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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 21:09 GMT
#3621
On June 21 2017 03:11 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 21:23 Rels wrote:
SL / BH
rayn / ruxxar / Skynx
Palmar / Chezitwo / VA
ES / FF / Tumble / Grack
BTDT / disfo

That makes me feel good. This makes sense.


So there are 5 scumreads here, lets see the reasonings behind them.

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 21:20 Rels wrote:
OK I'm done with my free time. Let's get a wagon starting on sicklucker.
##Vote sicklucker

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 20:54 Rels wrote:
sicklucker being this motivated for a D1 lynch is pretty weird. + he didn't react the way I would expect him to HF pushing him. Remained strangely calm and collected for him while still trying to get annul lynched. Usually that's where he becomes super townie, by having sprayed of posts that are strange and genius at the same time. Didn't happened there. Didn't happen everywhere in his filter.
On June 16 2017 07:58 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
just realise that sicklucker just said annul has towny sounding posts just now and has absolutely no real reason to scum read annul but is voting him over xata who he doesn't even realise doesn't scum read rayn


i said very slightly convincing plz...

And HF is killed N1 despite being a likely doc protect.
+ it might be pretty ironic for me to say that against him. But at EOD1 I doubted my vote hardcore because of some annul posts and almsot switched to Xata. SL might be the best player at reading those situations, but he didn't switch, and didn't even show it made him think. Like, I would have expected him to play at least like he described I did:
On June 16 2017 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
On June 16 2017 11:50 darthfoley wrote:
Rels also looks problematic given his enter the thread, procede to not vote then voted as the 5th on annul to tie it 5-5.

Not like I Rels out from a mile away


na rels is alright his logic was good he looked hesitant at the end too

+ after that I become one of his main target despite being one of his main townread for no reason other than "let's lynch in the annul wagon".

I think I wanna lynch SL. What's good too is that if he's town it should become obvious.

Meta read is irrelevant here, sl is just a troll he can do anything in D1 and wouldn't prolly be ai.
Second point is very ironic yeah i dunno whats your point here? If you're scumreading sl for that doesn't that makes you scum aswell???
You became everyone's main target because your filter was bad until today started basically. I can kinda see why he tr you earlier with your early list and everything.

Are you just bussing sl??

Nope, SL is not a random post generator D1. His play was anything but trolly EOD1.
On June 21 2017 03:11 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 08:11 Rels wrote:
BH didn't convince me. Spending all this time arguing with BTDT that went nowhere


Pretty much all about BH to make him his equally hardest scumread.

Yep. So ? You're missing some talk with disfo along the way of BH becoming a main scumread.
On June 21 2017 03:11 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 21:16 Rels wrote:
On June 17 2017 00:54 Skynx wrote:
Anyway for sure 1 scum between sl/fefe/rux. They all look equally bad dunno where to start.
Grack ninja vote is terrible. Eversince and Rels keep going down in ranks but i havent read their eod properly yet.
Other terrible votes off train are btdt and TW. Maybe Vivax aswell but i think he is town.
My plan is to also ignore HF and Palmar for a bit. They can be any alignment and so far pretty useless, too high level stuff for me.
VA can go suck a dick.
rayn is a mystery

I think tomorrow we can start the lynch with grack or any of first trio that started the train.

Updated townlist: disfo, df, damdred, Koshi, Vivax

Sl/ruxxar/tw/btdt/HF for postgame cred

Don't like the bolded though. An easy list to make the seems good but does nothing.
On June 20 2017 02:10 Skynx wrote:
Starting my annul train series with the first trio of sl/ruxxar/fefe

On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul


On June 16 2017 03:11 sicklucker wrote:
##vote annul i agree nice ninja ff you get a cheap townread. I just voted him after reading his filter

Got one boys and im super trendy because no one voted him yet so bonus points


On June 16 2017 03:12 ruXxar wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we're letting rucksack live we should kill annul


I'm down.


