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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 20 2016 17:15 GMT
#501
On December 21 2016 02:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:
I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually.

On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo.

On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post:

These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would.

The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling.

You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that.

BS. The posts you quoted are actually all great indicators of my thought process.
I don't understand your logic on me. You know you don't read me well, I usually (always ?) fool you as scum, and you usually scumread me early game as town. Why are you so focus on me in this game ? It's nothing like last game, in which you gave me time to do stuff.

dnu
I had a good night of sleep.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 17:17 GMT
#502
On December 21 2016 02:08 Kmatt wrote:
Wew that was fun.

Alakaslam
Wow he actually sucks.

I'll admit, he's done a fantastic job of "skating by". His filter is tiny and full of garbage. He had those posts where he talked about Rels' reads but had no actual content. To this point he hasn't even acknowledged either the Exo or Disinfo wagons. However despite all this I'm leaning more towards him playing Lazy Town rather than a quiet scum. If our wagons are both ML, then Mafia wants to hop on board for the town cred and ride for an easy kill. If we have scum targets they need to be derailing us. He's just not playing at all. In my other game we had Fidei86 being super inactive as scum (though that might have just been him not playing much) so I don't rule Slam being scum out. He's not my first priority here so he's getting a stay of votecution.

ExO_
By all accounts this guy is still scum in my book, mostly for reasons already stated (no scumreads on anyone but his accusers, over-defensiveness at my vote, being unhelpful in general). While the meta read is totally believable, I have no reason to doubt that he's both playing to his own standard and being scum. Regardless, I won't miss him when he's gone. The vote can stay here.

Koshi
For the most part I want to like this guy. His posts do seem a little erratic, but that's not necessarily scum behavior. If you could lay out in a single post your full case against Sicklucker I'd like to see it. Just looking at your filter didn't give me a clear picture on why he's scum and why we should vote him.

LightningStrike
Literally where?

While I'm not a fan of his absence, I can't pin it down to being scum for reasons in Slam's summary. He does need to get off his rump and do some McFriggin work though. Otherwise he seems harmlessly townie. I don't want harmless town I want murderous lynching town.

Sicklucker
Oh wow apparently he made a line about me and him being scumbuddies. I legitimately did not catch that until this post.

Anyway this guy gives off a Slam vibe. I think it's just in his nature to make these one-liner stream of consciousness posts but he looks to be all over the place regarding our wagons. First he thinks I'm scum, then he thinks both Exo and I are scum (which simply doesn't make sense), then me mentions Slam being scum but says nothing about that case. He looks like he's ready to hop on anyone that could be a ML. But since he's down for lynching Exo he's either bussing day 1 (questionable at best) or he's just playing weird town. His enthusiasm for Rels is also odd. That speaks to me as trying too hard for town cred. Also conveniently hasn't spoken a word about disinformation unless I missed something in his spotty filter.

If Exo flips green/blue we're putting this guy on ice.

Rels
Town enough for me. Asks good questions, hasn't done anything particularly scummy in my eyes. He got a little confused on Disinfos pseudo-scumread of Exo but that was a genuinely confusing post. For now I find no fault here.

Holyflare
I'll take him as town as well. More aggressive than I would play, but still very town. I could see him getting shot night one *cough*doc*cough*.

Kmatt
ayy

Disinformation
I genuinely can't tell if he's scum or just a town being all over the place. As much as I hate going neutral on a big wagon, I have to give him a null. If it weren't for the other more deliberately scummy players I would feel better voting for him but as it is I can't come to a conclusion. I'm watching closely.

My current scumteam comes out to Exo/Slam/SL.

TOWN
Rels
LightningStrike
Holyflare
Koshi
Disninformation
Alakaslam
Sicklucker
Exo
SCUM


Update: The bit about Slam being lazy town was me not conveying my thoughts properly. I had that suspicion, but him being scum wins out. I don't lean towards him being town, just that it factored into my analysis.
We CAN have nice things
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 17:22 GMT
#503
LOL SL is so townie
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 17:22 GMT
#504
SL burst of posts start of page 21 are more townie than the entirety of his filter last game. He has a lot of difficulties replicating that as scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 17:24 GMT
#505
On December 20 2016 21:33 Koshi wrote:
I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically.

SL does not play like that. SL as scum does not lie about stuff like that. Why do you not know that SL as scum do not lie about stuff like that ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 17:25 GMT
#506
On December 20 2016 21:54 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch into sl/exo/disfo and most likely win. I think exo's appeal to emotion into 0 reads is bs and opportunistic and he should be voted. I think SL's posts are terrible and his mindmeld bs is either made up or just makes rels town. I don't like his berating of koshi despite saying that koshi is doing what he does every game. I think disfo is extremely self-defeatist, doesn't post things that chronologically make sense and even points out his own mistakes which suggests a hyper awareness of his faults which is scummy. Much more used to post anything and everything disfo.

Same question
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 20 2016 17:29 GMT
#507
I pay 0 attention to how sicklucker ever plays.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 20 2016 17:29 GMT
#508
That was a simple answer.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 17:36 GMT
#509
On December 21 2016 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
That was a simple answer.

pretty funny too
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 20 2016 17:40 GMT
#510
On December 21 2016 02:24 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 21:33 Koshi wrote:
I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically.

SL does not play like that. SL as scum does not lie about stuff like that. Why do you not know that SL as scum do not lie about stuff like that ?

I don't know why. But I thought he talked about you before he made the mindconnection thing.

SL was pretty townie when talking to disformation. But not before. Not yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 17:40 GMT
#511
Kmatt post is pretty good.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 17:42 GMT
#512
Kmatt, SL is always scumread for your reasons by people that never played with him. If SL is scum that's not for what you've said; if he's scum he tryharded earlier and very likely won't be able to continue playing like that forever. That's when you lynch him. For now he's super townie.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 20 2016 17:43 GMT
#513
K I'm leaving work, will be back in a few hours!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 20 2016 17:43 GMT
#514
If Exo flips town this game might be interesting. Till then. Adieu.

+ Show Spoiler +
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
December 20 2016 17:44 GMT
#515
Oh wait. Deadline is on an ungodlike hour. Ok. Till tomorrow.
Will lurk.
I had a good night of sleep.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 20 2016 18:12 GMT
#516
Vote Count - Day 1


ExO_ (6): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
Alakaslam (0): Koshi
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam

Not voted (2): ExO, LightningStrike

It looks like ExO_ will be disqualified at the moment.
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Day 1 ends in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 18:14 GMT
#517
By "Disqualigied" do you mean lynched or is he breaking some rule?
We CAN have nice things
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 20 2016 18:15 GMT
#518
Curse this phone posting and no edit rule.
We CAN have nice things
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
December 20 2016 18:17 GMT
#519
lynched
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 20 2016 19:26 GMT
#520
Well, this is fun!
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