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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 21 2017 04:40 GMT
#3801
Are you getting anything out of these questions?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 21 2017 04:43 GMT
#3802
Every question seems like a loaded gotcha question rather than something that could possibly help you figure out my alignment.

If you're trying to find some inconsistency so that you will look better after voting me, you're just going to look worse after I flip.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 21 2017 04:50 GMT
#3803
Not really, I'm just trying to fit the vast chasms in your filter with whatever your actual thoughts were at the time. Then I take that and weigh out if I believe you or not. Not surprisingly your total disinterest in actually talking to me tells me you'll just say whatever because you either deemed me worthless ally if your town, or an easier target for your mates to paint later.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 21 2017 04:57 GMT
#3804
I don't care whether you're a worthless ally or w/e. I just don't particularly like the questions. The reason that I never said anything further about Annul vs Xatalos is because I haven't seen people pressing me for to elaborate on what I had said earlier. If I had a lot more to say about that I would have said it during the lynch.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
June 21 2017 05:51 GMT
#3805
Vote Count - Day 3


Grackaroni (5): ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Chezitwo, beentheredonethat, VayneAuthority
sicklucker (3): disformation, Palmar, Grackaroni
Rels (2): sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (1): Rels
Skynx (1): Palmar, Skynx
ruXxar (0): Blazinghand
Palmar (0): disformation
beentheredonethat (0): disformation

Not voted (3): Tumblewood, Eversince, Blazinghand

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Grackaroni out of her whiskey bar.
Day 3 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 21 2017 06:29 GMT
#3806
i was just about to come back with a sick case on grack + Show Spoiler +
that may or may not have been a rehash of disfo's case
but grack's last page is making me feel he's actually town
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 21 2017 06:31 GMT
#3807
On June 21 2017 13:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Every question seems like a loaded gotcha question rather than something that could possibly help you figure out my alignment.

If you're trying to find some inconsistency so that you will look better after voting me, you're just going to look worse after I flip.

specifically this post is very relatable and something i've never seen scum try to fake. of course they might be able to but i don't think it's the kind of thing scum thinks of organically
good times for all
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 21 2017 06:35 GMT
#3808
On June 21 2017 15:31 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 13:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Every question seems like a loaded gotcha question rather than something that could possibly help you figure out my alignment.

If you're trying to find some inconsistency so that you will look better after voting me, you're just going to look worse after I flip.

specifically this post is very relatable and something i've never seen scum try to fake. of course they might be able to but i don't think it's the kind of thing scum thinks of organically


psst, It was Rux's case and he already did.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 21 2017 06:36 GMT
#3809
Just sayin'
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 21 2017 06:39 GMT
#3810
Specifically he goes from Votes on Annul for Koshi tunnel.
Changes that to include Rux tunnel. Koshi had posted 10 pg filter lala.

He's also now scum reading Disfo in the exact same fashion. EoD read says Disfo is mafia despite the fact Disfo has a ton of post since then but he's not going to read them. Using Grack's own logic we should lynch him just for that.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 21 2017 06:43 GMT
#3811
i think i'm giving that way too much weight actually. because either grack is scum, fefe is scum, i know even less than i thought i knew, or the annul wagon is pure sans xatalos. and the last one i don't believe for a second.
gonna filter fefe and weigh the possibilities
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 21 2017 06:45 GMT
#3812
On June 21 2017 15:39 Eversince wrote:
Specifically he goes from Votes on Annul for Koshi tunnel.
Changes that to include Rux tunnel. Koshi had posted 10 pg filter lala.

He's also now scum reading Disfo in the exact same fashion. EoD read says Disfo is mafia despite the fact Disfo has a ton of post since then but he's not going to read them. Using Grack's own logic we should lynch him just for that.

oh hey
i have not read enough of this game for that to make sense. what does Votes on Annul for Koshi tunnel mean?
good times for all
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 21 2017 06:46 GMT
#3813
I called the Xata wagon very likely pure at the start of D2. People should stop scum reading me already T.T The only one not flipped that I even have a ? on is Skynx. And it's been that way for a long while now.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 21 2017 06:53 GMT
#3814
On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.

i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas.

Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter.

It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game.

I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great.

