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On June 30 2017 03:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think you're town but I also don't like your spam or your jumping on me after calling memtown all game
well fair enough.
think i'll go through some filters again tomorrow and/or in the night phase. might have missed someone/something.
but for this dayphase my vote is already on scum so i am more than happy.
think ill tap out for today too. getting an headache.
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to quote:
The scumteam have one strongman shot they may use against any blue role which passes through all protection. The target, if blue, will die at phase change. This shot may be used at day or night when the mafia team notify the host. If the shot hits a non-blue role, the shot is spent.
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but btdt is obv fakeclaiming so the point is kinda moot. gn8
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yeah i kinda thought a strongman is generally an unblockable that kills only blues. my bad i guess.
one of the reasons i softed vet early game. hope they at least rolecopped me or something.
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if they actually had one such shot and used it on me and that is why i am still alive i will laugh for ages post game. =D
but i fear that is a tad unrealistic.
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*rolleyes*
i tried to get scum to get scum to use actions on me.
dorsnt rly matter if it is an rb, a rolecop or a strongarm.
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i already mentioned the strongarm pregame btw.
so not too far fetched to consifer that as a possibility.
i was doing this "yo scum 1v1 tonight" all over the place. no time to look up when the first time was atm. prolly as early as d1 or n1.
dont really understand the problem with "hey i bet scum has anti blue roles, lets see if i can bait them into using them on me"
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what happened to va and skynx eh?
you were 1000% sure on skynx to a point were you do insane shit eod and suddenly you drop that read and its va and me.
that also reminds me that there is another problem with your claim. will post soon when i have more time.
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On June 30 2017 00:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
because I expected the kill on VA. There was this jailor talk and when I submitted the check, I didn't know it was bullshit
and my checks weren't horrible. I yelled for a vig shot on Xata because I had a good chance to confirm the vig if only he had shot.
And watching Ruxxar was actually a misunderstanding about how my role worked, I thought I also get info when he moves like a tracker, I've never seen this role previously
according to the first sentence he apparently thought that:
parity cop
tracker
watcher
vigi
jk
vet
sounds like a legit setup.
dont think he has hosted a large yet, but i think he hosted enough games to know that is bs.
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also es posted this post:
On June 27 2017 07:33 Eversince wrote:
You're super super mafia Disfo. 100%.
I'm kidding, still forever townreading you.
Update also; mods just forgot me, i didn't receive a check result back for like 20 mins and assumed I was RB'd. I got msged 50 mins after Day start. He didn't follow anyone. So nothing useful to report.
I don't like Palmar immediately disappearing D4 after my claim. Pressure removed and he's gone again. His stuff on BTDT isn't great. He's not getting attention today and he's handily given rehashed of things that got discussed for over a week. What new point to the discussion did he actually generate?
first half of d5. fairly early even.
i am also pretty sure it got repeated/clarified a few times until n5 and that btdt was in the thread before that.
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eh after that/during that.*
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tilted?
i am voting fakeclaiming scum, pretty happy atm
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well there was this one themed game. disfo town. btdt scum.
first he tried to get me to tilt.
then later send me a msg (via game mechanic) and claims cop with a green check on me to me.
i cover for him with a lie about the message when some townies were looking angrily at him.
because of the lie he thinks the hosts screwed over his plan with that message and ragequits for a cycle.
in the end he won for bussing a team mate very hard.
though he also fake claimed a cop with a fake red check as vt in a newbie game.
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On July 01 2017 00:48 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2017 00:45 disformation wrote:
well there was this one themed game. disfo town. btdt scum.
first he tried to get me to tilt.
then later send me a msg (via game mechanic) and claims cop with a green check on me to me.
i cover for him with a lie about the message when some townies were looking angrily at him.
because of the lie he thinks the hosts screwed over his plan with that message and ragequits for a cycle.
in the end he won for bussing a team mate very hard.
though he also fake claimed a cop with a fake red check as vt in a newbie game. yep, that last part got the doc and me lynched. This is not really what happened. I averted those townies on my own and I didn't have too much specific pressure on me. You were just buying it all day and night long and never believed I was scum. As I said in the beginning of the game, it's super easy to pocket you and the fact that I raged all game long in your direction should be a huge towntell to you. Especially since I'm not tilting you. We're kinda grinding against each other until we (mainly I) explode. That's a huge difference.
um. wat?
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dude you are insulting me left and right on daily basis starting like day 3?
where are you not trying your hardest to tilt me?
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aight omw home. will reply after dinner etc.
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okay cupcakes
lets cake some cups
On July 01 2017 00:48 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2017 00:45 disformation wrote:
well there was this one themed game. disfo town. btdt scum.
first he tried to get me to tilt.
then later send me a msg (via game mechanic) and claims cop with a green check on me to me.
i cover for him with a lie about the message when some townies were looking angrily at him.
because of the lie he thinks the hosts screwed over his plan with that message and ragequits for a cycle.
in the end he won for bussing a team mate very hard.
though he also fake claimed a cop with a fake red check as vt in a newbie game. yep, that last part got the doc and me lynched. This is not really what happened. I averted those townies on my own and I didn't have too much specific pressure on me. You were just buying it all day and night long and never believed I was scum. As I said in the beginning of the game, it's super easy to pocket you and the fact that I raged all game long in your direction should be a huge towntell to you. Especially since I'm not tilting you. We're kinda grinding against each other until we (mainly I) explode. That's a huge difference.
what is that to be supposed to then:
On June 28 2017 17:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
really take your salty comments and take them to a location where nobody cares about them because I am sick of people having 50 pages of filter yet having contributed nothing of value expect confirming themselves as town
and with "people" I mean you
esp. after i mentioned earlier this game that i absolutely hate ppl saying i did nothing.
