Liquidmania Qualifier #3
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Molongo can you elaborate on how you can accuse rayn of making' like the convo Damdred/Koshi never happened' because I don't understand at all. | ||
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On February 21 2017 03:17 Malongo wrote: Let`s start this again Vivax-Fecalfeast-sicklucker M: hello V-F-S V-F-S: hi there M: look, I think an interesting way to start things going is if you answer Who would you lynch first f it was in your power? (insert here sicklucker quote about high %) V-F-S: but Malongo, there is not enough posts (and we want that %) M: Yes I know, but let`s work with what we have for now. As for me I would lynch ryan because he dodged some argument and whatnot. V-F-S: But Malongo, how can you possible think he is mafia. I don`t understand your reasoning. M: Hey I gave you my reason. I am not really making a case against ryan, I am answering the same question that I`d like you to answer, I am more interested in your answer, and I think the town will benefit greatly. V-F-S: But Malongo, how could ever pinpoint ryan as mafia, how should he act in the case he is not mafia. M: Would you answer the question please, moron? Why are you misrepresenting me here? (Bold) If I had to lynch someone right now I would pick koshi for voting me. Though that's not really fair since you asked before he did. | ||
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On February 21 2017 02:47 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##vote Fecelfeast ##vote koshi | ||
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Palmar MVP so far though | ||
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I will, however, ask you: have the posts since you chose rayn as your hypothetical lynch changed your mind at all? Do you think anything other than rayn's handling of a discussion is alignment indicative? | ||
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You actually reminded me. Molongo why was I geouped up with vivax and sicklucker saying there aren't enough posts when i never said that until after? | ||
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I'm pretending to poop now too | ||
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What did he make up though? For us dumb peasants | ||
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On February 21 2017 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay guys, especially Palmar, let's put some meaning behind the words: Can you elaborate more on what he made up that makes you think he is mafia? Sure he completely left out the next post of yours when making a "case" on you. Sure he completely twisted Malongo's words into talking about policy when that's not what he was talking about. Sure Malongo never said rayn would be mafia for treating it as all town (Koshi+Damdred). How does that make him mafia? I mean - you have seen Vivax play before, right? ![]() I believe Vivax believes in what he is saying instead of jsut making shit up (which is what he would be doing in case he was mafia). I believe saying this: ..if you are scum and know you're just making shit up doesn't make any single bit of sense since this game actually has smart people in it - people who will most likely tell you that you're making up an argument or something. ![]() Too scummy to be scummy, basically? If this is truly what palmar meant and his fake quote is just a joke I didn't get then why does this not deserve more scrutiny than "Vivax wouldn't be dumb as scum and this is dumb" On February 21 2017 11:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: But sicklucker is mafia. Apparently you didn't realize that when i first posted about him. The hard part is to explain why, because probably noone will understand that. Let me tell you a story. When sicklucker joins a game he creates a magical sicklucker land on the side. When a game starts sicklucker starts posting from the sicklucker land where important things are very different than the things in the normal people land. sicklucker knows that but sicklucker doesn't care. Only time when sicklucker cares is when sicklucker is mafia -- that's when he tries to post from normal people land but reminds all the other people he is in fact in sicklucker land. I have seen this many times. I have seen it in Office mini mafia, i have seen it in Millioaire Cell mafia, i have seen it in Battle of the Drams. The only time i was wrong with this read early on was in Palmar's Storm game and i was really confused when rsoultin after dying told me that sicklucker is not in their team. He happend to be SK. Basically what he does is he tries to look like he is not caring about the game while still "caring" (as he gets read as scum a lot of times as town for the following ->) when as town he just does his own shit early on and doesn't really care what other people think. + Show Spoiler + As a note sicklucker; I am not trying to say you are bad, you just do your stuff your own way. I laughed when i read the last resistance game and everyone was scumreading you and when you got to a leader position my first thought was "well that's ironic because i think SL is the first one in this game to propose an all town team..." ![]() So, i am pretty confident in this read. Maybe Damdred will get what i am trying to say here. Hopefully. ##vote sicklucker So to try and understand... Sicklucker cares too much about this game and is trying too hard to make it seem like he doesn't? Can you give an example from this game? On February 21 2017 11:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Actually i'll take back the townread on FF. Idk if he can actually believe... ...in these above posts. The first one i would be willing to let slide but i am not sure, when coupled with the second one, if he is even trying to process what he reads. I saw that he posted a fake quote and disregarded what he said entirely. After he did the fake quote I was on break at work and nobody else was posting. I eagerly awaited the end of my shift to see reactions to the quote and there were no posts. Regardless of my excuse, why does not processing what I read make me mafia? | ||
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Rayn and SL and vivax have some good points on damdred but i am still flip flopping on sl and the double bus is a bit of a stretch to me. Vivax does not seem scummy to me regardless of what trumpmar says. Therefore ##vote damdred My break is over and the deadline is exactly when i expect to get home from work (530pm my time) so i may not get a lotnof time to respond but i am a slacker and will be reading. | ||
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Vivax Rayn Mandingo Palmar Licksucker* Damdred* Keep in mind most of my play has taken place at work and i haven't had a chance to relookat anything or anyones filters. Stars mean sheeps since i haven't been able to formulate a proper read on damdred or SL. Palmar tricked me with his jokes and that makes me not like him, I'm probably not giving mondooger enough credit but I don't really feel good about his posts that i vaguely remember. Rayn and vivax seem like they're trying to solve the game and koshi is obviously still my top town since forever. BM gets a read when he makes a post. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26354584 I actually have to do work now but his analysis of palmars shit made me think he is trying to solve the game rather than push an agenda | ||
