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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 26 2017 16:55 GMT
#5541
On June 27 2017 01:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2017 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 27 2017 01:43 Palmar wrote:
It's really just HF's insistence at some point that rayn is mafia that keeps that door open. No idea actually if hf changed his mind later.

what?

how do you not understand that?

I think you're town for your content, but for some reason hf kept calling you mafia early day 1, and HF is like at least mid-tier, possibly high-tier player.

Ohh sorry, i thought you were saying HF was saying i am calling Rels mafia for bla bla bla which he never did. Holyflare didn't even think i am mafia, he was just gauging for my reaction, just FYI.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 16:56 GMT
#5542
On June 27 2017 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean the first time i called Rels mafia is this post:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 23:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Rels is mafia.

and after this Holyflare hasn't said anything about my read on Rels (which wasn't even in the thread before) so idk what you're talking about Palmar?

You're just failing at reading as usual.

Carry on.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 16:56 GMT
#5543
yeah I'm not overly worried, there is no immediate future in which I think you may be mafia, so might as well not think about it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 16:57 GMT
#5544
I'll read your Rels stuff later (if you wanna quote what you mean by that 1st point that'd be helpful)
Computer says mafia
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 26 2017 16:57 GMT
#5545
On June 27 2017 01:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2017 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 27 2017 01:43 Palmar wrote:
It's really just HF's insistence at some point that rayn is mafia that keeps that door open. No idea actually if hf changed his mind later.

what?

how do you not understand that?

I think you're town for your content, but for some reason hf kept calling you mafia early day 1, and HF is like at least mid-tier, possibly high-tier player.


Yet he was wrong on his last wish lynches of koshi and sicklucker.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
June 26 2017 17:00 GMT
#5546
People who don't want to lynch BTDT today: what's your reasoning?
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 17:05 GMT
#5547
rayn just wrote a post on it bh

I think it's mostly just "too scummy to be scum"

Which can be valid, but I don't really buy it in this case.
Computer says mafia
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 26 2017 17:05 GMT
#5548
On June 27 2017 02:00 Blazinghand wrote:
People who don't want to lynch BTDT today: what's your reasoning?


Btdt highlights:

- fighting vs chez on xata cop claim.
- analysis of vote count after grack lynch.

Both are such bad attempts at trying to do something productive for town that I think careful mafia would've tried hard with a solid case or simply not said anything at all.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 26 2017 17:15 GMT
#5549
On June 27 2017 01:57 Palmar wrote:
I'll read your Rels stuff later (if you wanna quote what you mean by that 1st point that'd be helpful)

- I accused Rels of thinking Eversince is town for absolutely retarded reason.
- Rels responded that i was accusing him of something he didn't say, because he didn't say what eversince did (let's call this thing X) said made her town, it was only a slight town indicator
- I told him that i don't care, but he originally wrote "wow that makes Eversince town" which doesn't really sound like it's a "small townie indicator". I wanted to know why he originally wrote that sentence.
- Rels answered and told me he didn't call Eversince town, then explained why it is just a small town indicator.
- I told him he is just answering in circles. And that the answer doesn't even go well together with the original post.

Now there this X thing is the following.
People were accusing of Eversince saving Xatalos by faking an entrance to the thread (which was accidently remembering something annul posted was from Xatalos - or vice versa, anyways that's irrelevant). The thing is people make these kind of mistakes all the time, and it doesn't mean anything towards their alignment. I know people think it does, but Rels shouldn't, because he is good enough of a player to realize misremembering a thing doesn't make someone anything, and you can't tell if the person actually misremembered or faked the stuff. It's a completely null tell. So all in all:

- Rels called something completely null townie (most likely because he jsut hastily worte a post and has TMI against a dumb case).
- When i questioned him for it he never gave me straight answers and was just defending his towncase by saying "it's not that townie i agree but it still is". When i said, "no, it is not, and that's not even what you originally wrote", he just kept on saying the same thing over and over again until noone cared anymore.
- As i said before i would have been completely okay if he had just said "i had a brainfart and you're right", but instead he did this thing in where you know you've been rightly accused since you're mafia and you just try to slowly get away from the argument or make the argument so fucking complicated noone cares anymore - when it is in fact a very simple argument. I have seen it many times.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 26 2017 17:16 GMT
#5550
I'm just gonna sheep disfo because if he's wood league I'm dirt league
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 26 2017 17:19 GMT
#5551
Like even if you don't understand any of the points understand this:
- rels calls me mafia because i am "unsmart"
- rels calls chezitwo mafia because of something marv did in another game
- rels calls skynx mafia when skynx has almost the exact same mafia list rels does
- rels calls ruxxar mafia but has yet to read ruxxars filter

what a bunch of jokes for reads.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 26 2017 17:19 GMT
#5552
On June 26 2017 19:14 Palmar wrote:
Holy shit does beentheredonethat's filter look bad when considering Xatalos.

