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On December 20 2016 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
So you knew exo played liked this before.
You didn't say a word earlier.
You said you didn't want to comment on it.
You made a big post that didn't mention it.
The game isn't in the database so you read it and knew because you were there at the time.
You make that post.
I call you out on the above.
You quote your late cycle post saying you mention it early????
No I had to reread the game?
Cause I totally forgot about that game until Rels mentioned and I thought it would be a good idea to look at exos filter again?
Cause I totally forgot about that game until Rels mentioned and I thought it would be a good idea to look at exos filter again?
Had to look for the game. Took me like 10 mins to find it.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
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Like earlier I had 4 ppl in my poe (still have tbh).
So I think I should do some stuff. I remember Rels pointed out that game. So I look for it and read ExO_s filter. I see a bunch of similarities to this. BUt then after cooling down ExO_ starts to play there and has some good posts. Some of which I posted.
Here we only get a huge appeal to emotion.
I feel confident that ExO_ is actually scum here based on that.
No idea why you have such a big problem with that.
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Thats also something i told you earlier. -.-
On December 20 2016 22:15 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 22:06 Holyflare wrote:I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down: ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database. Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al. Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked. Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one. Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all. Disformation didn't even factor it in at all. Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon. I was in obs this game, forgot about until someone mentioned it (might have been rels).Was bored adn decided to look at it. and i def. mention that the start of the game is similar. the big difference is what happens afterward. He starts to play a good town game and by the time he looks like the def. lynch the posts I quoted happen. Looks like day and night to this game. timing checks out. there should at least be some decent posts by exo here by now.
But yeah. Ill have a coffee and try to look at SL and rels. Thought I had a decent point on SL just before we posted this exchange.
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Thing is you seem to be super aware that the mindmeld might sound constructed or something.
On December 20 2016 21:09 sicklucker wrote:
so ya me and rels both had independently the same idea unless you think im bullshitting about not reading the thread. easy town reads boys
On December 20 2016 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
Like I dont even care if exos town and we mislynch. im never voting rels for the rest of the game.
I give you my word 100% this coincidence of reads is too sick to ignore. Since I posted my reads after you psoted your probably just gonna be paranoid and think this is some ploy but from my perspective you had already posted this shit I just diddnt reaD it and then I posted the same shit before reading it
Another thing is that, aside from the mindmeld, you like rels for posts that a lot of ppl called him out for (slam, koshi, hf).
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well doesnt need to be planned. you just saw his posts and then decide to do that mindmeld thing.
granted it would be super strange if you are town and he is scum.
so that should mean either both of you are town or you are scum and he is town.
like i dont think it would be impossible for you as scum to fake that mindmeld to like pocket him and push a ml or two together.
i dont like that part where you say you dont care if ExO_ is a ML:
On December 20 2016 21:15 sicklucker wrote:
Like I dont even care if exos town and we mislynch. im never voting rels for the rest of the game.
I give you my word 100% this coincidence of reads is too sick to ignore. Since I posted my reads after you psoted your probably just gonna be paranoid and think this is some ploy but from my perspective you had already posted this shit I just diddnt reaD it and then I posted the same shit before reading it
though I am not sure scum would post it like this. you actually sound pretty happy/excited about having a 100% tr D1.
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Am I not sure if this plan would be great as scum, but as you said you dont really plan. xD
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On December 21 2016 00:07 sicklucker wrote:
I have never tried to do that as mafia before is what im saying. so completely dismissing it because "i could fake it" with actual evidence that i have never tried to fake my posting style as mafia . is a pretty mafia thing to do
All im saying is why is it any different this time? If i was Ls i would be town read for the game for meta reasons
well there is a first time for everything, but yeah this is a super weak ass reason to base a read on.
On December 21 2016 00:10 sicklucker wrote:
I dont think ill lynch anyone but exo or slam today
TBH I hope/think that is exactly the scum team.
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fun facts about slam:
doesnt mention exo even once.
throws a bit of shade in a throwaway post early on SL.
jumps on rels and then me.
not saying anything. just in case exo flips red (which is likely imo).
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And yeah I gotta be careful with HF and Koshi.
But I am fairly confident both are town atm. HF moreso than Koshi.
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Koshi is also voting town atm, but having a secondary wagon gives more info for town, so I dont mind that much. =p
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On December 21 2016 00:24 Koshi wrote:
Could Kmatt and Exo be mafia partners? That little outburst at the start? Was it odd?
There was def. something off in that exchange. It is like a reaction bait into a reaction bait into ExO_ being super pissed. And it def. doesnt read super natural. So I am thinking there is probably a scummer in there.
Since ExO_ didnt come back to play, but only to fish for feels I am assuming the one scummer is him.
For both to be scum I think they have to be cool with Kmatt getting enough cred off that to carry? Or they went to far and dont have the motivation to salvage it?
Like Kmatt didnt have a huge thread presence in his other game either, so I dont think him going carry is like a plan.