On June 16 2017 07:23 Rels wrote:
Don't see a town motivation on annul's vote on Xata then begging Xata to vote SL.
EITHER he prefers to lynch SL, then voting SL at that point puts him above him with 1 hour to see what happens
OR he prefers Xata, but why the begging to Xata so he votes SL then
Doesn't make any sense. Scum. Very likely


On June 16 2017 07:10 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 16 2017 06:58 annul wrote:
not at all. i am 1 switch away from majority. with the tiebreaker being what it is, i have no choice.

i WANT to vote for koshi/ruxxar since they are both mafia and either is a fine kill. but alas.

Annul seems like an ok lynch to me. I dislike that he doesn't waver at all in his Koshi read after 10 pages of filter.

It would be worthwhile to check if he tends to be very confident in his reads as town, because his are still based on things from the early game.

I'm on my phone on a train, and the internet is not great.


On June 16 2017 07:45 Eversince wrote:
This is going to make me look like garbage.

I haven't read anything since pg 35ish. Give me the the rough of what's happen between now and then for Xata, Annul, and SL.

I don't have time to fact check so my vote is entirely blind at this point.



Don't know where to begin...

On June 20 2017 02:24 Skynx wrote:
Everyone on the train had terrible reasons for voting annul. Makes it kinda harder to analyze, scum could be all there tbf. No one had an outstanding read on Xata either, mainly this and that. All 6 I'd lynch 1 by 1 except Ruxxar maybe as he's picking up the game.

On June 20 2017 02:30 Skynx wrote:
One thing I noted tho, when it was 6-5 to annul, Eversince came late into thread and claimed he's clueless with that post but he took another 12 mins to think about who to vote.
From a town point, if you're clueless, making the train 6-6 shouldn't really bother you but if you're scum you're literally offering your RB on a silver platter.

On June 20 2017 02:47 Skynx wrote:
I feel like few votes on him and Grack will start spilling all the beans.

And this looks like he started fabricating a vote analyze but didn't know how to do it. There is nothing there. Like the bolded above, he points that every reasonning is bad and he wants to lynch every player. No game solving there.

Not trying to push game forward and all.

I didn't understand anything from rayn interaction, I assume they are disagreeing on reads?
Ruxxar pretty much the same I don't get the sr but apparently you sr him from very early on, why not vote him when he had bunch of people on him??

There is a general lack of structure in these scumreads, he reads the game thats for sure but he just quotes posts and makes up bunch of reasons out of nowhere.
Lets look at the townreads,

I actually found the one about Grack
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 06:58 Rels wrote:
but Grack showing he remembered a random post from Palmar means it's likely he's either scum with marv, or not scum. Cause him remembering this random post means he read Palmar's filter (so he's town) or this post stucked to him 'cause marv is his partner. Most likely


This is just laughable, Grack has arguably the worst filter in the game along with ES and gets the easiest tr based on something so superficial.

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 20:27 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 19:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm on page 11. I have to admit that his N1 looks very good, especially asking the vig shot to be directed towards Xata. However, Xata doesn't die, so either vig didn't shoot or mafia has a protection mechanic or the roleblock got lucky? Hm, speculations. I'd say scum has a protective mechanic

looooool
never scum. BTDT is never ever scum. This is him solving the game right there. Speculating that the scumteam might have a prot role 'cause it fits with his belief that disfo is scum. I'm never ever voting him.
Sry BTDT but I'm not convinced at all by your case. Apart from point 1 which is what annoyed me about disfo at the beginning. But the rest is him being disfo. Doesn't make him scum.


More easy tr's, did you even read rest of btdt filter? He's not making 1 bit of sense since start of the game and above post can be very easily fabricated by mafia. I don't even think I'd come up with this one if i was really trying hard to tr btdt.

Nope, I don't believe above post can be very easily fabricated by mafia. Not making sense don't mean he's scum. You've played with him before.

