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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 05:27 GMT
#1940
I'm drunk and nobody is talking on the mafias.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 05:29 GMT
#1941
We're never going to win because I'm the one taking the fall for the last failed mission.

I kind of think that the spy may just be Silverika being good with playing with people's emotions. But I really don't want to deal with all of the shit that goes along with accusing Silverika of being a spy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 05:31 GMT
#1942
Arrrrrrrrrtanisoul

You're our only hope.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 05:33 GMT
#1943
Irregardless it's ugly. We're probably going to lose.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 05:39 GMT
#1944
Like we need to get way better at analysis if we want to get 5 townies on the final mission.

Because right now it's not even close.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 06:10 GMT
#1947
On February 14 2017 15:08 Silverika wrote:
Grack, every time I think you might be Town and I might be wrong about Vivax, you post something scummy. Saying we are manipulating people's emotions as a spy is about as low as it gets. I don't use RL or emotionally manipulate people as scum. It goes against my ethical and moral beliefs. If I want to win as scum in a game, there's other ways to do it. You don't want to deal with spy reading us, because we might get angry even though earlier you said that would make us resistance? At least try to be consistent. I also apologized earlier for being bitchy this game so I have no idea why you want to start more shit. Drunk or not there's no excuse for it.

This is what I was talking about by the way.

I just don't like that your reads are so heavily influenced by the way people read you guys. And I felt the same way in the newbie game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 06:11 GMT
#1948
Like it seems pretty obvious to me that the way to get town read by you guys is to town read you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 06:12 GMT
#1949
But really I have no idea what's going on.

One of you/Sharkie/Vivax is playing a pretty damn good scum game.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 06:25 GMT
#1953
On February 14 2017 15:19 Silverika wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 15:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Like it seems pretty obvious to me that the way to get town read by you guys is to town read you.


No actually it isn't. You don't know a damn thing about how I play do how about you stop being an ass for 5 seconds?

Like, fuck you grack. I don't give a damn how drunk you are just fuck off.

I'm so over this game.

No but seriously I'm not going to put up with your shit right now, at all. I'm not being an ass.

You do scum read people specifically for scum reading you. I do it too sometimes. I just want to play the game without derailing into a shit fight every time I post.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 06:33 GMT
#1958
I'm really not trying to piss you off Silver.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 06:35 GMT
#1959
I just feel like that you guys are scum reading me because I was questioning your alignment.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 06:38 GMT
#1960
On February 14 2017 15:08 Silverika wrote:
I don't use RL or emotionally manipulate people as scum. It goes against my ethical and moral beliefs. If I want to win as scum in a game, there's other ways to do it.

And I didn't mean this in a bad way.

I feel like it's perfectly fine (or even admirable) for people to feign emotions to seem more townie.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 06:45 GMT
#1962
On February 14 2017 15:41 sharkie wrote:
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On February 14 2017 15:35 Grackaroni wrote:
I just feel like that you guys are scum reading me because I was questioning your alignment.


spyreading rtani also killed your credibility imo - I still don't know how that made any sense. I totally agree with vivax as you are definitely resistance.

It just made sense to me for the Vivax scum scenario.

it seemed like kind of a stretch to suggest that Vivax would propose an all town mission and risk Artanis being put in as the 4th member for the next team. Vivax proposed the mission but Artanisoul was the one that stuck up for you being town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 07:13 GMT
#1966
I really don't care that you aren't town reading me.
7/8 players in this game aren't town reading me.

Straight up, I do like that Sharkie is defending me. I think this is how things should have been interpreted:

On February 09 2017 16:38 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2017 16:10 Silverika wrote:
Sharkie-we gave those scum games cuz grackeroni asked.



That is true. I cannot give you negative points for something Grack had asked you to link.

I am just a player who goes into The resistance with a clean plate all the time. I look how players play THIS game and don't think of old games at all. So each time one of you mention that vivax is not the sort of player to do "X" my suspicion of him grows. Because what would be the best play as a spy? Exactly, play like you have never played before. That throws you off completely. I wish I had the assistance of players who have clean slates like me to help analyse vivax. From a neutral point of view everything Grack has said makes complete sense to me and is not the play of a spy.

My biggest point in favour of Grack is: he defended me (that I don't care about personally) and accused a completely new combination of spies (rtani + vivax). Why should any spy do that? He could have just joined the cool guys (silver and vivax) into bullying sharkie and rt as spies and just enjoy his status as top resistance player. But he didn't do that! No way any spy would ever do such a play. That is self suicidal. You really expect a seasoned player like Grack to

1) Don't fail the first mission to gain credibility in order to prepare for a bigger con.
-> Yes, absolutely. That is very good spy play!!

2) After 1, throw everything into the wind and go defend sharkie and accuse vivax/RT
-> No way in hell, not even a n00b player would do that.


I'm in a difficult situation of having to find one of you/Sharkie/Vivax as spy. None of you seem all that likely scum to me.

You can look at motive for trying to kick you off the mission. I'm telling you right now though that this current mission is going to fail. So we should start looking at who the spy is on this team RIGHT NOW.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 07:32 GMT
#1971
lol I get why you don't want to be set up as the scapegoat but I've already been set up as the scapegoat!

You do put a lot of effort into the game.

I just don't like the accusations that get directed towards me. I get that my accusation is annoying because I'm basing it off of other people's play. I'm just baffled that one of you guys is playing so well.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 07:32 GMT
#1972
On February 14 2017 16:25 Silverika wrote:
Also, grack when I said I didn't understand your read progression, you said you weren't gonna read the scumgames you asked for that I provided and got snippy with us but never addressed our concerns.

I got pissy.

I can read the scum games. I wasn't able to find the filter system but w/e.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 07:48 GMT
#1978
Can I just ask why you say there's no way Sharkie is a spy?

Because I'm even wavering on him.

But I'm in the same position as you. Sharkie is playing an extremely good game for a new scum player. You guys are active and seem townie, but I think there's potential that you guys are just strong scum players. Vivax putting through an all town mission just doesn't seem all that likely.

I don't think I would jump around with my reads this much as scum. It's a lot of work to fake.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 08:35 GMT
#1991
On February 14 2017 17:33 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 17:26 Silverika wrote:
On February 14 2017 17:15 Superbia wrote:
Perhaps the tw/rtsoul/x world is real

Who failed mission two then?


x

Lol why Artanisoul/TW combo. It just seems like two random names to me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 08:57 GMT
#1996
^

When I mention TUMBLEWOOD town reading me I'm only half joking. He's actually really good at realizing somebody is town for doing something retarded that scum would never do.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
February 14 2017 09:02 GMT
#1997
Like the one time where he was scum reading and people were pressuring me to post analysis and instead I came back with a lengthy Holyflare/Damdred love fanfiction.
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