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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:39 GMT
#116
I mean how does this

On March 17 2017 07:03 Xatalos wrote:
Does setup A mean:

Cop, Doc vs. Goon, Roleblocker, Framer ?


become this?

On March 17 2017 07:25 disformation wrote:
Was expecting something better tbh.
Like something about Eden baiting with setup talk and xata instantly being like "so to make it official: you are either bsing or are one of these blue roles?"

"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:42 GMT
#120
Bad Koshi.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:43 GMT
#121
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


Care to elaborate on your thought process with how you summarised my reaction to Eden's claim(?).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:45 GMT
#126
On March 17 2017 07:44 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

wtf that smiley thing was damdy and I already explained what i got from the filter.


Not really...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:46 GMT
#128
On March 17 2017 07:43 Damdred wrote:
Fuck I want to townread xata for us posting same things near each otger. But it's kinda lessens because it's about him.

Decisions decisions.


Dw, you'll be my eternal suspect.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:47 GMT
#131
On March 17 2017 07:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:42 Xatalos wrote:
Bad Koshi.

pls gooby. pls.

fyi Bad Koshi >>>> Good Xatalos

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I'm Extraordinary Xatalos today though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:49 GMT
#133
On March 17 2017 07:47 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:45 Damdred wrote:
Dis don't skip mine and xata questions. Answering one I as good as both

which questions?


Mainly just that I posted "huh" and "was this the claimed setup? X". Then you went on to say that I had made some far-reaching(?) conclusions about his alignment when I hadn't really said anything.........?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:51 GMT
#136
I think there are two different conversations going on here and for some reasons they just don't match.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:52 GMT
#137
dis: the question isn't about your thoughts about my alignment, but about how you interpreted my reaction to Eden.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:56 GMT
#141
Well, it was more like a friendly(?) greeting than a push.

The question remains on how exactly did you interpret my reaction the way you did....?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 22:56 GMT
#142
On March 17 2017 07:49 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:47 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:45 Damdred wrote:
Dis don't skip mine and xata questions. Answering one I as good as both

which questions?


Mainly just that I posted "huh" and "was this the claimed setup? X". Then you went on to say that I had made some far-reaching(?) conclusions about his alignment when I hadn't really said anything.........?

"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:00 GMT
#151
OK. Here are all the relevant posts.

On March 17 2017 07:01 Eden1892 wrote:
We're in setup A


On March 17 2017 07:02 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:01 Eden1892 wrote:
We're in setup A


Huh...


On March 17 2017 07:03 Xatalos wrote:
Does setup A mean:

Cop, Doc vs. Goon, Roleblocker, Framer ?


On March 17 2017 07:25 disformation wrote:
Was expecting something better tbh.
Like something about Eden baiting with setup talk and xata instantly being like "so to make it official: you are either bsing or are one of these blue roles?"


I just can't wrap my mind around how did the first 3 posts (all the relevant posts to the last) post result in the conclusion/interpretation of the events made in the last post?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:04 GMT
#157
On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)

in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started.


Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here.

Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you.

It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done.

##vote disformation


Kind of agree...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:07 GMT
#161
On March 17 2017 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:01 disformation wrote:
aight. getting late for me. going to bed.
if anyone can try to explain xata's question to me, that would be great


Ok let me take a whack at it.

You summarize things about xata saying that Eden is either a blue or bsing.

Data didn't say either of those things. Why did you say them and where did you get them from.


[image loading]
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:15 GMT
#169
Left my vote on dis until he makes me understand how his thought process happened in the last hour, I guess. He never really addressed the core of the issue with my confusion and was kind of overly defensive about it too.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:22 GMT
#176
Hm. Are you really a newb Blue?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:22 GMT
#177
Oh, you had played before. Nevermind.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:25 GMT
#183
DeepBlue seems to have a pretty cohesive/townie thought process so...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:26 GMT
#186
lolrayn
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 16 2017 23:27 GMT
#188
On March 17 2017 08:26 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:24 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:18 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:10 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:09 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Ok so since dis going to go for a bit.

I think xata and cal are both town right now.

Deepblue is moving towards scummy territory with the fearless read of koshi being town for no real reason I guess?

Probable scum post.


Why?

It just seemed like an easy jump and the thought process felt shallow.

Here's how I see it:
1. Scum typically lurk (at least more often than not) and I've scumread people in the past who answer irrelevant fluff questions without participating in the major discussion in the thread at the time especially early on in the game.
2. Koshi asked me a question.
3. I ignore everything else (the discussion between Xatalos and Damdred for instance) and respond to that pretty much instantly.
4. This shows I was reading the thread and refreshing it fairly often even if I'm not commenting. That's more often than not something scum do although there were extenuating circumstances here.
5. Koshi picked up on it and asked why I was lurking. That showed me he was on the lookout for possible scum even outside the major thread of discussion. So, I think he's probably town. It's not solid but that's the best read I have this early on.
6. Damdred I think missed the subtext entirely. He just threw out a shallow read "oh, he's appeasing someone who engaged him so he could be scum." It's just an easy read on someone he thinks would be an easy target. He doesn't really wonder why I townread Koshi or even straight up ask me.

Why are you townreading Damdred?

Join us. Vote Damdred.

I'm a little confused by the voting system here. Why are people voting in thread when there's a separate thread specifically for voting? Am I supposed to vote in both threads?


It's completely optional to vote in the actual thread. Only votes in the voting thread count.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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