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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 23 2017 14:28 GMT
#5141
On June 23 2017 23:26 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 23:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:21 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:11 Chezitwo wrote:
Fail.

Post was supposed to say: then who is mafia and why? Unreasoned lists do not count as an answer.


I could lynch TW.
I could lynch Eversince.
I could lynch Palmar.

Disfo is ??
BTDT is ??

Maybe 1 mafia between Rels - Rayn (BH?), but all are active so most likely no lynch today.

Fefe, Chez, Va, Skynx town.

If you want more details you'll have to wait until later. Gotta finish my work.

I don't understand how you do not trust my reads but pull Eversince and Palmar out of my scum list and are super happy to lynch them. And the double question marks on disfo - like WTF either you townread him by now due to sheer effort put into the game OR you scumread him for being still alive or whatever reasons you have

but there's no way you have a null on disfo. same on me - you say you don't trust my reads but you're not pushing me, nor are you townreading me.


You think you're the first person to think up this novel idea that they look scummy?
That they haven't looked scummy all game?

Come on, you are better than that.

I am fairly certain that I am the only one continuesly scumreading them since N2/D3. Might be my own perception but this is where thoughts began to form in my had.

Why do you have "??" on disfo and me?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:30 GMT
#5142
That reminds me, I actually want to put rayn on my town pile for his genuine reaction to palmars bullshit read:

On June 16 2017 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

Wow Palmar.....
On June 16 2017 16:50 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
No way.

On June 16 2017 16:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

hahaha
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 14:32 GMT
#5143
oh we're voting me today?

could we rather do it next cycle so it doesn't happen on a weekend?
Computer says mafia
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 23 2017 14:34 GMT
#5144
On June 23 2017 23:32 Palmar wrote:
oh we're voting me today?

could we rather do it next cycle so it doesn't happen on a weekend?

You already had more than enough time to start playing the game.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 14:36 GMT
#5145
On June 23 2017 13:45 Tumblewood wrote:
but one thing we can be 99.9999% sure about is either rayn or palmar is scum. because rayn and palmar are the only natural town leaders still alive and also very respected players, so in any case where scum is a bunch of non-leaders they are 99.9999% killing rayn or palmar



On June 23 2017 14:57 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 14:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
What game are you playing where palmar is a town.leaser

he's not playing as one but he's the kind of guy who could at any moment. like always scary even when he's not doing anything


This is a possible bullshit vote. I'll give it a rating of maybe 4/10. He never explains explicitly why he is voting me or why he suspects me. He barely even talked about me until the general consensus of the game was that I should be talked about.

But he does get some credit for being the first guy on the wagon.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 23 2017 14:36 GMT
#5146
On June 23 2017 23:30 ruXxar wrote:
That reminds me, I actually want to put rayn on my town pile for his genuine reaction to palmars bullshit read:

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

Wow Palmar.....
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:50 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
No way.

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 16:42 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

hahaha

Thats a terrible reason to townread me but tell me why i can be mafia in your opinion?

Or disformation?
table for two on a tv tray
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:38 GMT
#5147
On June 23 2017 23:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 23:26 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:21 ruXxar wrote:
On June 23 2017 23:11 Chezitwo wrote:
Fail.

Post was supposed to say: then who is mafia and why? Unreasoned lists do not count as an answer.


I could lynch TW.
I could lynch Eversince.
I could lynch Palmar.

Disfo is ??
BTDT is ??

Maybe 1 mafia between Rels - Rayn (BH?), but all are active so most likely no lynch today.

Fefe, Chez, Va, Skynx town.

If you want more details you'll have to wait until later. Gotta finish my work.

I don't understand how you do not trust my reads but pull Eversince and Palmar out of my scum list and are super happy to lynch them. And the double question marks on disfo - like WTF either you townread him by now due to sheer effort put into the game OR you scumread him for being still alive or whatever reasons you have

but there's no way you have a null on disfo. same on me - you say you don't trust my reads but you're not pushing me, nor are you townreading me.


You think you're the first person to think up this novel idea that they look scummy?
That they haven't looked scummy all game?

Come on, you are better than that.

I am fairly certain that I am the only one continuesly scumreading them since N2/D3. Might be my own perception but this is where thoughts began to form in my had.

Why do you have "??" on disfo and me?


I have a ?? on you because I can't make up my mind on if you are consistently trying to play dumb this game as mafia
or if you genuinely don't follow the game and actually believe what you're writing.

I have a ?? on disfo, since he's waffling like a hot potato.
I had him as strong town until day 3.

On day 3 he started acting real weird and trolling.
Either he's super bored town, just as I was or he's actually mafia trying to bamboozle everyone.

If I didn't have such strong town read on him from day 1 and 2, I would lump him into the scum pile.