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 20:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Xata you're not saying anything in your posts, you're just commenting on things and speculating about 3rd party

that's superbad


Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 21:15 beentheredonethat wrote:
Xata disappeared?


Two random comments with no meat on them and no real attempt to lynch the guy he's calling superbad and disappearing. Instead, when df offers a wagon on Xatalos, it's instead met with (weak) resistance:

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 Koshi wrote:
Let me do this:
##vote btdt
- Focused on a very small part of this thread.
- Reads seem more opportunistic than real.
- Very strong and closed in his language/thoughts. Not carefree and open.


I can explain it with many words but I am going to keep it at this for the time being.

so I

a) comment intensely on koshi/hf/you
b) scumread you, not following the 3p thing (alhtough a vote is a vote of course)
c) call out annul
d) poke xata

* and I'm opportunistic? Opportinistic would be to vote rayn
* a small part of this thread? the major part of this thread.

how am I not carefree? I think I'm super carefree lol


Let's vote Xata together, right now. You and I. Forever.

While I favour the general idea, can you please state your reasons?


Read the entire quote that follows. On what level are btdt's contributions helpful or insightful at all.

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

#3 to say that
(I think, maybe more)

darth comes on the town pile.



If he's the third person to say it why is he town??


TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect

So passive aggressive

but for real, my impression is that darth is catching up and quoting and posting where he deems it appropriate. super gut feeling but I think it's town. not only does he think the same about ruxxar as I do, he also doesn't like Xata apparently and I don't like Xata, too


And through it all, btdt sits on Koshi, despite thinking koshi looks better and Xata worse:

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.


btdt ended the day as a single random vote on Koshi instead of trying to kill his scumread. Then he bitched about it in the night:

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 14:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
bad thing: Koshi lynch averted
bad thing #2: annul being lynched over xata
good thing: xata being 2nd wagon

I think a scum!xata will give us lots of indication and I highly suggest xata to be shot at night.


Maybe should have done something about that?

I think there is about 100% chance btdt is mafia

##Vote beentheredonethat

I'm not done with his filter, but this day 1 looks very much terrible. I was getting paranoid that I was being to lenient because like the first 4 people I read actually look like townies, but this guy doesn't look like a townie at all on first glance.

Please give me reasons why I should townread him if anyone has any. To me this is almost a good enough case on it's own.

I actually read this now. One nitpick, why does btdt call for a shot on xata if he's on xatas team?

I totally agree with the logic here though and may sheep you instead now.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
June 26 2017 17:20 GMT
#5553
Would still be ok lynching rels too.

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 26 2017 17:22 GMT
#5554
I gotta leave for work in a hour or so and have something to eat before.
##vote Rels
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
June 26 2017 17:26 GMT
#5555
I'm fine with Rels lynch I'm just not sure I'm buying the "too scummy to be scum" argument on BTDT. TBH I think we have enough free lynches here that order doesn't matter as long as we're lynching into the scum pool though.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 17:27 GMT
#5556
from the top of my head on btdt:
- his d1 can come from town
- totally unnecessary fight over the cop thing d2, suicidal as scum
- generally has a town meta where this game would fit into

and kinda what ruxxar said.
so unless his plan is to trigger me as often as possible so he can shitfight with me he is prolly town
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 17:29 GMT
#5557
thing is. palmars case on btdt is really surface level and low effort, but looks not absolutely shitty.
also uses old materials so the thread gains nothing new.

so not too happy with palmar so far.

but i also wanted to look at rels again. so ill do that next and see if palmar comes up with some better stuff.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 17:30 GMT
#5558
also palmars buddy buddy post gives me immense creeps
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 26 2017 17:45 GMT
#5559
I would probably be okay with sheeping rayn, just so it's out there.

aka, if Rels reads the thread he needs to be aware that I'm potentially okay with killing him.

My not-today list is: disfo, ruxx, skynx, VA, ES, rayn.

The remaining four, bh, btdt, rels and ff are either scummy (btdt) or I haven't read them yet (the other three)
Computer says mafia
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 17:54 GMT
#5560
hmm...
rechecked the thing from earlier in rels filter. misremembered, that part looks clean.
will read whole filter later on
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