Unless they are like sicklucker and just wanted to do it. Like exo points out a mehish point on Kmatt for disassociation, Kmatt goes right back at him and either ExO_ gets pissed by that, or he tries to fake the game I linked?
I guess it is not impossible, but it sounds fairly far fetched for me.
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And kmatt is even somewhat deflecting off ppl trying to talk about other lynches:
On December 20 2016 03:24 Kmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Kmatt don't be disconnected to what is happening right now. I'm phone posting and it's cold, give me a break. To be honest I don't like where this is going. Looks like a repeat of my NSM game where I was under scrutiny, NocturneMage questioned me gently before levelling off and got someone else lynched. This sudden interest in disinformation, while justifiable, looks like it has mafia influence.
Which would mean he is bussing pretty hard and not even looking to trying to deflect.
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On December 21 2016 01:05 Holyflare wrote:
Seeing the posts from his other town game, consistently bad. Um, isn't the whole premise that it's wildly different from his town game?
Bae caught me slippin?
Thought it was pretty easy to see that he was trying to figure out the game.
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and there is none of that this game
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yeah just realized you were talking to/about kmatt. rereading the part you quoted makes me feel all kinds of bad.
like legit "since that guys is very likely to be the lynch and I know hell flip green, so let me distance myself from the blame" stuff.
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Though I guess it is not impossible for him to get cold feet over the lack of resistance over ExO_s lynch. Koshi was also showing a bit of that earlier.
Still not a good post by him.
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Was taking a brief look at kmatts last game here (as scum) because I remembered him getting ppl off of him with a huge wall. Turns out that was a huge ass wall case post on gb. Think stylewise that is too different on his read post here, so not a good basis for comparison. Also the game was nearly a year ago not just 6 month.
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wait a second. I think I am starting to see things.
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On December 20 2016 13:00 ExO_ wrote:
Just got home from work. Jesus Christ though, this is just like touhou mafia. Scum read on day 1 for bullshit.
'll tell you this much: I'm VT. Every time I've claimed VT on TL mafia forums I have been VT, check for yourself if you don't believe me. Yeah yeah, I'm helping scum blue hunt blah blah blah (though we don't even know if there is a blue in this game) but I feel like this is the best way I can help town. Day 1 is always a shit show. And what you're getting from me is my thoughts as I get them in my head. I'm not carefully thinking them through about how it would make me look, I'm just laying them out. If you want to come up with some bullshit justification for why that makes me scum, then fine. I get tilted and I know it. I also know that it puts me into a great position to look at the thread and gauge the reactions to the scum read of me, and use that information to figure out who might be scum. But I'm not gonna lie right now it's hard to want to do that.
And @rels idk what you were reading, but HF repeatedly asked me about the disinfo thing. It's why I went back to it multiple times to explain to him what he didn't seem to understand. Regardless I was tilted and operating from the assumption that kmatt/Koshi would be scum together. They might not be, but I felt like I was getting gang banged right of the gate by them and I was tunneled on them.
I don't know what else you want from me. I've never been a player (esp on day 1) that's been good at diving filters and pointing out inconsistencies, scum-meta reads, etc...I've always been better at fighting to show others I am town. You might not like it, but that's the player I am. If everyone has already decided that somehow my play this game makes me scum and/or is going to be patronizing assholes (a la HF) then I don't know what else I can do. But if people are actually willing to work with me then I can show that I'm town.
On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:
I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.
I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.
The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:
Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.
Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.
Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.
On October 29 2016 20:03 ExO_ wrote:
Why is it I go away for a bit and SL comes in and starts claiming I'm mafia left and right? I'm sorry I'm not the best player in this game but I did at least make an attempt to help town. idk what else you want me to do.
Regardless I still think Tube is mafia. He never did really explain adequately why he moved the way he did. For me that leaves
Tube/Kurumi/SL/Skynx as the most likely list of scum
First post is from this game.
Second post from the recent NSM where he was town and got ML D1.
Last post is from Dota 2 where he was scum. Mind you in that game he died of dmg and was not under universal pressure like here or the NSM.
I kinda felt like I was starting to see thing cause I thought for a second that he copied parts of the NSM one into this game. Which proved to be wrong. But another funny thing is: In NSM ppl started scumreading him we he opened with claiming VT. Why does he claim vt here now? That would only make sense if he was trying to invoke feelings from last game. Like "Oh I was claiming VT as town last game and that got me ML D1, lets try to do it here again?" Think it makes more sense for him to do that as scum.
And in either case: where are his reads? I feel like timewise he should/would have come back by now and tell us who to lynch.
And super ultra nitpick mode: all 3 posts have a variation of "idk what else to do". But the the one in his town game is more like "i tried, but" while in his scum game and this game it is more like "I suck, but".
and yeah im somewhat bored. =p
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Dunno. Just don't see a reason why it is not just ExO_ and Slam atm.
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