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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 13:59 GMT
#2056
Vivacious, **see previous explanation** one of the people on this mission is a spy.

Do you think it's Sicklucker?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 14:08 GMT
#2057
On February 14 2017 08:52 Vivax wrote:
Tbf tho id put ls over super in the team after cause ls would be like a hammer vote one scum while super almost had to approve.

This is you right here saying that it could be a strategic move for Super to choose/vote for an all town team.

Also none of you guys seem to understand that the next mission needs 2 spies to fail.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 14:23 GMT
#2060
On February 14 2017 23:19 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 23:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 14 2017 08:52 Vivax wrote:
Tbf tho id put ls over super in the team after cause ls would be like a hammer vote one scum while super almost had to approve.

This is you right here saying that it could be a strategic move for Super to choose/vote for an all town team.

Also none of you guys seem to understand that the next mission needs 2 spies to fail.

The only time this matters is if we pass this mission. Otherwise it just pushes our problems forward to the last mission where we do need a spyless 5-man mission.

I'm just saying that because I saw SL/Vivax both suggesting that Super would vote for an all town team just to get placed in the next one.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 14:25 GMT
#2062
And sharkie does egg on fights.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 14:37 GMT
#2063
On February 14 2017 23:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 23:08 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 14 2017 08:52 Vivax wrote:
Tbf tho id put ls over super in the team after cause ls would be like a hammer vote one scum while super almost had to approve.

This is you right here saying that it could be a strategic move for Super to choose/vote for an all town team.

Also none of you guys seem to understand that the next mission needs 2 spies to fail.


Yea I forgot that tbh. As for strategic move, super didn't have that much choice. Who else besides himself and SL could he put in if he goes with the theory that I'm not scum? Literally only TW/LS and emc. And he was pressured into putting SL in instead. As I already said, I didn't have that pressure. You disagree, but it looked to me very much like I'd be on the next team if mine got rejected.

Btw I want a stance on you how you realize that you have to at least revisit your read on me while sharkie doesn't. It's one of the things I aimed for when I voted reject.

I think Sharkie's explanation actually makes sense. If you have teammates that aren't being town read than you have to fail multiple missions. Putting yourself onto a team was going to hurt the way people read you since you attacked people for putting themselves on their team. Even if the 3 person mission passed and was sabotaged it would put you at a disadvantage against me/Silverika for the subsequent missions.

I didn't really think that you were a shoe-in for the next mission, but if you really thought so then it doesn't look great that you were trying to raise doubts about the mission based on my list post and then backtracked when people weren't agreeing with you.

I do agree that people re-evaluating their reads a lot is a townie trait compared to having static reads.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 14:46 GMT
#2064
Here's the problem that I have.

Sicklucker did not make much of an attempt to get on this mission. For him to be the lone scum sabotaging this mission we have to assume that scum just lucked into getting a sabotage with no real plan of their own.

These teams where your reads are currently based don't seem very likely at all to me:

Grack/Sharkie/SL
Sharkie/EC/SL

Can we really conclude that You/Silver/Artanis are all town and every townie just started vouching for the final scum who has pretty much been a shitter all game long? He made really little effort to get on this mission. You guys just insisted on him being sent.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 15:34 GMT
#2073
On February 15 2017 00:28 Superbia wrote:
Like I have no fucking idea what kind of comments you are leaving sharkie.

"mentioned that way before you" okay? It's not even a relevant point to begin with?

Lol where is EC? He hasn't posted in 5 days and he's still voting. He's making things a lot easier for us if he's scum and if he's town I don't even.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 16:01 GMT
#2078
On February 15 2017 00:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm not even sure this fails so it's kinda surprising to see 7 pages of filter overnight. They were an enjoyable read though.

Grack chooses to remain pants on head on sharkie although the points against him keep getting more stacked and stacked by multiple people that can't all be spies.

I don't think you're one to talk.

