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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 21:41 GMT
#1158
Not a kill I was expecting...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 21:42 GMT
#1159
Could be bluehunting too, I guess. At least this kill makes the all vanilla setup less likely. Since in that setup a high activity poster would be more likely killed IMO
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 21:44 GMT
#1162
On March 20 2017 06:44 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote raynpelikoneet


(for the record)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 21:45 GMT
#1164
Could you elaborate on Eden and foley?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 21:46 GMT
#1168
On March 20 2017 06:46 Onegu wrote:
hrmm ok... Guess I was wrong...

There was a better blue shot though. There was I think a very hard core blue claim.


I guess I know what you mean.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 21:48 GMT
#1171
I guess they were convinced he was a blue somehow, or just wanted to cause confusion since things were already going well for them or something. A bit hard to see that ritoky would be a direct threat.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 21:48 GMT
#1172
(I mean being a possible mislynch etc)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 21:49 GMT
#1174
On March 20 2017 06:48 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 06:46 Xatalos wrote:
On March 20 2017 06:46 Onegu wrote:
hrmm ok... Guess I was wrong...

There was a better blue shot though. There was I think a very hard core blue claim.


I guess I know what you mean.


I know you know what I mean...


And I know you know I know what you mean...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 21:58 GMT
#1178
On March 20 2017 06:57 Damdred wrote:
I'm voting Eden and everyone should follow me no matter what (until I change)


Hm?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:03 GMT
#1182
I wouldn't be against having rayn vs Eden wagons today. Wouldn't even surprise me if they're both scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:08 GMT
#1186
On March 20 2017 07:05 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 07:03 Xatalos wrote:
I wouldn't be against having rayn vs Eden wagons today. Wouldn't even surprise me if they're both scum.


I'm not super-convinced here but two wagons is always a good idea so I'll help with this endeavour.


Yeah, I like having 2 wagons. It's bound to be a treasure trove of information if there's scum included in there.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:08 GMT
#1187
And a lot of time remains to decide on the correct lynch (feeling rayn atm though).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:12 GMT
#1189
I kind of feel like Onegu could be town though. Seems to really say whatever is on his mind, especially at end of N1?

disformation... dunno still. Probably not today's worry though.

Rels is impossible to say.

Damdred and Koshi lean town for me so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:24 GMT
#1195
On March 20 2017 07:19 Damdred wrote:
As an aside to xata I think if rayn is scum it clears tumble slightly.


Hm? I think it's the opposite. If rayn flips scum, then Tumble could be scum with some confidence?

Considering that Tumble's hesitation wasn't very logical in case of scum Tumble / town rayn. In that case scum Tumble should be easily willing to just continue going for rayn and look better after Malongo flips?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:34 GMT
#1198
Spewed tw town how?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 19 2017 22:38 GMT
#1202
Going to sleep now though.. see ya sometime tomorrow!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 06:09 GMT
#1313
I have a couple of issues with rayn's claim.... But if it's true, rayn will never live until LYLO (because JK will screw over the scumteam over time otherwise), and if it's fake, rayn will be CC'd / caught eventually. So I don't think it's wise to waste a lynch on him until it's shown that he's fake claiming.

If it's the all vanilla setup, rayn's claim could be a decent enough method to save himself for the time being. However, all vanilla seems less likely now that ritoky was killed... And I'm not sure if scum rayn would crush his long-term prospects so easily by fake claiming now.

rayn, why was your initial save ritoky? You even said that ritoky was an "extremely unlikely kill"..? That actually bothers me more than the possibility of all vanilla.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 06:12 GMT
#1314
On March 20 2017 10:32 Tumblewood wrote:
if eden really directed that NK then the other scummers must be passive as hell. or afk


Yeah, dunno how he would have thought that killing ritoky helped himself anyway... it just made him look pretty suspicious. But I guess we can't rule out that possibility.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 06:17 GMT
#1315
Since Calix followed my plan earlier, I'll follow hers now for the time being. Eden vs disfo isn't a bad place to start. It's quite true that disfo has been a bit "under the radar" for a while now, so this should help with that too. And 1v1 is nice.

(Earlier D1 disfo was very engaged with the confusion thing, but after he was cleared of suspicion to some extent, he didn't do much with his newfound freedom and rather faded into the background? I'll have to look at him again soonish.)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 06:27 GMT
#1316
One townie point for disfo though is that he was quite active/interested around EOD D1. As scum he should have perhaps been a bit more lazy/careful? Assuming Mal/rayn/Damdred were all town there.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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