I just can't see town Koshi. Maybe, maybe if he like came to the thread 5min before deadline and went full YOLO from there... But he came back about 1 second before deadline, just ninjavoted Tumble dead and left the thread again. That's only explainable if he was lurking the thread all that time and waiting his chance to act.

So down goes Koshi.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 29 2017 18:44 GMT

#3383

Then we can think about disfo/AMG/Damdred. Tbh I'm not still 100% sure it's disfo, but everything kind of points to that from Koshi's actions to POE.

1) Koshi's actions - he went hard after AMG last day, kind of pushed Damdred too and only "stabbed" disfo without reasoning when it looked like disfo was doomed - but then he came back anyway and saved disfo when there was a chance - all I can think of is that disfo was the Roleblocker and was needed to deal with rayn last night - I guess we'll see about that after Koshi's flip

2) POE - kind of related to Koshi's actions, but Koshi makes by far the most sense as scum with disfo based on yesterday, and even before that, Damdred doesn't make much sense as scum with Eden

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 29 2017 18:47 GMT

#3384

So if I had to bet 1000$, I'd say the last scum is disfo ten times out of ten.

Otherwise maybe AMG, but... Last day was pretty odd if Koshi's master plan as scum with AMG was to simply push AMG with all his might, and almost succeeding, until rayn counter-pushed strongly away from AMG.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 29 2017 19:05 GMT

#3385

Also, if Koshi flips GF, then disfo is even more likely scum. If Koshi is RB, then a bit less likely.

(Because GF is really useless at this point whereas RB is/was crucial vs rayn)

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 29 2017 19:07 GMT

#3386

Although, naturally, the GF would still be useful vs rayn in the sense that he could carry the KP while RB blocks rayn. That way rayn can never block the KP.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 29 2017 21:58 GMT

#3388

On March 30 2017 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Just a super weird set of kills n1 with koshi in the team.

The calix kill seems to be she was suspicious of koshi+General townreads.

Also strange no block on rayn n2.

Ritoky did have disf in his scum list though.

Calif hard town xata.

Not to much to go on in that regard.

The thing I hate most about the game is I am going to have to read xata and disf filter tommorow.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 29 2017 21:59 GMT

#3389

Yeah, a somewhat weird game overall, but I'd be really surprised if it was anything but Koshi+disfo at this point.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 30 2017 13:00 GMT

#3392

Simply the best way to scumclaim

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 30 2017 16:21 GMT

#3395

Otherwise I might well consider the theory of disf being "framed" by Koshi, but... Hm. Both Damdred/AMG have basically been cleared by Eden/Koshi to a major extent already. Whereas disfo fits well with Koshi/Eden. So...

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 30 2017 21:49 GMT

#3399

Hm ok... So he was the RB after all. Makes it slightly possible that disfo could be town, but I still don't really see it...

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 04:11 GMT

#3402

Last will: ##Vote disformation

+ Show Spoiler +

If there's some dramatic change, then reconsider of course. So far disfo has only looked worse after Tumblr's flip though...!

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 04:15 GMT

#3403

On March 31 2017 06:56 Damdred wrote:
I just don't get the play ya know? Tumble wasn't living the game out and koshi would have a better shot winning than disf.

I guess disfo's flip would have given us an additional mislynch though, and (semi)cleared Tumble.. It would have been very difficult for Koshi to survive from there.

Not to mention that rayn could have possibly just RB'd him, blocking his KP..

And it's always psychologically more difficult to play "alone" as scum IMO

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 09:03 GMT

#3406

It'd be bad for scum no matter what Koshi did really. Maybe that's why Koshi/disfo have been so quiet afterwards. Town disfo should have done something of merit to win for the town at least, but there's been nothing...

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 12:20 GMT

#3408

If you are town, disfo, then please find the remaining scum. From my perspective you're the obvious choice, but if you actually are town, then you should be able to see a very different picture, and it could well make the difference between town win/loss.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 20:55 GMT

#3429

That's a weird kill... I was almost completely sure it was going to be me or, perhaps, Damdred.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 20:57 GMT

#3430

On the other hand, it makes perfect sense with disfo being the scum. Considering that AMG was going to auto-lynch disfo, and Damdred was being more unsure, and disfo apparently wants to lynch me...

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 20:57 GMT

#3431

Would have been pretty awkward to kill me after all that effort :D

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 21:00 GMT

#3432

The good news is that this basically clears everything up. It's 99.99% disfo now since Damdred was always the less likely scum out of AMG/Damdred.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 21:01 GMT

#3433

##vote disformation

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 31 2017 21:05 GMT

#3435

On April 01 2017 03:51 disformation wrote:
d2 votes indicate xata making perfect sense as scum.

I was in very real danger of being lynched though. I certainly wouldn't allow my scumteam to force a me vs Eden situation on D2, especially since Eden was barely even playing and a Goon. I would have most likely totally bussed Eden with the whole team or maybe, maybe tried to get a townie lynched.