On June 16 2017 07:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Xatalos was pretty meh. I legitimately don't think he has been any more meh than disfo. The one scum game I remember from him he played a very aggressive style.

On June 16 2017 07:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Holy flare seems like a very good vote. He's being ridiculously over the top trying to push this SL lynch.

I haven't liked either of his Vivax/Koshi pushes. And he dragged the Vivax one out for the hell of it.


Then he votes Annul. At least Annul is reading Koshi's filter, which he acknowledges by wondering if it's Annul's meta to do so, which if it was would make him townier in his mind (I assume) So he voted on a tunneled/meta read. Town is way more likely to tunnel in my experience. Because you can only be adamantly wrong on your positions for so long before the rest of the town thinks your scum.

Xata's filter looks meh. Disfo is worse but still a dirty filter is better than a tunneled/meta read? Backs down from Xata because it doesn't fit his mafia play style I guess.

HF is his only hard scum read and you barely get a sentence more about him the rest of the time HF is alive.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 21 2017 06:54 GMT
#3815
On June 21 2017 15:39 Eversince wrote:
Specifically he goes from Votes on Annul for Koshi tunnel.
Changes that to include Rux tunnel. Koshi had posted 10 pg filter lala.

He's also now scum reading Disfo in the exact same fashion. EoD read says Disfo is mafia despite the fact Disfo has a ton of post since then but he's not going to read them. Using Grack's own logic we should lynch him just for that.

Disfo having a super long filter was a mitigating factor.

You see how I'm taking things into account, and what not.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 21 2017 06:54 GMT
#3816
what i'm thinking is — this is subjective, but the annul wagon was shit. shit wagons form of course but usually they stay limited to tunneled/bad players. but for annul to die despite not having an amazing case on him (or her? idk) and not being a complete afk i think there has to be scum involved. and fefe is the only early voter i think at all is scum, but there was little actual pushing of anything from fefe himself. and rels had a legit push but was kinda late and otherwise has a super townie filter. so that just leaves grack, as the tying vote.
tl;dr — like ??? it's either grack or fefe or nothing makes sense. but already nothing makes sense
good times for all
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 21 2017 06:57 GMT
#3817
Tumble do you still dislike Rayn?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
June 21 2017 07:01 GMT
#3818
On June 21 2017 15:54 Tumblewood wrote:
what i'm thinking is — this is subjective, but the annul wagon was shit. shit wagons form of course but usually they stay limited to tunneled/bad players. but for annul to die despite not having an amazing case on him (or her? idk) and not being a complete afk i think there has to be scum involved. and fefe is the only early voter i think at all is scum, but there was little actual pushing of anything from fefe himself. and rels had a legit push but was kinda late and otherwise has a super townie filter. so that just leaves grack, as the tying vote.
tl;dr — like ??? it's either grack or fefe or nothing makes sense. but already nothing makes sense


You do realize that if you sit on Xata being the only mafia on Annul both Xata's and Annul's trains where almost entirely town driven. Which puts all the other scum as off wagon/ modkills right?

Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 21 2017 07:02 GMT
#3819
On June 21 2017 16:01 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 15:54 Tumblewood wrote:
what i'm thinking is — this is subjective, but the annul wagon was shit. shit wagons form of course but usually they stay limited to tunneled/bad players. but for annul to die despite not having an amazing case on him (or her? idk) and not being a complete afk i think there has to be scum involved. and fefe is the only early voter i think at all is scum, but there was little actual pushing of anything from fefe himself. and rels had a legit push but was kinda late and otherwise has a super townie filter. so that just leaves grack, as the tying vote.
tl;dr — like ??? it's either grack or fefe or nothing makes sense. but already nothing makes sense


You do realize that if you sit on Xata being the only mafia on Annul both Xata's and Annul's trains where almost entirely town driven. Which puts all the other scum as off wagon/ modkills right?


yeah. i said that i don't think that's the case. no way that annul wagon is pure
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 21 2017 07:03 GMT
#3820
On June 21 2017 15:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Tumble do you still dislike Rayn?

tbh i've seen like 10 posts from him since i said i disliked him. not particularly bad posts, mind you. how about i filter him now and then telll you
good times for all
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