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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:34 GMT
#438
On March 18 2017 01:32 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 18 2017 01:26 disformation wrote:

I was trying to see if I could figure out why damdred was scumread xatalos, because I didnt get that damdred was joke voting xatalos and that was the best thing i could come up with. so i was expecting something good from damdred and was disappointed when damdred came up with something even worse than what i had.

I am confused. This doesn't really answer my question. What do you mean by the "best thing i could come up with"?

as I said I was trying to figure out why damdred could be scumreading xatalos.
the only thing that xatalos had was his reaction to the setup stuff from eden.
so i was like "well what could be scummy in that?"
thats what i came up with after following that line of thought.


But how did my posts, which had no mention of Eden's alignment, cause you to describe it as me attributing alignments to Eden....?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:36 GMT
#442
If I'm being pessimistic here, then it could have been like so:

"Hey, Xata is getting scumread... how could I help it along?"
"Uh, there's nothing"
"Let's twist the facts in my favor a bit to make him look worse(?)"
"Oh, it was a joke... RIP me"
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:39 GMT
#444
Ohhh. So you were talking about what Damdred might have been thinking of me?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:39 GMT
#445
Lol
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:40 GMT
#448
Wait. That still doesn't make sense
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:42 GMT
#451
Like something about Eden baiting with setup talk and xata instantly being like "so to make it official: you are either bsing or are one of these blue roles?"

How could Damdred possibly think that when there was nothing related do that in the thread
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:43 GMT
#453
Kill me.... lol
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:47 GMT
#457
Hmmmm. But how did you even come up with the example of Damdred attributing non-existent actions to me?

Oh well. Maybe we should just ignore this soon. I'm rapidly losing confidence that it's anything related to your alignment.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:51 GMT
#461
Maybe... But why pull his reasoning for Damdred's vote out of non-existent content when there was plenty of content I had already posted -.-

In any case unvote. It makes more sense now that it was all about explaining Damdred's possible motivations rather than "throwing dirt" at me to support a wagon.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 16:56 GMT
#463
I'll refresh myself from the brainfuck for a while. I'll be back later tonight.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 18:33 GMT
#519
On March 17 2017 10:18 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 10:06 darthfoley wrote:
Oh! Also don't like Malongo

I think we are in the same team tbh. You quote still sucks anyways.

My general read is pretty weak at this point. I don´t like how fast Damdred and disformation are piling up ealry. I would rather find a third way because we may be making mafia life too easy.

So I propose lynching Ryan. Not that I find him specially scummy but I don´t want to play with a troll for a second time.

##ryanpelikoneet

Everything else es just nonsense for me at this point.


rayn, you said that your suspicion of Malongo was based on this post and how he did these....

- There is no reason to call Darthfoley town just because he is calling Malongo mafia
- There is no reason to assume disformation and Damdred are town just because there are people voting for them

1) The way I read it, Malongo said that foley was town DESPITE calling him scum, not the other way around. How did you come to that conclusion? How does that even make sense?

2) Malongo didn't even say that they're town, just that he'd prefer to get alternative voting action?

All in all, it's just so.... weak. Almost as weak as the reads on Damdred/me. Is this really the best you got to push with apparent confidence?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 18:38 GMT
#521
foley's thing on Malongo was actually much better than rayn's...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 18:38 GMT
#522
Even if it wasn't especially convincing either.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 18:45 GMT
#523
On March 18 2017 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean this:
Show nested quote +
I don't like this post much. It basically feels like forced/fake aggro. Pushing a pool of players with any reason, no matter how (in)significant, just to push them.

IS completely untrue unless he explains how i am doing wht he says i am.


It just reminded me of how you started a couple of your scumgames... With weakly reasoned, but (fake) confident pushes on several players. As town you've tended to be more calm and objective (until you see red and totally flip until you get your target lynched... lol).

If I had to say, you'd lean more on the scum side of your meta, especially that big early post. For now I'll wait and see.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 18:46 GMT
#525
(the important part was the "weakly reasoned" - as I explained, I think all of your points were essentially so weak compared to the read confidence you concluded)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 18:49 GMT
#528
On March 18 2017 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 03:33 Xatalos wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:18 Malongo wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:06 darthfoley wrote:
Oh! Also don't like Malongo

I think we are in the same team tbh. You quote still sucks anyways.

My general read is pretty weak at this point. I don´t like how fast Damdred and disformation are piling up ealry. I would rather find a third way because we may be making mafia life too easy.

So I propose lynching Ryan. Not that I find him specially scummy but I don´t want to play with a troll for a second time.

##ryanpelikoneet

Everything else es just nonsense for me at this point.


rayn, you said that your suspicion of Malongo was based on this post and how he did these....

- There is no reason to call Darthfoley town just because he is calling Malongo mafia
- There is no reason to assume disformation and Damdred are town just because there are people voting for them

1) The way I read it, Malongo said that foley was town DESPITE calling him scum, not the other way around. How did you come to that conclusion? How does that even make sense?

2) Malongo didn't even say that they're town, just that he'd prefer to get alternative voting action?

All in all, it's just so.... weak. Almost as weak as the reads on Damdred/me. Is this really the best you got to push with apparent confidence?
youre twisting the obvious conclusion here.


Hm, you mean that he's scum and teamed with disfo/Damdred and pocketing foley or something? Maybe that's possible, but as well it could be that he just townread foley from his earlier posts and doesn't want to focus only on 2 players?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 18:53 GMT
#532
On March 18 2017 03:49 Damdred wrote:
Idk what to do with rayn he's ignoring all of my posts but keeping the same conclusion.

For everyone else is what I'm saying making sense or am I just Looney?


Well, you're always scum anyway so it's the inevitable conclusion

(Seriously though, I have yet to understand rayn's fixation on you. Your early question certainly didn't make you scum like rayn said and you've participated/answered to different things decently enough IMO.)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 18:56 GMT
#534
Meh, Tumble doesn't seem so bad either after all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 18:58 GMT
#535
Well, it's also true that he hasn't really done anything. Just that his "complaint" post wasn't that bad like I thought before.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 19:01 GMT
#538
Yeah I think it was rayn who pointed out that it's not a bad thing to do to calm down too easy "town passes". Regardless of what rayn is, it made me rethink and yeah, it isn't necessarily scum motivated. At first I just thought it might be busywork / spreading distrust, but.. Maybe not.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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