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On June 16 2017 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
Most people here haven't played with Annul. He doesn't play much these days. I've played a game or two with him, and I know some guys like HolyFlare, Palmar, Rels, marv, Grack, Vivax, etc have been around enough they likely played with him as well. Anyone else claiming to have played with him or to know his meta is likely talking out of their ass.
Who talked about annul like he knew him?
This is your very first post and I forgot who you were referring to and it looks like you were going to have followup on that perosn.
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On June 18 2017 19:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
Most people here haven't played with Annul. He doesn't play much these days. I've played a game or two with him, and I know some guys like HolyFlare, Palmar, Rels, marv, Grack, Vivax, etc have been around enough they likely played with him as well. Anyone else claiming to have played with him or to know his meta is likely talking out of their ass. Who talked about annul like he knew him? This is your very first post and I forgot who you were referring to and it looks like you were going to have followup on that perosn.
it was xata.
as i pointed out a few times
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On June 18 2017 17:25 disformation wrote:
and i think ruxxar is trolling/Baiting reactions hard
I was so god damn bored out of my mind I just wanted something to happen.
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Of course I never reconsidered on xata.
I just wanted to see if anyone would even attempt to save their xata buddy if it apparead i had doubts...
I mean, how stupid would you be to post the shit that I posted LOL?
I apologize to the new people like chezi and blazinghand who haven't followed the thread, but you fell right into it.
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On June 18 2017 19:53 ruXxar wrote:
Of course I never reconsidered on xata.
I just wanted to see if anyone would even attempt to save their xata buddy if it apparead i had doubts...
I mean, how stupid would you be to post the shit that I posted LOL?
I apologize to the new people like chezi and blazinghand who haven't followed the thread, but you fell right into it.
And? What did you conclude?
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On June 18 2017 19:56 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 19:53 ruXxar wrote:
Of course I never reconsidered on xata.
I just wanted to see if anyone would even attempt to save their xata buddy if it apparead i had doubts...
I mean, how stupid would you be to post the shit that I posted LOL?
I apologize to the new people like chezi and blazinghand who haven't followed the thread, but you fell right into it. And? What did you conclude?
That btdt either is totally clueless and not following the game.
Or he's playing dumb and is mafia.
Im leaning toward mafia.
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I like chezinu and blazing hands responses.
That yes, you need to consider the circumstance of the claim, and not simply take it at face value.
I forgive their belief of my little act, and don't see anything scummy in the way they reacted.
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I could still lynch SL.
That guy is pissing me off.
Even if he's town I want to lynch him for refusing to cooperate.
Either he has a really good reason to appear mafia, or he's mafia or he doesn't know/want to play this game as town.
I don't like to assume people are idiots, so there's that.
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On June 18 2017 20:03 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 19:56 Vivax wrote:On June 18 2017 19:53 ruXxar wrote:
Of course I never reconsidered on xata.
I just wanted to see if anyone would even attempt to save their xata buddy if it apparead i had doubts...
I mean, how stupid would you be to post the shit that I posted LOL?
I apologize to the new people like chezi and blazinghand who haven't followed the thread, but you fell right into it. And? What did you conclude? That btdt either is totally clueless and not following the game. Or he's playing dumb and is mafia. Im leaning toward mafia.
What's the benefit of his play as mafia?
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On June 14 2017 16:46 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 16:35 Koshi wrote:On June 14 2017 13:40 Xatalos wrote:On June 14 2017 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
This deadline is nice for me.
##vote koshi :/ This emoticon is made by mafia over town 9/10 times. It is proven. I concede :/
=D
unfortunately i dont think xata's filter spews ppl town.
he had a lot of scum leans.
only solid tr is fefe.
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well. fefe and hf.
but basically that are his reads.
he made sure to not give us anything today.
On June 16 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them). 1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh). 2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM). 3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town. 4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him. 4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense. 5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched. 6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased  Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post: Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101. Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel? ...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite. That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either. 7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ??? Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time. So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall.
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On June 18 2017 20:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 20:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 18 2017 19:56 Vivax wrote:On June 18 2017 19:53 ruXxar wrote:
Of course I never reconsidered on xata.
I just wanted to see if anyone would even attempt to save their xata buddy if it apparead i had doubts...
I mean, how stupid would you be to post the shit that I posted LOL?
I apologize to the new people like chezi and blazinghand who haven't followed the thread, but you fell right into it. And? What did you conclude? That btdt either is totally clueless and not following the game. Or he's playing dumb and is mafia. Im leaning toward mafia. What's the benefit of his play as mafia?
That he wants to save xatalos.
He only started that fight after I casted doubt in the vote on xatalos.
It's not a strong connection, but its there.
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On June 18 2017 20:23 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 20:18 Vivax wrote:On June 18 2017 20:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 18 2017 19:56 Vivax wrote:On June 18 2017 19:53 ruXxar wrote:
Of course I never reconsidered on xata.
I just wanted to see if anyone would even attempt to save their xata buddy if it apparead i had doubts...
I mean, how stupid would you be to post the shit that I posted LOL?
I apologize to the new people like chezi and blazinghand who haven't followed the thread, but you fell right into it. And? What did you conclude? That btdt either is totally clueless and not following the game. Or he's playing dumb and is mafia. Im leaning toward mafia. What's the benefit of his play as mafia? That he wants to save xatalos. He only started that fight after I casted doubt in the vote on xatalos. It's not a strong connection, but its there.
