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On March 08 2019 18:11 sicklucker wrote:
I get that ryan thinks acro is mafia. I personally think that is kind of unlikely and hes a likely candidate for a nk tbh. but its one thing for rayn to barely care about anything else in the thread. LIke killing between bh/hf (he thought hf was town but didnt bother voting bh) I cant think of any of his reads.
also stop making bad posts wos tell me what I did wrong or dont post at all. wasted thread we have like 140 pages of wasted thread
Agreed that Acro probably isn't mafia. I'm not sure Rayn gets so angry at people the way he has been if he's scum and it's not like he never tunnels as town. But I see y'all's issues with him. I'm just not convinced that Rayn doesn't hold the game hostage as town cause I'm fairly sure I've seen it before in the game he was tunneling me till mylo/lylo (forget which).
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ExO_
You here yet?
I don't see a single scumread past a very earlygame read on damdred. You late-day claimed you read trfel as town (while confusing everybody into thinking you were talking about BH), but not once during D2 did you bother to read BH's dat bigger filter and just tossed your vote on him. Who do you think the scum is?
@LS: how in the blazing hell is this behavior supposed to give us "information"?! I want to lynch everybody who claimed to want to lunch BH for information and will make that shortlist today.
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Hey everyone. For those who don't know me, I'm pretty sure it's pretty obvious to tell when I'm town or not when I'm actually playing. Expect to see a hell of a lot more activity, and actually I was pretty up to date with the whole part of day 2 when I asked Kita to replace after I saw AMG was similarly overwhelmed like me the first day.
I won't dwell on the past too much, but Holyflare 100% needs to be vigi'd tonight. It was remarkable watching the last day.
HF talk has already spammed the thread and later tonight I'm going to be looking into others, but I want to emphasize two points.
1. Fake claimed for no town reason . I don't care about fake claims in general ,I used to do it all the time. However, when Town does it it's because they have a reason to (and holyflare already established he did not just do it for the "Lolz".) There was no reason to fake-claim, and honestly I'm not sure about how it benefits mafia but it sure as hell makes no sense from a town perspective. Also can we just kill people who outright lie for no reason?
2. Furthermore, HF dying gives a huge amount of information. If he's mafia, I actually think we can start wrapping up the game because HF has been at the center of the thread and voting thread for both days. If he actually does just turn out to be a balls-out crazy town, I think it's very safe to say a good amount of mafia probably voted for him after he made his intentions clear to vote Palmar. Either way, town is in a good position.
However, I am pleading for a vigilante to end the job. The information best helps us if we know it at the start of the day cycle.
I'm actually not even certain I would support a Holyflare day 3 lynch.
Also just FYI BC and Ace need to die with fire if either of them live to day four.
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LS strikes me as town.
These posts are too authentic.
On March 04 2019 03:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Becuase rels is being a piece of shit I did give my own reads too. I done playing I thoguht I wasn't goign to ruin into brickwalls but no I facing brickwalls in Tina, Hf, Rels, and you FF go fuck yourselves.
On March 04 2019 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:
The whole idea that I am on everyone's scum list yet noone really want to lynch astounds me. DON'T BE A PUSSY AND JUST LYNCH ME. IF I FLIP MAFIA YOU GUYS GOT YOURSELF A LYNCH. IF I FLIP TOWN RECHECK YOUR READS UNLESS YOUR MAFIA THEN YOU GOT YOURSELF THE EASIEST MISLYNCH IN 20FUCKING19. JUST LYNCH ME GUYS I DON'T GIVE A RATSASS ABOUT GETTING LYNCHED BUT IF YOU GUYS KEEP NOT TRYING LYNCH ME THEN WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I EVEN PLAY? IF I DON'T GET LYNCHED THIS DAY PHASE I WILL JUST D OTHE BARE FUCKING MINIMUM AND JUST PLACE MY VOTES AND NOT EXPLAIN THEM. FINAL POST OUTSIDE OF THE BAREMINIMUM.
Thoughts from people who know him better than me?
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The Case
For Ace
Being scum
Or dumb
Its incredibly easy for anyone to see that ace is scum. He only has a 4 page filter and most of it is literally useless, apart from one obvious wagon that he can sink all of his reasonable looking posts into.
1: 1 word answers and anti discussion posting
The following is a list of just a few the times Ace simply quotes something questionable and puts a single word there or something obviously designed to avoid people coming back to him and asking questions about it.
Its effective, because no=one ever does that and he gets away with artificially inflating his post count for basically doing nothing.
