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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 04:55 GMT
#1254
Also if ur an expert on my meta you should know that I do use a person I read as town or someone I'm trying to get a better grasp on by ping ponging stuff off of them. Pretty sure I've done that in all my town games. The fact that you seem to scumread me for doing this with damdred while simultaneously being an expert on my meta otherwise is a real thonker.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 04:58 GMT
#1257
Honestly i still feel no pressure from you dude. Carry on I guess.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 10:42 GMT
#1284
On March 11 2018 15:32 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 10:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Is there anything anyone wants me to look into? I've shared all my thoughts so I'm down with answering questions people have on my reads.

Yeah, I have a question about your reads. Who is the VT scum? The other vanilla claims are: Slam, HF, rsoul and Koshi. Who should get shot tonight? I don't feel like you're interacting with any of them like as if they are scumreads. Does your own PoE tell you that the VT scummer is you?

Slam rsoul and holy are likely town. Im not voting slam probs ever because I want to townread him and this looks like town Slam anyway. Rsoul is likely town because you're pocketing her and other stuff. Holy could be mafia but his thought process lines with mine so I doubt hes scum. So koshi would be my vote here.

There is tinfoil where maybe rsoul is pocketing you and her goddawful tunnel on town hf and bad townread on prpl or hf is mafia pocketing me but meh.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 10:49 GMT
#1293
On March 11 2018 19:31 rsoultin wrote:
This so isn't helping ><

I was thinking maybe not Moosy after all. The he ignores his teammates thing doesn't really hold water looking at past scum games. BTDT in Newbie Student Mafia XXII is an example. Also, even though he doesn't appear to talk much about other scummates, he does talk to them.

Also found him policing the thread a bit as town. And I noticed that he's more active in this game than his two most recent scum games.

However, that doesn't mean much as it turns out, because he's also more active than his town games and I didn't notice a huge activity difference in those four games. But then I started just getting this he's way more actively and aggressively pushing things in this town game I'm reading (Newbie XXI), and I found an explanation for his early trolling that makes me wonder why he bothers to change it up.

So now I'm thinking this was a waste of time and I should just throw the meta out the window lol >< These games were from years ago as it is.

Pffft.

On March 11 2018 13:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 08:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also rsoultin is right in that I haven't played in 2 years(?). I'm actually drawing inspiration from one game I played way back where I actually played decent as town and nailed a clutch cop check.

So yeah, I'm just genuinely trying to shake up my meta from the mess it was before. If you read me as scum that's fine, I just call bogus on reading me as red because of meta.


Looks like rsoultin found that game I was talking about.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 10:54 GMT
#1297
On March 11 2018 19:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 19:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Honestly though this game is kind of weird for me because normally in my Mafia games, it's people lining up on the Moosy wagon D1 and/or putting a lot of pressure on me and neither of those things have happened so far.

So I'm in this weird position where on my return to TL Mafia I kind of want to troll a little less and be a little more serious but I often tend to decide on the flip of a coin whether to respond seriously to pressure or go into super troll mode with a large tendency to resort to trolling...but since there's really no pressure I can't really troll a lot or actually tryhard. So my filter's just kind of growing omegalul.


What exactly were you expecting people to pressure you on prior to this post, Moosy?

Nothing in particular actually. Normally when I start playing games with for example rayn, he notices something in my posts he doesn't like whether it be an inconsistency or whatever, and he calls me out on it. It happens regardless of whether I'm town or Mafia or whether I think I'm playing well or not it just happens. It's probably because I tend to post things without thinking most of the time. Then I get frustrated by his tunnel and questioning so I tend to make a decision on the flip of a hat whether I'm going to troll or not with a high tendency to troll.

This game there was actually no one like rayn so I was able to stick to my goal of keeping trolling to a minimum since I didn't get frustrated by someone tunneling me.

I don't think this post is relevant though because again, it's meta, it's been 2 years, I'm trying to be reformed, a lot happens in 2 years, irl stuff that changes perspectives, this is just a game, etc, etc, yadda, yadda.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 11:00 GMT
#1300
On March 11 2018 19:51 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 19:45 rsoultin wrote:
On March 11 2018 19:42 Vivax wrote:
Kelsiers strategy of trying to skate on big puppy eyes didn't quite work. Good, good.

