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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:13 GMT
#3322
I hope you sent your roleblock though. Even if it's not likely to matter since they're both still alive.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:14 GMT
#3324
Would have been so good to get one today.. Then rayn could have with good odds blocked the last scum, or kind of "green-checked" too if we got RB..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:15 GMT
#3326
Well rayn I hope you post some sort of last will or something though. Doesn't really matter when during the night since you're the kill always anyway...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:16 GMT
#3330
+ Show Spoiler +
Or maybe post some retarded fake reads to make them reconsider killing you?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:18 GMT
#3331
On March 28 2017 07:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like one of Damdred and AMG is a fucking retard. Because scum always wins the vote if they don't vote with me and you. Fucking fuck what a joke.


Can't really disagree. I was pretty surprised when I saw they both went to Tumble suddenly, but I thought it was still fine. I didn't expect Koshi to ninja vote so boldly at the end. Should have thought about that in hindsight..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:25 GMT
#3334
POE kind of leaves me to think it just has to be Koshi+disfo. Although I guess AMG is remotely possible, but not very likely looking at the D3 vote flow (everyone contently voting AMG until rayn pushed against it). Koshi+disfo makes a lot of sense too looking at how Koshi "sacrificed" himself to save disfo like that with a last-second ninja vote.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:26 GMT
#3335
On March 28 2017 05:28 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2017 05:26 Xatalos wrote:
On March 28 2017 05:24 Koshi wrote:
On March 28 2017 05:23 Xatalos wrote:
So I can't very easily accept an Eden/Damdred team..

Can you believe AMG/Tumble team?


Maybe? Doesn't seem impossible I guess.

Go vote AMG then. Let rayn RB Damdred or Tumble right at night, and we go from there.


Looking at posts like these, it's a bit hard to believe it could be anyone but disfo >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:28 GMT
#3336
Unless Koshi played some really hard double-bussing with AMG all day. Not completely impossible I guess.... But a bit far-fetched.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:29 GMT
#3338
In any case, my last will is the same as rayn's: just lynch Koshi tomorrow and go from there looking at following NK's etc.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:30 GMT
#3339
On March 28 2017 07:29 Damdred wrote:
But what's the point of saccing koshi as a team he was more townread than disf and he would of gotten a bit of cred for that lynch.

And i mean tumble might of been next anyway?


Well I guess disfo might be the RB? Then it would make perfect sense. Otherwise rayn could roleblock without worries tonight, report his target beforehand, and either block scum KP (instant win) or "green-check" a player with a kill happening through the block (practically winning the game as well with that).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:32 GMT
#3341
Well Koshi voted at the very last second, so there wasn't much anyone could possibly do.

If you're willing to put in the effort, go through Koshi's filter? I'm sure there are some gems in there.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 27 2017 22:32 GMT
#3342
Gn now though!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 10:42 GMT
#3345
I guess my last will is that....

Koshi 99% scum (ninja mislynch..)
Disfo 70% scum (saved by ninja mislynch - RB?)
AMG 20% scum (attacked me along with Koshi on D2, but pretty hard to believe scum with Koshi after yesterday)
Damdred 10% scum (nothing is impossible? well, unlikely scum with Eden)

AMG and Damdred are as high as they are only because of how they played against town's best interests yesterday, letting scum control the lynch instead of conftown rayn. So that makes it slightly more likely there could be scum within AMG/Damdred. Even so, disfo is the most likely partner for Koshi, and probably RB since he risked it all to deal with rayn tonight.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 10:44 GMT
#3346
(I mean that wasn't really worth it for Koshi unless disfo is the RB. Since the RB is too important tonight vs rayn.)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 19:31 GMT
#3353
What, the night ended so early >.>
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 19:32 GMT
#3354
And just when I checked the game for the first time since morning too..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 28 2017 19:32 GMT
#3355
Anyways, lynch Koshi. I can't see how he could be town after those EOD actions.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 10:28 GMT
#3376
On March 29 2017 10:01 AMG wrote:
I think sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and these two are just scum.

In a world where disfo is town, Koshi could have just afk'd on Disfo like he said he was going to, we lynch disfo, then he gets to say "well i just followed confirmed town rayn onto this wagon, not my fault". And the only person that was completely sold on his scumness at that point was me. Rayn gets shot overnight, Koshi continues to dump shit on me over the next day, Xalatos is happy enough to lynch me tomorrow, or possibly tumble. Theres so much more room to win from there if disfo isnt scum with him.


Yeah, it just seems better to stay on disfo if disfo is town. Koshi still looks somewhat townie, Tumble is an easy mislynch in the future and everything just works out better. No need to do such a crazy risky play with town disfo..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 10:31 GMT
#3377
On March 29 2017 06:07 Damdred wrote:
Yeah only way to really get past today. But let's not just afk it ignore koshi I guess and search.

AMG, when the vote got so tight why didn't you go back to rayn? Or when he said he wasn't sswitching why did you stay?

Disformation and xata can you both explain your progression on your Eden read?


Me? Why not I guess. Not that I remember the details anymore, but I think he opened the game decently enough (with plausible-looking cases etc.), but then never really pursued them (or anything) and simply looked worse and worse towards the end of N1. At that point I was still more concerned about rayn, but after he claimed, I reread some things and thought that Eden/DF looked the worst out of all filters. And it was me vs Eden so obviously I would vote for Eden.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 29 2017 18:38 GMT
#3381
On March 30 2017 03:03 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2017 09:43 Damdred wrote:
It's going pretty well, wife is a bit moody and still has a small amount of resentment to me. Seth sleeps lots, lilian cries a lot. So all in all pretty happy.

I'm a game related more what worries me is that koshi does this to a town disformation to distract from partner xata /amg and gets a free win from association.

I'm not sit if the wifom in that regard is enough though. I just don't want people to afk vote and not explore all options in that regard.

Like I want @disformation to explain hiseden progression and what he thinks of the people left alive and why because his scum pool is basically small. And explain why it's then

aight thats a bit of a hard one.
going to assume koshi flips scum (otherwise it doesnt matter since game over).
i feel like koshi tried to push everyone in the thread.

damdy being with koshi would explain why koshi scum read damdy super scum but voted someone else over damdy. but then there would be the mega bus and damdy seems to be the only one still thinking about the game.

xata + koshi + eden would make little sense given how d2 went. more likely scum!koshi tried to get town!xata lynched to by scum!eden one more day.

so could scum!amg and scum!koshi try to push xata together? mayhaps. though amg didnt seem very interested to actually push.

so unless something really insane went down d2 i dont see it being xata.
there are some points that could fit with damdy + koshi, but then there is the eden thing. so not very likely.
then we have amg, with whom i still have the same problems with as yesterday. plus he annoyed me earlier.

so. when/if i find the time ill look at damdy/koshi and amgs filters again.
not reading xatas filter. that thing is an aberration.


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