It also goes against the analysis I made of Xata and Disformation being different alignment.
I was super convinced when I wrote it, but he's making me more and more unsure of that.
My faith in pure vote count analysis has turned out to be pretty lackluster thus fast.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 23 2017 14:39 GMT
#5148
ugh always forget you dont play on the we palmar.
well. maybe start with:
why the ninja vote on bh?
who should we lynch instead?

and if you are town feel free to otherwise paint town rainbows all over the thread
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 14:42 GMT
#5149
On June 23 2017 20:41 Rels wrote:
I think Palmar needs to go.
##Vote Palmar


Not gonna quote all the important mentions.

In general Rels has never really thought I'm scum. I am willing to err on the side of insightful rather than tmi with that. Rels knows me and knows this is not really how I play scum. I tend to switch up my playstyles a lot more when I'm town.

Like even at this point Rels talks about me flipping non-town, rather than mafia, because he knows that there is no chance I play like this when on a mafia team, the QT tends to keep me at least with the appearance of trying. Now of course there's a chance Rels isn't this smart and is just pushing information he knows, but I think that's the less likely scenario.

In general I give his vote a 7/10. The only reason it isn't higher really is that it's flat out stupid to assume there are third parties, but I also have a feeling that he sort of just wants to pressure me into playing.
Computer says mafia
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 23 2017 14:44 GMT
#5150
On June 23 2017 21:32 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 21:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
at this point I think Eversince is basically confirmed scum by the way. She's not there, not modkilled, no contribution, nothing at all, and what a coincidence, all while nobody talks about her.

I realize people are after Palmar? Why?

oh and ##vote Skynx

Says ES is confirmed mafia.
Votes skynx.

this guy is scum bro..
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:46 GMT
#5151
On June 23 2017 23:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 23:30 ruXxar wrote:
That reminds me, I actually want to put rayn on my town pile for his genuine reaction to palmars bullshit read:

On June 16 2017 17:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

Wow Palmar.....
On June 16 2017 16:50 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
No way.

On June 16 2017 16:42 Koshi wrote:
On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote:
I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.

hahaha

Thats a terrible reason to townread me but tell me why i can be mafia in your opinion?

Or disformation?


Reasons why you can be mafia:

Bickering with rels nitpicking over wording of a text about eversince.
Ganging up on rels together with BH looked real suspicious.
Claiming SL was town and defending him during EOD made me think you three were possible scum team, since you all were deadset on lynching Rels.

After SL flipped, that theory pretty much fell through.

Also calling the two wagons town v town seemed like a TMI moment.



"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 23 2017 14:51 GMT
#5152
On June 23 2017 23:44 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 21:32 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 23 2017 21:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
at this point I think Eversince is basically confirmed scum by the way. She's not there, not modkilled, no contribution, nothing at all, and what a coincidence, all while nobody talks about her.

I realize people are after Palmar? Why?

oh and ##vote Skynx

Says ES is confirmed mafia.
Votes skynx.

this guy is scum bro..


Reasons?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 23 2017 14:57 GMT
#5153
As long as: disfo, Rels, rayn, Ruxxar, Chez, VA, fefe work together this game is pretty much over. 3 ppl confirmed by roles, rest are decent scumhunters.

4 mafia and 1 3P in Palmar, TW, ES, btdt, BH sounds about right.

If it comes to confirm btdt by flipping me we still have 1 more ml so happy days
I might actually step it up if I'm bothered but I just feel like i hate everyone when i actually put in some effort and people get on me like 'whats the point of this?'.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
June 23 2017 14:59 GMT
#5154
On June 23 2017 20:49 Chezitwo wrote:
Pull yourself together man. It is getting slightly annoying how much you pity yourself.

We can create a wagon on Palmar and see what happens. Sure. But I do not think he has the highest chance of being mafia.


It's harder to apply the possible TMI vs insight to Chezitwo than Rels. He agrees with Rels that I am not mafia. He doesn't really think I'm one all, but wants to start a train on me for policy reasons. It is a good policy, I'm a total scumbag for not doing anything, although my Damdred townread was great.

Thing is, Chezitwo sounds like someone who knows what he is doing. His posts are readable and concise and I have an easy time following his train of thought in general.

So yeah, he fully admits to pressure voting me. I think his reaction and followup today will reveal much more about him than

The only thing that gives me pause is that for someone who is good enough to realize that I am much more likely to do this as town than mafia, it feels weird that he made this post:

On June 20 2017 07:40 Chezitwo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!

I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.

I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.

Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent.

So, are you claiming it is normal for marv to completely vanish from TL due to rolling mafia? Because if you are not you don't have a leg to stand on.


You see, if he is good enough and knows me and TL meta well enough to realize I don't do what I'm doing this game as scum, it's weird that he doesn't know that marv tends to go a bit mad when rolling mafia.