On March 05 2019 06:51 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 05 2019 06:37 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 06:22 Koshi wrote:On March 05 2019 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
na I need a confirmation too many rambos on this site who will shot vivax day 1 and waste are shit or something Iamp is advocating to lynch bh constantly. It is our best bet. Palmar tje fucker will shoot sentinel because palmar might be mafia. Holyflare will shoot Palmar because town!HF is not really top tier and he doesnt know better. Still no comprendo. Me no speak English. He wants you to pad his ego. Hey ace why koshi? Random vote. Got a prod that I didn't have a vote on anyone. I'll change if Im around before EOD.
discussion killer here.
On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else. Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you. So no I am not down for lynching him -_- If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison. We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing. So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game. How about instead we look into this pool. Onegu Why? 1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt. 2) Reads currently given have no substance to them 3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements 4) Basically just has posts with 0 content Iamperfection I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it. On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question. i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow. i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons. He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum. This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here.
Asks the question but isn't there to answer it. No detail just an accusation. Doesn't bring it up again.
On March 05 2019 10:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 10:24 Damdred wrote:On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote:
Well that was terrible.
@Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette.
There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow.
Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar.
side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop.
Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around.
What is this? Even I know hf stuck to his guns he wan ted to lynch palm for a long time no? Him wanting to lynch Palmar =/= good reason to switch.
Again there's nothing useful here just poking holes in posts.
On March 05 2019 10:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 10:24 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote:
Well that was terrible.
@Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette.
There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow.
Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar.
side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop.
Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around.
Good one voting the guy into mayorship that was saying he was sticking to his plan there, Ace. Holyflare (15): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_ Thanks. Add some more colors to my name. I love variety.
Nothing post
On March 07 2019 13:43 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 17:19 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 06 2019 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 05 2019 07:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
I've been keeping up but not posting.
Shouldn't trfel be here defending himself if he's scum instead of that 'take it or leave it' bullshit? On March 05 2019 07:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm voting trfel because so many people have reads on him and I'm not sure what's going on with BH at all. Soo post one suggests that you think trfel is town and then you decide to vote for him as scum bc "you don't know whats going on with BC" HMMMMMM Also you're one of those HF lurker voters... On March 05 2019 18:37 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 05 2019 18:29 rsoultin wrote:
i'm done with you acro. go back to something interesting, if you can manage it. calling your maybes in your reads list bad was a good start
@jock uhhuh...yeah i don't get how you read this game and claim that hf didn't have a scumread on palmar that he made overwhelmingly clear multiple times including his intention to use the mayor lynch to vote him. if your uncommitted to any pov is your way of saying he's scum i guess that makes some sense but it's a lot of words just to nullread someone At one point he said he wasn't going to lynch palmar and was just using the platform to find out who would go for it. The he said that was a lie. This is the post that is making me question his motives and how genuine his palmar read was. This is literally hours after the flip dude. What about him literally killing palmar is making you question his motives. Jock you've waffled so many times on HF in the last 24 hours I can't help but feel like you're setting yourself up for either side of an HF lynch and you're just waiting to see which way the thread goes. You also ask a lot of questions and push very few reads. You have only one substantial post detailing who you think is scum and have done nothing to advance your case... my goodness we're gonna have quite the docket of scum once I'm done sifting through the HF voters. Yeah but this is a stupid case, and heavily cherry picked. Unfortunately you accidentally cherry picked the part that shows exactly why I did what I did. I'm sure you'll be gone for a week or whatever now though so you just left this here like a fart before you left. Great job. Is there anything about my explanation for my questioning of hf yesterday that doesn't make sense? I had him as a townread and he's probably the most influential guy in the game at the moment. The way he went for the will I/won't I that you quoted here with Palmar and then explained it as just trying to have a laugh and inject fun into the thread (which is his explanation for all his anti-town actions) was something that got me thinking... So given that during the night phase I have nothing pressing to take care of I thought I'd try and get more information to try and see where he's coming from (this is also why I'm didn't make alot of reads yesterday - no-one's listening to me anyway so it wouldn't help with town decision making either). You guys read each other and make cases based off years of meta knowledge (which probably explains this weakass shit I wake up to), I only have people's actual posts to go off, and HF's were something I found a little weird. He is by no means the most suspicious guy in the game to me, but he's the most important at the moment so I don't want to be caught with my pants down accidentally townreading him. Same goes for rsoultin. My thinking was exactly the same - although as the day went on it became clear that no-one's really paying her any attention so I dropped it. When it comes to the trfel vote I was mostly concerned with making sure acro didn't get voted out as he's definitely town and useful. I wanted to get on a wagon and BH seemed like an interesting guy to keep around which was enough to go on for what was basically a coinflip. yikes Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
The people voting me are on the biggest cop out lynch of 2019. I bet they're the same people that whined that BH didn't get shot too.