On June 21 2017 03:11 Skynx wrote:
Concluding point:

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 21:00 Rels wrote:
Actually I just did.

On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:14 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:12 Tumblewood wrote:
so far i'm thinking ruxxar and disfo have basically dumbtelled by taking sl's claim at fake value. unless i am actually operating on way less irony than them

Don't think they are dumbtelled town for believing a claim.
They are more likely town if SL is mafia.

or what do you mean?

believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim

this is kinda townie

Nothing else stands out of to me as town or scum. The activity is bad ofc though. I want him to play more.


Mind you he makes a similar post about me but I'm still scum and TW is town????

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 21:08 Rels wrote:
On June 16 2017 03:39 Skynx wrote:
Koshi is not screaming and calling this town shit, he might be mafia actually

this is kinda townie. Weird thing to say to a town leader that is obviously not getting lynched


Like wtf? He just finds reasons in his universe that makes someone town or scum but apparently they don't apply to everyone in same value. It is most clearly seen in sl and simple tr on me and tw.
I just can't follow any of his reads, sorry.

##Vote: Rels

LOL you can't believe that. Yes there are two posts that point out a townie thing for Tumble and for you. THEN THERE ARE TWO OTHERS POSTS, ONE THAT TALK WITH DISFO ABOUT ANOTHER TOWNIE THING ON DISFO, ONE THAT DISCOVER SOMETHING BAD IN YOUR FILTER.
On tumble
Skynx
Makes no sense that you wouldn't check why could have changed my mind. You just found a change and used it to attack me.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
June 20 2017 21:11 GMT
#3622
Sicklucker is the biggest lynchbait right now.
Lynching him is not optimal town play.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 21:12 GMT
#3623
On June 21 2017 05:49 sicklucker wrote:
dont care afk. rels and grack gave to die to advance the game its standard vote logic stuff.

almost always mafia in a 5 mafia game

YES WAY TO GO. LETS AUTO LYNCH THE FOLLOWING 48 HOURS. THAT USUALLY WORKS WELL FOR TOWN
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
June 20 2017 21:12 GMT
#3624
On June 21 2017 06:11 ruXxar wrote:
Sicklucker is the biggest lynchbait right now.
Lynching him is not optimal town play.


It is true that more attention should be paid to people who have less thread presence.

self not included of course
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
June 20 2017 21:12 GMT
#3625
On June 21 2017 06:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 05:49 sicklucker wrote:
dont care afk. rels and grack gave to die to advance the game its standard vote logic stuff.

almost always mafia in a 5 mafia game

YES WAY TO GO. LETS AUTO LYNCH THE FOLLOWING 48 HOURS. THAT USUALLY WORKS WELL FOR TOWN


Whether or not it is good or not depends entirely on whether or not you and Grack are scum.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 21:13 GMT
#3626
On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
and ya I like how all the nk's point to me. no like I really fucking love it. Its quite obvious mafia want to lynch me.

Its evidence to how awful they are.

Maybe palmars mafia after all. He might be delusional enough to think he can get me lynched even tho I never get lynched when I dont want to be. He seems to have lost all respect for me.

Hes also the only one actually pushing me and the nk's suggest there trying to push me

How does the NK point at you ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 21:14 GMT
#3627
On June 21 2017 05:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 05:49 sicklucker wrote:
dont care afk. rels and grack gave to die to advance the game its standard vote logic stuff.

almost always mafia in a 5 mafia game


This is like honey to my ears.
SL going up on town list.

I wanna lynch so many people
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 20 2017 21:16 GMT
#3628
On June 21 2017 06:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 05:49 sicklucker wrote:
dont care afk. rels and grack gave to die to advance the game its standard vote logic stuff.

almost always mafia in a 5 mafia game

YES WAY TO GO. LETS AUTO LYNCH THE FOLLOWING 48 HOURS. THAT USUALLY WORKS WELL FOR TOWN


its about medium.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 20 2017 21:16 GMT
#3629
On June 21 2017 06:13 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
and ya I like how all the nk's point to me. no like I really fucking love it. Its quite obvious mafia want to lynch me.