##Vote: Koshi


Dude, if you don't give me more than this N2, I'm going to scumread you forever. It feels like you're just content to skate by because you know we have to lynch your partner first.

I want reads. Informed by new things in thread. Not some vig shot the least common denominator crap without at least explaining how you get there.


There's enough crap in the thread to solve the game probably, but creating more crap isn't the way to solve it.

I'm also hung over and dropped moist coffee powder all over my floor and I really cba to read much today. That gabalier dude played at my village yesterday. I even saw Brits run around.

When I can get killed thanks to the mass claim already I see little reason to put in more effort. Mafia kills medics, medics kill non medics. When we are done with that I can be convinced to play more. This is the way the others chose to play and now I'm not going to get shit on for it since I was against mass claiming in the first place.

This is the same boat I am in which I think Holyflare is in too. tbh I cba to really solve the game when it's basically solved. There's no point in doing much right now when we're playing setup and not playing mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 11:05 GMT
#1304
rsoultin, can you explain why noobking is town to you?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 11:08 GMT
#1309
On March 11 2018 20:05 rsoultin wrote:
...

I'm sorry that I forced this on everyone. Apparently getting the claims out now means that scumhunting is impossible for people. My bad. I don't understand why I'm bothering if no one else can be bothered.

Maybe because noobking actually is playing, I don't know.

I have other things to do with my life than try to help figure this game out, too, you know. Like, how the hell does having mass claims mean there's no need to scum hunt? There's still two scum!

I mean I've solved the game from my perspective just it's not the optimal way to play setup so it's not going to happen. So I resign myself to not getting heard. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 11:19 GMT
#1320
On March 11 2018 08:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 08:11 n00bKing wrote:
By the way, Moosy, I've seen you play both allegiances before, and this right here:
On March 11 2018 06:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also let's calm down with the insults and flinging dirt at each other people. Its just a gaem at the end of the day whether people dont play optimally or not.

is NOT what I remember from Town Moosy. No one flings dirt and insults like Town Moosy. This "can't we all just get along?" stuff is NOT your Town meta. So I can add a meta read against you to the association case against you.

That's because I'm r e f o r m e d dude. After thinking about all the times I got mad during this game I've decided it's not worth it. It's also why I'm trying to troll a little less because people got mad over it and I don't want to ruin people's days that way. It sucks to try and play the game and have to deal with someone's shit.

@rsoultin why i changed from trolling
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 11:29 GMT
#1325
On March 11 2018 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 20:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 08:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 08:11 n00bKing wrote:
By the way, Moosy, I've seen you play both allegiances before, and this right here:
On March 11 2018 06:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also let's calm down with the insults and flinging dirt at each other people. Its just a gaem at the end of the day whether people dont play optimally or not.

is NOT what I remember from Town Moosy. No one flings dirt and insults like Town Moosy. This "can't we all just get along?" stuff is NOT your Town meta. So I can add a meta read against you to the association case against you.

That's because I'm r e f o r m e d dude. After thinking about all the times I got mad during this game I've decided it's not worth it. It's also why I'm trying to troll a little less because people got mad over it and I don't want to ruin people's days that way. It sucks to try and play the game and have to deal with someone's shit.

@rsoultin why i changed from trolling


Nh. I don't know why I asked that question anyway @.@ I can't verify why you change something.

It's just that you said that you caught scum by people piling on you D1 for trolling. So I don't know why you'd change that. And if it's an active thing you were doing, which you're not doing now, why would you expect people scumreading you?

I think you just explained why. Ofc its going to feel weird changing metas and seeing everything be different...but that doesnt mean its not going to feel weird. So ofc it felt weird. But again, its meta so I really do think its pointless to discuss this.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 11:33 GMT
#1329
On March 11 2018 20:31 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 20:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 08:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 08:11 n00bKing wrote:
By the way, Moosy, I've seen you play both allegiances before, and this right here:
On March 11 2018 06:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also let's calm down with the insults and flinging dirt at each other people. Its just a gaem at the end of the day whether people dont play optimally or not.

is NOT what I remember from Town Moosy. No one flings dirt and insults like Town Moosy. This "can't we all just get along?" stuff is NOT your Town meta. So I can add a meta read against you to the association case against you.