What benefit does my flip bring other than drawing you closer to end game? BH at least gives you the information about wagons. I'm also pumping out content comparatively to BH who is just sitting there with the most information in the game about his wagon and instead he's still just repeating to kill him. You may not agree with what I'm writing but that's your choice.
You can look at MZ's spreadsheet to see how stupid lynching palmar would have been if I was mafia. I'm not stupid as mafia, I demand thread consensus and people town reading me because it's the path of least resistance.
I will look into you Holyflare voters and if I see that you complained that BH isn't dead I will know your motivation about lynching me is completely feigned. R.O.F.L. That second bolded though. Explain. Really :D. I don't see how a person who mostly wanted to kill himself would reveal more information on someone with strong opinions and an actual action we can tie to them. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 17:29 Holyflare wrote:On March 06 2019 17:28 Mocsta wrote:
Hf
Some point this cycle. Preferably after ace responds. I want ur take on my ace case I don't agree with it. Why would someone fabled for being so good at mafia make such blatantly false accusations? If he doesn't come up with some read based on those posts then yeah, probably mafia. You definitely did not read Mocsta's post then. How many accusations did I make, to whom?, and how would you know they are false?
3 nothing posts in one.
1: no scumhunting
Ace has done no scumhunting. You can't call jumping on the obvious hf wagon and pushing that one kill scumhunting, it isn't, its hiding while posting.
In sea of thousands of 'lynch hf' posts its hard to even notice ace's posts. Can anyone remember any of them specifically? Its a camouflage.
Over the course of the entire game, he has accused 3 people of being scum.
HF: All of his posts that contain any detail at all are about hf. Most of them add nothing new to the discussion and just hang there like little grapes in a big ol basket of fruit.
Myself: He says I'm an obvious vigi shoot (I was voting to lynch him at the time). That's all
BC: Calls him scumcobbler at one point and posts a single sentence after a post he didn't like.
Its fair to say that there's no actual content here, but importantly the hf stuff gives the illusion of content, but its all just nothing.
3: Staying silent instead of defending himself
Ace ha been accused of being scum by multiple people on multiple occasions, and the only one time he has remotely defended himself was to say that he doesn't use meta in his play.
Otherwise he's perfectly happy to stay silent.
If he's town why doesn't he want people to know he's town?
Why is he acting so weird and only putting out the most basic timewasting posts?
Because he's in the mafia.
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I don't support a holyflare lunch tomorrow. D2 was totally lost because of making it about holyflare vs BH. Holyflare is probably scum, but it's clear he made himself unlynchable with a whole army of Sheeples who aren't even playing the game. So we just need to kill off the rest of his team first. I also realized that because of D2, I don't even know where the rest of the scum is. They're in a huge pile of blehhhhhhhhhh. I read exo_ fully expecting to think he was scum, but he is no worse than the whole pile of shitty inactives, which includes you, pandain.
I will be ignoring everything HF says for the rest of the game, and am || <- this close to doing the same with rayn.
If someone wants me to comment on something holyflare said, please quote it as I am literally skipping over any post he makes.
PS. I will treat pandain as modconfirmed town, as I refuse to believe mods would allow a scummer to replace out and back in again. So that makes 3 confirmed townies 
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I agree we should start aiming for inactives and forcing them into the spotlight. I'm going to do some analyses later tonight on the group.
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What would you call inactive at this point?
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Anyone five pages or less. At first glance that seems to be Onegu, BC, Ticktock, TW, SL, Damdred, exo, sentinel, tubesock, darthfolely, and wiggles.
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On March 08 2019 19:07 Pandain wrote:
Anyone five pages or less. At first glance that seems to be Onegu, BC, Ticktock, TW, SL, Damdred, exo, sentinel, tubesock, darthfolely, and wiggles.
Don't forget ace!
That's a good list to me teeth into.
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We don't even have to actually end up lynching them. Just force them to post and make this group a priority tonight and tomorrow. I'm pretty sure with an HF flip alot of this picture becomes much clearer based on votes, and I'll probably do some pre-analysis depending on whether he's scum or town.