Its evidence to how awful they are.

Maybe palmars mafia after all. He might be delusional enough to think he can get me lynched even tho I never get lynched when I dont want to be. He seems to have lost all respect for me.

Hes also the only one actually pushing me and the nk's suggest there trying to push me

How does the NK point at you ?


not reading the game are we?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 20 2017 21:17 GMT
#3630
I don't think Rels is mafia. Even though I found his reason not to lynch me very strange.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 21:17 GMT
#3631
On June 21 2017 06:16 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 06:13 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
and ya I like how all the nk's point to me. no like I really fucking love it. Its quite obvious mafia want to lynch me.

Its evidence to how awful they are.

Maybe palmars mafia after all. He might be delusional enough to think he can get me lynched even tho I never get lynched when I dont want to be. He seems to have lost all respect for me.

Hes also the only one actually pushing me and the nk's suggest there trying to push me

How does the NK point at you ?


not reading the game are we?

can you answer the fucking question
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 20 2017 21:17 GMT
#3632
Ya i honestly shouldnt post today. other people who never post should post
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
June 20 2017 21:18 GMT
#3633
On June 21 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 06:16 sicklucker wrote:
On June 21 2017 06:13 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
and ya I like how all the nk's point to me. no like I really fucking love it. Its quite obvious mafia want to lynch me.

Its evidence to how awful they are.

Maybe palmars mafia after all. He might be delusional enough to think he can get me lynched even tho I never get lynched when I dont want to be. He seems to have lost all respect for me.

Hes also the only one actually pushing me and the nk's suggest there trying to push me

How does the NK point at you ?


not reading the game are we?

can you answer the fucking question


nope . I dont negotiate with terrorists. at best you can convince me grack or ever is scum today.

Today is not about me its about you
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 21:19 GMT
#3634
SL I'm gonna do everything in my power to lynch you. You're not making sense. You're always tinfoiling at situations that look too good to be true. That makes no sense
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 21:20 GMT
#3635
Today is the day SL is dying
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
June 20 2017 21:20 GMT
#3636
On June 21 2017 06:18 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 06:17 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2017 06:16 sicklucker wrote:
On June 21 2017 06:13 Rels wrote:
On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
and ya I like how all the nk's point to me. no like I really fucking love it. Its quite obvious mafia want to lynch me.

Its evidence to how awful they are.

Maybe palmars mafia after all. He might be delusional enough to think he can get me lynched even tho I never get lynched when I dont want to be. He seems to have lost all respect for me.

Hes also the only one actually pushing me and the nk's suggest there trying to push me

How does the NK point at you ?


not reading the game are we?

can you answer the fucking question


nope . I dont negotiate with terrorists. at best you can convince me grack or ever is scum today.

Today is not about me its about you

RUH ROH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 20 2017 21:22 GMT
#3637
Dude don't fight back like he usually does
Dude claims NK points at him and don't explain
Dude don't have his weird and (sometimes) brillant theories about how all the town leaders are scum
Dude wanna auto lynch all the following days.
Fuck him. Especially if he's town.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
June 20 2017 21:27 GMT
#3638
SL has stated that his belief is that Mafia shot everyone who was townreading him in order to set him up to get lynched today or something similar.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 21:27 GMT
#3639
On June 21 2017 06:11 ruXxar wrote:
Sicklucker is the biggest lynchbait right now.
Lynching him is not optimal town play.

Bro, don't you know:
On June 21 2017 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
I never get lynched when I dont want to be

Clearly the numerous times SL got lynched happened only because he wanted it to.

So, if he is lynchbait we should endulge him, shouldn't we? His posts just now were all utter garbage.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 20 2017 21:28 GMT
#3640
eh i think i had a post about koshis defense on sl somewhere in my filter...
*shrugs*
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