Does Palmar also want to save Xatalos?
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On June 18 2017 20:23 disformation wrote:well. fefe and hf. but basically that are his reads. he made sure to not give us anything today. Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them). 1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh). 2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM). 3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town. 4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him. 4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense. 5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched. 6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post: On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101. Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel? ...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite. That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either. 7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ??? Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time. So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall.
I did give you guys one scum on a silver platter, but nobody wanted to take it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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On June 18 2017 20:23 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 20:18 Vivax wrote:On June 18 2017 20:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 18 2017 19:56 Vivax wrote:On June 18 2017 19:53 ruXxar wrote:
Of course I never reconsidered on xata.
I just wanted to see if anyone would even attempt to save their xata buddy if it apparead i had doubts...
I mean, how stupid would you be to post the shit that I posted LOL?
I apologize to the new people like chezi and blazinghand who haven't followed the thread, but you fell right into it. And? What did you conclude? That btdt either is totally clueless and not following the game. Or he's playing dumb and is mafia. Im leaning toward mafia. What's the benefit of his play as mafia? That he wants to save xatalos. He only started that fight after I casted doubt in the vote on xatalos. It's not a strong connection, but its there.
You might say that it's too obvious, too futile, but that just leads down to WIFOM land.
I remember a game I played with HF as mafia, where even though it was obvious our mafia teammate was going to get lynched, we fought tooth and nail to try and get him off the hook.
You see, the benefit mafia gets here is twofold:
1) You at least try to save your team mate, so you have to give it a shot.
2) You buy town cred for looking like stupid down.
The genius behind point number 2 is what I just mentioned above, in that people like to assume that other people are smart.
Mafia wouldnt put their neck out there for a guaranteed lynch. And in this case it plays to his advantage truly.
There's one counter point that goes in btdt's favor, and while I don't like to assume people are clueless, I have to bring up the finaly vote tally of day 1:
On June 16 2017 08:02 Half the Sky wrote:Final Vote Count - Day 1 annul (7): sicklucker, ruXxar, Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Rels, Grackaroni, Eversince Xatalos (6): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx, disformation, annul, Holyflare sicklucker (2): Palmar, Holyflare, Vivax Koshi (1): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivaxmarvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood Skynx (1): VayneAuthority ruXxar (0): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax, annulTumblewood (0): ruXxarPalmar (0): sickluckerraynpelikoneet (0): Xatalos, sicklucker, TumblewoodPalmar (0): Koshi, Skynxbeentheredonethat (0): KoshiEversince (0): sickluckerNot voted (4): Damdred, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity Half the Sky is getting ready to throw annul out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
You see how btdt ended with his vote on koshi.
This points towards him just actually being afk and not reading the game.
I find this to be slightly more town inclined and in line with the appearance of not reading the game, and not actually understanding the circumstances of xata's cop claim.
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On June 18 2017 20:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2017 20:23 ruXxar wrote:On June 18 2017 20:18 Vivax wrote:On June 18 2017 20:03 ruXxar wrote:On June 18 2017 19:56 Vivax wrote:On June 18 2017 19:53 ruXxar wrote:
Of course I never reconsidered on xata.
I just wanted to see if anyone would even attempt to save their xata buddy if it apparead i had doubts...
I mean, how stupid would you be to post the shit that I posted LOL?
I apologize to the new people like chezi and blazinghand who haven't followed the thread, but you fell right into it. And? What did you conclude? That btdt either is totally clueless and not following the game. Or he's playing dumb and is mafia. Im leaning toward mafia. What's the benefit of his play as mafia? That he wants to save xatalos. He only started that fight after I casted doubt in the vote on xatalos. It's not a strong connection, but its there. Does Palmar also want to save Xatalos?
How would I know, he hasn't said anything.
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DO NOT TALK ABOUT ONGOING GAMES. JUST STOP! MODKILLS FOR ANY MENTION OF A ONGOING GAME AFTER THIS POINT!
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I must admit I haven't done a thorough analysis on ES.
I will withhold my judgement on her until I've read her filter.
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On June 18 2017 20:46 ruXxar wrote:
I must admit I haven't done a thorough analysis on ES.
I will withhold my judgement on her until I've read her filter.
That's the point.
Everything anyone says today about Xatalos is Wifom.
No matter if btdt, or Eversince.
And you are trying to read them both for wifom.
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On June 18 2017 10:02 sicklucker wrote:
well if I were the vigi i wouldnt know that fool. i could think mafia has 1kp
What is this quote supposed to mean?
The rules on KP is pretty clear.
On May 28 2017 01:38 Onegu wrote:Game Mechanics and Setup 1 There are no notifications unless absolutely necessary. 2 There are no alignment changing mechanics. 3 A mafia powerrole may carry KP and use their ability on someone else simultaneously. 4 Roleblockers resolve first and simultaneously. Any applicable secondary abilities will be stopped. 5 The veteran, should the role exist, is roleblockable. 6 Vigilante bullets, if present, are not refundable if roleblocked or shot into protection. 7 The scumteam must shoot each night. Mafia KP = 2kp N1 + N2, 1kp thereafter - KP must be delivered by individuals and subject to RB/tracking rules. Order of OperationsRoleblocks Protection KP Checks Other
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