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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 31 2017 21:06 GMT
#3436
On April 01 2017 06:01 disformation wrote:
its pretty hard to shoot yourself. not sure why you would shoot amg over damdy though.
guess for the wifom you just posted?


Sure, I guess
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 31 2017 21:08 GMT
#3438
Although I'd certainly have shot Damdred as scum. He's always generally suspicious of me, and seems to be undecided here as well. In addition he's objectively pretty unlikely scum based on D1 votes.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 31 2017 21:10 GMT
#3439
On April 01 2017 06:08 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2017 06:05 Xatalos wrote:
On April 01 2017 03:51 disformation wrote:
d2 votes indicate xata making perfect sense as scum.


I was in very real danger of being lynched though. I certainly wouldn't allow my scumteam to force a me vs Eden situation on D2, especially since Eden was barely even playing and a Goon. I would have most likely totally bussed Eden with the whole team or maybe, maybe tried to get a townie lynched.

both situations you describe dont make sense with me on the team.


I was talking about what I'd have done, not what you'd have done though.

And you did kind of do a similar thing. Bussed Eden, but entertained the option of voting me all the way until it was practically an impossible move to make.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 31 2017 21:34 GMT
#3441
Unlike you, I did actually vote for two scum during D2 (Eden and you)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 31 2017 22:35 GMT
#3446
Better to have clear, focused reasoning for an opinion than line after line of fluff like you
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 31 2017 22:36 GMT
#3447
Good night as well though. I wonder where Damdred disappeared to.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 01 2017 14:23 GMT
#3449
How did reading the things go?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 01 2017 21:57 GMT
#3457
On April 01 2017 23:23 Damdred wrote:
Xata what was the point in going after rayn so early d2 over Eden really?

Like ritoky does has a good case on eden, I have a ok case that stretches two days on eden. So why not look at Eden more oor lynch him before rayn?

Disf why are you always so hesitant to really do things on your own the whole game without being prodded really? Your votes are also really stagnant even though you are here eod with shenanigans going to happen.

And how was it a backstab koshi voting you? I hate that wording you used because backstab implies friend/same team instead of an unknown meh.

Super annoying I thought i would be dead, kinda implies that disf is scum cause angbwould of been stupid easy lylo for xata


Not sure if I remember my D2 thoughts completely anymore, but I think I was most concerned about rayn at D2 start. He's hard to catch as scum, and he had already shown behavior related to his scumplay (pushing several weak cases with (fake?) confidence through D1 etc.), so I was pretty alarmed. I guess objectively looking Eden was the worst, and definitely deserved to be lynched, but there was still a chance he could flip town and in that case a huge single wagon on Eden would have been a giant waste of time. That being the case, I thought rayn was the most deserving of being the second wagon - until he claimed. Then the second wagon switched to me and I felt that was pretty fine, actually, so I focused mostly on how people pushed me rather than thinking of a third wagon (pretty pointless to have more than two). Koshi's attitude to me was definitely the most out of place, and it should have dropped him lower in my reads, but there was also what AMG, rayn etc were doing so that split my attention in several directions. In the end, I didn't reap the full benefits of the flow of D2 (=Koshi practically scumclaiming by going hard after me to save Eden), but it was still an OK day all around.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 01 2017 23:58 GMT
#3462
On April 02 2017 07:21 Damdred wrote:
Also voting xata for clarity ^^. Teehee


I bet that caused some tables to be flipped in ObsQT roflmao

+ Show Spoiler +
Almost choked myself for a bit. But immediately went to check the actual voting thread since the vote didn't seem to match with your posts at all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:01 GMT
#3463
In any case..... I guess the game is over. I salute you, disfo, for putting up a nice fight today.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:04 GMT
#3464
On April 02 2017 07:24 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2017 06:57 Xatalos wrote:
On April 01 2017 23:23 Damdred wrote:
Xata what was the point in going after rayn so early d2 over Eden really?

Like ritoky does has a good case on eden, I have a ok case that stretches two days on eden. So why not look at Eden more oor lynch him before rayn?

Disf why are you always so hesitant to really do things on your own the whole game without being prodded really? Your votes are also really stagnant even though you are here eod with shenanigans going to happen.

And how was it a backstab koshi voting you? I hate that wording you used because backstab implies friend/same team instead of an unknown meh.

Super annoying I thought i would be dead, kinda implies that disf is scum cause angbwould of been stupid easy lylo for xata


Not sure if I remember my D2 thoughts completely anymore, but I think I was most concerned about rayn at D2 start. He's hard to catch as scum, and he had already shown behavior related to his scumplay (pushing several weak cases with (fake?) confidence through D1 etc.), so I was pretty alarmed. I guess objectively looking Eden was the worst, and definitely deserved to be lynched, but there was still a chance he could flip town and in that case a huge single wagon on Eden would have been a giant waste of time. That being the case, I thought rayn was the most deserving of being the second wagon - until he claimed. Then the second wagon switched to me and I felt that was pretty fine, actually, so I focused mostly on how people pushed me rather than thinking of a third wagon (pretty pointless to have more than two). Koshi's attitude to me was definitely the most out of place, and it should have dropped him lower in my reads, but there was also what AMG, rayn etc were doing so that split my attention in several directions. In the end, I didn't reap the full benefits of the flow of D2 (=Koshi practically scumclaiming by going hard after me to save Eden), but it was still an OK day all around.


Yeah I can see that.

Alsovi have a theory why rayn wasn't blocked n2 but really meh.


The theory being? disfo and Koshi being away or something? Not sure if they were around at that time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:07 GMT
#3465
Well, disfo was posting during N2. Maybe they tried to RB the Cop instead and hoped rayn would do something useless (since his reads were quite a bit off or something?).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:08 GMT
#3466
At least rayn seemed to have Koshi and disfo as lock town during N2....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:10 GMT
#3467
So maybe the idea would have been something like: he's not going to target us (disfo/Koshi) - he might even target the Cop - and a protective jailing no longer makes sense, so it would be safe to kill a townie poster anyway? Kind of makes sense I guess.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:11 GMT
#3468
And then rayn ended up jailing me.. rofl
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 00:12 GMT
#3469
Too bad. If he had made a ninja move and jailed disfo, the game would have been over (I assume disfo carried the KP since Koshi was roleblocking).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 17:16 GMT
#3475


Will be good to see the ObsQt and ScumQt.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 17:49 GMT
#3478
On April 03 2017 02:42 Damdred wrote:
Disf if your scum just tell me bro we can work this out so I can spite lynch xata today for past mistakes ^^.


Ouch. That would ruin my 10+ game record (I think?) of not being mislynched as town... At least I haven't been in a long, long time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 17:52 GMT
#3479
On April 03 2017 02:43 Damdred wrote:
Really do hope disf comes back though seriously kinda want to hhear what he has to say


Well, not sure what there is to be said at this point. Everything kind of fits with disfo being scum. Why rayn wasn't blocked (sort of makes sense since rayn was townreading disfo/Koshi), why I was pushed over Eden/disfo by Koshi (obviously to save his scummates) etc. etc.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 02 2017 18:46 GMT
#3486
Only disfo really benefits from AMG being dead.... Since he started pushing me last night, and Damdred would be possible to convince from his perspective. I would always shoot Damdred, and Damdred would probably always shoot me. AMG was set on lynching disfo after all, and I really doubt Damdred's death would have changed his mind in any way (since Damdred was widely townread and overall a solid kill). So from the perspective of either myself or Damdred, AMG is an idiotic kill - less so for Damdred, but still a pretty bad pick.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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