I don't know. It's weak and I'm not sure he deserves to be lynched, it's not a bad reason for voting me. I think I'll give his vote 7/10
Computer says mafia
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 23 2017 15:02 GMT
#5155
i think i have an idea of who chezitwo is. not 100% sure though.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 23 2017 15:03 GMT
#5156
On June 23 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2017 23:44 Skynx wrote:
On June 23 2017 21:32 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 23 2017 21:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
at this point I think Eversince is basically confirmed scum by the way. She's not there, not modkilled, no contribution, nothing at all, and what a coincidence, all while nobody talks about her.

I realize people are after Palmar? Why?

oh and ##vote Skynx

Says ES is confirmed mafia.
Votes skynx.

this guy is scum bro..


Reasons?

He just fits the mafia agenda I noticed on him since the start. He gives me the feeling that he's never about scumhunting. Cases he produced in D1 and last night can only be named 'cases' cuz he's misleading everything that can be read from the quotes. He's like CNN basically, just alternates facts trying so hard to scumread someone. He posts walls of texts so it looks like he knows what he's talking about i guess.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 23 2017 15:04 GMT
#5157
Ok I can't make sense of SL's crumbs/reads.

FF/Chez town is general consensus. That's fine and all, I already read both of them town anyway.
Problem that I'm having here is SL's read on TW was 100% confirmed town.
But SL didn't check FF/Chez. SL visited TW N1, Chez N2.
SL also was very sure Marv's slot is mafia. Never gave this any other chance. Which is why if he got a return of different TW is the town and Chez is the scum. I don't know why he implied FF got included in that at all. Not sure why he would lie about his checks as town. And if TW/Chez came back as same I have a hard time putting TW as town.

I visited Rels N3. He was a total shut in.

Before it gets mentioned, I obviously have no reason to claim right now as mafia. But town needs the info because everyone seems to be having just about as much trouble as I am. I'm obviously not much use right now other than being lynch bait on everyone's mind. So let's kill two birds with one stone.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 23 2017 15:06 GMT
#5158
On June 24 2017 00:04 Eversince wrote:
Ok I can't make sense of SL's crumbs/reads.

FF/Chez town is general consensus. That's fine and all, I already read both of them town anyway.
Problem that I'm having here is SL's read on TW was 100% confirmed town.
But SL didn't check FF/Chez. SL visited TW N1, Chez N2.
SL also was very sure Marv's slot is mafia. Never gave this any other chance. Which is why if he got a return of different TW is the town and Chez is the scum. I don't know why he implied FF got included in that at all. Not sure why he would lie about his checks as town. And if TW/Chez came back as same I have a hard time putting TW as town.

I visited Rels N3. He was a total shut in.

Before it gets mentioned, I obviously have no reason to claim right now as mafia. But town needs the info because everyone seems to be having just about as much trouble as I am. I'm obviously not much use right now other than being lynch bait on everyone's mind. So let's kill two birds with one stone.

so you are claiming tracker?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 23 2017 15:06 GMT
#5159
On June 24 2017 00:06 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2017 00:04 Eversince wrote:
Ok I can't make sense of SL's crumbs/reads.

FF/Chez town is general consensus. That's fine and all, I already read both of them town anyway.
Problem that I'm having here is SL's read on TW was 100% confirmed town.
But SL didn't check FF/Chez. SL visited TW N1, Chez N2.
SL also was very sure Marv's slot is mafia. Never gave this any other chance. Which is why if he got a return of different TW is the town and Chez is the scum. I don't know why he implied FF got included in that at all. Not sure why he would lie about his checks as town. And if TW/Chez came back as same I have a hard time putting TW as town.

I visited Rels N3. He was a total shut in.

Before it gets mentioned, I obviously have no reason to claim right now as mafia. But town needs the info because everyone seems to be having just about as much trouble as I am. I'm obviously not much use right now other than being lynch bait on everyone's mind. So let's kill two birds with one stone.

so you are claiming tracker?



Yes.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 23 2017 15:07 GMT
#5160
On June 24 2017 00:04 Eversince wrote:
Ok I can't make sense of SL's crumbs/reads.

FF/Chez town is general consensus. That's fine and all, I already read both of them town anyway.
Problem that I'm having here is SL's read on TW was 100% confirmed town.
But SL didn't check FF/Chez. SL visited TW N1, Chez N2.
SL also was very sure Marv's slot is mafia. Never gave this any other chance. Which is why if he got a return of different TW is the town and Chez is the scum. I don't know why he implied FF got included in that at all. Not sure why he would lie about his checks as town. And if TW/Chez came back as same I have a hard time putting TW as town.

I visited Rels N3. He was a total shut in.

Before it gets mentioned, I obviously have no reason to claim right now as mafia. But town needs the info because everyone seems to be having just about as much trouble as I am. I'm obviously not much use right now other than being lynch bait on everyone's mind. So let's kill two birds with one stone.

I'm pretty sure tracker cannot check same guy on consecutive nights otherwise it would be pretty op.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
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