You kept suggesting me/sharkie being a scum team. Who says this about their teammate when everybody is scum reading both of them? It seems like a pretty obvious town spew if he's mafia.
On February 12 2017 08:37 sharkie wrote:
vivax will probably go into history of leading the worst spy team to a win...
Can't believe I am the only person who keeps reading him a spy. At least people start opening their eyes to Grack. Totally sad that it took so long for people to realise that he isn't a spy..
Vivax is totally abusing the meta here, do you even notice how often he keeps mentioning that this is not his way to play a spy -> ergo being that he isn't a spy! That is like the lamest excuse ever. Some of you at least realised that two of our worst players in the game are the other two spies but don't see that as a reason how vivax is forced to play the game.
Just ask yourself if you were in his position, how would you play the game? You need to fail three missions, and your teammates will never have the prospect of entering a team nomination successfully. What would you do in that position? Stop thinking about the player but about the situation. Look at his defenses when he was accused by rt, me or grack. He got even defense bonus points from ec/tw - I'd never want that. He is also the only player who has still refused to flat out call ec a spy. The only thing I might agree with him is that tw might be a good player as super only appears in the game when it benefits his position as a potential spy player.
Also the mere prospect of Grack AND me being spies and not failing the first mission is so ridicilous. This is as ridicilous as his earlier "sure thing" of rt and me being a spy team together. I think his words back then were "if this mission fails, rt+sharkie is a sure thing." Do you even realise that he framed our second most reliable resistance player (rtani) a spy? How the heck can that be ignored?


Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 16:05 GMT
#2079
Mafia always read their teammates as being scummier than they actually are. Everyone else is scum reading me for changing reads. Instead he's like:

"Grack is obviously town for attacking Vivax. He could have blamed me. Sad!"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 16:19 GMT
#2083
On February 15 2017 01:15 Vivax wrote:
You also keep pulling the noob card on sharkie but he doesn't seem as unexperienced as he looked like at the start, his posting evolved quite a bit from innocent child to pit fight shoutcaster

I agree. The Sharkie transformation has been pretty huge. He went from "Mission looks good - 6 town 3 mafia!" to super confident town/scum reads that go against thread sentiment.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 16:23 GMT
#2084
Do you think Rtanisoul is capable of this kind of play as mafia? Or do you think it has to be Sicklucker?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 17:29 GMT
#2087
On February 15 2017 02:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2017 01:23 Grackaroni wrote:
Do you think Rtanisoul is capable of this kind of play as mafia? Or do you think it has to be Sicklucker?


I don't know why you are assuming that the mission is a failure even. Elaborate?

Because the only people to down vote it were me/you/EC/Sharkie. You were on the mission. That means there must have been one scum that voted to approve it, but that would be so stupid for them to do that because it looked like the mission was going to be approved and they automatically lose if an all town 4 person mission passes.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 17:31 GMT
#2088
Plus I think even you had realized that the mission had failed from the fact that the accused spies are still active.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 17:35 GMT
#2091
Can't we just say that it's never Grack?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 22:03 GMT
#2114
lulz
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 22:04 GMT
#2115
It doesn't make sense!!

I guess we just win now.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 22:23 GMT
#2140
I don't think it was an all town team.

But w/e.

There's not much else to do right now but send up the next team + 1.

It seems pretty dumb to me to reveal 2 spies in 5 people when you only have to show 1 out of 4.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 22:25 GMT
#2144
Actually what are the odds that 2 spies choose not to sabotage?

It seems pretty low.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 22:25 GMT
#2145
On February 15 2017 07:24 RtaniSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2017 07:23 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't think it was an all town team.

But w/e.

There's not much else to do right now but send up the next team + 1.

It seems pretty dumb to me to reveal 2 spies in 5 people when you only have to show 1 out of 4.


-squints at-

what scum by himself passes mission 3 leading into mission 4? or you think it's 2 spies on the mission?

A dumb one.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 14 2017 22:27 GMT
#2149
On February 15 2017 07:26 Superbia wrote:
It's probably just EC/LS/Sharkie.

I guess I'll go with that.

I'm good with adding you next.
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