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On March 08 2019 18:57 Acrofales wrote:I don't support a holyflare lunch tomorrow. D2 was totally lost because of making it about holyflare vs BH. Holyflare is probably scum, but it's clear he made himself unlynchable with a whole army of Sheeples who aren't even playing the game. So we just need to kill off the rest of his team first. I also realized that because of D2, I don't even know where the rest of the scum is. They're in a huge pile of blehhhhhhhhhh. I read exo_ fully expecting to think he was scum, but he is no worse than the whole pile of shitty inactives, which includes you, pandain. I will be ignoring everything HF says for the rest of the game, and am || <- this close to doing the same with rayn. If someone wants me to comment on something holyflare said, please quote it as I am literally skipping over any post he makes. PS. I will treat pandain as modconfirmed town, as I refuse to believe mods would allow a scummer to replace out and back in again. So that makes 3 confirmed townies
Is this a real thing? Can anyone else confirm?
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On March 08 2019 19:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
What would you call inactive at this point?
Onegu
Fecalfeast
Tictock
Tumblewood
sicklucker
Damdred
Chezinu
ExO_
[UoN]Sentinel
Pandain replaced by AMG
darthfoley
Meapak_Ziphh
BloodyC0bbler
Ace
Rels
Some.of these were doing something during D1, but totally disappeared during D2. Others did varying degrees of nothing during the entire game.
It's over half the players left. Not a good sign for town.
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I had a quick look through Exo's filter expecting it to be a horrible scummy mess but didn't really see that much. Got a bit upset quite easily when people were complaining about his filter and made a bunch of bad reads (which says nothing given the first couple of days haha).
Says he's going to be busy all week. Don't know what to think of him.
Does anyone have a case on him?
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Reading through Damdred's filter gives me a big fat nothingburger. So he's scum.
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Onegu looks mildly townie.
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On March 08 2019 19:26 Acrofales wrote:
Reading through Damdred's filter gives me a big fat nothingburger. So he's scum.
He sure does say sorry alot.
Thinks alot of people are probably town but makes no scumreads.
I like it.
Damdred come here and explain yourself mister. Your filter is simply not good enough.
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On March 08 2019 18:45 Pandain wrote:LS strikes me as town. These posts are too authentic. Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 03:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Becuase rels is being a piece of shit I did give my own reads too. I done playing I thoguht I wasn't goign to ruin into brickwalls but no I facing brickwalls in Tina, Hf, Rels, and you FF go fuck yourselves. Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:
The whole idea that I am on everyone's scum list yet noone really want to lynch astounds me. DON'T BE A PUSSY AND JUST LYNCH ME. IF I FLIP MAFIA YOU GUYS GOT YOURSELF A LYNCH. IF I FLIP TOWN RECHECK YOUR READS UNLESS YOUR MAFIA THEN YOU GOT YOURSELF THE EASIEST MISLYNCH IN 20FUCKING19. JUST LYNCH ME GUYS I DON'T GIVE A RATSASS ABOUT GETTING LYNCHED BUT IF YOU GUYS KEEP NOT TRYING LYNCH ME THEN WHY THE FUCK SHOULD I EVEN PLAY? IF I DON'T GET LYNCHED THIS DAY PHASE I WILL JUST D OTHE BARE FUCKING MINIMUM AND JUST PLACE MY VOTES AND NOT EXPLAIN THEM. FINAL POST OUTSIDE OF THE BAREMINIMUM. Thoughts from people who know him better than me?
These were in the thread when you were originally here and people already talked about them at length. We've already said he's done this as mafia before to copy his town meta.
Also just FYI BC and Ace need to die with fire if either of them live to day four.
Imagine saying I might be mafia and then scum reading these two guys that have fabricated nonsense to get me lynched forever.
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Hmmm. Fecalfeast is the strongest scumfeel from the filters I read today. He's been around. He has been "helpful" and has the completely unconcerned feel of a scummer who knows his buddies are all safe. Add this to the "bid" he did for mayor, knowing he'd never get elected and use it all of D1 to do effectively nothing. GG.
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On March 08 2019 19:33 Acrofales wrote:
Hmmm. Fecalfeast is the strongest scumfeel from the filters I read today. He's been around. He has been "helpful" and has the completely unconcerned feel of a scummer who knows his buddies are all safe. Add this to the "bid" he did for mayor, knowing he'd never get elected and use it all of D1 to do effectively nothing. GG.
I asked him more than once why i should vote for him for mayor and he never responded. Thread was chaotic at the time, but i was a little suspicious.
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