Holyflare? Is his rigid logical style too harsh? Would he play this as mafia to hide his emotions?


HF is town. (To me) Because he had been patient mostly. The whole HF vs Rayn reminded me the last game I played here.

Besides all the agenda Ewya has been pushing is to separate HF and Rayn. I would dare say that FF has been trying that too with the "This is something HF mafia would do".



HF has a reputation of being a really good scum. He knows how to make it endgame with town support. This makes people paranoid. Rayn now.. He can still die later on.

HF has veteran rights to live a few days.

I'm not sure who is mafia at this point. Vivax was a really good move on the Mafia's part. He was one that I had the strongest town read on... Plus, killing him from my perspective doesn't give much information since it was a really good move.

+ Show Spoiler +
I wish Vivax was around. He knows how to read my hidden messages and a willing defender of me.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 04:19 GMT
#692
1. J O C K M C P L O P
2. H O L Y F L A R E
3. E Y W A -
4. W A R D E R
5. V I V A X
6. CC H E Z I N U
7. F E C A L F E A S T
8. R A Y N P E L I K O N E E T
9. C O P C A K E
1 0 . R E P S ) S Q U I S H Y


1 of 3 mafia
1. J O C K M C P L O P
2. H O L Y F L A R E
3. E Y W A -


1 of 4 mafia
7. F E C A L F E A S T
8. R A Y N P E L I K O N E E T
9. C O P C A K E
1 0 . R E P S ) S Q U I S H Y
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 04:36 GMT
#699
I just read FF's filter.

Conclusion:

1. He is reading the game and following along.
2. He claims that he cannot read many times.
3. He speaks clearly but is not rigid like HF.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 04:41 GMT
#700
On August 19 2019 13:52 reps)squishy wrote:
Chezinu's posts have zero substance. Lynching a lurker is ok, but I really don't think he'll turn out to be mafia.

WARDER is getting auto-killed from not posting. What is the point of voting for him?

I think it's weird that Vivax dropped the vote on me. Follow through with the shots you take! Don't try to vote me because I looked juicy and people didn't jump on board so you go for someone who has not made a single post.

Copcake yo I don't need your protection. But I am suspicious of people who are on my case.


Chezinu Rule?

It was pretty late in game... need to skim posts before this to see if anyone excused me before this.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 04:50 GMT
#705
On August 21 2019 13:41 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2019 13:52 reps)squishy wrote:
Chezinu's posts have zero substance. Lynching a lurker is ok, but I really don't think he'll turn out to be mafia.

WARDER is getting auto-killed from not posting. What is the point of voting for him?

I think it's weird that Vivax dropped the vote on me. Follow through with the shots you take! Don't try to vote me because I looked juicy and people didn't jump on board so you go for someone who has not made a single post.

Copcake yo I don't need your protection. But I am suspicious of people who are on my case.


Chezinu Rule?

It was pretty late in game... need to skim posts before this to see if anyone excused me before this.


some veterans suggested lynching me first. So, Chezinu rule doesn't really apply... oh wait.. he didn't accuse me. FF must be rubbing off. I cannot read. Too late at night maybe? yeah... I was skimming the thread... saw zero substance and assumed he was coming after me. However, why is he so confident that CHEZINU of all players is unlikely mafia??!?!??

Based on this post from squishy perspective.. it seems to indicate Squishy + CopCake are teammates. I wonder why...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 04:54 GMT
#706
On August 21 2019 13:46 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 13:44 reps)squishy wrote:
On August 21 2019 13:36 Chezinu wrote:
I just read FF's filter.

Conclusion:

1. He is reading the game and following along.
2. He claims that he cannot read many times.
3. He speaks clearly but is not rigid like HF.


I like to point fingers. I am paranoid.


FF seems comfortable being oblivious, or may know more than us


touché touché

It's like when you seem to know that I am town...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
August 21 2019 04:56 GMT
#707
On August 19 2019 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Eywa-, WARDER, Rayn, FF, Chezinu

Probably contains all mafia.

People I could go either way on: squishy

People in my town list that I could be wrong on: Vivax

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