That's because I'm r e f o r m e d dude. After thinking about all the times I got mad during this game I've decided it's not worth it. It's also why I'm trying to troll a little less because people got mad over it and I don't want to ruin people's days that way. It sucks to try and play the game and have to deal with someone's shit.

@rsoultin why i changed from trolling


Nh. I don't know why I asked that question anyway @.@ I can't verify why you change something.

It's just that you said that you caught scum by people piling on you D1 for trolling. So I don't know why you'd change that. And if it's an active thing you were doing, which you're not doing now, why would you expect people scumreading you?

I think you just explained why. Ofc its going to feel weird changing metas and seeing everything be different...but that doesnt mean its not going to feel weird. So ofc it felt weird. But again, its meta so I really do think its pointless to discuss this.


What?

I really do want an answer. If this method worked for you in the past, why change it? And why expect people to keep scumreading you if you weren't actively trolling to try to get scum to push you?

? I just explained these 2 questions.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 11:50 GMT
#1336
On March 11 2018 20:39 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 20:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:31 rsoultin wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 08:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 08:11 n00bKing wrote:
By the way, Moosy, I've seen you play both allegiances before, and this right here:
On March 11 2018 06:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also let's calm down with the insults and flinging dirt at each other people. Its just a gaem at the end of the day whether people dont play optimally or not.

is NOT what I remember from Town Moosy. No one flings dirt and insults like Town Moosy. This "can't we all just get along?" stuff is NOT your Town meta. So I can add a meta read against you to the association case against you.

That's because I'm r e f o r m e d dude. After thinking about all the times I got mad during this game I've decided it's not worth it. It's also why I'm trying to troll a little less because people got mad over it and I don't want to ruin people's days that way. It sucks to try and play the game and have to deal with someone's shit.

@rsoultin why i changed from trolling


Nh. I don't know why I asked that question anyway @.@ I can't verify why you change something.

It's just that you said that you caught scum by people piling on you D1 for trolling. So I don't know why you'd change that. And if it's an active thing you were doing, which you're not doing now, why would you expect people scumreading you?

I think you just explained why. Ofc its going to feel weird changing metas and seeing everything be different...but that doesnt mean its not going to feel weird. So ofc it felt weird. But again, its meta so I really do think its pointless to discuss this.


What?

I really do want an answer. If this method worked for you in the past, why change it? And why expect people to keep scumreading you if you weren't actively trolling to try to get scum to push you?

? I just explained these 2 questions.


You can say that you changed because it made people angry, and that answers the first question (not entirely satisfactorily for me, but whatever, it certainly can still be true).

Stating that you're used to rayn people jumping up your ass though doesn't match up with why you said you trolled before...though tbf that was years ago. Before you said you were doing it to trap scum by luring them into pushing you. Like this was an active strategy of yours. Wasn't it? Were you lying in that town game?

This is getting into really pointless details imo. But it went something like this:

I tried to play mafia normally -> got hard scum read by geript -> feelsbadman -> played in a game with rayn -> got hard scumread by him and brutally tunneled -> feelsbadman -> saw either glowingbear or alakaslam play (i dont remember which) -> was like hey they're acting crazy to get reactions this looks fun -> played another game with rayn -> he scumreads me again -> hey this looks like a good time to troll -> trolls -> was a lot of fun actually -> get a game without rayn -> hey maybe i can try trolling this game from the start rather than as a reaction -> commence trolling d1 -> post game realize that mafia lined up on my wagon nicely -> hey this can be a legit strat -> in future games with rayn or someone I find equally obnoxious use trolling as a defense mechanism -> use trolling in games without rayn as a legitimate tactic -> fast forward 2 years -> feels bad that i made a lot of ppl hate playing the game becuz of me -> decide to not troll
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 11:52 GMT
#1338
Where are you trying to go with this rsoultin?
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 11:54 GMT
#1339
This reminds me of the game where I was VT, hard defended mafia noobking from the whole thread, told ruxxar to kill himself, and got modkilled. Except im not the one defending noobking this time
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 14:13 GMT
#1391
On March 11 2018 20:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 20:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:39 rsoultin wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:31 rsoultin wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
On March 11 2018 20:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 08:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 11 2018 08:11 n00bKing wrote:
By the way, Moosy, I've seen you play both allegiances before, and this right here:
[quote]
is NOT what I remember from Town Moosy. No one flings dirt and insults like Town Moosy. This "can't we all just get along?" stuff is NOT your Town meta. So I can add a meta read against you to the association case against you.

