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RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 05 2017 13:37 GMT
#894
-flings a shoe at vivax- by the way, if you're town here and are determined that any team (team w/ sharkie or team w/ us) that fails a mission makes us scum, you've fucked over your own game ^^ do us a solid and consider that there MAY be and in fact IS a different situation here

in a world with a scum grack, or even a scum sharkie, you pulling this just really makes us wonder if we're right on our townread on you. just saying
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 05 2017 15:14 GMT
#896
On February 06 2017 00:10 Vivax wrote:
Grack isn't scum though as the suspicion would easily have fallen onto sharkie if he sabotaged. I'm really confident about this.

So I'm trying to force a decision between you and me (in terms of alignment) in the eventuality of mission failure by requesting you to be on the team with me, along with two others who are very very likely resistance. It's pretty much the most sure way for me to be 100% on your alignment as I will be 100% convinced that you're spy if the mission fails.

Besides I don't understand why you resist this suggestion so much if you are resistance and townreading me. According to your own beliefs, the mission should pass no? And since when did you become so waffly on Grack?

you're sitting in your world of 'if this mission fails' then x,y,z

we still think the most likely scenario is that all of sharkie, grack and silver are town. introducing you into that equation is a lesser certainty. for us we'd be happiest with us being added to the team instead of you xP
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 05 2017 15:19 GMT
#898
regardless it doesn't really matter for us, as long as people will just assume that a fail means a sharkie/rtan scum team, which is what thread sentiment looks like

basically all four of you look pretty town to us -shrugs- it doesn't matter that much unless we're wrong. the problem is, if we ARE wrong, you're framing it like we're insta!scum, and we don't have a lot of faith that y'all will get all of the other five town right

that's what it comes down to
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 05 2017 15:21 GMT
#900
On February 06 2017 00:17 Vivax wrote:
It's my suggestion for gathering more information as, if the current nomination fails, most will be sure that sharkie is spy which writes 1 spy off. But if you are on it instead of him and it fails, there is the opportunity to write 2 spies off, only leaving you with 1 member to win the game.

And since it's still a nomination that excludes emc/SL/superbia/TW, it's still a safe way to establish if we got sneakster spies or obvious spies. As the 4 above are the most distrusted ones in the game and this would clear at least one of them.

So you believe there's no opportunity of us being scum without sharkie being scum, but believe there's a chance he's scum without us being scum, or why do you think you get more information with us on?
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 05 2017 15:22 GMT
#901
On February 06 2017 00:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2017 00:14 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 06 2017 00:10 Vivax wrote:
Grack isn't scum though as the suspicion would easily have fallen onto sharkie if he sabotaged. I'm really confident about this.

So I'm trying to force a decision between you and me (in terms of alignment) in the eventuality of mission failure by requesting you to be on the team with me, along with two others who are very very likely resistance. It's pretty much the most sure way for me to be 100% on your alignment as I will be 100% convinced that you're spy if the mission fails.

Besides I don't understand why you resist this suggestion so much if you are resistance and townreading me. According to your own beliefs, the mission should pass no? And since when did you become so waffly on Grack?

you're sitting in your world of 'if this mission fails' then x,y,z

we still think the most likely scenario is that all of sharkie, grack and silver are town. introducing you into that equation is a lesser certainty. for us we'd be happiest with us being added to the team instead of you xP


Well if that's your most likely scenario, why doesn't it take into consideration that it's a team I nominated?

It doesn't make you confirmed town. Obviously you'd know how good it makes you look when the team passes. We're talking about the situation in which we're wrong. Believe it or not, we're more certain we're town than that we're certain that you're town.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 05 2017 15:23 GMT
#902
Anyway, we have guests over so we're gonna stop being antisocial now >> talk later
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 05 2017 20:03 GMT
#909
On February 06 2017 01:56 Silverika wrote:
I get the point sharkie is making that vivax is setting up a scenario where he can frame Rtani Soul and fail the mission but my counter to that is, he could just leave it as is, and fail it and blame sharkie.

So I don't think it's that cut and dry and Vivax is suddenly pulling out all the stops as a spy.

I think Rtani Soul not liking the Vivax, Grack, us, them is a little more suspect because they'd have a hard time failing it if they are a spy, with this team because they wouldn't have sharkie to blame and they'd have a tough time blaming anyone else if it failed.

