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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:29 GMT
#190
Damdred is always scum anyway
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:31 GMT
#191
But yeah, the other D seems more promising.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:37 GMT
#194
I can see the "fearless read on Koshi for no real reason" coming from town though. Because scum like to throw random (light) townreads around to appear as they're doing something when they're really not... But falter when asked to explain any good reasons. That just doesn't really apply here since DeepB has explained well all his random assertions.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:46 GMT
#199
On March 17 2017 08:41 Calix wrote:
FWIW I feel like this entire discussion is pure so I cannot be arsed to contribute much until something new happens.

It's not really based on filter-diving or whatever. I just feel like everyone who is talking right now is posting without an agenda and is just saying what they have so far and is being reasonable and helping the town.

So imo we shouldn't lynch among Xat/ DD/ Koshi/ Blue today.

Does this sound really premature? Maybe but that's my impressions of the 'atmosphere' of the game so far so I'm pretty confident here. Don't feel like the chat is very mafia-influenced right now.

If this doesn't make sense then ask away. I feel like a hippie right now xD


No, that's mostly what I felt as well. Only disformation felt a bit out of place so far. Dunno about rayn yet since he only trolled for now.

Damdred is my eternal suspect, but at least I don't see any good reason for lynching him at this point. I'll let you know when I have one
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:47 GMT
#200
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.


Which ones?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:50 GMT
#204
He's making Murloc sounds I think... So roleplaying as a Murloc.

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Murloc
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:52 GMT
#205
On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.


Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter?

Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off.

I don't see how Damdred is comparable.


But yeah.. Pretty much.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:54 GMT
#206
Ugh, it's already so late and I have to wake up for work soon(TM).

Gn....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 06:00 GMT
#270
On March 17 2017 09:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:43 Damdred wrote:
Fuck I want to townread xata for us posting same things near each otger. But it's kinda lessens because it's about him.

Decisions decisions.

Does anybody understands the logic?


Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Ok so since dis going to go for a bit.

I think xata and cal are both town right now.

Deepblue is moving towards scummy territory with the fearless read of koshi being town for no real reason I guess?

Both bolded things look bad. I don't understand what the first sentence is about.
I dislike the wording on the read on Deepblue. Too many words. It's just bad.

Same with what pinged rayn. "I know what x did is wifom, what do you think?"


AFAIK the first post was just a joke aimed at me (he always wants to suspect me no matter what, so it's "uncomfortable" to be in "sync" with me lol).

I don't really see how changing the subject when disformation went AFK or giving a weak scumread on Deep for unsubstantiated townreads are scummy things to do. I could easily have made the same posts myself. At that point in time Deep had yet to explain much, but then he went on to do so, starting to seem more townie as time went on.

All in all, the case seems pretty NAI.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 06:00 GMT
#271
rayn, you broke character.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 06:06 GMT
#272
On March 17 2017 09:59 Damdred wrote:
Xata started as a gut read from his first playful banter. He generally as scum is pretty tense non fluid and kinda lacks much in the way of anything. I felt he was the opposite at the start, he flowed with the game thread was involved and tried to understand players.

I thought he looked town tbh.

Calix is a dick (lovable ) as town and is more free with the town reads. As scum hedges and is more middle of the road. Here really I involved even early trying to ferret out people. I liked it early and liked thebdickishness that was displayed towards koshi trying to get him to play.

Also for the record I think disf probably going to be town. Seems legit confused atvpoints, has time to back pedal and just explain and would get pressure off him but doesn't do it and just moved straight ahead. I still would like some explanation from him but yeahbi don't think scum woulddd play to bring that much attention to himself without trying to be it of him before he leaves. (Sorts bad read by hownibfeel)


A miracle....

Anyway, to me it felt exactly like he was trying to evade/deflect attention, but without being very successful. Then he left, which achieved that goal for the time being. So.. what does "moves straight ahead" mean?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 06:10 GMT
#273
On March 17 2017 11:29 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.

Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.

Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good.

ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets
calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read


Rayn, in town circle? Hasn't he been just null/scum read by everyone?

What were your reads on me/Koski/Damdred then?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 09:45 GMT
#292
Hmm. I'm a bit disturbed that my biggest question to disfornation still remains unanswered. What gives?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 10:23 GMT
#297
On March 17 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 18:45 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm. I'm a bit disturbed that my biggest question to disfornation still remains unanswered. What gives?

Can you focus on other things? What about our 3 visitors?


Not much of an impression of any of them. I remember Tumbleweed had a slightly worrying post where he complained about people being townread (even some that actually weren't?) without providing his own thoughts on the players. Foley seemed okay from what I remember. Nothing to judge their alignments with any confidence.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 12:19 GMT
#305
Hmm.... so you just pulled my "reaction" to Eden out of thin air? >.> Why?

And how is Damdred's reasoning worse than.... nothing pulled out of thin air? (granted, Damdred was joking, but you clearly thought he was serious back then)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 12:21 GMT
#307
Even after that explanation, I'm still kind of ???
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 12:26 GMT
#310
But...... you literally had nothing, as you said the whole thing was pulled out of thin air? I just can't understand how you

1) made that post in the first place, describing I said things I didn't

2) even now consider that post as "weak evidence", even though you basically made it up
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 12:27 GMT
#311
I'm not even sure if this is alignment indicative anymore. Clearly something is broken in the communication.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 12:37 GMT
#314
Mehh.... I'll keep my vote on you for the time being. I was hoping for some sort of logical explanation, but I guess it was just scum posting without genuine thought behind it (or town with a serious thought/communication meltdown - looking a bit more possible after all this.....).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 12:55 GMT
#317
I'll look more closely once I'm home. Tentatively Tumble could be OK since the only impression I got of him was null/negative even though he posted some posts.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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