On July 01 2017 00:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
In the meantime, while you do the main work pushing me, people like rayn get away with a super cheap vote on me. People like BH get away with planned shennanies that are clearly scum-indicative. Rels gets away with being a super close counter wagon to town, just like the Xata and Annul wagons D1. VA gets away with 4 pages of filter. He has contributed 4 pages to thus far 322 pages of game, his claim is clearly a fake and disformation's talk points heavily to him TMI'ing.
I didn't know about the Star Wars game so it's entirely possible that disfo is town, after all. I gotta admit that besides VA, I am not sure about anyone anymore. Maybe the correct approach to this game is to fully reset after I flipped. Completely reset, go back through my filter, read my checks, and see if you get any intel out of them. Town has been wrong ever since Xata flipped.
We should ask questions like
- Who didn't care at all about the Grack lynch? Who let it happen?
- Who disappears for the majority of time and only comes back when it's somewhat needed to push the threads slightly into a certain direction?
Like, don't go for "this is scummy" anymore and then chop up the specific situation until everyone is raged. Instead, re-read the game. Go back to Grack flip, read the day from then on. Maybe even earlier. Maybe Ruxxar didn't "bait scum" like he claimed when he unvoted Xata. Maybe he tried to not vote scum and in case he would've gained traction, he could've saved scum RB.
There are lots and lots of hints in this game. Maybe even in Tumblewood's filter.
Use them.
nice adise. i think you had more good advise today:
On July 01 2017 00:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
can you just put in the fucking work by yourself?
cause so far today you have spent nearly all time yelling at people, insulting people, faking a claim, appealing to emotion a bit and dropped all reads today. well, beside me and va.
You said a few times that i am not willing to reconsider and stuff.
but wait what is this:
On June 30 2017 00:13 disformation wrote:
unvoting for a second.
need to think
and then i proceeded to look at the setup and at your claimed actions and came to the realization that you are 100% fake claiming.
which brings me to the setup you are claiming:
On July 01 2017 01:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
[...]
* Watcher
* Parity Cop
* Town Tracker
* Veteran
[...]
now let me put out my hosting balance notes, again:
How to Balance 101 - the Palmar way (confirmations/number of days)
Count your invs (DT of any kind, vig, town RB/banisher/JK, tracker, watcher) versus the number of mafia.
Make sure in a worst case scenario, the entire mafia team cannot get confirmed the first night (for a 3-player scumteam) or the first two nights (for a 5-player scumteam assuming a mislynch day 1 and 2.
Delayed checks (like gunsmith over a vig, or a parity DT) can help with this if you want to multiply inv roles.
Make sure the number of EVs doesn't exceed 20 percent.
(4 against 19 town is 21% for this game but this is still not really bad).
EVs (or negative EVs) are passive roles such as godfather (untrackable/check immune), ninja (untrackable but still returns red), wanderer, miller.
For a given number of blues, you need to consider adding either a mafia rolecop to eliminate the sheer threat of blue roles or an anti-blue claim mechanism (such as a factional strongman, soup kills, etc). Consider whether there is a tracker before you decide on the mechanism. You can also allow such mechanisms to happen during the day.
(there's more to this, but we takled about a lot)
in btdt's world we have:
parity cop
tracker
watcher
so in the mechanical worst case for scum:
n1:
watcher finds 1st scum
tracker finds 2nd scum
n2:
watcher finds 3rd scum
tracker finds 4th scum
parity cop finds 5th scum
all 5 scum found start of d3.
Count your invs (DT of any kind, vig, town RB/banisher/JK, tracker, watcher) versus the number of mafia.
Make sure in a worst case scenario, the entire mafia team cannot get confirmed the first night (for a 3-player scumteam) or the first two nights (for a 5-player scumteam assuming a mislynch day 1 and 2.
so unless 1eg and hats made an unbalance game on purpose, it is impossible for btdt to be a watcher. i also got these very notes from hats and i find it unlikely she would put on a setup like that.
i conclude you are scum that tried to get out of pressure by fake claiming and messed up hard.
and i dont see any reason to vote anyone else.
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scum has 2 kp.
scummer a,b,c,d,e
n1
scummer a shoots onegu
tracker tracks scummer a. onegu dies.
scummer b shoots hats.
watcher watches hats. hats dies.
parity cop checks ultra town player artanis.
2 scummer down.
n2
scummer c shoots ritoky,
tracker tracks scummer c. ritoky dies.
scummer d shoots kitaman.
watcher watches kitaman. kitaman dies.
parity cop checks scummy lurker e. receives "not same".
5 scummers down.
like even if they ml artanis first, the scummers are all accounted for.
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EPT