~SilverWolf77


i actually agree that there's not much reason for a possible scum vivax to play this way, which is why i'm fine with his suggestion. i think any team with a combo of the original three, us and vivax is a good idea

if the mission goes through then is sabotaged, we'll work it from there

our issue is not with the suggestion so much as the blind bullheadedness vivax is displaying. most likely it won't be a problem though, so whatevs. as long as it's between us five, silver, you've got our blessing ^^
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 13:54 GMT
#921
On February 06 2017 20:12 Superbia wrote:
Has anyone checked if reads line up with yay voters on the last team btw?


ah something you can do then ^^ might even make you look proactive
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 15:06 GMT
#924
If Superbia and Sicklucker are somehow town, god help us all.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 16:36 GMT
#944
Who are the spies exactly super? Prob easier for you to read your pm than for silver to guess ^^
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 17:21 GMT
#954
On February 07 2017 01:38 Superbia wrote:
Usually I have a certain threshold for how funny I find these types of posts. It has reached that threshold.

That's too bad. You haven't earned the right to mope at people poking fun at you for how little effort you've put into this game.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 17:54 GMT
#963
On February 07 2017 02:52 Superbia wrote:
I don't necessarily think you're town EC lol

What ARE your reads right now?
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 17:59 GMT
#965
On February 07 2017 02:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Methinks the team is Sharkie/Tumblewood/Rtanisoul

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RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 18:16 GMT
#975
On February 07 2017 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
my team makes sense to me. I'm pretty sure the next mission is going to fail.

Silverika is too indignant to be scum.

Vivax is actually coming up with a lot of thought out scum pairings without trying too hard to be town read. Plus he said right off the bat that Silver/I aren't scum, which is a good thing from my perspective.

Tumblewood/Artanis are both like "I think Grack could definitely be scum here. Full steam ahead guys!"
##Accept. Plus Tumblewood is super blendy while Rtanisoul seems to mainly be trying to buddy Silver.

Everyone else seems to be showing at least some level of skepticism over the team.

Yes, you COULD be scum. As we've said countless times we don't think you are, nor do we think sharkie or silver is.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 18:18 GMT
#976
As for buddying, the only reason anyone's given for us to be scum so far is in association with people who may or may not be mafia.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 18:20 GMT
#978
And it's literally driving me up a wall. Hurr Rtanisoul might be mafia because they wanted sharkie on the mission and we think sharkie might be mafia. Let us just forget that Vivax was the first person to point out how townie he is and instantly accepted him being on the mission instead of us, it must clearly be Rtanisoul!
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 18:23 GMT
#979
People have been sniping at our slot since the get go for shitty reasons nothing to do with OUR play and it's made both of us quite frustrated. She's at uni right now but she vented about it herself yesterday.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 18:34 GMT
#983
On February 07 2017 03:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 03:23 RtaniSoul wrote:
People have been sniping at our slot since the get go for shitty reasons nothing to do with OUR play and it's made both of us quite frustrated. She's at uni right now but she vented about it herself yesterday.

I just don't understand all of the confidence in this mission.

Between the four of us you would need to have found 4/5 townies

Scum would have had to have failed massively this game, and the vote for the last mission wasn't even close. It's also not like Sharkie or I were beacons of townie-ness that couldn't have been stopped. I don't think either of us were even going to be put on Silver's mission if that mission was rejected.

We think super is very scummy. We think sicklucker is very scummy. We believe silver is very town and sharkie is very town, and also believe you and vivax have done things that would be difficult for you to emulate as scum.

Silver is town due to a massive amount of analysis he's put in. Sharkie is town because he's basically an innocent child and everything he's posted is beaming in bright neon letters "I don't have TMI, I have no idea how to read people". You've helped progress the games at points where it was dead where it really wasn't necessary and Vivax made a bunch of posts that would be weird to come from scum, like this idea of not wanting the team leader to be in the mission which seems contrary to scum objectives.

Of course you weren't going to be put on the next mission if it was rejected; one of you would have had to be scum. That's kind of obvious. Point is, it hasn't. I feel that's because the mission is likely clean.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 18:34 GMT
#985
On February 07 2017 03:33 Silverika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 03:29 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 07 2017 03:23 RtaniSoul wrote:
People have been sniping at our slot since the get go for shitty reasons nothing to do with OUR play and it's made both of us quite frustrated. She's at uni right now but she vented about it herself yesterday.

I just don't understand all of the confidence in this mission.

Between the four of us you would need to have found 4/5 townies

Scum would have had to have failed massively this game, and the vote for the last mission wasn't even close. It's also not like Sharkie or I were beacons of townie-ness that couldn't have been stopped. I don't think either of us were even going to be put on Silver's mission if that mission was rejected.


Aren't there 6 townie's?

Since I'm not in the mission it'd need to be 4 out of 5.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 06 2017 18:38 GMT
#987
Also, remember, Tina and I are sharing this slot. We've talked to each other about the game a decent bit which doesn't all end up in the thread and as we know from each other that we're resistance we're more certain in our reads than we individually would be. We're both reasonably sure that the mafia team is in superbia/sicklucker/EC/tumblewood.

Obviously not certain as can be told from our argument with Vivax earlier.
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