On August 15 2017 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk what you're saying here. but i don't really care.
Cake is mafia.
idk what you're saying here. but i don't really care.
Cake is mafia.
Lol
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Holyflare
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On August 15 2017 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On August 15 2017 23:49 Hopeless1der wrote: Rayn if you dont start playing like you, I'm going to shoot you. Note that the most recent time I announce my target is the one that I will follow through with when I get my gun. idk what you're saying here. but i don't really care. Cake is mafia. Lol | ||
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On August 16 2017 03:56 Hopeless1der wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2017 03:52 Fecalfeast wrote: On August 16 2017 03:51 Hopeless1der wrote: On August 16 2017 03:48 Fecalfeast wrote: I don't like it because you can't ctrl+f, copy and paste, or tl search it. I said he's towny. If you don't believe my post took 12 mins or whatever why would I post that it's all been in paint? I mean if I had to pick, On August 15 2017 13:13 Fecalfeast wrote: ##vote holyflate that'd be right up there. What does my vote for my top townread to get a power have to do with jealous or my dislike of paint posts? The blue vote consist of 3 players and jealous is one of them. Your discrediting one of the judges' townread for shite tier reasoning imo. His vote was already on me and called me town wasn't it? He also said he town reads jealous so it's not really a point? | ||
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On August 16 2017 04:10 ritoky wrote: And holyflare joins the scummy pile. This just confirms the read baby! You're never this bad at reading me. | ||
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On August 16 2017 04:21 CopCake wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2017 04:04 Holyflare wrote: On August 16 2017 03:56 CopCake wrote: On August 15 2017 22:08 Conversion wrote: also if rayn is mafia, then is cop mafia too by virtue of sticking up for him? On August 15 2017 11:07 CopCake wrote: On August 15 2017 11:03 Jealous wrote: On August 15 2017 10:57 CopCake wrote: + Show Spoiler + On August 15 2017 10:49 ritoky wrote: i think the judges botched it hard on the top vote so i feel like we're going to either get more that i disagree with in the bottom or a pile of afks. i am sorry, but copcake hasn't been town. i can understand people having null reads on her or slight lean reads, but townier than an angle shooter or hopeless? no way, not even in the same realm. i think it is the absolute pinnacle of arrogance for the judges to put hf in the top thinking that they have a good enough read on him d1 to give him a power. "but if we don't protect him, he'll die n1 and we need him to champion the thread." bitch please the judges have no clue about his alignment yet just like i don't. with jealous i can see the humor and the not give a fuck attitude coming off as super town to basically an observer so that 1 i can see from their perspective. but i don't really want to vote for any of them. ![]() ![]() Like he doesn't care also pls give rayn some time :/ This comes from someone that talks to him everyday, I know he had a shitty day and got almost not sleep. This is the post HF So it's conversion and not hopeless? And it's one person not many. And it's not a scum read, it's a hypothetical. I don't think conversion scum reads rayn at that point? So why is it a forest of wolves and why did you feel the need to tell people to lynch you or whatever? What have you done other than say rayn is actually afk? Where are the scum reads/town reads? I've said rels is actually afk irl (steam) but I've actually got reads too. Soooooooo where are yours? Dude wtf, what is your problem? I said several people and said who: ritoki, tumblewood in the begining, you when rayn came back etc Honestly wtf you are putting fucking words on my mouth. I don't have a problem? I asked you what you did today and apparently it was just say that rayn was legit afk and that you got called scummy. You said you did good things that looked scummy but I don't see any of the good things. What are your reads and why? | ||
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On August 16 2017 04:28 ritoky wrote: I think your read on rayn is mostly garbo about non sequitur and unmet expectations and the method you're choosing to push it is also unconvincing garbo about making the player look dumb/contradicting themselves rather than categorizing the play as scum indicative. Where's your bullet point list that you spam on repeat 80 times making sure no one ever forgets these points that make you infallible and him always mafia? To that end I think rayn's reads are pretty fine. I can't be bothered to do that when 90% of the game is on board with it. This game mode is also semi garbage because I can't make a case to get people to vote someone when I don't even know who is going to be up for lynch. | ||
