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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:18 GMT
#5596
we're assuming scum has 2 roleblockers right?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:38 GMT
#5599
On June 27 2017 18:20 Blazinghand wrote:
We are?

Haven't we already killed a roleblocker, and isn't ES claiming he was roleblocked tonight?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:38 GMT
#5600
Wait, why would he know he was roleblocked when there are no notifications?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:42 GMT
#5601
1 There are no notifications unless absolutely necessary.


Is a notification to a Tracker that someone does nothing "absolutely necessary"? If a tracker gets a "null" result, as in the target doesn't move, I would not send such a message, just send nothing (I'm the guy that started the "no notifications" trend on TL).

If I was running a game, a tracker would only get a notification if he gets an actual result, and no notification and no way to tell between being roleblocked and simply not getting a result.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:43 GMT
#5602
oh fuck I'm an idiot, ES was just forgotten by the mods.

My bad.

Also @ES: consider that "no result" doesn't mean "no result" but probably means "no result or roleblocked".
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:47 GMT
#5604
On June 27 2017 18:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2017 18:38 Palmar wrote:
Wait, why would he know he was roleblocked when there are no notifications?


Read the thread please...

Just did.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:54 GMT
#5606
I've started reading Rels' filter.

First of all, I still like the fact that he recognizes I'm not mafia, that there is no way I play this way as mafia. Obviously there's the problem of he might simply know I'm not mafia. People are already accusing him of TMI regarding some lynches so you can add that to the pile.

He's also spent the last few pages of his filter basically doing nothing but talking about how good he is and bitching about being scumread.

Still not as convinced on him as I am on btdt (who just popped in until the pressure was off him. He seems extremely uninterested in actually lynching me, which is strange given how strongly he scumreads me).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:54 GMT
#5607
On June 27 2017 18:52 ruXxar wrote:
Can you read the people that actually are lynch targets today palmar?

Want some Thoughts.

always 1 step ahead of you.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:54 GMT
#5608
btw, bitching about being scumread isn't really a scumtell. I don't think it's very productive but townies do it all the time. It's non-alignment indicative.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 09:59 GMT
#5609
I wish Rels was around.

The more I read of his filter the less I think he's mafia. He's not being very productive at town, he's not doing very towny things, but his entire tone and attitude is very hard to fake as mafia.

Maybe he's just good at it.

Honestly I would much rather lynch btdt than Rels.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 10:09 GMT
#5610
Like the only reason i'd vote Rels today is if it's to save myself (I know I'm town, i think Rels is may be town).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 10:55 GMT
#5614
On June 27 2017 19:30 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2017 18:54 Palmar wrote:
I've started reading Rels' filter.

First of all, I still like the fact that he recognizes I'm not mafia, that there is no way I play this way as mafia. Obviously there's the problem of he might simply know I'm not mafia. People are already accusing him of TMI regarding some lynches so you can add that to the pile.

He's also spent the last few pages of his filter basically doing nothing but talking about how good he is and bitching about being scumread.

Still not as convinced on him as I am on btdt (who just popped in until the pressure was off him. He seems extremely uninterested in actually lynching me, which is strange given how strongly he scumreads me).


What do you think about his progression of reads throughout the game?
I feel like he is reading a totally different game than I am.
Especially his town read of grack and ES didn't make much sense to me from how the game was going.

Being right isn't a scumtell.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 10:55 GMT
#5615
But I haven't gone far back enough in Rels' filter to find the justifications for those reads.

But as someone who is often always right, I hate it when people call me scum for being right.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 10:57 GMT
#5616
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/254174-tl-mafia-xliv?page=75#1490
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 16:53 GMT
#5698
Can someone please tell me why I am mafia?

Note: if your argument is that I've been less active and less deeply involved than normal, can you provide an explanation as to why that discrepancy means I am mafia?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 16:53 GMT
#5699
And it's not rehashing discussion when I didn't read the original one, so piss off.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 16:54 GMT
#5703
On June 28 2017 00:45 disformation wrote:
hm. so votes are:
4 palmar
3 rels
1 btdt

rels votes palmar
palmar switches from btdt to rels
bh slightly perfers rels per his filter
btdt decides the lynch

Maybe you should stop sucking and vote someone who is mafia?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 16:59 GMT
#5707
On June 28 2017 01:54 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2017 01:53 Palmar wrote:
Can someone please tell me why I am mafia?

Note: if your argument is that I've been less active and less deeply involved than normal, can you provide an explanation as to why that discrepancy means I am mafia?


How about you tell us why you are town?

1) I haven't played much, but when I have I have done it with the sole intent of making reads or solving the game. I haven't engaged in any arguments or pointless fights or otherwise created content just to create it. Almost all my posts are reflections on reading a filter or commentary on something that interests me.

2) I tryhard when I'm mafia. I always do it because the QT sort of forces me to. I have my teammates there right in front of me and I get far more of a "team boost" than I do as town. In general, my play is extremely similar to a baseline of "act like a normal human being" when I'm mafia. On the other hand, when I'm town I play a myriad of styles, from lurking afk to spamming to playing characters or even having multiple personalities.

3) While some have called my reads shallow, they're all based on reality. I read something, think something about it and run with it.

4) I care more about being right than surviving. I could easily have jumped the Rels wagon, but I just don't think it's the best lynch. I really, really think btdt is 100% going to flip mafia this game. I don't really think Rels will. I will obviously lynch Rels over myself, but it's not what I want. I am truly disappointed people are buying btdt's act. Rayn saying a guy who has been here over a year is a "new player" is just... meh.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 17:03 GMT
#5710
A certain part of me accepted after the last TL game that I will always be lynched every game on TL and that's just life. I was right that entire game, played as towny as possible and got lynched anyway.

So I don't really care anymore, now I'm playing whenever I feel like doing something. I was never gonna participate in HF+Koshi spamfest on day 1, I just didn't want to.

I am hoping to read FF before I go, but based just on today I feel like it's extremely likely that the mafia team is something like:

ff+btdt+1

And I have no idea who that one is I might be missing. Also maybe I'll come back thinking FF is town if I actually read his filter, but he's not been very useful this cycle.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
June 27 2017 17:04 GMT
#5711
On June 28 2017 02:01 disformation wrote:
yo plammar:
basically:
you did play a bit d1, with that single player style or whatever.
then you drop of the face of the earth until you get a few votes slapped at you.
then you make a half-assed case on someone that look like you just went with the first remotely thing you can find. based only on d1 stuff. you didnt mention/notice btdt wasn't there at eod and the other stuff i pointed out earlier this day phase.
you dont respond to me pointing that out. you dont look at the other parts of btdt's filter. you dont push btdt.
instead you first make a super creepy buddy post onto me and now you start calling me names.

there is 0 reason to think you are town.

That's where you're wrong kiddo
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