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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:31 GMT
#701
1)darthfoley
3)Palmar
4)Rels
7)Tumblewood (do we know mafia knows the setup or did he slip?)
11)raynpelikoneet
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
18)annul
20)sicklucker
21)ruXxar
22)Eversince
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:32 GMT
#702
And the people missing from that list are only "do not lynch D1" atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 14 2017 20:33 GMT
#703
what do you mean about me slipping?
good times for all
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:34 GMT
#704
On June 15 2017 05:33 Tumblewood wrote:
what do you mean about me slipping?

why do you think mafia knows the setup?
I had a good night of sleep.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 14 2017 20:35 GMT
#705
On June 15 2017 05:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 05:33 Tumblewood wrote:
what do you mean about me slipping?

why do you think mafia knows the setup?

i don't?
good times for all
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:37 GMT
#706
On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them

Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim.
They are more likely town if SL is mafia.

or what do you mean?

believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim

What do you mean then? If they are mafia without information there is really no problem with them believing the claim. And if they are mafia with information they can still pretend so w.e

But what do you mean with it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have
I had a good night of sleep.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 14 2017 20:38 GMT
#707
On June 15 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them

Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim.
They are more likely town if SL is mafia.

or what do you mean?

believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim

What do you mean then? If they are mafia without information there is really no problem with them believing the claim. And if they are mafia with information they can still pretend so w.e

But what do you mean with it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have

when i said that i meant they know the scumteam. so if they see sl claiming a red check, unless they are scum with eversince they should know he's bullshitting
good times for all
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 14 2017 20:39 GMT
#708
On June 15 2017 05:19 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.

It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities.

^
This.

Now people are killing him because he said his top town read was Sicklucker.

Who is voting him for that reason?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:41 GMT
#709
On June 15 2017 05:38 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them

Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim.
They are more likely town if SL is mafia.

or what do you mean?

believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim

What do you mean then? If they are mafia without information there is really no problem with them believing the claim. And if they are mafia with information they can still pretend so w.e

But what do you mean with it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have

when i said that i meant they know the scumteam. so if they see sl claiming a red check, unless they are scum with eversince they should know he's bullshitting

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ok I understand what you were trying to say.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 14 2017 20:46 GMT
#710
On June 15 2017 05:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 05:19 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.

It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities.

^
This.

Now people are killing him because he said his top town read was Sicklucker.

Who is voting him for that reason?

looking forward to see an answer to that question.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
June 14 2017 20:46 GMT
#711
On June 15 2017 04:48 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
I eagerly await your explanation of sicklucker as your top town. I understand phone posting is shitty so i will wait for a keyboard


This one is easy to explain.

Hard claiming cop with a positive scum read is suicide if you are mafia.

If in whatever circumstance eversince is exposed to be town, then sicklucker would be an autolynch.

I think that's a fast way to throw the game as mafia.

It's not a play I would make as mafia, therefore I think he is town.


im down for a ruxxar lynch as a result of this post btw
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:47 GMT
#712
Oh darthfoley is still on my list. Big mistake because atm he looks top town to me. He is like do not reconsider till D3 and he has been scummy as fuck territory.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:48 GMT
#713
3)Palmar
4)Rels
11)raynpelikoneet
12)Xatalos
13)AMG
14)marvellosity
15)Grackaroni
18)annul
20)sicklucker
21)ruXxar
22)Eversince

Update
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 14 2017 20:50 GMT
#714
On June 15 2017 05:47 Koshi wrote:
Oh darthfoley is still on my list. Big mistake because atm he looks top town to me. He is like do not reconsider till D3 and he has been scummy as fuck territory.

was in your filter trying to figure out why he was on the list. nvm.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:50 GMT
#715
Oh and I don't think VA is mafia because I think he wants to solve the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:52 GMT
#716
##unvote
##vote marv


The only one who as mafia would not make a post till he feels like doing so after waking up D1
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:53 GMT
#717
On June 15 2017 05:50 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 05:47 Koshi wrote:
Oh darthfoley is still on my list. Big mistake because atm he looks top town to me. He is like do not reconsider till D3 and he has been scummy as fuck territory.

was in your filter trying to figure out why he was on the list. nvm.

yeah big mistake. He has been top top top town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:54 GMT
#718
On June 15 2017 05:52 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote marv


The only one who as mafia would not make a post till he feels like doing so after waking up D1

##unvote
##vote marv


The only one who as mafia would not make a post till he feels like doing so after waking up D2
I had a good night of sleep.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 14 2017 20:56 GMT
#719
On June 15 2017 05:17 disformation wrote:
think i am getting an headache.
i am not sure I like hf's post on koshi. the case one. i feel like hf is overdramatizing some points.
on the other hand i am not sure i like kohsis response either.

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia.


Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.
That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con.

This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns.

The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed.

this post is fairly overexplainy and hard to follow in general. can you break it down into a core message and write what you wanted to say in like 2 sentences?


I can try!

Koshi saying mafia HF would back off makes no sense to me. Town HF would hopefully look at the bigger picture and adjust reads. Mafia HF would have no reason to at this point I think. (Town Koshi is a mis-lynch, 3p Koshi is less likely to work with you if you spend all your time trying to kill him). A large part of me wants to say HF is town. A little part of me is worried by the fact HF has spent lots of time focusing on two people and not anything else (his words).

Short short tldr:

HF thinks Koshi is anti-town. Decide HF motive yourself. Koshi needs to be more vocal about his opinions. If Koshi gets lynched by the town for not being productive then fine. If he gets mis-lynched because thread sentiment makes it easy... not so much.





Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 20:58 GMT
#720
Yeah. I think with Xatalos/annul/grack you have the more scummy active posters. And then the others on that list are low volume + afk.

All other active posters I think are very likely town. Or should only be looked at again D3 or even D4. And from the low volume posters I went on a stretch sometimes but it is my opinion and I stand behind it.
I had a good night of sleep.
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