That's because I'm r e f o r m e d dude. After thinking about all the times I got mad during this game I've decided it's not worth it. It's also why I'm trying to troll a little less because people got mad over it and I don't want to ruin people's days that way. It sucks to try and play the game and have to deal with someone's shit.

@rsoultin why i changed from trolling


Nh. I don't know why I asked that question anyway @.@ I can't verify why you change something.

It's just that you said that you caught scum by people piling on you D1 for trolling. So I don't know why you'd change that. And if it's an active thing you were doing, which you're not doing now, why would you expect people scumreading you?

I think you just explained why. Ofc its going to feel weird changing metas and seeing everything be different...but that doesnt mean its not going to feel weird. So ofc it felt weird. But again, its meta so I really do think its pointless to discuss this.


What?

I really do want an answer. If this method worked for you in the past, why change it? And why expect people to keep scumreading you if you weren't actively trolling to try to get scum to push you?

? I just explained these 2 questions.


You can say that you changed because it made people angry, and that answers the first question (not entirely satisfactorily for me, but whatever, it certainly can still be true).

Stating that you're used to rayn people jumping up your ass though doesn't match up with why you said you trolled before...though tbf that was years ago. Before you said you were doing it to trap scum by luring them into pushing you. Like this was an active strategy of yours. Wasn't it? Were you lying in that town game?

This is getting into really pointless details imo. But it went something like this:

I tried to play mafia normally -> got hard scum read by geript -> feelsbadman -> played in a game with rayn -> got hard scumread by him and brutally tunneled -> feelsbadman -> saw either glowingbear or alakaslam play (i dont remember which) -> was like hey they're acting crazy to get reactions this looks fun -> played another game with rayn -> he scumreads me again -> hey this looks like a good time to troll -> trolls -> was a lot of fun actually -> get a game without rayn -> hey maybe i can try trolling this game from the start rather than as a reaction -> commence trolling d1 -> post game realize that mafia lined up on my wagon nicely -> hey this can be a legit strat -> in future games with rayn or someone I find equally obnoxious use trolling as a defense mechanism -> use trolling in games without rayn as a legitimate tactic -> fast forward 2 years -> feels bad that i made a lot of ppl hate playing the game becuz of me -> decide to not troll


good read

good read as in it was good to read as in well-written or good read as in it's a good meta read?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 14:18 GMT
#1394
On March 11 2018 20:59 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2018 20:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
This reminds me of the game where I was VT, hard defended mafia noobking from the whole thread, told ruxxar to kill himself, and got modkilled. Except im not the one defending noobking this time


Is there a specific reason this reminds you of that...i.e. a way in particular that he's playing...or is it just that you did it once and you were wrong?

What he's doing reminds me of mafia noobking. In that game I thought he was town when he was Mafia and he hard pocketed me. Almost everyone else said he was mafia except for me so it was essentially me and noobking vs everyone else. I ended up defending him until I was modkilled for being toxic to people and calling them idiots and telling them to kill themselves.

Because of that game I actually made a mental note before this game to NOT get pocketed by noobking because as a tone reader it's so easy to think he's town. Also I strongly suggest you relook your town read on him. Considering you were wrong on most things this game and you're being pocketed hard by him this game, you strongly remind me of me from that game.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 14:22 GMT
#1395
Like he's doing the same thing he did that game in this game. Hard pocket one townie, say other stuff constantly to shit up the thread and make things difficult for his hard pocketed townie and for people in general to decipher.

In the post game analysis when people were actually debating whether I should get a game ban or warning for telling people to kill themselves, Damdred said something along the lines of: "Moosy was just standard hard pocketed town he should just get warning" or something along those lines. I think that was also my second(?) game in this site so I was given just a warning for being an idiot and not knowing how to play the game.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 14:23 GMT
#1396
ayo darthfoley, vivax said he's healing koshi, who are you going to heal/want to heal?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 14:53 GMT
#1400
darthfoley does that mean you're townreading noobking? If your scum read is Vivax who do you think is the other scum
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 11 2018 19:56 GMT
#1418
On March 12 2018 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
Moosy what's this game noobking tricked you in?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii
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