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I really don't like lurker lynches day one | ||
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On February 22 2017 08:54 Koshi wrote: The problem here is Palmar. I don't know what he is doing. But the post he made about be being a traitor to the people is something he did as mafia before. Excuse another question but was the game recent or was it before trump declared the press and enemy of the people? | ||
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On February 22 2017 09:02 Vivax wrote: FF: This really needs to be answered since you claim that you are sheeping. And I am not sure what you are sheeping. Does it mean anything to you that SL self voted after he explained it was a mistake? I don't see how you draw conclusions on his alignment from here, so I don't see how it's relevant. As for rayn, it's his first game on here since ages and I want him to be comfy. Answeredd already hiding phone from boss | ||
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Does that not seem super scummy to anyone else? | ||
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I had a really bad sleep, girlfriend was sick all night and i don't sleep very easily as it is. EoD was a shitshow and I'm not inclined to have a closer look until next day phase but off the top of my head damdred and BM look bad from it. I wish there were beds at work. | ||
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What do you make of the end of day, Koshi? Damdred is looking better because of the eod or despite it? | ||
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On February 23 2017 23:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here is the thing. Here is how Palmar's read progresses: Before D1 end: The problem here is when Palmar is town and he thinks i am mafia he will 100% vote for me and try to convince everyone else to vote for me because he values lynching me when he thinks i am mafia. There is literally 0% chance Palmar actually thinks i am mafia and doesn't vote for me. Here is what happens after the lynch: So either Palmar wanted his #2 lynch to be someone who he doesnt think is scum, or he doesn't actually think i (or Vivax) am mafia. Now how does this make sense? Go back to his filter on D1 and read the posts. Literally every single post where there is a mafia"read" says either "Vivax is mafia" or "rayn is mafia". Now at this point there is maybe 0.1% chance Palmar is actually just trolling on his read on me, but that cannot be true since he is again calling me scum (when i have not made a single post that could affect the read after N1 start). TLDR; - Palmar's read on me doesn't go along with his actions in the thread - Even if you don't know his play well enough, everything he says is like "i am writing this in a trolling manner so i can backpedal it later on if i need to, i was just trolling". - He's been just as fucking unproductive than BM has been in this game while actually being here and "playing". Does ANY of you think that Palmar, as town, when a person he thinks in town is getting the most votes aka being lynched, plays like he did on EOD? Never ever, never!!! Now i am gonna get my stuff ready for the trip and then i am gonna read again and find the second mafia dude. Of and for a possible cop, do not claim even if Palmar sticks with the claim, he is super fucking obvious scum and you don't have to. Even if he somehow manages to get me lynched instead of him do not claim. You'll get another check. Except if you have a red check you can claim because we 100% win the game right there. I just woke up and haven't checked up on d1 yet but this looks pretty solid. Couple questions tho, You say there's a 0.1% chance palmar is trolling. If the chance is that low why even mention it? Obviously if he's mafia he'll say he was trolling or at least act like it. If town palmar would lynch you 100% if he thinks you're mafia, what value is there in a mafia palmar not trying to lynch you? Some kind of careless slipup/not thinking like a town? | ||
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On February 24 2017 00:30 Palmar wrote: You'll get another check. lel, fake news, only cop can be 1 shot. gottem boys This is true. | ||
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On February 24 2017 01:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fecalfeast you know one of me/Palmar is scum by default. Who do you think is the other scum and why? I don't know anything really. If I were to assume one of you is scum, I would assume palmar. Partnered with palmar i could see BM based on his eod last second vote into total mia for 30 hours. Yeah palmar BM makes sense to me right now. Incase t isn't clear yet i am phone posting at work again | ||
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Oh the colourblind post? I'm not smart | ||
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On February 23 2017 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palmar are you claiming to be a cop? On February 23 2017 20:12 Palmar wrote: yes, I am I'm so confused | ||
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On February 24 2017 04:05 Vivax wrote: What do you mean it looks solid? Do you think rayn has a point here or not? I did, since to me it looked like palmar claimed cop. You know since he did... if it's a fake troll trump claim then idk what to think anymore. | ||
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Malongo why are you demotivated? | ||
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Mal having a decent day one into almost nothing today and saying he's demotivated made me suspicious of him. To me it's not that demoralizing to mislynch day1 because we can at least analyze the votes. Which I haven't done yet actually. | ||
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##unvote ##vote malongo | ||
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Your reads all seem to be based on surface reading/skimming. Low effort but tryig to make your read post seem high effort. You feel the pressure since everyone else is starting to actually act towny. That's how i see it anyway since i know I'm town | ||
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I will look next break busy work day | ||
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However I kinda assumed the malongo kill was to frame me but nobody has hard pushed me today so occams razor would suggest that the people who would use the malongo kill against me are not present and that means BM+damdred is the mafia team | ||
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On February 28 2017 02:37 Palmar wrote: Like that post makes me want to lynch the fuck out of ff This post makes me think you were just waiting for me to post before you started pushing me | ||
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That stops now. | ||
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