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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:32 GMT
#378
hardclaiming terrible town. maybe the others can cc me and we fight to the death?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#380
On December 20 2016 20:07 disformation wrote:
If ExO_ had put in a few reads, especially like a scumread, with his latest wall, I would be feeling a lot better about him.

I don't really like SL wanting to lynch both kmatt and exo without much of an explanation. And I still want him to properly explain the kmatt thing.

slam is a bit of an ???.

I also think SL has had way more clear/impactful town games recently.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:38 GMT
#381
On December 20 2016 20:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:32 disformation wrote:
hardclaiming terrible town. maybe the others can cc me and we fight to the death?

Good job going for the easy answer on that post and completely ignore the analysis I made on Alakaslam being more likely town for that change of vote. Which is the opposite conclusion you had on that "event".


Such a drag.

I agree that slam came in with decent reasons on Rels and tehrefore my point on him being opportunistic his not correct.
DOnt agree with the rest, as Slam could just have read the thread consent shifting in my direction and go there. Keeping his vote on Rels would have been suspicious and unvoting would have been a bit bleh. As it would look like he is not scum hunting.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:38 GMT
#382
So I feel a bit better about slam.
Would lynch sl or exo before.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:43 GMT
#383
Now I need to make up my mind on Rels.
Like I can kinda agree that "something feels off". But imo more in the part about me. Or him being waffly in general.

But I still like a bunch of his posts. Which makes me not want to lynch him. Also + points for getting some stuff about me roght before horribly backtracking.

Rels is pretty good though. So the whole thing is not outside of his scum range.

If SL and ExO_ would not be in the game, that would be a really hard one.
I think as of right now I would lynch Rels over Slam?

Still think today should be one of ExO_ or SL.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:44 GMT
#384
And TBH really the two scums are in ExO_, SL, Rels, Slam.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 11:50 GMT
#386
Huh. Though. If all the ppl voting me are town. the fuck is mafia voting on? Are they on ExO_?

Yo @SL can you explain your Kmatt thing? I have a vague idea, but would prefer you to drop a few lines on that.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 12:01 GMT
#396
Any reads on other ppl?
Guess interesting ppl to talk about would be: Rels, Slam and me
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 12:03 GMT
#397
But I like your points on Kmatt. It is something to keep in mind for later.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 12:18 GMT
#408
So. There was a recent game where exo was lynched D1 as VT.
Link to his filter

First post he claims VT.
Gets voted by Calix for that.
Immediately OMGUSES Calix.

Then he starts to actually play the game.
As the time for the lynch approaches:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:

I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.

I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.

The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:

Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.

Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.


Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.

On November 05 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote:
TT/Rels/NU should be your prime suspects. Those are my top 3 scum reads.

I also think there would've been a high chance for people to say "skynkx town read ExO at EoD b/c he's scum trying to get town cred". By pointing this out here I no longer think it'll happen. If it does though refer to this



Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.
But as I said again and again: he has absolutely 0 reads this game.
Look at his filter. Look at the two posts I quoted.
See the difference?

Imo ExO_ was actually a pretty easy town read in the game I linked. He had a wonky start, but after that he started actually playing and made good posts. This game we only have a huge appeal to emotion.

##vote ExO_
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 12:37 GMT
#422
On December 20 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
Like who is mafia with Exo at this point?

More likely someone not voting ExO_
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:15 GMT
#431
On December 20 2016 22:06 Holyflare wrote:
I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down:

ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database.
Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al.

Show nested quote +
Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.


Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one.
Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all.
Disformation didn't even factor it in at all.
Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon.

I was in obs this game, forgot about until someone mentioned it (might have been rels).
Was bored adn decided to look at it.

and i def. mention that the start of the game is similar. the big difference is what happens afterward. He starts to play a good town game and by the time he looks like the def. lynch the posts I quoted happen.
Looks like day and night to this game.

timing checks out. there should at least be some decent posts by exo here by now.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:23 GMT
#434
On December 20 2016 22:11 Koshi wrote:
I can see so many easy partners with disformation as well.

How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post?

Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way .


I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest.

since I am town. that should make them more town, since they legit dont know my aligment?
doesnt make much sense for them to waffle about me as scum right? just line me up as a ML?
though rels is kinda doing that with his waffling...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:39 GMT
#439
On December 20 2016 21:33 Koshi wrote:
I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically.

I would be more inclined to believe it is legit if he hadnt posted this:
On December 20 2016 21:09 sicklucker wrote:
so ya me and rels both had independently the same idea unless you think im bullshitting about not reading the thread. easy town reads boys

Makes me think he is super aware of him having read it before.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:40 GMT
#440
On December 20 2016 22:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 22:15 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 22:06 Holyflare wrote:
I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down:

ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database.
Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al.

Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.


Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one.
Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all.
Disformation didn't even factor it in at all.
Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon.

I was in obs this game, forgot about until someone mentioned it (might have been rels).
Was bored adn decided to look at it.

and i def. mention that the start of the game is similar. the big difference is what happens afterward. He starts to play a good town game and by the time he looks like the def. lynch the posts I quoted happen.
Looks like day and night to this game.

timing checks out. there should at least be some decent posts by exo here by now.


Where did you mention this at all?

On December 20 2016 21:18 disformation wrote:
So. There was a recent game where exo was lynched D1 as VT.
Link to his filter

First post he claims VT.
Gets voted by Calix for that.
Immediately OMGUSES Calix.

Then he starts to actually play the game.
As the time for the lynch approaches:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:

I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.

I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.

The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:

Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.

Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.


Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.

On November 05 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote:
TT/Rels/NU should be your prime suspects. Those are my top 3 scum reads.

I also think there would've been a high chance for people to say "skynkx town read ExO at EoD b/c he's scum trying to get town cred". By pointing this out here I no longer think it'll happen. If it does though refer to this



Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.
But as I said again and again: he has absolutely 0 reads this game.
Look at his filter. Look at the two posts I quoted.
See the difference?

Imo ExO_ was actually a pretty easy town read in the game I linked. He had a wonky start, but after that he started actually playing and made good posts. This game we only have a huge appeal to emotion.

##vote ExO_

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:41 GMT
#442
On December 20 2016 22:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 22:20 Holyflare wrote:
On December 20 2016 22:15 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 22:06 Holyflare wrote:
I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down:

ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database.
Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al.

Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.


Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one.
Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all.
Disformation didn't even factor it in at all.
Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon.

I was in obs this game, forgot about until someone mentioned it (might have been rels).
Was bored adn decided to look at it.

and i def. mention that the start of the game is similar. the big difference is what happens afterward. He starts to play a good town game and by the time he looks like the def. lynch the posts I quoted happen.
Looks like day and night to this game.

timing checks out. there should at least be some decent posts by exo here by now.


Where did you mention this at all?


On December 20 2016 22:40 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 22:20 Holyflare wrote:
On December 20 2016 22:15 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 22:06 Holyflare wrote:
I realise that post isn't well formulated but to break it down:

ExO's game where he claims VT isn't in the database.
Disformation therefore knows he's done this before, rage et al.

Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.


Disformation states the start of this game was just like that one.
Disformation didn't mention any of this at the start of the game at all.
Disformation didn't even factor it in at all.
Disformation wants to hop on hip bandwagon.

I was in obs this game, forgot about until someone mentioned it (might have been rels).
Was bored adn decided to look at it.

and i def. mention that the start of the game is similar. the big difference is what happens afterward. He starts to play a good town game and by the time he looks like the def. lynch the posts I quoted happen.
Looks like day and night to this game.

timing checks out. there should at least be some decent posts by exo here by now.


Where did you mention this at all?

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 21:18 disformation wrote:
So. There was a recent game where exo was lynched D1 as VT.
Link to his filter

First post he claims VT.
Gets voted by Calix for that.
Immediately OMGUSES Calix.

Then he starts to actually play the game.
As the time for the lynch approaches:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote:
I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this:

I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things.

I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town.

The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today:

Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1.

Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure.


Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window.

On November 05 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote:
TT/Rels/NU should be your prime suspects. Those are my top 3 scum reads.

I also think there would've been a high chance for people to say "skynkx town read ExO at EoD b/c he's scum trying to get town cred". By pointing this out here I no longer think it'll happen. If it does though refer to this



Conclusion:
There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game.
Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked.
But as I said again and again: he has absolutely 0 reads this game.
Look at his filter. Look at the two posts I quoted.
See the difference?

Imo ExO_ was actually a pretty easy town read in the game I linked. He had a wonky start, but after that he started actually playing and made good posts. This game we only have a huge appeal to emotion.

##vote ExO_


disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:42 GMT
#444
yes?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:43 GMT
#446
you are saying "you didnt mention it"
I def. did mention it in my post.
and my post should show that I think other points being far more in disfavour towards ExO_ to think that this is a huge factor.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:47 GMT
#448
like my post litterally says: "There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game."
and then I proceed to explain the differences and why I think he is still scum this game
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 20 2016 13:49 GMT
#451
On December 20 2016 22:48 Holyflare wrote:
Why
Didn't
You
Mention
This
At
The
Time
?

I did?
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