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On August 16 2017 04:31 geript wrote: On iPad, so it's hard to properly snip quotes from Ryan's big post. A few things: HF's question (@~18 hrs in) was: "Why is TW's null read on cop bad when you (Rayn) had a null read on her?" Ryan's argument sounds good, but I don't think actually is basically: TW=/=Rayn. Which is true, but Rayn isn't really analyzing what TW is doing. If Rayn (who is better and has oodles of XP with Cop) has a null read at that point on Cop, it should be more odd (to Rayn) if TW comes up with a read on her. What's even worse is that Rayn calls TW bad for post 190 (a point I agree with), but Rayn doesn't dig to realize that TW is in fact calling Cop Town there. Big point: Rayn not critically reading/analyzing Side note: there's a point to be made here that the same point can be made HF looks bad for making the argument in the first place. I'm excusing that in this case, because most good players will often stretch bad/mediocre arguments in order to push a "read" in order to get a read. Here, Ryan's 'clarification' proves the big point of him not readin/analyzing critically as Town Rayn would. Ryan's HF argument of Conversion push into Onegu push is bad. Ryan's ritoky argument is actually good. @HF why did you call ritoky' Hopeless being in top 3 read disingenuous? You basically at the same time have Hopeless in top 3 Town and hopeless' activity burst was 24 hours ago until 18 hours ago IIRC. Still looking. Hopeless started being good near when the people got picked. At least that's when I started properly town reading him? | ||
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August 15 2017 19:43 GMT
#1001
On August 16 2017 04:33 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2017 04:31 geript wrote: On iPad, so it's hard to properly snip quotes from Ryan's big post. A few things: HF's question (@~18 hrs in) was: "Why is TW's null read on cop bad when you (Rayn) had a null read on her?" Ryan's argument sounds good, but I don't think actually is basically: TW=/=Rayn. Which is true, but Rayn isn't really analyzing what TW is doing. If Rayn (who is better and has oodles of XP with Cop) has a null read at that point on Cop, it should be more odd (to Rayn) if TW comes up with a read on her. What's even worse is that Rayn calls TW bad for post 190 (a point I agree with), but Rayn doesn't dig to realize that TW is in fact calling Cop Town there. Big point: Rayn not critically reading/analyzing Side note: there's a point to be made here that the same point can be made HF looks bad for making the argument in the first place. I'm excusing that in this case, because most good players will often stretch bad/mediocre arguments in order to push a "read" in order to get a read. Here, Ryan's 'clarification' proves the big point of him not readin/analyzing critically as Town Rayn would. Ryan's HF argument of Conversion push into Onegu push is bad. Ryan's ritoky argument is actually good. @HF why did you call ritoky' Hopeless being in top 3 read disingenuous? You basically at the same time have Hopeless in top 3 Town and hopeless' activity burst was 24 hours ago until 18 hours ago IIRC. Still looking. Hopeless started being good near when the people got picked. At least that's when I started properly town reading him? Yes, he only had 1 page of filter at this point. That's why ritoky's and rayn's comments are super disingenuous. | ||
Holyflare
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August 15 2017 19:53 GMT
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August 15 2017 20:18 GMT
#1047
On August 16 2017 05:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: People, please calm down. We're aware tensions have gotten high multiple times with multiple people. No personal attacks, you guys know better than that. Consider this a general warning. Rayn confirmed town. Gg. Bye. | ||
Holyflare
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August 15 2017 20:21 GMT
#1049
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August 15 2017 20:22 GMT
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August 15 2017 20:25 GMT
#1060
On August 16 2017 05:24 Tumblewood wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2017 05:22 Holyflare wrote: Tw last minute shenanigans to try and get it off me is duly noted though i have wanted to get people off of you all day. the case is the only new thing, and i thought i was posting it with 45 minutes to deadline. and do you even think cake is scum? i mean look at that case it's pretty good. yeh but why have you wanted to get people off me all day? I don't think your case is good though | ||
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August 15 2017 20:26 GMT
#1063
On August 16 2017 05:23 ritoky wrote: voted copcake. just don't trust hf or jealous......somehow i trust copcake more.....it was a bad selection by the judges and like I said before, hopeless wasn't towny at the point judges selected and trying to break the game doesn't make anyone anything because at the end of the day it's just mechanics discussion which mafia love to do | ||
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August 15 2017 20:30 GMT
#1068
On August 16 2017 05:23 ritoky wrote: voted copcake. just don't trust hf or jealous......somehow i trust copcake more.....it was a bad selection by the judges also this this is a mafia vote 100% ritoky spends all of the first 24h shitting on copcake, has an argument with her because she forgets all of her scum reads and scum read him when she meant damdred but still scum read ritoky now he's dropped it because he doesn't trust jealous or myself but he has no problem with any of jealous' posts but definite qualms with all of copcake | ||
Holyflare
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August 15 2017 20:34 GMT
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August 15 2017 20:35 GMT
#1079
"Rayn is afk cos of real life" "People scum read me and they're wolves in a forest" When asked who scum read her she linked a post from conversion that wasn't a scum read, and said it was from hopeless. She forgot all of her scum reads. She gets annoyed when questioned about basic things. She doesn't have reads(????) When asked what good she's done today it's literally, "Told people rayn was afk" and nothing more but then she complains that people are scum reading her because she's done good things today. She can't explain what these good things are. | ||
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August 15 2017 20:35 GMT
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August 15 2017 20:37 GMT
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